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znModeratorSam Bradford trade shows Vikings won’t give in
By Marc Sessler
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000695031/article/sam-bradford-trade-shows-vikings-wont-give-in
The Vikings could have used Teddy Bridgewater’s ghastly knee injury as an airtight excuse against any ugliness Minnesota encountered during the season ahead.
If we’ve learned anything about coach Mike Zimmer and his team, though, the concept of lying down isn’t part of this regime’s operation manual.
Saturday’s surprising trade for Sam Bradford isn’t the equal of Denver bringing a peak-performance Peyton Manning to town in 2012 — not even close — but Minnesota aimed as high as this year’s shaky quarterback market would allow.
Instead of settling for an aging Shaun Hill or a warmed-over Mark Sanchez, the Vikings have landed a quarterback who many coaches around the league — if not the fans — still believe in.
The price is high and easily criticized — a first-rounder next year and a fourth in 2018 — but Minnesota wouldn’t make this trade if it didn’t see itself in the clear light of day as a legitimate Super Bowl contender.
Why they might be right
One reason the Vikings crept into public consciousness as a threat in the NFC, prior to Bridgewater’s injury, was the team’s layered roster surrounding the quarterback spot.
Minnesota boasts an attractive duo of young wideouts in Stefon Diggs and rookie Laquon Treadwell and a top-three running back in future Hall of Famer Adrian Peterson, Bradford’s former college teammate and still the centerpiece of this offense.
The defense is a layered beast at every level with pass-rusher Everson Griffen, young linebacker Anthony Barr and emergent safety Harrison Smith leading the way for a well-coached crew sprinkled with veteran anchors and up-and-coming talent.
This is the best NFL team Bradford has ever played for. His career has been underwhelming, frustrating and dotted with drab play, but he is capable of outshining Bridgewater’s totals from last season: 14 touchdowns to nine interceptions for an offense that rarely tested the field deep.
It’s easy to question the cost. Just ask the Rams, who also used a first-round pick on Bradford and paid for that decision in full. Jeff Fisher’s clubs in St. Louis, though, were a talent-poor dead-zone on offense. Bradford, of course, didn’t help by refusing to escape the trainer’s room.
Learning this offense in mere days won’t be an easy challenge for the team’s new signal-caller, but talented coordinator Norv Turner can do more with Bradford than he could have accomplished with Hill, whose arm strength hovers at the bottom of the league.
The Vikings were a playoff team with Teddy — with a chance for much more — and Bradford gives them an equal shot to win the NFC North.
Where this gets interesting
Bradford is more than just a one-year (hyper-expensive) patch: He’s security for what comes next with Bridgewater.
If the Vikings learn that Bridgewater’s gruesome knee injury is something he can’t overcome by next season, Minnesota has Bradford through 2017. Instead of having to toil through this year with Hill and a cast of no-namers, the Vikings have a quarterback they can lean on well into next season if they must.
As much as Zimmer and the Vikings believe in Bridgewater, the injury renders him a burning question mark at the most important position in sports. You don’t give up a first-round pick for Bradford unless there are concerns about what the future holds under center.
If the Vikings surge deep into January — as Zimmer believes they can — will this trade have been worth it? Absolutely.
What this tells us about Zimmer
Minnesota’s coach was crushed by Bridgewater’s injury, but Zimmer’s overriding message to reporters last week was clear: The Vikings are much more than just their quarterback.
Zimmer preached on the overall strength of his roster and the locker room’s innate desire to press on. He vowed, almost tearfully, that Minnesota wouldn’t view the setback as a final and fatal blow.
Zimmer also noted that he called up longtime mentor and friend Bill Parcells, the Hall of Fame coach who always hammered home the importance of riding into the fray with a signal-caller you can trust.
As colleague and pained Jets fan Dan Hanzus pointed out this week, Parcells saw his own 1999 Jets team — a stacked club — crash and burn when veteran Vinny Testaverde was lost one game into the campaign. Stuck with the inglorious combination of Ray Lucas and Rick Mirer, Gang Green quickly spiraled to earth.
Zimmer was also in Dallas for many up-and-down seasons under Parcells, watching his mentor deftly transition the team from veteran passer Drew Bledsoe to an undrafted fellow by the name of Tony Romo.
There’s no young Romo in this scenario, but Parcells — who famously crafted his own list of 11 quarterback commandments — certainly has pointed takes on the position.
His first commandment? “Ignore other opinions — Press or TV, agents or advisors, family or wives, friends or relatives, fans or hangers on — ignore them on matters of football, they don’t know what’s happening here.”
Zimmer must agree, because plenty of people will criticize shipping a first-round pick to an NFC rival for Bradford. The Vikings, though, don’t care what you think about this trade. Zimmer, especially, isn’t interested in mass-market opinions on Bradford.
Like Parcells before him, Zimmer is proving to be an instinctive, risk-taking coach who refuses to sit around and wait for “next season.”
Minnesota’s window to do damage in the NFC is wide open — and Saturday’s trade tells us that swapping a few picks in exchange for January dreams is entirely worth it to this long-suffering franchise and their no-nonsense leader.
znModeratorHill was an undrafted rookie last year. He was on NE’s practice squad for awhile.
Thanks ag. I knew it was something. So he’s not a Rams 2016 UDFA…he’s a 2015 “ronin” CB.
I like Hill. I did all August, watching the PS games.
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znModeratorOne thing Bradford wasn’t that I think (hope) Goff is, is someone who can adlib and turn a busted play into a positive. Bradford wasn’t much of a an improviser – which is ok – he has other skills, but I picture Goff as a QB that can move around well, buy time, throw on the run…be creative when he needs to be.
Yes. I agree with that. Well put.
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znModeratorSo does that mean teams dont think he’s that good, coz they keep trading him…
or does that mean teams do think he’s good, coz they keep trading For him ??In the qb market as it is, which is short on players, I would say absolutely he is good…and considered good. You don’t trade away a #1 pick for someone you think is mediocre. PLUS think of who had the big input on that—the Vikes offensive coordinator, Norv Turner. If he is your OC you don’t trade for a qb if Norv doesn’t like him.
The problem with Bradford was the knee. So 2 teams in a row insured themselves against that knee…the Rams by trading him away, and the Eagles by drafting Wentz in spite of signing him.
But…players of that caliber are only around if they have been injured. It was the same with Palmer.
What I don’t like about this trade for the Vikes is that Bradford is a notorious slow learner. Not that he’s dumb, he just seems to be more methodical than intuitive.
What I DO like about this trade for the Vikes is that once he gets going, this will be Bradford level veteran skills (and I consider him to be in the “good qb” class with Flacco and Eli as a pure talent), plus Peterson, plus a good veteran OL, on a team with a defense…and Bradford will be playing for Norv Turner, who WILL know how to use him.
If it works (which to me is all a matter of SB getting up to speed), Minn. could be murder.
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znModeratorDavid Arkin
Position: Offensive guard
Height: 6 ft 5 in
Weight: 306 lbCollege: Missouri State
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Professional career
Dallas Cowboys
Arkin was drafted with the 110th pick of the 4th round by the Dallas Cowboys in the 2011 NFL Draft, with the intention of playing him at offensive guard. After being inactive for every game as a rookie, in his second season he was forced to learn the center position in training camp, after the team suffered a series of injuries. His lack of strength and experience, kept him again inactive in every game despite being healthy.In 2013, the team decided to have him focus on the right guard position. As he has done in previous training camps, he proved to be one of the most durable players on the team and was activated for the first regular season game of his career in the season opener against the New York Giants. He was released on October 26, to make room for Jakar Hamilton and later signed to the team’s practice squad.
Miami Dolphins
On November 5, 2013, he was signed by the Miami Dolphins from the Dallas Cowboys practice squad. The signing was a direct result of the issues the Dolphins where having on their offensive line, after Richie Incognito alleged role in the harassment of teammate Jonathan Martin. He was active in only one game (against the Carolina Panthers). The following season after being tried at center, he was waived on August 30, 2014.Seattle Seahawks
The Seattle Seahawks signed him to their practice squad on September 3, 2014, but was waived five days later.Indianapolis Colts
Arkin was signed to the Indianapolis Colts practice squad on September 16, 2014. He was promoted to the active roster on December 31, when Gosder Cherilus was placed on the injured reserve list.[8] On September 5, 2015, he was released and signed to the practice squad the next day. He was cut on September 23, and re-signed to the practice squad on October 26. On November 3, Arkin was released.===========
OVERVIEW
Arkin’s an experienced, durable offensive guard prospect with the intelligence, work-ethic and toughness to make it in the league as a reserve and possibly a starter down the line. Improving his overall technique as a pass and run blocker would go a lot way in moving him up a depth chart. Needs to do a better job with his hands, sink his hips more and watch his pad level. Displays good awareness. Has the killer instinct that can’t be taught and we don’t expect him to be afraid of the jump in competition.
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS Arkin has a mean streak. Plays angry and always finishes his blocks but still has a cool head, helps out in blitz pickup when free, and isn’t baited by defensive line play. Legs are always driving while run blocking and gets some movement. Can take on the bull rush.
WEAKNESSES Pass blocking technique needs improvement. Doesn’t sink his hips and hand play is a bit sloppy. Quicker, athletic defensive tackles can beat him laterally. Doesn’t have great burst off the ball, needs to watch his pad level and can lean and lunge. Footwork out in space is only adequate.===
2011 NFL Draft Picks: Cowboys Select David Arkin, T/G, Missouri State – Beefing Up The Line
By Dave Halprin @BloggingTheBoys on Apr 30, 2011
[www.bloggingtheboys.com]
With the #110 pick in the NFL draft (#13 in the 4th round), the Dallas Cowboys selected offensive lineman David Arkin from Missouri State. A tackle at a lower-level school, Arkin will likely move inside to guard. A versatile guy that could swing between tackle and guard if needed. Versatile is a word that goes with Arkin. 6′ 5″, 300 lbs. Wasn’t projected by most services to go this high in the draft.
It was hard to find solid scouting reports on the guy but jump below to read some. Also, Rick Gosselin had him as his #100 player, so that’s good.
The best review I found was from Scott Wright at NFL Draft Countdown, he had him as his #8 guard:
Strengths:
Has experience at guard and tackle. Great size. Thick thighs. Adequate strength and lateral quickness. Had a strong showing at the East-West Shrine Game. Anchors well. Has strong hands and uses them quickly. Does a good job of sustaining blocks.Weaknesses:
Struggled early in the year at a new position as he would keep a poor base when drive blocking, didn’t always finish, and was too high on first contact to the second level. Needs to bend more. Lunges at defenders on the second level. Needs to get stronger.Outlook:
Arkin has dominated his entire career at MSU and is one of the most versatile linemen in this draft with good tape at both tackle and guard for at least one full season. I like his ability to swing from guard and tackle as a backup early in his career and believe he could eventually start at guard with improved strength and some coaching. His ability at both positions could draw him up boards as high as 4th or 5th round.Here’s what Sideline Scouting says:
Positives: Smart… Good pass blocker… Reasonably quick pass set… Good short area quickness… Very solid lateral movement and slide… Good footwork and agility… Does a nice job changing direction… Plays with good balance… Can pull and get to the second level… Good flexibility and body control… Blocks reasonably well on the move… Good strength at POA… Can control once locked on… Solid drive blocker… Takes good angles… Does a nice job turning defenders from the running lane… Has some suddenness to his game, flashes some explosion… Physical… Relentless, gives a good effort, competitive.
Negatives: Needs to bulk up a bit… Plays too upright… Can be beat by outside speed.
znModeratorSo Spruce was the only UDFA who made it ?
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vNo. Pure UDFAs: Spruce, + Murphy (OL), Grigsby (LB), Littleton (LB), and Hill (CB) … though I forget when Hill was added (he may not be a 2016 UDFA). Plus Arkin (OL), added last year, who while not a rookie is kind of a young “ronin” type that Boudreau likes.
znModeratorKush really surprised me. I thought for sure he’d make the team. He seemed like he’d be a solid back-up at center.
He made too many mistakes. You saw it in games and you heard about it in camp reports. Errant snaps of various kinds and types.
znModeratorIn addition, the team has placed OL Garrett Reynolds (North Carolina) and OL Darrell Williams (South Florida) on injured reserve.
This deepens the OL because now teams can bring one player back from IR during the season. That would probably be Reynolds. Williams, IMO, they are red-shirting.
znModeratorMyles Simmons has a photo slide show of all 53 on the roster right now…including of course all newcomers.
znModeratorSo can someone list the Rookies and UDFA’s who MADE the team?
Who are the new guys?QB Jared Goff
WR Pharoh Cooper
Nelson Spruce
Mike ThomasTE Tyler Higbee
Tammarick HemingwayOL David Arkin
Pace MurphyDL Dominique Easley
LB Josh Forrest
Nic Grigsby
Cory LittletonCB Troy Hill
znModeratorName: Nicholas Grigsby
College: Pittsburgh Number: 3
Height: 6-0 Weight: 220
Position: OLB
40 Low: 4.47 40 Time: 4.51 40 High: 4.60
znModeratorSURPRISES (for me):
DB Christian Bryant (Ohio State)
RB Aaron Green (TCU)
CB Michael Jordan (Missouri Western)
DT Cam Thomas (North Carolina)
DB Marcus Roberson (Florida)
OL Garrett Reynolds (North Carolina) (on IR)PRACTICE SQUAD POSSIBILITIES (this list overlaps the “surprises list”)
T Isaiah Battle (Clemson)
LB Brandon Chubb (Wake Forest)
DT Morgan Fox (Colorado State Pueblo)
LB Cameron Lynch (Syracuse)
DB Jabriel Washington (Alabama)
DB Christian Bryant (Ohio State)
RB Aaron Green (TCU)
CB Michael Jordan (Missouri Western)
znModeratorBonsignore’s version is mostly there but not entirely. So I thought I would just double down on this one.
RAMS ANNOUNCE ROSTER MOVES
In order to reach the NFL-mandated 53-man roster limit, the Los Angeles Rams made the following transactions Saturday:
Waived:
T Isaiah Battle (Clemson)
DB Christian Bryant (Ohio State)
LB Brandon Chubb (Wake Forest)
TE Justice Cunningham (South Carolina)
DT Morgan Fox (Colorado State Pueblo)
DB Rohan Gaines (Arkansas)
RB Aaron Green (TCU)
WR Austin Hill (Arizona)
CB Michael Jordan (Missouri Western)
DB Jordan Kovacs (Michigan)
C Eric Kush (California, PA)
LB Cameron Lynch (Syracuse)
RB Terrence Magee (Louisiana State)
WR Paul McRoberts (Southeast Missouri State)
DB Marcus Roberson (Florida)
DE Ian Seau (Nevada-Reno)
DB Jabriel Washington (Alabama)
WR Duke Williams (Auburn)Terminated Contract:
LB Akeem Ayers (UCLA)
DT Cam Thomas (North Carolina)In addition, the team has placed OL Garrett Reynolds (North Carolina) and OL Darrell Williams (South Florida) on injured reserve.
Head Coach Jeff Fisher will be available to the media at California Lutheran University on Sunday, Sept. 4 at 4 p.m. to discuss the end of the preseason, start of the regular season and the 53-man roster.
znModeratorit also tells you they must be pretty confident wentz can do the job.
Or it tells you they’re willing to trade a winning season for a year with a rookie qb and an extra #1 pick. It’s viable because this is the new head coach’s first year. You let him as a coach have a “gimme” year.
And btw I’m not so sure all those are bad ideas.
But it gets down to choices. Win, start the rookie.
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znModeratorSo the Eagles _ what were they thinking? _ paid Bradford an $11 million signing bonus via extension just for offseason and preseason.
— Jim Thomas (@jthom1) September 3, 2016
Minnesota's on the hook only for a modest $7 million base salary for Bradford this season, which is guaranteed.
— Jim Thomas (@jthom1) September 3, 2016
A bold move for the Vikings who are going for it all this year. https://t.co/JUMmu6f7GT
— Jim Thomas (@jthom1) September 3, 2016
znModeratorRams cut DB Jordan Kovacs.
— Jim Thomas (@jthom1) September 3, 2016
znModeratoroff the net from alyoshamucci
game 4 recap and some roster thoughts before cuts …
I know Williams, Hill, Seau, and Fox have all been cut already, just saying up front I’d be happy to have any of them on the PS.
The Good
1) Forrest had a Monster game … this is what I expected of him, he had 4 plays behind the LOS, and I have him with 2 sacks … no idea how he got scored a half sack.
2) The Mike Thomas crosser, 3 WRs made great plays .. Mike relaxed and then accelerated into open space … Duke came back and DESTROYED a Viking with a block .. wow .. and Austin Hill was blocking 20 yards downfield.
3) Fox should be on our PS … he had a great game.
4) Hav looked comfy first game back.
5) Goff’s first drive was a thing of beauty.
6) Hill getting that first down with power … yeah I want him on the PS. I will always be rooting for the kid.
7) Christian Bryant has great instincts … I see him taking McLeod’s old FS spot as soon as Mo makes some bad reads. He also looked great in coverage.
8) Jordan flashed really well. I hope we can keep him on the PS, I just can’t see him making the 53.
9) McRoberts TD was a big time play. Contested catch. Basically the same play that Britt made in the 1st, but tougher. I know we’re at 6 WRs with Marquez, but I wouldn’t cut this kid, his tape in the PS is too good.
10) Duke Williams showing off the hands …
11) Mike Thomas as a gunner making a play on the PR when no one else was around … way to make the team dude.
The Bad
12) Some poor footwork by Goff and sailing passes as a result.
13) Roberson giving too much cushion.
14) After the top 7 O linemen, there is a real drop off. I still have hope for Battle, but not a lot. Rhaney I would try to replace … but he’s got quick feet.
The Ugly
15) Special teams TD again? Ugh.
16) Quick’s drop was bad, but there was a play on a WR screen where he just phoned in the block against Jayron Kearse (who I loved coming out) .. and dude, if he can’t block? He has nothing he’s really good at.
17) Goff’s body language after some bad play … I get it bro, you’re bummed you didn’t earn the starting job for week one, but remember everyone is watching you all the time … get your head on straight.
I’d keep McRoberts, I’d cut Sensabaugh. I’d keep Green (did I see he was cut? I doubt he clears waivers).
Also I like Chubb and Littleton for PS players … they have heart and athleticism, just need some time.
September 3, 2016 at 1:12 pm in reply to: informal poll: Goff not starting, being #3 – disaster? not concerned? #52144
znModeratorwonder how much coming from a spread offense is holding him back? I’m no expert on spread offenses but from what I hear they are as different from a pro-style offense (as far as what’s expected of the QB) as apples are from bowling balls.
Well, yes, it;s an issue. BUT there are several kinds of college spreads, and other qbs from spread offenses have started as rookies (Bradford, Newton, Griffin, Mariota).
The Air Raid offense, of which the Cal offense is a variation, has at this point only 1 qb who has translated to the NFL.
It’s not Foles. Foles was in a college Air Raid, but then played 2 years in Kelly’s spread. His first real year (other than as a rookie) in a pro system, he ended up crashing (that was 2015, obviously).
The other who is a candidate to be The Only One started out rough in his second year playing in the pros, but by his 3rd and 4th years had started 7 games, his team winning 5 of those. That’s Keenum.
The Cal spread had some pro-like elements, but still, there’s a lot to learn. Interestingly Goff is learning it behind the only successful (thus far) Air Raid to pros transition qb.
znModeratorI thought Bradford had a one-year deal, and was a FA after this season.
It’s a 2 year deal, but structured so the Eagles could jettison it after year 1 if they wanted.
znModeratorSo now Bradford has reached the point where he is switching offensive systems…in week 1. Used to be, he had to wait till the off-season to switch systems.
So that’s Shurmur’s WCO, McDaniels’s Erhardt Perkins, Schott’s Coryell hybrid, Kelly’s offense, back to Pederson’s WCO, and then in the same season on to Turner’s Coryell system. That’s 6 switches in 7 years. (I think that also exhausts all the NFL offensive systems. There aren’t any others.) Only once that whole time was he in the same system 2 years in a row–2012/2013. Then 2 knee injuries.
Wait until he gets into sync with that system though.
That will be Bradford with an OL and a running game playing for Norv Turner on a team with a defense.
znModeratorSo if I follow this thread right, humpback whales were hunted nearly to extinction. And if that weren’t bad enough, they also get harassed by needy dolphins.
znModeratorif the Rams really are close as Fisher and Snead repeatedly have said the loss of those picks is costly IF Goff can not provide an upgrade at the all important QB position for this team.
To me that’s just bad logic.
First, apparently the coaches trust CK more than the writer does. The logic being, CK works as a bridge qb AND in fact the whole point of going with a bridge qb is to win now and not sacrifice games to a rookie learning curve.
Second, the picks are worth it or not worth it based on the next decade. The point of trading up is to get a franchise qb…meaning (ie. how I use the term) a consistent season in and season out starter (“franchise” does not mean “elite” necessarily unless you think Ryan or Stafford are elite.)
So based on that I don’t judge the pick on the basis of the first few games of 2016.
Also, if you look back through history, there are just a small handful of times in the NFL where a team picking lower than say 10th traded up to the first spot to take a qb. That means a team with a record around 8-8, give or take, trading up. (Interestingly, in 1952 the 9-3 Rams got the 1st pick in the draft that year by landing it as a lottery bonus pick, and they took qb Billy Wade).
Arguably teams picking qbs that high will usually have records in the 1-15 to 4-12 range and so usually have nothing to lose in starting a rookie qb. Also arguably the Rams in contrast have nothing to gain.
Either way, going back to 2009 and Stafford, there have been 19 qbs picked in the 1st round. I will take “starting a rookie early” as meaning the qb gets at least 10 starts his rookie year, beginning with the first or second game of the season. Of those 19 qbs, 15 meet that criteria (4 don’t begin the season as starters or play at least 10 games though those 4 do play during the season). Of those 15, 3 play for teams with a winning record their rookie year (Sanchez, Luck, Griffin). (Notably two of those later fell on hard times for different reasons). That means 12 teams starting rookies ended up with losing records. If you look just at qbs picked in the top 10, it’s 12 qbs, 11 of which start the season (the exception being Locker). Of those 11, it’s the same 3 playing for teams with winning records their rookie year (Sanchez, Luck, Griffin). The other 8 play for teams with losing records.
znModerator
Jared Goff is the Rams No. 3 QB, and yes, you should be freaking out
Jared Goff is the Rams No. 3 QB, and yes, you should be freaking out
if the Rams really are close as Fisher and Snead repeatedly have said the loss of those picks is costly IF Goff can not provide an upgrade at the all important QB position for this team.
I did not like the trade up when it happened because IMHO Goff was simply not worth it. He was not in the same class as the Staffords, lucks, Winsons, Mariotas, Newtons in the classes before.
Now if Goff can not provide that upgrade now the picks really hurt in the presence and probably the near future.
In the NFL it is so tough to hold a team together for an extended time. Injuries and free agency practically make it impossible.
Rams have a pretty good D and a super RB in place right now but who nows how long they can hold onto Gurley, Donals, Quinn and some others ? We have already seen this offseason with Jenkins and McLeod and a couple others how fast the complexion of a unit can change.Rams for some years now are always the youngest team in the league, always building for the future. For what future ? More mediocre seasons at or under 0.500?
As it looks now it would have been much wiser for success in the present and the near future to hold onto the picks and not draft an overrated QB who now will not contribute in any way on the field for the unforeseen future.
Maybe some day he will become a franchise QB, maybe not. But if that happens chances are not bad other stars who right now make this team go will be on the downtrend of their careers or have left for other destinations.
znModeratorLA-MIN GRADES: VIKINGS SAFETIES SHINE IN PRESEASON WEEK 4 WIN OVER RAMS
Top takeaways and highest-graded players from the Minnesota Vikings’ preseason Week 4 win over the Los Angeles Rams.
BOBBY SLOWIK
Minnesota Vikings 27, Los Angeles Rams 25
Here are the biggest takeaways and highest graded players from the Minnesota Vikings 27-25 victory over the Los Angeles Rams in preseason Week 4.
Los Angeles Rams
Quarterback grades: Sean Mannion, 50.2; Jared Goff, 40.2
Jared Goff continues to struggle in preseason
Goff was turnover-prone again Thursday night as he dropped a snap and threw a batted pass that wound up being intercepted. To be fair, the batted pass was largely a product of luck and an impressive diving snag by a defensive lineman, but the turnover trend is concerning in year one for the young QB. He had little help from his WRs as well, who contributed four dropped passes that add up to a paltry 37.5 completion percentage for the first overall pick.
Goff’s passing numbers under pressure for the preseason:

Top offensive grades
C Eric Kush, 82.3
OT Pace Murphy, 80.6
OG David Arkin, 78.8
OT Andrew Donnal, 73.8
OG Garrett Reynolds, 73.2
Offensive line shows some bright spots for Rams
All five of the top offensive players for the Rams last night played offensive line. C Eric Kush had the best performance of the bunch with an 80.1 run-block performance although he surrendered a sack in pass protection. OT Pace Murphy led the charge in pass protection with a clean sheet while also contributing in the run game for a 75.5 run-block grade on 30 snaps. OG David Arkin was another player that stood out in the run game with a run-block grade of 77.8 as well as a pass protection grade of 81.4 despite surrendered a QB hurry.
Top defensive grades
S Christian Bryant, 88.9
LB Josh Forrest, 83.7
DI Morgan Fox, 83.5
S Maurice Alexander, 79
DI Dominique Easley, 78.7
Safeties show up in the run game
S Christian Bryant had a great night in run support with a total of four tackles and two run stops, earning a run-defense grade of 91.7. He also added in a QB hit and allowed no receptions on two targets on the night. LB Josh Forrest also was evident in the run game, posting an 86.2 run-defense grade. He also contributed a sack and a QB hurry as a pass-rusher. The highest-graded pass-rusher was DI Morgan Fox, who earned a 82.9 grade in that area and compiled two sacks and two QB hits along with some other impressive rushes that did not result in a stat.
Minnesota Vikings
Quarterback grades: Joel Stave, 50.5; Brad Sorensen, 45.3
Vikings QBs do little to comfort reeling fans
QB Joel Stave had a below-average night, which did little to soothe a fan base that is still reeling from the injury to Teddy Bridgewater. QB Shaun Hill did not play, which gave Stave the opportunity to build some confidence. He wound up going 9-for-19 for 76 yards and a 58.2 QB rating. Although he did have two drops from his targets, he was also sacked twice and was inconsistent with his accuracy. The same could be said for QB Brad Sorensen, as he was plagued by inaccuracy on his nine attempts and was also sacked three times.
Top offensive grades
OT Jeremiah Sirles, 80.8
WR Jarius Wright, 75.4
HB C.J. Ham, 70.8
OT T.J. Clemmings, 68.6
HB Jhurell Pressley, 60.2
Running backs help lead the way for the Vikings
OT Jeremiah Sirles had a solid game in pass protection, earning an 84.0 pass-block grade despite surrendering a sack. His run-block grade of 69.8 was less impressive on 31 run-play snaps. WR Jarius Wright had three catches for 35 yards and no drops leading the way in the receiving game although only three of those yards came after the catch. HBs C.J. Ham and Jhurrell Pressley had good games, although they were productive in different ways. Ham had a positive rushing performance with 59 yards on 15 attempts and 20 yards after contact, as well as posting a pass-protection grade of 82.8. Pressley led the way in receiving from the backfield with 4 catches for 49 yard and 1 TD, and he forced two missed tackles after the catch. Altogether that earned the HB a 83.5 receiving grade.
Top defensive grades
S Jayron Kearse, 87.3
DE Zach Moore, 82.2
DE Justin Trattou, 78.4
LB Kentrell Brothers, 74.4
CB Jabari Price, 72.5
Pass rush steps up for the Vikings
DEs Zach Moore and Justin Trattou led the way in creating pressure for Minnesota’s defense. Moore tallied a sack and four QB hurries while Trattou had a QB hit, a QB hurry and a batted pass. S Jayron Kearse was the stud of the defense, earning a high grade in all phases with an 86.3 run-defense grade and 85.7 coverage grade. He finished the night with 6 tackles, 1 assist and 3 run stops while only allowing 7 yards on 2 targets. LB Kentrell Brothers also had a good night with a 6 tackles, 1 assist, 3 stops and a 74.2 run-defense grade.
September 3, 2016 at 8:09 am in reply to: vids & visuals from Vikes game (including "every Goff throw from last nite") #52099
znModerator.@Rams rookie @AaronGreen22 goes untouched into the end zone.
The @Vikings lead is now 27-25. #LAvsMIN https://t.co/pIyjK6cpwp
— NFL (@NFL) September 2, 2016
znModeratorJoe Curley@vcsjoecurley
I’ve heard both Ventura County products, WR Nelson Spruce and CB Troy Hill, will survive Rams’ cut to 53 Saturday.
znModeratorWho wears 34?
34 is Chase Reynolds.
znModeratorWhat we learned from the Rams’ 27-25 exhibition loss to the Minnesota Vikings
Gary Klein
http://www.latimes.com/sports/rams/la-sp-rams-vikings-what-we-learned-20160901-snap-story.html
Jared Goff is not ready to be the starter … or the backup.
The Rams traded up – and gave up a lot of draft picks – to pick quarterback Jared Goff No. 1 in the draft.
The big move will not pay immediate dividends.
That was fairly clear after three exhibitions, and Goff’s performance against the Vikings solidified it.
During the first series, Goff looked like he finally had found his groove. He was making plays outside the pocket and passed for a short touchdown.
That was it for highlights.
After the game, Coach Jeff Fisher acknowledged that Goff was “not ready” and said he’d probably go with Sean Mannion as the No. 2 quarterback.
Brian Quick still has trouble catching the ball
Perhaps Fisher needs to publicly jump on Quick’s case every week.
After several drops in practices and early exhibitions, Fisher twice called out Quick to reporters, saying the fifth-year pro needed to catch the ball.
Voila! Quick was targeted three times against the Denver Broncos and he caught the ball each time.
But against the Vikings, Quick dropped a pass on the Rams’ second play from scrimmage. He was targeted twice and did not have a catch.
With rookie Pharoh Cooper possibly sidelined for the opener because of a shoulder injury, Quick needs to make good on his prove-it contract.
Special teams are not living up to their name
The Rams got a pass when they allowed the Dallas Cowboys to return the opening kick-off for a touchdown in the first exhibition game.
It was the first game at the Coliseum in more than 20 years…. The stadium was packed and the players were overly excited…. They came back and won…. Fill in another excuse of your choice here.
Against the Vikings, with young players desperately trying to make a good final impression, the Rams allowed Jhurell Pressley to return a kick-off 106 yards for a touchdown. At least six Rams players had shots at Pressley and missed.
Duke Williams let a punted ball bounce off his leg, and the Vikings recovered to set up a field goal.
Paul McRoberts muffed a punt and the Vikings recovered at the six-yard line, setting up a touchdown.
Rob Havenstein is back
Havenstein started at right tackle after returning from a foot injury that sidelined him throughout organized team activities and training camp.
He still needs to work himself into game shape, but his limited appearance was an encouraging sign for a line that needs to take the next step.
Havenstein’s presence enables versatile Rodger Saffold to possibly move back to left guard. Saffold had been playing right tackle. Against the Vikings, Saffold filled in at left tackle for Greg Robinson, who went through concussion protocol last week after playing against Denver.
Morgan Fox plays defensive tackle
The Rams are very deep along the defensive line, so the low-profile Fox is a long shot to make the roster.
But the former Colorado State Pueblo standout made the most of his opportunity against the Vikings, getting two sacks and pressuring the quarterback four times.
It was exactly the kind of performance an undrafted free agent needed in his final audition for the Rams … and other NFL teams if he gets cut.
The Rams’ new stadium will be impressive
The renderings for the Rams’ Inglewood stadium, scheduled for completion in 2019, resemble U.S. Bank Stadium in some ways.
That’s not a coincidence because the Dallas-based HKS architecture firm designed both.
We won’t even begin to speculate about how much the luxury suites and personal seat licenses will cost in star-obsessed Southern California.
Inglewood does not present the same visible skyline opportunities that Minneapolis boasts, but it’s certain that there will be plenty of cutting edge bells and whistles at the Rams’ new home.
znModeratorCan confirm WR Nelson Spruce will make the #Rams 53-man roster.
— Vincent Bonsignore (@DailyNewsVinny) September 3, 2016
znModeratorRT Rob Havenstein said he felt really good after his first preseason action, especially getting to go out with his teammates for first time.
— Myles Simmons (@MylesASimmons) September 2, 2016
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