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znModeratorhttp://www.ocregister.com/articles/quinn-735574-defensive-rams.html
GUARDING GOFF
For those hoping for a soft landing spot for Jared Goff, a date with Ndamukong Suh and the Dolphins’ upstart defense isn’t exactly ideal for the rookie quarterback’s first start.
Miami is on a four-game win streak, thanks in large part to a renewed effort from their defensive front. Led by Suh and Pro Bowl defensive end Cameron Wake, the Dolphins’ defense has 12 sacks in that four-game span, after tallying just 10 in its first five games.
The Rams’ offensive line has allowed 23 sacks this season, but with a rookie now under center, the pressure to keep him upright in the weeks to come will no doubt be elevated.
Offensive tackle Rob Havenstein suggested that pressure to play better up front was there before Tuesday’s quarterback change.
“We want to perform better offensively,” Havenstein said, “and a lot of that comes down to how we play as an offensive line.”
Though, the lion’s share of pressure, literally and figuratively, will be on Goff to stay composed against such a fierce Miami front.
“Goff is going to have to be able to sit in there with pressure and throw a good ball,” offensive guard Rodger Saffold said. “It’s never going to be perfect, but once again, that doesn’t change the job. (For us), the job is the same. Keep him away from as much pressure as we possibly can.”
znModeratorAs I recall every time we have seen Fisher make a qb change, he said just after the benched qb’s last game “we’re not changing qbs.”
Yeah, on the radio today a couple of guys were talking and said that Fisher said Keenum was the guy still on Monday, but on Tuesday morning, he sudden tells Keenum and Goff that it’s Goff, so Stan or Les must’ve got to him, or job pressure, or something.
Noooo.
Fisher says whatever he has to say to the press, and runs his business indoors. It wouldn’t surprise me to learn later that this date was targeted during the bye week. But you don’t say anything to Keenum, and you don’t say anything to Goff, and you certainly don’t say anything to the press until you’ve told both Keenum and Goff. That’s just basic. And you don’t tell Keenum and Goff until the beginning of the work week. Any other course would be foolish, imo.
yeah that purty much nails it
znModeratorSilver & Wyche and others on why the time was now
SILVER
http://www.nfl.com/videos/los-angeles-rams/0ap3000000740206/Why-did-Rams-choose-to-start-Goff-now
SILVER
SILVER
WYCHE
WYCHE & SILVER
http://www.nfl.com/videos/los-angeles-rams/0ap3000000740322/Is-Jared-Goff-ready-to-start
znModeratorAnd, sure, he told everyone Sunday and Monday there was no change, but any coach worth a nickle would say that. He wanted to talk to Keenum privately first, and Goff. Only an asshole would say to the media that he was switching QBs before he talked to the QBs.
Yeah I am aboard with the “when he’s ready” argument.
As I recall every time we have seen Fisher make a qb change, he said just after the benched qb’s last game “we’re not changing qbs.”
And then voila. Hill for Davis, Keenum for Foles, and for that matter Bradford being traded.
The 2 benchings (Davis, Foles), if I recall, were also announced early in the week.
Interestingly, following (though not immediately) the traditional Monday coach’s film review meeting.
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znModeratorJared Goff will be the 19th quarterback to start for the Rams in last 17 seasons
Business Insider
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/cleveland-browns-used-absurd-number-194532268.html
The Los Angeles Rams will reportedly reverse course and will now start No. 1 pick Jared Goff in their Week 11 matchup against the Miami Dolphins. When Goff takes the field, he will become the 19th quarterback to start a game for the Rams in the last 17 seasons.
Since the start of the 2000 season, the Rams have continually looked for a franchise quarterback, and outside of Sam Bradford’s brief reign, each one has failed so far. Amazingly, Goff is just the third quarterback to be drafted by the Rams in the first five rounds of the draft during that period, joining Bradford (No. 1 overall in 2010) and current Rams backup Sean Mannion (third round in 2015).
znModeratorIn need of an offensive spark, Rams begin the Jared Goff era
Alden Gonzalez
LOS ANGELES — At long last, amid deafening demands and escalating anticipation, the Jared Goff era is set to begin in this city.
It’s time.
Los Angeles Rams coach Jeff Fisher made up his mind Tuesday morning and informed Case Keenum that Goff, the No. 1 overall pick in the 2016 NFL draft, would be his starting quarterback for Sunday’s home game against streaking Miami, a development that was first reported by ESPN’s Chris Mortensen. And anyone who has watched this team realizes why this needed to happen.
The Rams’ offense has been lifeless of late, in desperate need of a spark. The Rams are dead last in the NFL in points per game, with a quarterback who has shouldered the game’s lowest Total QBR for pretty much the entire season. Lately, their defense has been dominant and their special teams play has been a major positive. But the offense has held them back. They stopped their four-game losing streak by beating the Jets on Sunday, but it came by a 9-6 score because their offense couldn’t capitalize on three separate drives into the red zone.
Now the Rams will be at home, in front of the same Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum crowd that began a “We Want Goff!” chant nine days earlier, and Goff will not carry the burden of a long losing streak.
This was never really about Keenum, who handled a difficult situation admirably and at times actually played well. It wasn’t about Goff’s ability, because that can be difficult to decipher from a handful of scout-team reps. This was about Fisher having the confidence to pull the trigger; about growing comfortable with the unknown of a rookie quarterback who is only one month removed from his 22nd birthday.
Jared Goff’s only action this season has been in pregame warm-ups. Mark LoMoglio/Icon Sportswire
Five rookie quarterbacks have started at least one game in the NFL this season, but all of them — Carson Wentz with the Eagles, Dak Prescott with the Cowboys, Jacoby Brissett with the Patriots, Cody Kessler with the Browns and Paxton Lynch with the Broncos — were thrust into the role because of unforeseen circumstances. Goff comes out of a Cal system that ran an air raid offense in which he never had to communicate plays from the huddle, take a snap from under center or make so much as a third progression.He struggled in the preseason, going 22-of-49 for 232 yards, two touchdowns, two interceptions and three fumbles, hardly looking comfortable with the speed of the game. He began the regular season as an inactive third-stringer and was promoted to backup for Week 2. But as the regular season began, Rams coaches began to praise Goff’s development.
About mid-October, offensive coordinator Rob Boras said Goff was “not asking rookie questions anymore,” a clear indication he was finally grasping the offense. And after Goff got all the first-team reps during the Rams’ bye week, Boras praised the way he translated it onto the field — the quickness with which he got in and out of the huddle, the confidence he displayed as he approached the line of scrimmage, the accuracy with which he delivered passes.
Said Boras: “We were all really pleased to see what he was able to do in those couple of practices.”
You could sense the momentum turning in Goff’s favor last week, when Fisher was asked once again why Goff would not be his starting quarterback. He pointed only to the upcoming matchup, saying the Jets defense they were about to face was too intricate for a rookie to debut against them. On Goff, he said: “With each passing week, he’s getting better and better. He’s better understanding, he’s recognizing things, he’s prepared, he understands the challenges week-to-week.”
Keep in mind: This season is not lost for the Rams.
They are 4-5, but because of the NFL’s widespread mediocrity, they are only 1 1/2 games removed from a wild-card spot. He might have waited longer than many would have hoped, but this was Fisher trusting Goff at a critical juncture of the Rams’ season (heck, a critical juncture with his own job situation).
Goff alone will not fix this offense. The running game has been a disaster, with Todd Gurley ranking 41st among 43 qualified running backs in rushing yards per attempt behind an offensive line that is allowing way too much penetration. And Goff’s road will not be easy. He’ll face a Dolphins team that has won four straight, features menacing defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh, and is coming off forcing San Diego’s Philip Rivers into four interceptions. Then Goff will have an early game on the road against New Orleans, travel to face New England, go up against Atlanta, and then, four days later, travel to face Seattle.
But Goff is the spark this offense — this city — needs right now. They need his poise in the pocket. They need his arm strength. Heading into the season, former Rams quarterback Jim Everett talked about how Goff “can visualize the deep ball better than anyone on that roster.” Maybe Goff will have better chemistry with Tavon Austin, who has had a hard time connecting with Keenum. Maybe he will get defenses to stop stacking the box against Gurley. Maybe he will push this offense a step forward.
Regardless, it’s time for the Rams to find out.
znModeratorisher can’t win here. If Goff sucks, fans will be jumping off the top of the stadium. If he’s great, they will want Fisher’s head for waiting so long to start him.
I’m a fan. I ain’t doin none of those things.
I think they started him when they intended to, and I don’t have any conspiracy theories about it. On how he does? I will wait n see n call em as I see em.
znModeratori was really just trying to point out that there are other reasons beyond just climate change to look for alternative energy sources.
and i also pointed out that man made climate change deniers should also not shut out the possibility that climate change is indeed real.
Yeah makes sense.
znModeratorSince the start of the 2003 season, West Coast teams have gone just 61-111 (35.5%) against East Coast teams
Wonder what the other way around is.
Of course, WC teams travelling to the EC are starting 3 hours earlier. Wonder if that makes a difference between WC teams going east and EC teams going west.
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znModeratori think it’s always better to remain a skeptic rather than just dogmatically cling onto an idea.
Those are not the only 2 alternatives.
People who see climate change as man-made see themselves as going with the science, and also lament the damage that the (well-funded) deniers campaign has had in the USA (though nowhere else).
We don’t see it as being “dogmatic.” I do see things like the reps in Congress putting pressure on both the CIA and the Pentagon to “flip” on this, when in fact both the CIA and Pentagon are well aware of the risks c.change poses to the country and the world.
I also see, and heavily count, things like this:
One survey of earth scientists found that while 97 per cent of actively publishing climate scientists agree humans are changing global temperatures, only 47 per cent of economic geologists (those who study geology with a view to its commerical exploitation) concur (pdf). In fact, among all earth scientists, economic geologists are the most sceptical.
znModeratorI wonder if it is time for Pharaoh Cooper to take over return duties from Tavon Austin. I mean let Tavon be just a WR, while the kid learns as the return guy. What do you think?
I think that I don’t think Tavon is a receiver. He’s a multi-faceted offensive weapon who can catch passes. But he’s not a pure receiver. When I see him, there’s something he’s missing as a receiver, even though he added more routes to his “can do it” list this year. I liked last year better when he had as many runs as catches and also served as a very effective decoy. The gains he made this year in the receiver role, I would rather see those added to what he was last year instead of going forward with him playing more of a pure receiver role as he has been this year. I like Austin as a PR because teams live in fear of him returning one. He’s always a step or 2 away from breaking it.
Until Cooper shows me something, he’s a rookie and not this big promise.
znModerator“I wanna live in a country which has more community oriented values (i.e. socialized medicine, maternity leave, retirement, vacation time…egalitarian quality of life), and this country just isn’t going to be that place.”
Well you can pine for your pie in the sky, “imagine all the people” utopia all you want, but aside from all the other developed democracies in the world, no such place exists.
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znModeratorTo get people to pay for that which is most likely never needed. It is the basis of the insurance industry. Without fear no one would buy insurance. Think!
He didn’t mention just insurance. He mentioned the US military. I could add the oil companies themselves, which it has been revealed, while funding deniers also consciously made internal policies consistent with the science of climate change.
Anyway, I am actually not into debating this…mostly cause it would (ironically) take energy. I am just one of those who is thoroughly convinced by the climate change argument. I’m just voting out loud. So we’ll just have to differ on this one.
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znModeratorWell except I don’t think that the people claiming they want to leave are the minorities.
And there is no indication that american-born minorities face anything like systematic, state-decreed direct persecution. It’s more the case that here and there, and all too often, local authorities who happen to be prejudiced individuals act on their beliefs in negative ways. Or at least that’s when it comes to the actions of people who work for local government. Most of the acts of violence are private citizens acting on their prejudices.
If asked in the 30s if German Jews had a chance to reclaim Germany as an enlightened place, I would say no.
In the USA, in contrast, I don’t think the majority would tolerate direct, state-mandated persecution of american-born minorities.
It’s a different story with immigrants, especially those from africa (including somalis) or the middle east.
Interesting video related to all that.
November 14, 2016 at 11:42 pm in reply to: Robert Reich: The Democratic Party Needs To Clean House #58378znModeratorShould we close this thread?
IMO it has kind of devolved.
Or can it be resurrected?
znModeratorFirst one (above)…good one. Gettin to “must read” territory…you can at least see the border.
znModeratorIn some respects, this was a nightmare scenario for Rams. Case Keenum was not so bad as to encourage a quarterback change from the team, but nowhere near good enough that it would change opinions on him. Keenum played as safe a game as you’re likely to see from him, working largely on the short stuff with just three deep shots (20+ yards in the air). That was in part due to the Jets being blitz-heavy (18 of 35 dropbacks), and with just two sacks taken on those blitz packages, Keenum did a good enough job of making quick decisions and avoid costly turnovers.
The defensive line of Sheldon Richardson, Muhammad Wilkerson, and Leonard Williams were likely licking their lips at their matchup before this game, but they didn’t have the kind of impact or game-changing plays this team needed.
I think all of this is spot on.
That’s the league’s 4th best rushing defense and the Rams got 125 yards on them on the ground.
It wasn’t easy to do and it didn’t look pretty.
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znModeratorIMO we don’t make any advances in analysis by downplaying that.
Or by excusing/ignoring the hypocrisy.
I submit to you, that that’s isolated. (Plus one is a sign at a protest and another is a attack graffiti painted on a church. The graffiti thing not being rare on the day of the election.)
I also submit to you, that the people in this country who tend toward ordinary racism, and/or homophobia, and/or islamaphobia…and we’re kind of known as a country for having sizeable portions of all 3…mostly voted for Trump.
And that’s not new. Historically the USA has often seen right-wing, racially charged populism emerge during economic crisis. That goes back decades.
Remember this is not the overt white supremacists I am talking about. That’s just one ribbon on the kite tail. This is the ordinary, everyday, part of the environment kind of racism I am talking about. The kind where people would be embarassed by cross-burning extremists but then tend in their minds to generalize negatively about blacks en mass, and so on. Let alone about transgender people, or gays, or whatnot.
Mack knows what I mean…he sees it too.
Can there be an honest, non-racist supporter of Trump? Sure. Though I think it’s evident his actual economic policies (if he sticks with what he promises) will not be helpful at all to most of his working- and middle-class supporters. It’s the same stuff that got us here (ie. the discredited supply side stuff.)
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znModeratorTaunting Billy is not classy.
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vThis post should be deleted.
I agree that it is personal taunting which is not permitted.
I can’t delete a lead post without deleting the entire thread but the thread is closed.
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znModeratorRams punter Johnny Hekker saves the day
Alden Gonzalez
http://www.espn.com/blog/los-angeles-rams/post/_/id/31723/rams-punter-johnny-hekker-saves-the-day
EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. — Perhaps Alec Ogletree was on to something.
The Los Angeles Rams middle linebacker, who came up with the clinching interception, recently suggested that punter Johnny Hekker might be the team’s first-half MVP. And on Sunday, in a 9-6 victory over the New York Jets, Hekker validated Ogletree’s point.
Hekker at one point pinned the Jets at their own 1-yard line, then boomed a 78-yard punt that sent them to the 15.
“I’m going to tell my kids it was a 100-yard punt,” Rams quarterback Case Keenum said. “He’s a weapon for us. It’s great to have a guy like that.”
Alec Ogletree recently suggested that punter Johnny Hekker might be the team’s first-half MVP. And on Sunday, Hekker validated Ogletree’s point. Alan Schaefer/Icon Sportswire
Especially for an offense that continually struggles to score points.The Jets wound up with a touchdown despite getting pinned at the 1-yard line on Hekker’s 42-yard punt late in the first quarter. But his 78-yard punt might have been the play of the game. It came in a 6-6 tie early in the fourth quarter. Hekker punted a couple of yards from his own end zone and forced Jets returner Jalin Marshall to back up inside the Rams’ 5-yard line to catch it.
Marshall reached the 15, the Jets went three-and-out and the Rams’ offense took advantage of the favorable field position by kicking the game-winning field goal.
“When you’re looking at one 10-yard line and see the ball end up on the other 10-yard line, that’s a good change of field,” Rams defensive end Robert Quinn said. “That’s why he’s a three-time captain and two-time Pro Bowler. He’s a special punter. They don’t get a lot of credit, but he helps us out a lot.”
Hekker punted seven times for 362 yards and placed four of them inside the 20-yard line, including another one that traveled 52 yards. His 78-yard punt tied the Jaguars’ Brad Nortman for the NFL’s longest this season and went down as the fourth longest in Rams history, 10 yards shy of the record held by Bob Waterfield. It came one week after Hekker set a career high with a 75-yard punt in the 13-10 loss to the Carolina Panthers.
Hekker still has only one touchback all season and has pinned opponents inside the 20-yard line 56 percent of the time, the second-best rate in the NFL.
MVP, right?
“I’m just one player,” Hekker said. “I do my best, but if Jake McQuaide isn’t putting the snaps in the right spot, or if guys aren’t picking up stunts, then I wouldn’t be comfortable back there. The same way a quarterback relies on his offensive line, I rely on my punt team.”
znModeratorgreat video. and then i went to read the comments section. it made me want to crawl into a hole.
yeah. they’re being lied to and manipulated. and they’re not necessarily racist or homophobic or misogynist. they’re just scared.
And many of them ARE racist, homophophic, and/or misogynist.
Look, it’s not a progressive country for the most part, at that level. There are large percentages of all 3 things in the country. And people who feel that way, which candidate were they most likely to vote for?
IMO we don’t make any advances in analysis by downplaying that.
znModeratorI missed the game, so I’m just goin off what I’ve read but I can say I’m glad they came away with a W but why do I feel as though it was another loss? Not much to be excited about after that hollow victory.
Nah. There was nothing hollow about it. Like I said, I don’t believe in moral defeats. They got 125 yards rushing against the league’s 4th best run defense, on the road, and subtracted all the major turnovers they’ve been committing.
That was the Rams OL against one of the 2-3 best defensive fronts in the game.
They gutted out a close one and so now it’s on to game 10.
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znModeratorbnw: Gays attacked for no good reason? There are countless knock out videos of black on white violence
zn: How are those 2 things related?
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i think he’s saying that there are instances of whites being attacked for no good reason
Yeah, that’s what he’s saying, but how is whites being attacked for no good reason related to gays being attacked for no good reason?
Most of the gays attacked would BE white.
And sexuality is not race.
It purports to offer a “turn the tables” symmetry, but there’s no symmetry and the tables didn’t turn.
If I said women often suffer harassment at work, is it much of a response to say yeah but latinos sometimes get unfairly ticketed for speeding?
znModeratorGays attacked for no good reason? There are countless knock out videos of black on white violence
How are those 2 things related?
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znModeratorOkay, I hear you. And I still agree with the original comment. The hell we inflicted on several client states by propping up dictators really does come to mind for me when I hear people wishing to leave because they get a president they don’t like.
I say, if you don’t like it, do something constructive about it.
See, if I were the family of an El Salvador citizen who got his eyes gouged out by US-backed (and often US trained) torturers, I would say “yeah tell me about it.”
I understand that they would well think that.
But, by that logic, no Jews should have emigrated to Palestine in the 30s because the German government was rotten to East Africans. I bet Elie Weisel wished his family had pursued the option of moving.
Jews emigrated because they were a persecuted minority.
There are americans who face prejudice, and it has its own death count, but it has not reached that level.
It’s better IMO to stand with your allies and reclaim the place.
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znModeratorBonsignore: Rams’ victory over Jets does nothing to mask their inept offense
VINCENT BONSIGNORE
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/rams-735328-fisher-quarterback.html
EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. – After five weeks of whispers and sullen looks and sideways glances and despair inside the Rams locker room, a tiny glimmer of hope emerged Sunday from the chill of New Jersey.
It came in the form of a 9-6 win over the New York Jets that, for the moment anyway, stops the bleeding of a four-game losing streak and stabilizes the Rams a bit.
That’s the good news.
“We’ll take it,” Rams coach Jeff Fisher said.
He should, obviously.
The name of the game is to win, and the Rams stayed out of their way long enough Sunday to achieve that objective.
They deserve to enjoy it, shallow as it might be on a day the offense couldn’t score a touchdown against a really bad Jets team and only the defense and punter Johnny Hekker deserved accolades.
Which is pretty much par for the course for the Rams this season. While the defense and Hekker deliver playoff-caliber performances, the offense continues to bumble about.
Three games have passed, with two touchdowns to show for them. And one of those scores came courtesy of a prevent defense in the closing minutes.
Still, a win is a win. And that meant smiles rather than frowns Sunday.
But another day is beckoning.
And when Fisher and the Rams rise to greet it Monday it won’t matter they beat a morbidly bad team Sunday to stop a frustrating losing streak, or that 4-5 looks a hell of a lot better than 3-6, or that, technically, the playoffs still remain in reach.
None of it matters in the least.
The same troubling baggage the Rams arrived in New Jersey with got loaded back up into trunks and suitcases and overnight bags for the return trip to Los Angeles Sunday night.
The same questions dog them.
The same problems plague them.
Nothing was answered or solved or fixed.
And no one had anything more than hollow words, season-old responses and frustrating cliches to address them.
Case Keenum and the offense managed just three field goals, which wouldn’t be all that bad had they not been a few feet from the end zone with four cracks at crossing it but moved backward rather than forward and had to settle for a field goal rather than seven points.
And even less disconcerting if Keenum and the offense weren’t the season-long issue they’ve been.
But we all know scoring and offensive efficiency and consistency are literally the most glaring problems on a team that might actually be pretty good if the offense just held up its end of the bargain.
And Sunday was just a continuation of a conundrum the Rams have talked about, analyzed, scrutinized and promised to fix all season.
But to the naked eye, have done very little to actually address.
Like, say, try to create a spark by making a change at quarterback and giving rookie Jared Goff a chance to do what Keenum obviously can’t.
The only thing more consistent than Keenum and the offensive struggles is the praise being heaped on Goff getting better every week. From Fisher to offensive coordinator Rob Boras, the narrative every day is Goff continues to make strides in the classroom and on the practice field.
If that’s truly the case, shouldn’t it be about time the first overall pick got the nod over the guy quarterbacking the Rams into one brick wall after another?
Apparently not, according to Fisher. Once again he completely shot down the notion of a quarterback change Sunday.
Just as he’s done all season, and specifically the last three weeks when Keenum and the offense have taken steps back rather than forward.
“No, I’m not going into the quarterback situation,” he reiterated Sunday. “As I’ve said, I don’t believe it’s quarterback play.”
Giver Fisher credit for backing his player.
But by the same token, a big “huh?” and “are you serious?” is absolutely valid.
In what football world is Fisher operating when he claims an offense unable to consistently get into the opposing end zone while averaging a league-worst 16.3 points a game isn’t at least partially the fault of the quarterback?
“I’m not putting that on the quarterback,” Fisher said.
That’s ridiculous.
Keenum is doing nothing to justify keeping his job. Not in the won/loss column or the stat book. He was billed as a game manager, but he isn’t delivering.
Nothing personal. Just the reality of professional football.
Yet Fisher continues to resist.
It’s the head-scratcher of all head-scratchers.
This isn’t only about getting Goff some much needed experience and accelerating his development for next year and beyond.
The Rams are absolutely still in contention for a playoff spot.
But they can no longer afford to go into games with one hand tied behind their backs. Not when a potential solution is standing on the sideline in the form of a quarterback the Rams gave up six draft picks to acquire and insisted was the best quarterback in last April’s draft.
A player they continually remind us they believe in and is getting better and better by the day.
The Rams defense deserves better than what Fisher and the offense are giving in return.
And even though Fisher has a potential solution standing a few feet away from him on the sideline, he refuses to utilize it.
It’s a head-scratcher, all right.
Even on a day the Rams could smile.
znModeratorThese reactions make one pause and wonder how long these same people would last under the Arab and African dictatorships and occupiers the US has propped up and maintained positive ties with over the years.
That article irritated me several times, starting with this dumb comment.
I actually agree with that comment. What do you object to there? Honestly curious.
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It’s just stupidly convoluted. Let me count the ways.
First off, it’s like saying, “Shut up, or I will REALLY give you something to cry about” which is one of the stupidest things some parents say to their kids.
Secondly, “these same people would last under the Arab and African dictatorships and occupiers” exactly as long as the people who are under those conditions. People are people, and they put up with a lot of adversity in life…like genocides and whatever…because people hang onto life no matter what, generally speaking. And there is no reason to think Americans would give up any faster than anyone else.
Thirdly, the people who are thinking out loud about emigrating are doing so because they object to oppressive politics, and are likely opposed to the US support of those regimes in the first place, and in any event, have nothing whatsoever to do with them because those kinds of decisions are made by politicians and CIA types. They aren’t campaign issues that we vote on. So their search for a more preferable political climate to live in is not hypocritical, as he is implying. There is simply no connection. It is a total non-sequiter from the get-go.
Finally, some of those people looking to leave ARE people who left those oppressive situations in the mid-east, came HERE to get away from it, and fear the rise of oppression here.
So it’s hard to weigh all the stupid in that one sentence alone, and it didn’t get any better for me as I read on.
That what you wanted?
Okay, I hear you. And I still agree with the original comment. The hell we inflicted on several client states by propping up dictators really does come to mind for me when I hear people wishing to leave because they get a president they don’t like.
I say, if you don’t like it, do something constructive about it.
See, if I were the family of an El Salvador citizen who got his eyes gouged out by US-backed (and often US trained) torturers, I would say “yeah tell me about it.”
znModeratorAlec Ogletree makes game-winning interception
Los Angeles Rams linebacker Alec Ogletree makes a game-winning interception.
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Johnny Hekker punts 78 yards
Los Angeles Rams’ Johnny Hekker punts for 78 yards.
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Tavon Austin stiff arms defender, fights for 21-yard gain
Los Angeles Rams wide receiver Tavon Austin makes a catch then stiff arms a defender for 21 yards.
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Kenny Britt makes one-handed catch for 25 yards
Los Angeles Rams wide receiver Kenny Britt makes a one-handed catch for 25 yards.
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Benny Cunningham rushes for 24 yards to the 1-yard line
Los Angeles Rams running back Benny Cunningham rushes for 24 yards to the 1-yard line.
znModeratorIn his tenure with the Rams has Fisher ever won
back to back Out-of-Conference games?I think not.
Has he even won back to back out-of-division games?
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vBoth.
Jagz then Texans, games 5 & 6, 2013.
Oakland then Washington, games 13 & 14, 2014.
Detroit then Tampa, games 14 & 15, 2015
znModeratorDefense carries Rams again in 9-6 win over Jets
RICH HAMMOND
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/scng-735314-contact-writer.html
EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. – Scoring touchdowns, apparently is overrated.
The Rams, for a second time this season, won a game in which they never celebrated in the end zone. The Rams used three field goals from Greg Zuerlein and some typically solid defense to beat the New York Jets 9-6 on Sunday at MetLife Stadium.
In good position to break their four-game losing streak against a struggling, hobbling opponent, the Rams (4-5) didn’t make it easy on themselves against the Jets (3-7).
They needed a field-flipping, 78-yard punt from Johnny Hekker in the fourth quarter to change the momentum. The Jets went three and out after that punt, and the Rams took over at their 48 with 11 minutes left in a 6-6 game.
The Rams picked up three first downs and got to the Jets’ 16, but then had to settle for Zuerlein’s 34-yard field goal with 6:52 remaining.
From there, the Rams’ defense held up. The Jets had a final chance, with the ball at their 23 with 2:55 remaining and no timeouts, but Rams linebacker Alec Ogletree came up with an interception to seal the win.
The Rams still have scored only one touchdown in their last 11 quarters, but they have a victory. The Rams have failed to score a touchdown in three of their nine games this season, but they’ve won two of them, as Sunday followed an early-season 9-3 victory over Seattle.
The Rams, who went much of the second quarter without a first down, managed to put together a good drive late in the third quarter and tied the game 6-6 on Zuerlein’s 38-yard field goal.
Todd Gurley, who totaled only 10 yards in the first half, got things going with a 13-yard run on the drive’s first play, and the Rams got to the Jets’ 7 and had first and goal. But the Rams lost two yards on a run, then had an offensive pass interference call. On the third-down play, a flag was thrown in the end zone, but officials conferred and decided that the Jets did not commit pass interference.
The Jets, decimated by injuries, turned to third-string quarterback Bryce Petty, who made his first NFL start and did relatively well in place of Ryan Fitzpatrick.
Petty completed 19 of 32 attempts for 163 yards, but the Jets’ run-heavy offense relied on Matt Forte, who gained 98 yards on 20 attempts. The Rams, who during the week talked about the importance of forcing turnovers, did not record one until Ogletree’s late interception.
Meanwhile, the Rams continued to struggle on offense for most of the game. Quarterback Case Keenum was inconsistent after a solid start and finished 17 of 30 for 165 yards. Receiver Kenny Britt was the Rams’ bit threat on offense, with seven catches for 109 yards.
The first half looked like a repeat of several previous Rams games, in which they failed to run the ball with any consistency and failed to take advantage of the times they reached Jets territory.
The Rams moved the ball exceedingly well on their first drive, as Keenum and Britt connected three times and a 24-yard run by Benny Cunningham moved the ball to the Jets’ 1.
From there, Cunningham fumbled and lost a yard, tight end Lance Kendricks failed to pick up a yard on a pass and Keenum threw incomplete, and Keenum threw incomplete. The Rams had to settle for a 20-yard field goal and a 3-0 lead with 9:37 remaining in the first quarter.
The Rams forced a three-and-out punt and then moved the ball to the Jets’ 31 but stalled out again, as Gurley lost seven yards on consecutive running plays.
An excellent punt by Hekker, and an even better play by Bradley Marquez to down the ball, forced the Jets to start at their own 1, but the Jets went 99 yards in nine plays to take the lead on a trick play.
Petty completed a short pass to Brandon Marshall, who then lateraled to Bilal Powell to complete a 4-yard touchdown. The Jets missed the extra point but led 6-3 early in the second quarter.
The Rams gained 46 yards on their first play of the second quarter, on a pass from Keenum to Britt, but on their final nine plays, the Rams lost one yard, combined, and didn’t record a first down. The Jets weren’t much better in a scoreless second quarter, as they recorded five first downs.
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