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  • in reply to: Wentz looks pretty good & other gameday observations #52639
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    That aside…Wentz did look good.

    in reply to: Wentz looks pretty good & other gameday observations #52638
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    So far. Lots of time to throw the ball.

    In my mind, it will help put pressure on Fisher, the Rams and Goff. Fisher needs to win now.

    He probably does need to win now. Which is probably why he won’t start Goff soon.

    in reply to: Gary Klein (latimes.com): Rams mailbag #52632
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    But the talking heads are taking that as evidence that Goff isn’t any good, that drafting him was a mistake, that the Rams gave up too much for him. That is just 24-hour news cycle BS, and all I’m saying is that I am surprised nobody has pointed that out.

    to be honest i was disappointed. but i’ve also seen enough to still think that goff can be the starter down the line.

    I agree with all that. The Goff is a bust routine is tiring.

    I also agree that to me anyway, JG showed very positive flashes. He made some throws in the preseason I don’t think any previous Rams qb could make or attempt, and I am counting the good ones.

    in reply to: Gary Klein (latimes.com): Rams mailbag #52611
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    I think an argument can be made the Rams are the team who is doing it right, and the Eagles are screwing it up.

    Depends though. If Phil. is willing to take the hits on losses, then, they are giving their qb live action reps. The difference is, Phil can handle the losses because they’re rebuilding with a new head coach. Rams are in win-now mode. So it can be argued that each is doing the right thing given their different circumstances.

    Though, Phil didn’t plan that. They didn’t plan on making this a rookie sacrifice season. They were initially going to play the veteran qb. Bridgewater changed that.

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    Rams’ defense will have a new look, and coordinator Gregg Williams is fine with that

    Gary Klein

    http://www.latimes.com/sports/rams/la-sp-rams-report-20160910-snap-story.html

    The middle linebacker is playing the position for the first time.

    The weak-side linebacker is a converted safety who led the team in tackles last season.

    The strong-side linebacker?

    After the release of Akeem Ayers, the Rams have all but said they don’t need one.

    At least not very often.

    “If you look at how many teams we’re going to play this year that are going to play two backs in the backfield against us — not very many people like doing that against us,” defensive coordinator Gregg Williams said Saturday. “So take a look at how many times were going to play three linebackers this entire season.”

    On Monday night, when the Rams open the season against the San Francisco 49ers at Levi’s Stadium, Alec Ogletree will be the new middle linebacker, Mark Barron flanks him on one side and the defense could utilize multiple defensive backs “in those areas that a linebacker plays,” Williams said.

    Preview: Rams open season at San Francisco
    Gary Klein and Lindsey Thiry preview the Rams season opener at San Francisco.
    Cornerback E.J. Gaines did not practice this week and was ruled out of the game because of a thigh injury.

    So the Rams could rely heavily on cornerbacks Trumaine Johnson, Coty Sensabaugh and Lamarcus Joyner with safeties T.J. McDonald and Maurice Alexander.

    “It’s a passing league now,” Sensabaugh said, adding, “I’m just ready to compete. I don’t care who’s out there with us.”

    Ayers’ departure — he signed with the Indianapolis Colts — leaves the Rams with three backup linebackers: second-year pro Bryce Hager, sixth-round draft pick Josh Forrest and undrafted free agent Cory Littleton.

    Williams is noted for adapting schemes to fit personnel.

    Last season, after Ogletree suffered a season-ending ankle injury in Week 4 at Arizona, Williams moved Barron from safety to a hybrid role similar to the one played by the Cardinals’ Deone Bucannon.

    Barron flourished, finishing with a team-best 116 tackles.

    “We’re going to play the best guys we have that they bring in the door,” Williams said. “I don’t draft them, I don’t sign them, but when they get here I’m going to coach them.”

    Addressing reporters on the practice field a few yards from the Rams’ modular facility, Williams said Ogletree has put in the work, on and off the field, to make a successful transition to the middle.

    Rams take wraps off Todd Gurley as regular season starts vs. 49ers
    Rams take wraps off Todd Gurley as regular season starts vs. 49ers
    “When I say this I‘ll probably get in trouble: He’s been in here more than our quarterbacks,” Williams said, “and he’s been in the film room longer than some of our coaching staff around here.

    “So you have to respect the fact that he’s going to get an opinion because he works hard.”

    Ready to go

    Left tackle Greg Robinson said he was looking forward to the opener and the chance to show his improvement from a year ago.

    He will be protecting the blind-side of quarterback Case Keenum, who is making his first season-opening start.

    The 6-foot-5, 332-pound Robinson was the No. 2 overall pick in the 2014 draft. He struggled at times with consistency and penalties during his first two seasons.

    “I had a good preseason and that helped build my confidence,” Robinson said. “I feel like the game has slowed down a lot for me.”

    Quick hits

    Receivers Pharoh Cooper (shoulder) and Nelson Spruce (knee) also were ruled out of the game. Offensive tackle Rob Havenstein (foot) and linebacker Bryce Hager (concussion) practicedm but they are listed as questionable…. The Rams will have a short walkthrough Sunday and then depart for the Bay Area

    in reply to: Fisher, Boras, Williams … 9/10 … transcripts #52607
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    We’re going to play the best guys we have that they bring in the door. I don’t draft them, I don’t sign them, but when they get here, I’m going to coach them and if they don’t like how (I coach them), then that’s too bad.”

    Gregg Wms. is always good for a quote or 2.

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    in reply to: Gary Klein (latimes.com): Rams mailbag #52596
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    quick is gone. as soon as spruce and cooper are healthy.

    and does this mean littleton is the third linebacker? just assumed it’d be forrest.

    I assume it’s Forrest too, though it could be both in different packages.

    If Klein is right and it’s Littleton without Forrest showing up much, then, I will have to take back my snarky dig at him. (ie. Klein).

    in reply to: the press chimes in on Goff being inactive #52594
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    I think if I was going to go to the effort of writing a op-ed, I would have chosen a different thesis to argue. That article was a waste of time.

    Well…yeah. Have to agree.

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    . all he’s got to do at this point is worry about learning the terminology, learning the concepts, learning the protections, and the adjustments.

    this could be really good for him.

    I think that makes sense.

    in reply to: Gary Klein (latimes.com): Rams mailbag #52591
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    See that’s what you need the LA Times for.

    Not one of us ordinary “well-informed fan” types could have answered those questions with the same depth of insight.

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    in reply to: What are Fisher's weaknesses ? #52562
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    This probably deserves a better response.

    I would say one clear weakness is that he can tend to over-estimate certain players. Darryl Richardson for example, or Cook.

    But to me that’s balanced by things like taking 2 rookies of the year in a row, and coaching up some very solid UDFAs.

    So it’s mixed. I think mixed tilting toward the positive, but mixed.

    The problem is not a mostly positive but still somewhat mixed personnel evaluation record.

    It’s being wrong about a guy and then putting a lot of eggs in his basket. Again, like Richardson, who almost single-handedly destroyed the entire offense in early 2013.

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    Keenum Ready for 1st Opening-Day Start

    Myles Simmons

    http://www.therams.com/news-and-events/article-1/Practice-Report-98-Keenum-Ready-for-1st-Opening-Day-Start/453e9430-31ca-4222-8d48-5034f331be18

    When the 2015 season ended, quarterback Case Keenum had helped stabilize the Rams’ offense by coming in and winning three of the last four games at signal-caller. The Houston product’s performances in those four games earned him Los Angeles’ starting role to at least begin the offseason program.

    But since then, Keenum has clearly seized the opportunity in front of him. Yes, quarterback Jared Goff was taken No. 1 overall and will ascend to QB-1 in due time. But until he does, Keenum has displayed he can effectively command the offense. Because of that, he’s earned the first opening-day start of his career.

    “It’s exciting,” Keenum said. “It’s Monday Night Football. It’s a divisional opponent.

    “It’s my first my time for it to be ‘my show’ starting out, and not just taking over — like, “Oh [no], send out Case now,’” Keenum continued, laughing.

    Keenum dons a funny-guy persona when at the podium, but the reality of Keenum’s journey to Rams opening-day starter has a bit more depth.

    “We traded for Case — people forget that. But we wanted to get him because of his ability,” head coach Jeff Fisher said. “He’s done a great job this offseason, in the preseason games. … He’s ready to go.”

    Keenum has a laid-back personality, which the media gets to see with his demeanor in press conferences. According to wide receiver Tavon Austin, that’s the way he is all the time — and it makes a difference in building relationships. Keenum was voted a captain for the first time in his career.

    “Case has done a good job whenever he stepped in, from last year to now,” Austin said. “We’re not just teammates with Case — we’re definitely real brothers. And he fights for us just like we’re going to fight for him.”

    Still, being “the guy” at quarterback for an entire offseason and training camp has certainly been different for Keenum.

    “When I go talk to receivers now, it’s like, ‘Hey, this is how we should do this. This is how I want it, how do you want it?’ Instead of, ‘Hey, let me go ask somebody else and we’ll see how they want it,’” Keenum said.
    
Those are the kinds of minor factors that can make a major difference during games. But Keenum’s feel for the Rams’ offense has undoubtedly helped him take steps in his progression this year.

    “Every week, you’re seeing more and more command of the offense, which is comforting,” Fisher said. “He’s going to get up there and make the right decisions. The position itself is hard to play, but he’s going to give us a chance with checking in and out of run stuff, changing protections, getting the ball down the field, making plays, [and] extending plays with his legs.”

    “He’s one of those guys who you know what you’re getting day-in and day-out, but I think he’s progressed — gotten more comfortable with us, just like we’ve gotten more comfortable with him,” center Tim Barnes said.

    There may be no more important connection than the one between center and quarterback on the field. Barnes said he’s particularly noticed how the communication between he and Keenum has improved with the Houston product taking the vast majority of first-team reps.

    “That’s a big thing, is we’ve been able to do that the whole time,” Barnes said. “For the most part, we’ve been able to be there with each other and know what we’re thinking.”

    Of course, Keenum’s final start of 2015 came against the same team at the same venue where the Rams will begin this season. The major difference being now, the 49ers are coached by Chip Kelly.

    The Rams have been watching all kinds of film at their disposal in order to prepare, such as Cleveland’s defense from last year. Niners defensive coordinator Jim O’Neil held the same position with the Browns in 2015.

    “It’s a different team than the two games we played against them last year. A lot of the same players, but different schemes,” Keenum said. “It does make it a little bit of a challenge to go back and watch and maybe different coordinator’s defense and see — you don’t look at personnel, but you maybe look at schemes and what they’re trying to do defensively.

    “But it’s like any first game,” Keenum added. “They can throw anything at you.”

    Given the magnitude of the game — the Rams’ first contest representing Los Angeles in two decades, and Keenum’s first opening-day start — it’s fair to expect Keenum to be juiced for it. As much as quarterbacks usually like to be even-keel, Keenum knows himself and the parts of his own personality he’ll have to embrace.

    “I’m going to get excited no matter what,” Keenum said. “That’s who I am.”

    If this game goes how the rest of 2016 has so far for the QB, Keenum should be able to efficiently lead the Rams’ offense to success against their division rival.

    “I’m just coming out and doing my job, and my job is to be the quarterback of this team, to get the ball in the right people’s hands, convert on third downs, and score points,” Keenum said. “So that’s my job and I’m going to come in every day and work on doing that.”

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    Rams QB Case Keenum gearing up for first Week 1 start

    Alden Gonzalez

    http://www.espn.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/30599/rams-qb-case-keenum-gearing-up-for-first-week-1-start

    THOUSAND OAKS, Calif. — The backdrop was carried into the locker room, Case Keenum took his place in the middle of it and a mob of media members swelled around him late Thursday afternoon, four days before the Los Angeles Rams will open their season. Then came the first question …

    Case, your first NFL start. What’s it like?

    “Well … it’s my 16th NFL start, just so you know,” Keenum said. “So, I have done it before.”

    Yes, in case anybody forgot, he has. But Keenum has only ever been the guy by default, starting with the Houston Texans because Matt Schaub injured a foot and an ankle in 2013, and starting for the Rams because Nick Foles wasn’t good enough in 2015. This is the summer when Keenum actually won a job, holding off a developing No. 1 pick to do it.

    This is the summer when Keenum will finally start a regular-season opener — on Monday Night Football, against the division-rival San Francisco 49ers, in the first meaningful game back in Los Angeles.

    “It’s the first time for it to be my show starting out, and not just taking over like, ‘Oh crap, send out Case now,'” Keenum said. “It’s been something I’ve prepared for for a long time. I’m excited. I really am.”

    Keenum left Houston as the NCAA’s all-time leader in passing yards, touchdowns and completions, but a relatively small stature and a weak throwing arm left him undrafted in 2012.

    He spent that season buried on the Texans’ practice squad, then started eight games in 2013, throwing for 1,760 yards with nine touchdowns and six interceptions. Keenum spent a chunk of the next year on the Rams’ practice squad, then returned to the Texans, started the final two regular-season games, winning both. He returned to the Rams for a seventh-round pick in March 2015.

    Keenum went on to supplant Foles, the man he was brought in to back up, and returned from a concussion to start the final four games last season, a stretch in which he threw for 692 yards, completed nearly 65 percent of his passes and led the Rams to three victories.

    In the eight months that followed, the Rams have seen continued growth.

    “Every week seeing just more and more command of the offense, which is comforting,” Rams coach Jeff Fisher said of Keenum. “He’s going to get up there and make the right decision. The position itself is hard to play, but he’s going to give us a chance with checking in and out of run stuff, changing protections, getting the ball down the field, making plays, extending plays with his legs.”

    Keenum is coming off a solid preseason, one that saw him complete 75 percent of his passes without committing a single turnover.

    That’s all the Rams really need from the 28-year-old: just enough to keep opposing defenses from stacking the box against star running back Todd Gurley.

    But Keenum starting is in no way an ideal scenario for the Rams. He shoulders a 38.2 QBR that is the fifth worst among quarterbacks who have attempted at least 400 passes over the past three seasons. And the guy the Rams truly want ready, of course, is Jared Goff, the first overall pick who cost an assortment of high-round draft choices for the right to select him.

    Keenum hasn’t forgotten that.

    The line of questioning won’t let him.

    “I’m still batting a thousand,” Keenum said. “Every interview I’ve ever done, somebody has asked [about Goff]. It is what it is. I compartmentalize it. People are going to ask what they want to ask. He was the first pick of the draft. Obviously some attention there, but I’m just going to go out and do my job. My job is to be the quarterback of this team and get the ball in the right people’s hands and convert on third downs and score points.”

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    RICH HAMMOND

    http://www.ocregister.com/articles/gurley-728552-rams-game.html

    LOOKING AROUND

    The Rams haven’t been watching as much opponent game video as normal. That’s because the 49ers have a new head coach (Chip Kelly) and defensive coordinator (Jim O’Neil).

    Kelly coached in Philadelphia from 2013-15 and O’Neil was the defensive coordinator in Cleveland the past two seasons. That video is likely more beneficial from a scheme standpoint. The Rams beat Cleveland 24-6 last season and lost to Philadelphia 34-28 in 2014.

    “We’re watching a lot of stuff right now,” Fisher said. “I’d imagine they are as well. That’s part of the intrigue of the first game. People hold things back through camp and the preseason, and have a lot of things that they like that they put in the first game. Yeah, we’re looking at Cleveland’s defense and Philly’s offense. That’s what the coaches are looking for, and turn over every stone.”

    BIG STAGE

    The Rams will be playing a “Monday Night Football” game for the first time since Oct. 13, 2014, also against San Francisco (in St. Louis). They’ll hope for better results. The Rams, with Austin Davis at quarterback, lost that game 31-17 and dropped their record to 1-4. They finished the season 6-10.

    ALSO

    Rams starting right tackle Rob Havenstein, who missed almost all of training camp because of a foot injury, has returned to full participation in practice and presumably has a chance to play Monday. Reserve linebacker Bryce Hager (concussion) also has returned, but cornerback E.J. Gaines (thigh) and receivers Pharoh Cooper (shoulder) and Nelson Spruce (knee) remain completely out of practice. … The Rams released reserve offensive lineman Garrett Reynolds, who had been on injured reserve. Reynolds received an unspecified injury settlement from the team.

    in reply to: Fisher, Gurley … 9/9 … transcripts #52555
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    Note: this here is one of them articles that is basically no more than a quilt of quotes from the press conference (above). So I put it here.

    Rams running back Todd Gurley ready for opening bell this time

    RICH HAMMOND

    http://www.ocregister.com/articles/gurley-728552-rams-game.html

    THOUSAND OAKS – Todd Gurley stood on the sideline a year ago when the Rams pulled a season-opening upset of Seattle. This year, the San Francisco 49ers won’t be so fortunate.

    Gurley was in the final stages of recovery from ACL surgery last September, and even though he missed two games, Gurley finished third in the NFL with 1,106 rushing yards. On Monday night, Gurley could be poised to feast on a 49ers defensive front that has struggled both with injuries and ineffectiveness.

    “There’s no such thing as a sophomore slump with running backs,” Rams coach Jeff Fisher said after Friday’s practice at Cal Lutheran. “That just doesn’t happen. I would assume that this is going to get better and better as we get better up front, and we’re able to stay in games and get the ball in his hands.”

    By all indications, Gurley is prepared, even though there isn’t much mileage on his 2016 tires.

    Out of abundant precaution, Fisher held Gurley out of three of the Rams’ four preseason games. In the one game Gurley did play, in the second week against Kansas City, he received just four carries.

    Few could argue against Fisher’s logic. The only benefit to playing a star running back in preseason is to expose him to physical contact, but one bad tackle, or even one bad step, could end a season, particularly for a back such as Gurley who already has had one major knee surgery.

    So, Gurley worked in practice and will wait for Monday to go full speed.

    “I’m not too worried about it,” Gurley said. “I feel like my practice habits have been pretty good, as far as finishing my runs and going hard as much as possible. Once the game comes, I’ll be fine.”

    How high is the ceiling for Gurley? There’s a strong feeling, inside the organization, that Gurley could be better in 2016, with a full offseason of training and a desire to improve his pass-catching skills.

    Fisher’s denial of a “sophomore slump” isn’t universal, though. Marshawn Lynch, for instance, rushed for 1,115 yards as a rookie in 2007, then 1,036 in his second season, although Lynch had fewer carries in 2008. Matt Forte rushed for 1,238 yards in 2008, then dipped to 929 in his second season.

    It’s fair to say, though, that most of the great backs take a step forward in their second season. Adrian Peterson jumped from 1,341 yards to 1,760. LaDainian Tomlinson jumped from 1,236 yards to 1,683.

    Gurley generally shies from critiquing his own game, but did say he was motivated when he watched Denver running back C.J. Anderson in the NFL’s season-opening game against Carolina on Thursday night. Anderson rushed for 92 yards and one touchdown and had caught four passes, including one for a touchdown.

    “It inspires me,” Gurley said. “Seeing what C.J. did, it’s like, ‘Oh!’ He did that against the Super Bowl runner-up team. I’m excited to go out there and try to run the ball like he did.”

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    Some Eagles veterans have concerns about decision to dump Bradford for Wentz

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    Some Eagles veterans have concerns about decision to dump Bradford for Wentz

    Last Saturday’s surprising two-in-one decision by the Eagles to trade starting quarterback Sam Bradford to the Vikings and to make rookie Carson Wentz the new starter raises an obvious question: Will veteran players be concerned about the perception that the franchise has decided on a path that makes the Eagles less competitive in 2016?

    Appearing on Friday’s PFT Live on NBC Sports Radio, former Eagles running back Brian Westbrook addressed that issue.

    “I kind of feel for those veterans like Jason Peters and Malcolm Jenkins, because I know and I was in the situation,” Westbrook said. “I had Donovan McNabb my entire career in Philadelphia but at some point they benched Donovan McNabb when we were in Baltimore and they put in Kevin Kolb. You just wonder, ‘OK, what are we doing here?’ Because we felt right now we had one of the better quarterbacks in the league in Donovan on the bench.

    “It’s a little bit different situation with Sam Bradford because he hasn’t been one of the better quarterbacks on that same type of level as Donovan but if I’m on this football team here in Philadelphia right now and I’m a veteran I’m saying, ‘Well, hold on, timeout. We’re building for the future but that future does not necessarily include me and I have a problem with that.’ It’s good for the organization but not necessarily good for those veteran guys and so I would be a little disappointed.”

    Westbrook’s explanation led to the question of whether he knows that guys on the team feel the way Westbrook would feel under these circumstances.

    “Definitely,” Westbrook said. “There’s no doubt about it and I’ve talked to a few guys that have expressed that. A few guys have said, ‘We’re trying to win this year because I don’t know if I’m going to play next year and I’m definitely not sure if I’m going to be able to be in Philadelphia next year. So as much as we want this young guy Carson Wentz to be successful we’re concerned about winning this year. We’re concerned about winning now.’ . . .

    “I think that there’s an understanding from the fans, the coaching staff as well as the front office that, ‘Hey, we’re going to need to take some time to build this thing the right way.’ Unfortunately for some of the older players, some of the veteran players, that doesn’t necessarily mesh with what your goal is as far as winning right now.”

    Appearing earlier this week on PFT Live, Eagles executive V.P. of football operations Howie Roseman addressed the potential concerns outlined by Westbrook.

    “Just being around our players through all the whole offseason in training camp and in the preseason games they all believe in Carson Wentz, that’s clear,” Roseman said. “You get a chance to talk to him a lot during that period of time just in between drills and on the sideline. All of them can see his unique physical ability and then his work ethic and his mental makeup is off the charts so it wasn’t something where the rest of the team couldn’t see how talented this kid is. A lot of this, our message to them is that we believe in them and we believe that the teams who’ve had success with a rookie quarterback are built the same way that we’re built. So it’s an opportunity for all of them to show their leadership [and] to step up their game and we understand there are a lot of doubters outside our building but we’re really looking forward to kicking it off on Sunday.”

    Westbrook’s comments show that not all veteran players have that attitude. If Wentz succeeds quickly, their attitudes could change.

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    Rams QB Jared Goff must learn to be a backup

    Vincent Bonsignore

    http://www.dailynews.com/sports/20160909/vincent-bonsignore-rams-qb-jared-goff-must-learn-to-be-a-backup

    THOUSAND OAKS >> The starting point is nowhere near were Jared Goff originally imagined. In that respect, he’s no different than anyone else. The Rams included.

    If anyone says they would have predicted or anticipated or been OK with the first overall pick starting his NFL career at the back of the Rams quarterback line, they’re either lying or not in the loop.

    Goff was generally regarded as the most National Football League quarterback available in last April’s draft, and that wasn’t an opinion exclusive to the Rams.

    Off that distinction, he separated himself from the rest of the quarterback group and the Rams built their justification to trade six picks to the Tennessee Titans to move from the 15th pick to the first pick overall to take Goff over North Dakota State’s Carson Wentz.

    So to say there isn’t even a hint of disappointment that Goff didn’t distinguish himself as the second-string quarterback, let alone the starter, would be disingenuous.

    “My whole life, I’ve been the starter,” Goff said.

    Now he’s third string. And that takes some getting used to.

    For everyone.

    Instead of returning home to the Bay Area the starting quarterback of the Los Angeles Rams, he’ll be standing on the sideline in street clothes.

    Instead of preparing for the season opener against the San Francisco 49ers, he’s focused on a long-range plan that will eventually lift him from the raw prospect he looked like during training camp to the player everyone assumed he’d rapidly be upon the Rams taking him with the first overall pick.

    It’s about having faith in the process rather than trusting this week’s game plan.

    “And there is a process,” Goff said. “You’re just going to trust the process, and know that it’s all going to work out.”

    He said this with conviction in his voice. But more and more the conversation about Goff is based on hope rather than certainty.

    Based on how he performed during training camp and the preseason, it’s all we really have.

    Yes, the Rams preached patience with Goff going all the way back to their pre-draft evaluation of him. And in talking to the former Cal Golden Bear, Rams coach Jeff Fisher was up front that getting him on the field could be swift or a prolonged ordeal.

    “He talked about if (prolonged) was the case, there will be no rushing,” Goff said. “Whenever it’s time, it’s time. If it needs to happen early, it happens early. If it needs to happen a little bit later, it happens later. I’m just going to continue to trust him and to trust the process, and know that they have a really well thought-out plan in place, and I’m still a part of it.”

    But completion of that plan seems so much further away than anyone could have imagined.

    And that’s disappointing considering the home run swing the Rams took to acquire Goff.

    It was move made for reasons both obvious and subtle.

    No question they wanted to make a bold first step back into the Los Angeles market, and it doesn’t get much grander than trading for the first overall pick and grabbing a future face of the franchise at the most important position on the field.

    Just as importantly, in talking to Rams folks, there is a sincere belief they are inches away from taking that next step in the growth process rather than feet. Closing that gap was predicated primarily on better quarterback play.

    With one mighty swing of the bat, they felt they achieved both objectives.

    Nothing like making a bold move to stir up the second-biggest market in the country.

    And nothing like adding a dynamic new quarterback to carry the team to the next level.

    That didn’t happen, obviously.

    Goff performed through training camp and preseason like a prospect still in need of major seasoning. Without the benefit of the minor leagues for more fine tuning, he’ll toil away behind the scenes trying to get up to speed.

    To the untrained eye, Goff looks at least a year away from making a significant contribution. That goes for his level of play to his physical stature. He’s every bit the 6-foot-5 he’s listed. But 205 pounds never looked skinnier stretched over his lanky frame.

    Meanwhile, starter Case Keenum and second-year man Sean Mannion significantly out-played Goff. So when the Rams drew up their depth chart for Monday night’s season opener, there was no justification to elevate Goff over the two veterans.

    Discouraging.

    But prudent.

    And for the kid for whom so much was expected, about as humbling as you can imagine.

    His name was called first overall among 253 players drafted last April.

    But no telling when his named will be called upon.

    Nobody had that in the script.

    “I’m just going to be patient, wait until my number is called, and continue to get ready out on the field, and continue to practice as hard as I can,” Goff said. “When my number is called, be ready.”

    Goff’s NFL future pretty much depends on it.

    His ability to process and compartmentalize what can only be deemed a set back and learn and grow and emerge better for it are the keys to everything.

    And he’ll have to do it as much mentally as he does physically.

    With practice time cut down in the NFL over the years and reps at a premium for the starter and back up, third-string quarterbacks get precious few chances to get snaps during the course of the week. So Goff will have to rely on his eyes and ears watching Keenum and Mannion almost as much as his legs and arm.

    “Just continue to learn and take mental reps,” he said. “I’ve never done it before, so I am learning how to do that as well. Just trying to try to learn from what they do well, and then learn from their mistakes. Case has been in the league for a long time now. I just pick his brain and ask him as much as I can, and get to know as much as I can before my number is called, so I can be ready.”

    When that time comes is anyone’s guess.

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    Seems that everything they can go wrong, typically does.

    I find the entire pessimism/optimism thing really interesting. PA and I are old friends who go way back and have been teasing one another about the P/O thing for a long time. This is from his “game reaction thread” post following the Chiefs preseason game. The joke here is that his reaction is to the chat room discussion, not the game:

    …“as usual” ZN could barely contain his cheerleading efforts. Explaining away the dismal time of possession–ZN insisted that the Rams “wanted to get a look at the defensive guys”. When Goff fumbled he explained that this was simply a “new passing style they were trying out”, something that LOOKS like a fumble but would have gone for a touchdown if only Quick was where he was supposed to be at the time. The penalties were for “pre-season” infractions–just stuff the NFL was trying out and would not have been penalties during the regular season.

    We go back and forth like that. It’s a tradition.

    I have to admit though I am not used to seeing you be more on the pessimistic side. I think of you as more of an “honest homer” type like me (there is no hint of anything derogatory in that…there is such a thing as an honest homer, a guy who can cheerlead as PA says, but when it’s time will look the objective realities in the eye without flinching). I’m not doing a “what gives.” Just being conversational.

    Personally I am still cheerfully optimistic about game 1. I think Keenum has enough to keep them rolling, and I think Gurley is going to be a lot to handle. I think that Quinn and Donald are too much for them to handle. But yes they do have a mixed record in opening games.

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    PFF: from 32 PFF STATS TO KNOW FOR NFL WEEK 1

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-32-pff-stats-to-know-for-nfl-week-1/

    Los Angeles Rams @ San Francisco 49ers

    31. Rams DT Aaron Donald recorded the second-best pass-rushing productivity mark among defensive tackles last season; new teammate Dominique Easley was No. 1.

    If both players can keep up the same level of play in 2016, they’ll be an unstoppable force throughout the season. On Monday, they will be facing an O-line in transition, with new left guard Zane Beadles (who allowed 41 pressures last year, the fifth-most for guards), center Daniel Kilgore, and Anthony Davis (who just recently moved to right guard). It will be a tough week for the three San Francisco interior linemen to learn to play together.

    32. 49ers RB Carlos Hyde forced 0.28 missed tackles per carry last season, the best rate among NFL RBs.

    While Hyde missed much of the season due to injury, he is back now, and in Week 1 faces one of his most difficult tests of the season. While the Rams’ defensive line is mostly known for its pass-rushing, they have also been very good at not missing tackles. Last year, they averaged just 0.12 missed tackles per run play as a team, seventh-best in the league. Something will have to give this week.

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    Just read that Shaun Hill has a higher career completion %, higher ypa, higher qb rating, and a better TD/INT ratio than Bradford.

    Well they shoulda just asked a Rams fan.

    We’ve seen them both. Of the 2, if we had to choose, which one would we want.

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    49ers coach Chip Kelly has studied the Rams and then some

    http://www.dailynews.com/sports/20160908/49ers-coach-chip-kelly-has-studied-the-rams-and-then-some

    To hear him tell it, Chip Kelly and his staff have been buried in film for several weeks.

    The 49ers hired Kelly this offseason, the latest attempt by the franchise to right itself since ousting Jim Harbaugh. New head coach, new offensive scheme. Considering all those changes, one might wonder how useful it is to watch last year’s season finale against the Rams — one in which star running back Todd Gurley didn’t even appear.

    “We’ve watched everything,” Kelly said Thursday. “Everything that’s available to us film-wise, we’ve watched. So, we’ve watched every game Case has played. We’ve watched everything Jeff has done. We played him when I was in Philadelphia two years ago — we’ve watched that game. We’ve watched every game.”

    For the record, Case Keenum has played in 16 games in his career, starting all but one across three seasons. Jeff Fisher is heading into his fifth season with the Rams and his 22nd as a head coach — not to mention more than three decades working on NFL staffs.

    If Kelly has indeed studied film as thoroughly as he claimed, it’s worth considering if he’s had time to sleep and eat.

    WHO’S COACHING THE 49ERS?

    After turning Oregon into a perennial collegiate power, Kelly jumped to the NFL and led Philadelphia to back-to-back 10-win seasons. For a while, some suggested that his up-tempo offense was signaling a revolutionary moment for the league. The honeymoon didn’t last, as the Eagles canned him before the conclusion of a six-win campaign a year ago.

    Back on the West Coast, he’ll be eager to show he has what it takes to contend for championships in the pros as well.

    BY THE NUMBERS

    2 — NFC West titles for 49ers under Jim Harbaugh

    0 — NFC West titles for 49ers under other coaches, since 1997

    26-21 — Chip Kelly’s win-loss record in three NFL seasons

    22.21 — Average seconds between Eagles’ offensive plays in 2015, fastest in NFL

    8 — Games started by 49ers QB Blaine Gabbert in 2015

    63.1 — Completion percentage by Blaine Gabbert in 2015, a career high

    PLAYER TO WATCH

    In an offense that lacks any truly dangerous playmakers, Carlos Hyde may be the 49ers’ best hope for a go-to option.

    A former second-round pick in 2014, Hyde has only one triple-digit outing to his name. As a rookie, he was stuck behind Frank Gore, the franchise’s all-time rushing leader. He opened last season by rushing for 168 yards against the Vikings — but added only another 302 before a foot injury robbed him of his last nine games.

    The 6-foot, 235-pound back returned from a concussion this week, and is likely itching to show what he can do as a No. 1 tailback.

    “He’s not a guy you have to get off the field on third down,” Kelly said. “He’s great in blitz pickup. He’s also a threat to catch the ball coming out of the backfield. When you defend Carlos, you have to defend everything.”

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    * Right now the Rams really have 12 linemen. There’s the 10 on the roster, plus Battle on the practice squad, plus Reynolds on IR (the new rule is one player can come back from IR during the season).

    Arkin is a “ronin,” a young vet who has bounced around some. I like to say Boudreau makes something out of guys like that, or he has before anyway.

    2 changes.

    Arkin was released and then put on the PS.

    and then:

    ..

    So the Rams have 2 linemen on the PS (Arkin and Battle) and 1 on IR. They are not likely to pull Wms off the IR this year. If he has any chance to develop and improve it will be by going through the whole process, including working this year and then demonstrating he’s better in OTAs and camp. Battle, I think, is not likely to come off the PS. He has to go through the same process Wms is.

    Arkin, however, could (if the need arose) come off of PS and be put on the roster. He amounts to Saffold insurance.

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    Rams lineman Aaron Donald small in stature, huge in impact

    http://www.ocregister.com/articles/donald-728420-defensive-tackle.html

    IRVINE – Since the advent of the forward pass, conventional knowledge dictates a pass rush should be built from the outside. For decades, that meant the NFL’s most feared defenses were crafted around freakish defensive ends or rush linebackers, most of whom appeared predisposed to terrorize quarterbacks. Glory – and glamorous paychecks – were earned collecting gaudy sack totals. Sack artists, they were so glowingly labeled.

    Just a few feet inside, meanwhile, their counterparts at defensive tackle were often cast as oversized workmen, plugging rush gaps and forcing double teams, toiling away in relative obscurity. They were almost always paid less. Rarely were they counted on to get after the quarterback.

    On the all-time, single-season sacks list, only three defensive tackles crack the post-merger top 50. From 2003-12, the position was even more bereft of pass-rushers: Only six defensive tackles tallied double-digit sack totals in a season during that stretch, while 40 defensive ends reached that mark.

    At the outset of the 2016 season, though, that balance of power on the defensive line might finally be shifting inside. In March 2015, the Dolphins made defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh the highest-paid defensive player in the NFL with a six-year, $114.375 million deal. The Buccaneers and Bills also locked up their own interior weapons in Gerald McCoy and Marcell Dareus, respectively, signing them each to deals of $95 million or more.

    This June, the mega-deals continued, as the Eagles’ contract extension with Fletcher Cox surpassed nine figures – and included about $4 million more in guaranteed money than Suh’s deal. After years of anonymity, the interior renaissance finally is upon us.

    As it stands, five of the nine biggest NFL contracts on defense belong to defensive tackles. But still missing in that group is the most feared interior rusher in all of the NFL, who – at 25 years old, with only a $2.7 million cap hit – might very well redefine the defensive tackle position as we know it.

    “The game has changed,” says Aaron Donald, that rare talent who over the course of two seasons, 20 sacks, and an endless highlight-reel of nightmare-inducing bullrushes, has almost singlehandedly turned the Rams into a defensive force.

    It’s the final week of his third training camp with the Rams, and on the practice field in Irvine, Donald is explaining just how an undersized defensive tackle became the new prototype at a position once defined by size and brute strength.

    “It’s more of a speed game now,” he says. “There’s a lot more zone schemes, a lot more running sideways. You can be a guy who’s 285 and 6-foot-1, as long as you can hold a double-team sometimes and do your job.”

    Of course, to suggest that Donald wouldn’t succeed in a different era is to ignore everything he has demonstrated in his two seasons. His speed on the interior is unmatched. His strength is akin to that of a much larger, bulkier tackle, even after he cut his body fat percentage below 10 percent in the offseason. He easily slices through double teams.

    Quite simply, Donald is as close to unstoppable as one finds in the NFL. And as an already-pass-heavy league continues to evolve in his favor, football’s new prototype in the middle is ready to wreak havoc on NFL offenses, and – in due time – take that havoc to the bank.

    * * *

    The first time Mike Waufle sat across from Donald in his office, the Rams defensive line coach told his first-year defensive tackle something he’d never, in 14 years of coaching, considered telling another NFL rookie. But after playing and replaying Donald’s highlights from Pitt, watching him win every collegiate defensive award, obliterate his competition at the Senior Bowl, and then, run the fastest 40-yard dash for a defensive tackle at the combine since 2000 (4.68), it was clear Donald required a different approach.

    That Donald fell all the way to 13th overall, where the Rams had been waiting with their second first-round pick of the 2013 draft, was no less than a miracle to Waufle. Unlike others, he was not deterred in the slightest by Donald’s “undersized” frame. As an assistant with the Raiders and Giants, he routinely used smaller, quicker linemen on the interior. With the Giants, he once used 263-pound end Justin Tuck as a nose tackle during the team’s Super Bowl run.

    In his office, Waufle looked his rookie straight in the eye: “I’m going to say a lot of things in this room,” he told him. “However, I do not want you to listen to one word I say. Just play like you did in college.”

    Still, Donald asked Waufle to cut up highlights of Vikings Hall of Famer John Randle and other great, undersized defensive lineman such as Warren Sapp of the Bucs and La’Roi Glover of the Saints, both of whom stood 6-foot-2. Donald studied the film obsessively.

    Such obsession is part of his personality, he explains. From high school into college, he was so determined to become a pingpong virtuoso that he played for hours on end, challenging anyone willing to play – coaches, teammates, strangers. “It was non-stop,” he says. But it worked. As one episode of HBO’s “Hard Knocks” showed, Donald is an exceptional pingpong player.

    In training camp that fall, that thirst to be the best was instantly clear. The Rams offensive line couldn’t block him. During his first week, nose tackle Michael Brockers remembers sitting down to casually watch Donald’s college highlights on YouTube that first week. He ended up consuming all 14 minutes.

    By October, Donald announced his presence to the entire league. In a Week 7 win over the Seahawks, he burst through the line and body-slammed running back Marshawn Lynch in the backfield for a violent 5-yard loss. Teammates were stunned.

    “I remember thinking then this might be the best football player I’ve ever seen,” defensive end William Hayes says.

    Donald was named Rookie of the Year and followed that with a more dominant 2015 season. He tallied 11 sacks – already startling for a defensive tackle – though, he almost certainly could have had more. According to Pro Football Focus, Donald hit or hurried quarterbacks 37 times last season – 14 more than any other defensive tackle.

    In an increasingly pass-heavy league, Donald’s size – or lack thereof – has become one of his greatest assets. At 6-foot-1, he has a lower center of gravity than most defensive tackles, which allows him to get under an offensive lineman’s pads easier than the likes of Brockers, his interior counterpart, who stands five inches taller. In addition, his fast first step makes it nearly impossible for linemen to keep their footing in front of him.

    “It’s all about leverage and speed,” Waufle said. “He has a whole lot of both.”

    He also has an advantage in Waufle, whose career has been tailored to exploit such a unique skillset. Waufle learned the nuances of defensive line play from respected assistant John Teerlinck, who helped popularize the 3-technique defensive tackle with John Randle in the 1990s. Like Donald, Randle was 6-foot-1, and as Waufle enters Year 3 with his transcendent young tackle, he is using Teerlinck’s work with Randle as his guiding light. This season, Donald will move around even more on the Rams’ line. He might even rush off the edge.

    Donald insists he’s more comfortable in that role as this season begins. He’s quicker. His understanding of the scheme is more complex. His pass-rushing technique has improved. He promises he should get to the quarterback even more often in 2016.

    “He’s the best defensive player in football,” Hayes said. “That’s the reality, and I don’t think it’s even really that close. He’s just different. Different than anyone I’ve ever seen.”

    * * *

    Most of the NFL’s best defensive tackles are still towering, 300-pound behemoths. The five highest-paid players at the position stand at least 6-foot-3 and weigh at least 295 pounds.

    But with Donald, that is destined to change. The 2018 season, once his option is picked up, will be the final year of his rookie contract. Before then, the Rams will almost certainly offer Donald a contract that could make him the highest-paid defensive player in NFL history, one that could eclipse six years and $120 million.

    Such a deal would fall just short of the deal handed to Andrew Luck by the Colts this offseason – a significant investment in any non-quarterback, let alone a defensive tackle. In Donald’s case, though, he looks to be worth it.

    Until then, he will keep studying film of past undersized greats, gleaning as many details as he can.

    “When you talk about 3-techs – the John Randles, the Warren Sapps, the La’Roi Glovers – I want my name in that conversation,” Donald said. “I’ve got a lot more work to do, but that’s my mindset. I want to be great.”

    In the Rams’ own building, one of those greats has watched closely over his first two years in the NFL. A four-time All-Pro with the Saints at just 6-foot-2, 290 pounds, Glover, now the Rams’ director of player engagement, has offered his advice to Donald on occasion, one undersized defensive tackle to another.

    But as Waufle understood, Glover isn’t sure how much he can really teach Donald, either. After watching these last two dominant seasons, in fact, he wonders if Donald might already be on a level of his own – an undersized but overpowering nightmare at tackle, with the capability of changing how defenses value the interior.

    “I’m not afraid to say it,” Glover said. “He has the potential to be the best ever.”

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    off the net from RockRam

    The Goff controversy is a red herring. It distracts from reality. The Rams are not going to win or lose based on whether Keenum or Goff start. They will win or lose based on the Defense playing well and our oline blocking for Gurley. Keenum is plenty good enough to throw the football to the right guys. The issue for the Offense is going to be a) good play calling and using the skill players we have to their best ability, b) sufficient blocking and an effective running game, c) WRs and TEs that catch the balls that are thrown their way.

    The Goff thing is a media-driven sideshow. There is no way that a reasonably competent veteran QB gets beat out by a rookie QB. A rookie QB starts if a) the other QBs are not competent or they are hurt, or b) there is a strategic plan to live with the growing pains and start the rookie, ready or not.

    We have seen the issue of starting rookie QBs go both ways. They can advance the learning curve and by year 2 you have a pretty good NFL QB with a lot of upside. Or you can ruin a kid by him getting hit too much, losing too much, and him losing his confidence.

    Who is to say in any given situation is the best way to go? Either way it is little more than crystal ball gazing, a coaching philosophy, and a lot of subjective analysis.

    Fisher’s decision is that he believes he has a decent reliable competent QB in Keenum sufficient to win. He said this at the close of last year, and said it before the draft, and has continued to say it since the draft. He has also said that Keenum will start until Goff is ready; and what “ready” amounts to only Fisher and his brain trust know. At this moment, he says Goff is not ready.

    So the Goff matter is a separate issue. Is he still the guy they thought he was? Or is he not? Is he the future, or is he a disappointment? I don’t know. But what I do know after 50 years of watching football is that it is nearly impossible to know after 1 training camp, and in some ways it is impossible to know after one season what you’ve got for sure. We’ve seen one year wonders (RG3), and we’ve seen guys have a couple of good years and regress (Luck, Bradford), and we’ve seen guys get steadily better (Brady, Wilson).

    Anyway, that’s how I see it and that’s why whether Goff starts or not is not the issue for me. The issue is: can and will the Rams win now and grow into a formidable playoff team? And by no means does that start and end with Goff.

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    By the mid ’90s pipes with holes running the length were found to do just as good a job and were practically maintenance free.

    Mine have the pipes.

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    I’d guess that 3500 is maybe for demo and installation – not sure on that. Too many wood burners in the SF bay area – an inversion issue in the atmosphere. I remember reading about London in the 1800’s where coal was the main fuel source.

    More efficiently designed wood burners would help in my opinion. The efficiency of wood burners hasn’t changed much since the 70’s that I’m aware of. There are a few models that are a tad more efficient than others but nothing is great. I searched high and low about 10 years ago when I was installing the fireplace and wood burner that we still have. Maybe there’s something better now?

    My understanding is that wood stoves are now around 80-85% efficient because they are now designed to pipe the smoke and gasses back into the fire where they re-ignite. I thought it was that way since the mid-80s. There are times when I burn and you go outside and look at the chimney and there’s no smoke at all.

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    from Practice Report 9/8

    Myles Simmons

    http://www.therams.com/news-and-events/article-1/Practice-Report-98-Keenum-Ready-for-1st-Opening-Day-Start/453e9430-31ca-4222-8d48-5034f331be18

    — Aside from Keenum, running back Todd Gurley, defensive tackle Aaron Donald, linebacker Alec Ogletree, and punter Johnny Hekker have been named the Rams’ captains for 2016. Hekker is the only returning captain for the club.

    — The Rams somewhat made waves by releasing presumed starting strongside linebacker, Akeem Ayers, in the final round of cuts. Though Fisher appeared to leave the door open for Ayers’ return, the linebacker has since signed with the Colts.

    As Fisher explained on Thursday, the Rams were slated to be playing with two linebackers and five defensive backs more often than not regardless of who else was on the roster.

    “As you know, we face a lot of three wide-receiver offenses,” Fisher said. “So, it’s two linebackers and it’s five DBs or six DBs. So teams aren’t normally starting with that group, and what teams like to do to us is spread us out and get rid of the football.”

    Still, Fisher said he’s been pleased with what he’s seen from the rookies at linebacker, Josh Forrest and Cory Littleton.

    “It’s just a matter of time before they’ll see live defensive snaps,” Fisher said.

    — For a pair of minor roster moves, the Rams waived linebacker Nic Grigsby and signed cornerback Steve Williams. Williams is a former fifth-round pick of the Chargers who made two interceptions and two forced fumbles for San Diego last year. The cornerback was waived on Sunday.

    L.A. also released running back Terrance Magee from its practice squad and signed offensive lineman David Arkin to the group.

    — For the first injury report of the 2016 season, linebacker Bryce Hager (concussion) and right tackle Rob Havenstein (foot) both participated in practice on a limited basis. Cornerback E.J. Gaines (thigh), wide receiver Pharoh Cooper (shoulder), and wide receiver Nelson Spruce (knee) all did not participate in the session.

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    They NEED this game and yet–I can see them losing.

    But I will remain the optimist for week #1.

    I honestly believe that for you, that WAS being optimistic.

    in reply to: What are Fisher's weaknesses ? #52460
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    But then there’s things like dum-penalties
    that just keep popping up year after year. He doesn’t seem to know
    how to correct that.

    There’s no correlation between penalties and winning. Aggressive teams like Seattle are just penalized a lot.

    Did you notice this August in the preseason games that the Rams offense, however, was not getting false starts, illegal formation, and/or holding calls?

    This summer it was pretty much all special teams penalties plus defensive encroachment.

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