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    Rams land Ndamukong Suh, and the rest of the NFL has a nightmare on its hands

    VINCENT BONSIGNORE

    link: https://www.ocregister.com/2018/03/26/bonsignore-rams-land-ndamukong-suh-and-the-rest-of-the-nfl-has-a-nightmare-on-its-hands/

    Now this is just getting ridiculous.

    First the Rams pounced on opportunity at the start free agency to assemble the best cover corner due in the NFL by trading for All-Pro cornerbacks Marcus Peters and Aqib Talib.

    And now they’ve one upped themselves on Monday by adding Ndamukong Suh, the dominating veteran defensive lineman, to play alongside Aaron Donald and form the best defensive line one-two punch in the NFL.

    What’s an opposing offense to do?

    With Peters and Talib suffocating wide receivers on the outside and Donald and Suh dominating upfront is rush pressure and run defense, life just got a whole lot tougher for the rest of the NFL.

    And the Rams present and near future is looking decidedly bright.

    If you ever wondered how powerful the lure of Los Angeles would be for the Rams, let’s just say it’s already paying off. Pair it with a winning environment and a respected leader in Sean McVay, and it’s downright lethal.

    Talib had a chance to go to the Bay Area after the Broncos worked out a trade with the 49ers, but nixed that idea in favor of Los Angeles and the chance to reunite with defensive coordinator Wade Phillips.

    Peters was ecstatic to land in Los Angeles, a short flight from his native Oakland, to play in a city and state he is comfortable in.

    Now Suh, the biggest free agent prize remaining on the market, picked the Rams and Southern California over multiple suitors.

    And let’s not forget the $2.6 billion state-of-the-art stadium being built in Inglewood.

    These are attributes the Rams can sell players on, and as we’ve seen over the last three weeks, they make a difference. And they’re about to unleash a ferocious defense on the rest of the NFL as a result.

    It all seemed like a preposterous dream when Suh officially hit the open market after the Miami Dolphins released him in a cost-cutting move.

    The 31-year-old five-time Pro Bowler would certainly have serious suitors, and therefore price himself out of the Rams range. They had money under the cap, but pressing linebacker needs on the edge and inside after trading both Robert Quinn and Alec Ogletree. Meanwhile, Donald is due a hefty new contract and Todd Gurley and Jared Goff aren’t far behind.

    Sure, the Rams were intrigued by the possibility of adding Suh. But the harsh realities of the NFL salary system, and trying to find enough room under the cap to accommodate all their young stars, made it nothing more than a pipe dream.

    Or so everyone thought.

    Then Suh began making his way around the league in search of a new home, stopping first in New Orleans and Tennessee for face-to-face visits, and a surprising narrative began unfolding. Suh, it seemed, wasn’t so much focused on scoring another extravagant pay day as he was locating a landing spot that would help enhance his legacy. That meant a setup conducive to winning, and an environment in which he could potentially see himself spending the remainder of his career.

    After already pocketing $60 million from a historic Dolphins contract, the sense was Suh was less about the money and more about the chance to win a Super Bowl ring.

    That was right in the Rams’ wheelhouse, poised as they are as an up-and-coming NFL power with Goff, Gurley, Donald and Peters as their foundation, and offering the positive culture created by 31-year-old head coach Sean McVay and a conscientious locker room. They also provided a desirable location not too far from his hometown of Portland, Ore.

    And with enough money under the cap this year — and close to $100 million in space projected for 2019 — the Rams were perfectly positioned to creatively satisfy Suh’s monetary needs without sabotaging future efforts to retain their young stars.

    Suh, obviously intrigued, visited with the Rams all day Tuesday at their Thousand Oaks headquarters. The original plan had Suh heading up north immediately afterward to meet with the Raiders in Oakland. But by Wednesday morning, Suh cancelled the Raiders trip in order to process everything the Rams had to offer, and consider how it stacked up with the Titans and Saints pitches.

    The Rams, now all in, anxiously awaited word.

    On Monday, Suh made it official by picking the Rams over the Saints and Titans.

    The Rams had their man. Also Monday – league sources say Rams done due diligence in Odell Beckham Jr. in a possible trade.

    And the rest of the NFL had a new nightmare on their hands.

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    Rams make yet another offseason splash, add Ndamukong Suh to loaded roster

    Frank Schwab

    link: https://sports.yahoo.com/rams-make-yet-another-offseason-splash-add-ndamukong-suh-loaded-roster-222319812.html

    The Los Angeles Rams aren’t messing around in 2018.

    The Rams could have decided to comfortably ride the wave of a surprising 2017 NFC West title into 2018, but they’re clearly trying to make a run at a Super Bowl this season. The Rams landed one of the best free agents to change teams this offseason when they signed defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh, one of their many high-profile moves since last season ended. Suh was free after he was cut by the Miami Dolphins, and the Rams beat out other teams to land him. The Rams announced Monday evening that Suh had agreed to terms. Suh’s deal was one year for $14 million according to ESPN’s Adam Schefter.

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    The Rams are taking advantage of the biggest edge any NFL team can have, which is having a good starting quarterback on a rookie deal. Jared Goff counts just $7.6 million against the salary cap this season, a fraction of what many top quarterbacks cost. The Rams can invest the extra cap space into players like Suh, and also cornerbacks Marcus Peters and Aqib Talib, two other big-time offseason additions. Having Suh on a one-year deal allows the Rams to continue to have cap flexibility in the future. Suh also “took less” to go to Los Angeles according to Schefter, a sign that he believes they’re ready to push for a Super Bowl.

    It’s possible the Rams now have the best defensive tackle duo in NFL history. Perhaps Joe Greene and L.C. Greenwood of the 1970s Pittsburgh Steelers or a couple other tandems would argue, but at very least Donald and Suh are in the conversation. Donald is the reigning NFL defensive player of the year. Suh is a three-time first-team All-Pro. They’re going to be impossible to block.

    Suh has been a force in the middle since the Detroit Lions made him the second pick of the 2010 NFL draft. He is great against the run and able to get a pass rush up the middle. He should be even better in Los Angeles. In Detroit and Miami he was the focus of opponents’ blocking schemes on the interior. That won’t be the case playing next to Donald. Both great tackles will benefit from the presence of the other.

    The Rams surprised everyone last season when they went 11-5. Their offseason has been eye-opening as well.

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    from Barnwell’s NFL free-agency and trade grades: Every big 2018 move

    http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/22923804/ndamukong-suh-reaches-deal-los-angeles-rams

    Monday, March 26

    DT Ndamukong Suh, Rams

    Grade: B+

    In the end, the market really wasn’t there for Suh to come away with the sort of massive, multi-year offer he would have likely received had the Dolphins cut him at the start of free agency. Suh reportedly turned down larger offers elsewhere, and Josh Norman stands as an example of a player who became available late in the process and was still able to pick up a market-resetting contract at his position, but there wasn’t really a great fit out there for the 31-year-old Nebraska product.

    Instead, Suh will just go to Los Angeles to form what surely must be the most terrifying pair of interior disruptors on one defensive line in recent memory. There were concerns about L.A.’s pass rush after the Rams traded away Robert Quinn, but Suh and Aaron Donald should be downright unblockable against the weak underbelly of NFL pass protectors, the league’s interior linemen. They’ve already sacked Russell Wilson four times and the season hasn’t even started yet.

    Are there reasons to think that the pairing might not play out as well as the name value sounds? Three, I think. One is that Suh is genuinely coming off of his worst season since 2011, when he was suspended for two games — the only two he’s missed in his professional career. Suh has been able to stay remarkably healthy for an interior lineman, but he’s also played a ton of snaps by the age of 30. Since entering the league in 2010, he’s played 6,773 defensive snaps, more than any other defensive lineman in football. Just three linemen — Suh, Calais Campbell and Cameron Jordan — have topped 6,000 snaps over that span.

    As a result, it has to at least be a little worrisome that Suh’s pass-rushing numbers dropped during each of his seasons in Miami:

    YEAR TEAM SACKS HITS
    2010 Lions 10 17
    2011 Lions 4 9
    2012 Lions 8 32
    2013 Lions 5.5 20
    2014 Lions 8.5 20
    2015 Dolphins 6 20
    2016 Dolphins 5 17
    2017 Dolphins 4.5 12
    The other issue is that teams haven’t really been able to turn two dominant interior defenders into productive pass-rushers at the same time. According to Pro Football Reference, no team has had two defensive tackles top 10 or more sacks in a season over the last 25 years. If we lower the cutoff to eight sacks, nobody has pulled that trick off since 1999. The Rams have the unquestioned top trio of defensive tackles in the game with Donald, Suh and Michael Brockers, but they’re simultaneously about as thin on the edge as anyone in football. The guys on the inside should guarantee Matt Longacre and company one-on-one matchups against tackles on virtually every snap, but the Rams would be better off if Suh was a similarly-productive 265-pound edge-rusher given the current construction of their roster.

    The third concern is the least meaningful of the bunch to me, but also the most difficult to forecast. The Rams are taking risks this offseason in adding clearly-talented players who other teams were willing to cast off at distressed prices, including Suh, Aqib Talib and Marcus Peters. The argument, naturally, is that the Rams have a far more settled locker room and coaching situation with Sean McVay and Wade Phillips in charge.

    Does that make sense? Sure, but things don’t always play out that way. This time last year, many folks were raving about the work Jack Del Rio had done in rebuilding the Raiders. The hottest young coach in football was Adam Gase, who had pushed the Dolphins into the playoffs in his first season in charge. One year later, Del Rio is out of a job and Gase has had to dump key contributors and rebuild his coaching staff in an attempt to fix his team’s culture.

    The Rams are making wholesale changes to their defense and their locker room, and while Phillips is likely the best defensive coordinator in football, we’ll only know how that goes once those guys actually get onto the field and play alongside one another. I can’t fault the Rams for being aggressive, but aggression inherently involves risk. Maybe the Rams don’t get enough pressure off the edge to keep quarterbacks from getting outside the pocket. Perhaps Suh is toast. It’s difficult to imagine L.A. getting as much from guys like Donald and Todd Gurley as they did in 2017, if only because they were about as productive as an interior lineman and a running back can be in any given season in the modern NFL.

    With that being said, though, Suh is a risk worth taking. The Rams still need to sign Donald to the stratospheric extension the reigning Defensive Player of the Year deserves, but bringing in Suh on a one-year, $14 million deal shouldn’t preclude Los Angeles from making that move. As former Giants general manager George Young put it with his Planet Theory, there are only so many big men with the athleticism to make a difference up front in the NFL on Earth, and when you get the chance to add one, you take it. While there are meaningful concerns about Suh, this is an opportunity the Rams could not — and should not — have passed up.

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    Five Things to Know about Rams DT Ndamukong Suh

    Kristen Lago

    http://www.therams.com/news-and-events/article-1/Five-Things-to-Know-about-Rams-DT-Ndamukong-Suh/2ef62cce-d589-4a8a-b6d6-be92d1f76016

    The Rams have added yet another dynamic playmaker to their defense in defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh. The five-time Pro Bowler and three-time All Pro will join 2017 AP Defensive Player of the Year, Aaron Donald, as a core member of the Rams defensive front next season.

    Here are five things to know about the newest Ram:

    1) He is a first-generation American

    Suh was born and raised in Portland, Oregon but he is the first of his family to be born in the United States. His father, Michael, is from Cameroon and played semi-professional soccer in Germany, while his mother, Bernadette, was born in Jamaica.

    He was named after his paternal great-grandfather. In the Ngemba language of Cameroon, Ndamukong means “House of Spears.” Suh has visited both Cameroon and Jamaica and was even named an ambassador in Ntankah — the town where his dad grew up.

    2) Suh is friends with billionaire investor Warren Buffett

    In his spare time, Suh seeks business advice from former athletes like Roger Staubach or Magic Johnson and has been very vocal about his desire to pursue a business career post-football.

    As such, the defensive tackle has formed a few unlikely friendships with business moguls — like billionaire investor Warren Buffett. The pair first became acquainted at a meeting in Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway office in Omaha, Nebraska.

    The self-made billionaire and Suh both attended the University of Nebraska and as Buffett told the Sun Sentinel, “We hit it off right away.” Since that first meeting, Suh has shadowed Buffett multiple times and the two remain in close contact.

    3) He has appeared on several reality TV shows

    Suh is no stranger to the small screen.

    In total, he has appeared on three different reality TV shows — as a contestant on the Fox celebrity dating show “The Choice,” plus as a participant in both the ABC celebrity diving show “Splash” and an episode of the Discovery Channel’s “American Muscle.”

    4) Suh has donated over $2 Million to his alma mater

    On April 17, 2010, at the annual Husker Spring Game, Suh announced a $2.6 million donation to the University of Nebraska. Two million dollars would go to Nebraska Athletics, while the remaining $600,000 created an endowed scholarship for the UNL College of Engineering.

    His gift was the largest, single charitable contribution to the University by any former player and occurred several weeks before Suh was selected as the second overall pick in the 2010 NFL Draft.

    5) He was the first collegiate defensive player to win the AP Player of the Year

    Suh’s college career was one for the record books. Through four years at the University of Nebraska, the defensive tackle led the Huskers to a Big 12 Championship and their first ever shutout win in the 2009 Holiday Bowl.

    In his senior season, Suh earned unanimous first-team All-Big 12 honors and the Big-12 Defensive Player of the Year Award. He was also named a finalist for the Heisman Trophy, took home the Lombardi Trophy — for the top collegiate lineman or linebacker — and was the first ever defensive player to receive the AP Player of the Year Award.

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    Alden Gonzalez@Alden_Gonzalez
    Looking ahead here, I wonder if signing Ndamukong Suh puts more pressure on the Rams to get a deal done with Aaron Donald this offseason. Donald might be happy to have Suh join him, but he probably wouldn’t be thrilled with another player at the same position making twice as much (Donald will make less than $7M this season, and Suh, per Adam Schefter, will make $14M). Rams could face another long holdout from Donald if they don’t step up.

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    It is more than I would pay. But, at least it is only for one year. I am just not sure Suh is a good fit for the Rams.

    They will get a comp pick next year though.

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    Chris Trapasso@ChrisTrapasso
    The #Rams now have seven former first-round picks on their defense

    Jason La Canfora@JasonLaCanfora
    The Rams have become the rare fantasy football defensive squad. If they can coral all of these personalities they’ll be dominant

    Chris Mortensen@mortreport
    Rams opposing offensive coordinators and quarterbacks in 2018 just got their hearts rate up.

    Ian Rapoport@RapSheet
    Among the things Ndamukong Suh liked about the #Rams: Fewer double teams with a loaded defense… and owner Stan Kroenke. Suh admires his business acumen, similar to how he viewed Stephen Ross.

    For the #Rams and Ndamukong Suh, the deal is the same one they offered him a week ago. \

    Doug Farrar@BR_DougFarrar
    Good luck, NFC West offensive lines.

    Gregg Rosenthal@greggrosenthal
    In 14 months, Rams have turned from perhaps NFL’s biggest afterthought to the most compelling team in league. SHOWTIME

    We have great stuff coming on Tuesday morning’s pod from Les Snead and @KaraHenderson (who killed it) on the verrryy L.A. recruitment of Suh.

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    Vincent Bonsignore@DailyNewsVinny
    This signing has no affect on getting Donald signed long term.

    The #Rams are creating a nightmare for #NFL offenses after adding Ndamukong Suh

    Alden Gonzalez@Alden_Gonzalez

    As Schefter reported, the Rams have signed DT Ndamukong Suh to a 1-year, $14M contract. He joins Aaron Donald, forming one of the greatest pairings of interior linemen throughout NFL history. With Talib and Peters behind them. Rams will be almost impossible to throw against.

    The Rams’ defensive line would be flat-out scary if Ndamukong Suh joined it. Check out this nugget from ESPN Stats & Info: While lined up as a tackle pre-snap, Suh and Aaron Donald have combined for 42 sacks over the last four seasons. The most by two teammates right now? 38, by Donald and the Rams’ other down lineman, Michael Brockers.

    Rich Hammond@Rich_Hammond
    And away we go…

    Ryan Kartje@Ryan_Kartje
    Ndamukong Suh has been a polarizing player for the majority of his career. Curious to see how L.A. takes to him this year. He’s not exactly known for his love of media attention.

    He’ll team up with Aaron Donald to create one of the strongest interior defensive pairs in NFL history. What a world.

    Ben Volin@BenVolin
    I’m told Ndomukong Suh had dinner with Rams owner Stan Kroenke on Friday night. Suh’s top motivation for finding a new home: “All he wants is not to be double teamed.” He should get his wish playing next to Aaron Donald

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    We probably lose a comp pick in 2019. But gain it back for the year 2020 when Suh signs with another club

    No. He was cut. So he doesn’t alter comp picks.

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    Dan Graziano, ESPN Staff Writer

    http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0770005558865436078-4

    I’d be surprised if the Giants made an Odell Beckham trade this offseason, and here’s why: They know the good stuff about him better than any acquiring team would. Beckham has always been, since he was drafted, a player who’s impressed coaches and teammates with the way he works in the building. He’s a good, hard-working practice player and a strong contributor in meetings. He’s an exceptional player, and in the confines of the Giants’ building, he’s been what they’ve asked him to be. The issues involving on-field temper tantrums, punching walls, etc., along with stuff like the recent video and the chance that they may never be able to sign him to the contract he wants could absolutely lead them to trade him at some point. But right now, the Giants are the only team that knows the inside-the-building good stuff about Beckham, which leads me to believe they’re not likely to get enough in return to justify moving a 25-year-old player who’s making $8.5 million this year and is, when healthy, the best receiver in the league.

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    Aaron Donald pass-rushes his way to the top game grade from an interior defender in 2017

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-aaron-donald-pass-rushes-his-way-to-the-top-game-grade-from-an-interior-defender-in-2017

    Los Angeles Rams interior defender Aaron Donald, PFF’s No. 1 ranked overall player this past season, earned a career-high and nearly perfect 99.7 overall season grade in 2017. Of course, Donald’s high-end consistency wasn’t without significant peaks, as he earned three of the top-five single-game grades by an interior defender in 2017, the best of which came against the Atlanta Falcons in the wild-card round of the playoffs.

    Donald, despite in a losing effort, rose to the occasion in his first career playoff game. He recorded 11 total pressures and three defensive stops en route to a 98.6 overall single-game grade.

    Aaron Donald

    Donald dominated the Falcons’ interior offensive line from the start, as he totaled 10 of his 11 pressures through the first 30 minutes of play, tying Houston Texans’ J.J. Watt for the most first half pressures recorded in a single game in the PFF era (2006-2017). Adding to his feat, Donald needed just 20 pass-rush snaps to pick up 10 total pressures, while Watt did so on 30 pass-rush snaps in 2014.

    Keeping Atlanta from making proper adjustments, Rams defensive coordinator Wade Phillips moved Donald up and down the line of scrimmage across multiple positions, allowing his best pass-rusher to attack different matchups. Donald recorded four pressures on 11 pass-rush snaps left of center and another seven on 23 pass-rush snaps right of center. Donald also took snaps inside the guards, opposite of the tackles and off the edge.

    Donald’s expansive arsenal of pass-rush moves was also on full display, beating his opposition with ranges of speed, technique and physicality. He recorded five outside pressures, four inside pressures and two bullrush pressures throughout the contest.

    As expected, Donald finished the game with the highest pass-rush grade (99.5) by an interior defender in 2017 with his efforts. Though overshadowed by his pass-rushing prowess, he also earned an 87.1 run-defense grade in the contest, his second-best mark of the season.

    RUNNERS UP

    No. 2 Kenny Clark vs. MIN (Week 6) – 95.1 overall grade

    No. 3 Aaron Donald vs. SEA (Week 15) – 94.9 overall grade

    No. 4 Geno Atkins vs. HST (Week 2) – 94.8 overall grade

    T-No. 5 Gerald McCoy vs. MIA (Week 11) – 94.6 overall grade

    T-No. 5 Aaron Donald vs. SEA (Week 5) – 94.6 overall grade

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    Gonzalez says:

    In the salary cap world, 20 months is an eternity.That’s the amount of time that has passed since the NFL’s highest paid defensive player, Denver Broncos outside linebacker Von Miller, signed on the dotted line. It’s enough time for Miller’s contract to almost be considered obsolete as a potential comparison for Los Angeles Rams defensive tackle Aaron Donald, the man who is eventually expected to surpass Miller with his own extension.

    When it comes to Donald, the most relevant question isn’t necessarily how his contract should compare to Miller’s; it’s how many quarterbacks should rank ahead of him.

    IMO Gonzalez is approaching this right. It’s not hard to see that the way 2nd contracts work in the market, Donald will be getting more than Miller, but less than the most recent highest 2nd contracts for qbs. So that’s between 19 M (way too low) and 28 M (it will be a long time before a non-qb gets a deal higher than the most recent qb signings). One difference I have with Gonzalez is that he doesn’t put it in terms of 2nd contracts. But IMO you have to do that, because 3rd and 4th contracts are much more variable. They depend a lot more on things like the health of the player and other circumstances. 2nd contracts for starting qbs set the market, because you are paying for what will be assumed to be the player’s premium years. After that, on 3rd and 4th contracts, it gets much more case by case depending on the player and his circumstances.

    Anyway, this approach pretty much does away with the whole thing about “qb money.” The much more realistic view is that a non-qb won’t get more than THE MOST RECENT starting qbs who signed 2nd contracts. As was said, this year, that’s 28 M.

    That’s better than the more amorphous idea that a non-qb can’t sign for “qb money.” You don’t want to put it that way because it suggests that a qb contract amount from 3 years ago sets the market for non-qbs. That’s just not how it works.(In fact, both Suh and Von Miller have already busted that idea. They signed for more than some qbs were getting at the time. But they DIDN’T sign for more than the most recent qb 2nd contracts).

    It’s always the most recent qb signings involving 2nd contracts.

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    Ian Rapoport@RapSheet
    From @GMFB, on the Ndamukong Suh free agency: The #Rams appear to be the front-runner for his services. Suh hasn’t ruled the #Titans or #Saints out, and those close to him say he’s still open-minded. But Los Angeles has emerged as the team to beat in his protracted saga.

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    Being highest paid on defense might not be enough for Aaron Donald

    Aaron Donald is sure to be the highest-paid defender in the league, but how will his salary compare to quarterbacks?

    Alden Gonzalez

    http://www.espn.com/blog/los-angeles-rams/post/_/id/38136/being-highest-paid-on-defense-might-not-be-enough-for-aaron-donald

    LOS ANGELES — In the salary cap world, 20 months is an eternity.

    The NFL’s Highest Paid

    The top 20 players ranked by their average salary in 2018:

    PLAYER AVERAGE SALARY

    QB Kirk Cousins: $28M
    QB Jimmy Garoppolo: $27.5M
    QB Matthew Stafford: $27M
    QB Derek Carr: $25.01M
    QB Drew Brees: $25M
    QB Andrew Luck: $24.59M
    QB Alex Smith: $23.5M
    QB Joe Flacco: $22.13M
    QB Aaron Rodgers: $22M
    QB Russell Wilson: $21.9M
    QB Ben Roethlisberger: $21.85M
    QB Eli Manning: $21M
    QB Philip Rivers: $20.81M
    QB Cam Newton: $20.76M
    QB Matt Ryan: $20.75M
    QB Tom Brady: $20.5M
    QB Sam Bradford: $20M
    QB Ryan Tannehill: $19.25M
    LB Von Miller $19.08M
    QB Case Keenum: $18M
    Source: OverTheCap.com

    That’s the amount of time that has passed since the NFL’s highest paid defensive player, Denver Broncos outside linebacker Von Miller, signed on the dotted line. It’s enough time for Miller’s contract to almost be considered obsolete as a potential comparison for Los Angeles Rams defensive tackle Aaron Donald, the man who is eventually expected to surpass Miller with his own extension.

    Since Miller’s deal, the salary cap has jumped from $155.27 million to $167 million to $177.2 million. When he signed it, Miller was the NFL’s 14th-highest-paid player. Now, heading into the 2018 season, he ranks 19th with regards to average salary.

    This offseason alone, we have seen five quarterbacks — Kirk Cousins, Jimmy Garoppolo, Drew Brees, Alex Smith and Sam Bradford — sign contracts worth more than Miller’s. Two others — Matt Ryan and Aaron Rodgers — will soon agree to deals that reset the market altogether.

    When it comes to Donald, the most relevant question isn’t necessarily how his contract should compare to Miller’s; it’s how many quarterbacks should rank ahead of him.

    The average per year (APY) of the 18 quarterbacks ahead of Miller currently sits between $28 million and $19.25 million for 2018. If Donald signs his extension this offseason — he’s heading into the final year of his rookie contract, but the Rams and Donald’s agents have set a timeline for negotiations — his average salary will sit somewhere between that.

    But where, exactly?

    For comparison’s sake, we identified the last three highest-paid defensive players and looked at how many offensive players were still earning more once they signed. Information was provided by Jason Fitzgerald of OverTheCap.com.

    LB Von Miller

    Deal: 6 years, $19.08M APY; $70M guaranteed

    Signed: July 15, 2016

    Richer players: 13. QB Andrew Luck ($24.59M), QB Aaron Rodgers ($22.2M), QB Joe Flacco ($22.1M), QB Russell Wilson ($21.9M), QB Ben Roethlisberger ($21.85M), QB Eli Manning ($21M), QB Philip Rivers ($20.81M), QB Cam Newton ($20.76M), Matt Ryan ($20.75M), Tom Brady ($20.5M), Drew Brees ($20M), Kirk Cousins ($19.95M), Ryan Tannehill ($19.25M).

    DT Ndamukong Suh

    Deal: 6 years, $19.06M APY; $59.96M guaranteed.

    Signed: March 11, 2015

    Richer players: 5. Rodgers ($22.2M), Ryan ($20.75M), Flacco ($20.1M), Brees ($20M), QB Peyton Manning ($19.2M).

    DE J.J. Watt

    Deal: 6 years, $16.67M APY; $51.88M guaranteed.

    Signed: Sept. 2, 2014

    Richer players: 9. Rodgers ($22.2M), Ryan $20.75M), Flacco ($20.1M), Brees ($20M), Peyton Manning ($19.2M), QB Colin Kaepernick ($19M), QB Jay Cutler ($18.1M), QB Tony Romo ($18M), QB Matthew Stafford ($17.67M).

    Suh was the NFL’s sixth-highest-paid player when he signed his contract with the Miami Dolphins, but there’s a caveat. Roethlisberger, Newton, Wilson, Rivers and Eli Manning all signed richer extensions within six months of his deal. Most of them — perhaps all of them — were anticipated during that time.

    If you consider those five, Suh’s APY ranked 11th. If you take that into account, the last three highest-paid defensive players ranked, on average, 12th in APY when they signed their contracts. If Donald were to rank 12th today, he’d be averaging between $21 million and $21.85 million on a new extension. It’s an inexact science, of course. And obviously guaranteed money is a lot more significant than average salary in these instances.

    Donald — reigning Defensive Player of the Year and three-time first-team All-Pro at age 26 — is the game’s best at his position by a wide margin. Maybe he gets more than the above projection. Maybe he gets less, considering he’s set to cost less than $7 million toward this year’s salary cap.

    But this much seems clear: Being the game’s highest paid defensive player is no longer enough.

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    I ‘do’ give the writers a lot of credit for the first two-and-half or three seasons though. They wrote some good stuff for a while. Its hard to keep writing good stuff season after season.

    And of course, their drafts fell apart.

    Plus, The Thumb.

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    I am waiting for everybody to turn into a Cylon.

    Good one.

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    Rams encouraged after New York Jets rescind offer to Ndamukong Suh

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    http://www.latimes.com/sports/rams/la-sp-rams-suh-20180325-story.html

    The math in the Ndamukong Suh sweepstakes took a turn in the Rams’ favor Sunday, and coach Sean McVay sounded encouraged by the development.

    New York Jets owner Christopher Johnson told reporters at the NFL owners meetings that his team had rescinded its offer to Suh, a five-time Pro Bowl defensive tackle.

    “That can’t be anything but good news for us,” McVay said after a reception for attendees.

    Said Rams general manager Les Snead: “Time will tell, right? I’m sure in all these situations there’s multiple teams usually involved and you never really know when the other teams pull out or not. So we’ll wait and see.”

    Suh, released two weeks ago by the Miami Dolphins, has visited the Rams, Tennessee Titans and New Orleans Saints. The Portland, Ore., native also has reportedly spoken with the Seattle Seahawks.

    Suh visited the Rams last Tuesday, and then canceled a scheduled visit with the Oakland Raiders before the Jets entered the bidding with what was reportedly the largest offer.

    Suh’s visit with the Rams went “really well,” McVay said.

    “We came away impressed with just the human being,” he said. “He’s got a good perspective.

    “We’re hopeful that a lot of the things he said he’s looking for is kind of what our organization can provide. And hopefully we’ll figure out soon if he’s going to be a Ram or not.”

    Suh, an eight-year veteran with 51½ sacks, would add an intimidating element to a Rams front that includes NFL defensive player of the year Aaron Donald and Michael Brockers.

    During Suh’s visit, the Rams focused on how he would fit in defensive coordinator Wade Phillips’ 3-4 scheme.

    “We wanted to really get him in and show him who we were,” Snead said, adding, “and how we were going to play him, and how he’s going to fit in the 3-4 next to Brock and Aaron Donald.”

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    I want it known,
    that a reliable source,
    revealed to me, that Suh has decided to forego the NFL,
    and instead devote his life to making the perfect salad.

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    There’s massive technical issues involved in moving from being s 3-tech in a 4 DL front, to salad making.

    Just sayin.

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    March for Our Lives could be the biggest single-day protest in D.C.’s history

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/03/24/march-our-lives-could-become-biggest-single-day-protest-d-c-nations-history/455675002/

    March for Our Lives organizers estimate 800,000 protesters attended the gun-control demonstration in Washington, D.C., on Saturday.

    If they’re correct, the event would be the largest single-day protest in the history of the nation’s capital. The total is bigger than the inaugural Women’s March, which brought 500,000 to D.C., according to the Washington Post.

    The number doesn’t include large rallies in cities such as Boston, Houston, Minneapolis and Parkland, Fla., the site of the Valentine’s Day attack at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School that left 17 people dead.

    On Sunday, another crowd estimate came in much smaller for the D.C. march. About 200,000 people attended the rally, according to Digital Design & Imaging Service Inc., a Virginia-based company that calculates crowd size.

    There have been no official police estimates.

    Organizers of the March for Our Lives rally had hoped to exceed the half million protesters mark. The Women’s March, which took place the day after Trump’s inauguration, is considered the biggest one-day protest in recorded history, according to the Washington Post.

    Other large protests in D.C. history include the 500,000 to 600,000 people who demonstrated against the Vietnam War in D.C. in 1969. The March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom on Aug. 28, 1963, drew about 250,000 people to D.C. where Martin Luther King Jr. delivered his famous “I have a dream” speech. And the Million Man March in 1995 garnered estimates of between 450,000 to 1.1 million people, according to the Encyclopedia Brittanica.

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    This is some crazy shit

    Indeed.

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    an Rapaport

    @RealRapIan

    Fake account.

    It ain’t real.

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    Or…”The line with a great player, a good player and a guy that doesnt fit the scheme”

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    Same with the secondary, and the whole defense.

    The On Paper Gang.

    Or The March Squad. (Soon to become the April Squad).

    Or The Unsigned Heroes.

    Or The Presumably Good Threesome.

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    in reply to: March For Our Lives #84484
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    Several thousand demonstrators are ready to ‘March For Our Lives’ down Congress St. in Portland.

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