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December 23, 2014 at 12:14 am #14546
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The Rams have no true leaders.
They have no take charge leaders on the team that truly command respect, that the team follows.
When you’re “so called” leader(s) is in the middle of scrums, as a combatant rather than an officer, you gotta problem.
Too many times we have seen this team lose their composure and focus on the task. They become more concerned with showing how tough they are outside the lines, or after the whistle.
There is absolutely no question in my mind, that this team needs real veteran leaders.
Too many cocky young hotheads that want to celebrate a 25yd play. WTF is that when you’re getting your arse whipped??
This team is just poorly coached, and poorly constructed.
December 23, 2014 at 12:15 am #14547znModeratorThe Rams have no true leaders.
They have no take charge leaders on the team that truly command respect, that the team follows.
When you’re “so called” leader(s) is in the middle of scrums, as a combatant rather than an officer, you gotta problem.
Too many times we have seen this team lose their composure and focus on the task. They become more concerned with showing how tough they are outside the lines, or after the whistle.
There is absolutely no question in my mind, that this team needs real veteran leaders.
Too many cocky young hotheads that want to celebrate a 25yd play. WTF is that when you’re getting your arse whipped??
This team is just poorly coached, and poorly constructed.
I;ve thought that too.
December 23, 2014 at 9:19 am #14551wvParticipant——————————————
Laram– The Giants began the game running simple dive plays right at Aaron Donald.
They tried to establish the run by muscling him up and running right at him.
The Giants had over 130yds rushing, most of it on dive plays.
Like dz and I were discussing last week, its a copycat league so expect to see more of that.
– Why was Barron in two high safety on the OBJ 80yd TD?
99% of the time the Rams have used Barron in the box, but Williams decides to get cute.
So what do the Giants do to counter? They run a combo route to cause confusion and create a mismatch. If you re-watch the play watch the routes and what Tru and Joyner do. The route caused the confusion and left Barron alone in deep coverage.
Greg Williams outsmarted himself on that alignment, and a smart OC took advantage.
– Simple stunts beat this o-line like a drum on both sides of the line. They ran a game on the right side that both Barks and DJ f-uped.
Of course we saw what happened to GRob, AGAIN!Like I’ve said before, that’s coaching!!
– Everything of course leads back to Jeff Fisher but there is a systemic issue with this team.
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I noticed they were running
at AD.w
vDecember 23, 2014 at 9:42 am #14552
canadaramParticipantSan Diego was effective in running at Donald as well. Draw plays seem to be an effective tool to deal with him.
December 23, 2014 at 2:39 pm #14583canadaramParticipantBTW, stopping a run away brawl is pretty difficult for one or two guys to do. From what I’ve seen of the video neither Long nor Laurinaitis escalated the brawl. It looked like both were in the middle trying to hold back some people. Not sure what other people are seeing, or expected of them.
December 23, 2014 at 3:01 pm #14584wvParticipantBTW, stopping a run away brawl is pretty difficult for one or two guys to do. From what I’ve seen of the video neither Long nor Laurinaitis escalated the brawl. It looked like both were in the middle trying to hold back some people. Not sure what other people are seeing, or expected of them.
Well, i think Laurinaitis had a lot of
fight breakups but
they were all mainly ten yards past
the sideline.w
vDecember 23, 2014 at 5:10 pm #14610
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Laram– The Giants began the game running simple dive plays right at Aaron Donald.
They tried to establish the run by muscling him up and running right at him.
The Giants had over 130yds rushing, most of it on dive plays.
Like dz and I were discussing last week, its a copycat league so expect to see more of that.
– Why was Barron in two high safety on the OBJ 80yd TD?
99% of the time the Rams have used Barron in the box, but Williams decides to get cute.
So what do the Giants do to counter? They run a combo route to cause confusion and create a mismatch. If you re-watch the play watch the routes and what Tru and Joyner do. The route caused the confusion and left Barron alone in deep coverage.
Greg Williams outsmarted himself on that alignment, and a smart OC took advantage.
– Simple stunts beat this o-line like a drum on both sides of the line. They ran a game on the right side that both Barks and DJ f-uped.
Of course we saw what happened to GRob, AGAIN!Like I’ve said before, that’s coaching!!
– Everything of course leads back to Jeff Fisher but there is a systemic issue with this team.
He’s right, you know.
By virtue of the absurd ...
December 25, 2014 at 9:45 am #14708znModeratorfrom off the net
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Schotty frustrates me at times but I don’t know of many fan-bases that like their OC. I will say that watching this team week after week, I don’t think Schotty is the problem. Tavon’s usage frustrates me but I also don’t think Tavon is “there” yet as a WR. I would like to see him used more on deep routes but that’s digressing from my point. The guy called a great game today [Giants game] and the offense has overachieved this year with the QB play and IOL play we have. I’d keep Schotty. The guy deserves a full year with a starting caliber QB.
I think arguably that our offense has overachieved. Our QB play this year has been a major issue and it’s hard for an OC to look good when his QB misses a lot of plays. I don’t think there are a lot of OCs out there that could do much with Hill and Davis at QB. To add onto the QB woes, we lost our #1 WR and our starting LT early in the season. Davin Joseph and Scott Wells have been bad. We’re not winning the LOS because Joseph and Wells severely limit what we can do. They have arguably been the worst players at their positions this year. And our offense has to work to compensate for the liabilities they are in the middle of the OL. Our C and RG can’t be relied upon in the run game and we have to design blocking schemes to cover for their issues. It seems like a lot of our success running it comes outside the tackles or on misdirection such as counters and traps. I don’t notice a lot of success running the ball inside the tackles to the front-side of the play. And we’re breaking in a rookie LT. Actually both our RT and LT have had consistency issues because Joe Barksdale has struggled the second half of the year. And our WR/TE corp is much better this year but still not the best in this league.
I’m not saying the guy needs to have the perfect offense…but is it too much to ask for Schotty to have an offense with average talent before we judge him? So…lets fix our interior and lets stabilize the QB situation.
I’m not concerned about the defense. They’ll be fine. They’re still in their first year in a new scheme with a lot of young players. I think we’re pretty set aside from depth and upgrading on adequate starters. You don’t need an All Pro at every position and you can’t afford an All Pro at every position. Defensively, next year, we could be top 5.
Today [Giants game] sucked but even the 2000 Ravens gave up 36 points to the Jacksonville Jaguars. Our defense had a bad day. Beckham’s two TDs came off blown coverages. I lay that at the feet of the players. Trumaine playing like he was hung over certainly helped them with that.
On the long Beckham TD. Mark Barron wasn’t supposed to be on an island. That’s the blown coverage. You can see it if you watch the replay. Trumaine seems shocked that Joyner is doubling his guy. And I would be too because based on my knowledge of our scheme and that coverage, Joyner should have been carrying Beckham Jr. up the field in trail position with Barron over the top. He hung Barron out to dry. But that’s the issue with rookies. They make mental errors. And it’s probably why Joyner hasn’t been playing as much lately…he’s still adjusting to the scheme.
December 25, 2014 at 1:27 pm #14711wvParticipantjrry32
Schotty frustrates me at times but I don’t know of many fan-bases that like their OC. I will say that watching this team week after week, I don’t think Schotty is the problem. Tavon’s usage frustrates me but I also don’t think Tavon is “there” yet as a WR. I would like to see him used more on deep routes but that’s digressing from my point. The guy called a great game today [Giants game] and the offense has overachieved this year with the QB play and IOL play we have. I’d keep Schotty. The guy deserves a full year with a starting caliber QB.
I think arguably that our offense has overachieved. Our QB play this year has been a major issue and it’s hard for an OC to look good when his QB misses a lot of plays. I don’t think there are a lot of OCs out there that could do much with Hill and Davis at QB. To add onto the QB woes, we lost our #1 WR and our starting LT early in the season. Davin Joseph and Scott Wells have been bad. We’re not winning the LOS because Joseph and Wells severely limit what we can do. They have arguably been the worst players at their positions this year. And our offense has to work to compensate for the liabilities they are in the middle of the OL. Our C and RG can’t be relied upon in the run game and we have to design blocking schemes to cover for their issues. It seems like a lot of our success running it comes outside the tackles or on misdirection such as counters and traps. I don’t notice a lot of success running the ball inside the tackles to the front-side of the play. And we’re breaking in a rookie LT. Actually both our RT and LT have had consistency issues because Joe Barksdale has struggled the second half of the year. And our WR/TE corp is much better this year but still not the best in this league.
I’m not saying the guy needs to have the perfect offense…but is it too much to ask for Schotty to have an offense with average talent before we judge him? So…lets fix our interior and lets stabilize the QB situation.
I’m not concerned about the defense. They’ll be fine. They’re still in their first year in a new scheme with a lot of young players. I think we’re pretty set aside from depth and upgrading on adequate starters. You don’t need an All Pro at every position and you can’t afford an All Pro at every position. Defensively, next year, we could be top 5.
Today [Giants game] sucked but even the 2000 Ravens gave up 36 points to the Jacksonville Jaguars. Our defense had a bad day. Beckham’s two TDs came off blown coverages. I lay that at the feet of the players. Trumaine playing like he was hung over certainly helped them with that.
On the long Beckham TD. Mark Barron wasn’t supposed to be on an island. That’s the blown coverage. You can see it if you watch the replay. Trumaine seems shocked that Joyner is doubling his guy. And I would be too because based on my knowledge of our scheme and that coverage, Joyner should have been carrying Beckham Jr. up the field in trail position with Barron over the top. He hung Barron out to dry. But that’s the issue with rookies. They make mental errors. And it’s probably why Joyner hasn’t been playing as much lately…he’s still adjusting to the scheme.
Yeah, i tend to agree with a lot of that.
This little board is a bit different than most,
in that i think there’s a consensus on this board
that BS is Not part of the problem. He’s had to deal
with the Bradford injuries the Jake Long gimpiness
the young WRs, injuries on the Oline, etc. Its hard
to tell what he would do with a talented, healthy, experienced,
offense.w
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