GreatRamNTheSky wrote:

WV, the same reason as any broadcasting company would suspend him currently because they do not want to deal with the backlash of those who would demand his job and those who would protest the company and they do not want to seem insensitive to the victims rights.
My point WV, is it seems we’ve become a society where if somebody utters something insensitive or stupid as human beings do every once in a while that we immediately call for them to be punished. Can we not simply disagree with him rather to extract a pound of flesh? People say stupid things. Even broadcasters as we have seen over the years.

Well…theze are strange times, Grits.

Who’s your alltime favorite Ram, btw?

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GreatRamNTheSky wrote:

Nobody has a right to an opinion any longer. Sad. So you don’t like what Robinson said and that is fine. I do not know what to think about the Ray Rice situation other than it was wrong of him to hit his girl friend. Violence against women should not be condoned. Violence against men should not be condoned either.

But, are we not violating our own constitutional rights of freedom of thought and speech when we demand someone be punished for expressing an opinion? I don’t know. I’m beginning to think free speech is a lie.

Grits

Well, why do you think the Corporation
he worked for suspended him ?

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Well, its all complicated aint it — the media, the sports league,
the money, the advertising dollars, the various views on Violence
and men, and women, and blame, etc. Lots of contested ideological-terrain.
It oughta lead to some good and bad conversation over the air-waves.

All them there clashing ideas
might lead to some learnin,
and change, and growth.

Btw, to state the obvious,
sometimes Victims stay with Abusers
because of all kinds of complex psychological
reasons. And sometimes they stay for…
the Money. Either way, they are still
victims of domestic (and perhaps economic) abuse.

Alrighty then,
I’m done here.
Go Rams.

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Dak wrote:

Wells is a big disappointment. He’s got to get better, or someone has to replace him and do better.

Donald looks exactly like the guy the Rams expected him to be.

I think we all thought the Rams OLine would
be strong in the middle with
Greg R, Wells, Saffold.

One game doesnt tell the story,
but they certainly didnt look strong
in game one.

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Mackeyser wrote:

As for Ray Rice…IF he actually gets to the point of contrition, I’ll be open to hearing it. If you listen to that press conference where he tells Janay Palmer Rice to apologize for “her role in the incident” by saying, “don’t you have something to say?” as if, “look, you. This is part YOUR fault.”

That to me SCREAMS that Ray Rice is still a full on abuser and is having ZERO part of any rehabilitation.

Now that he’s suspended, I’m QUITE sure he blames her…whether it’s because she couldn’t take a punch or “fell wrong” so she “got herself knocked out on the railing” or… well, you name it.

Let’s be clear. I’m all for second chances…for the contrite.

So, until and unless Ray Rice truly comes to grips with what he did, takes responsibility for it IN AT LEAST AS PUBLIC A WAY AS HE ASKED JANAY TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR HER BEATING, then I hope he’s NOT let off the hook, that people do NOT let him move on and that he’s constantly reminded that he IS a batterer.

Why? Because…he’s not going to change until he’s going to change. And at this time, he’s shown exactly zero signs that he cares to change.

I mean, really. Putting his wife out front to apologize to the world for putting her face too quickly in front of his fist and not being able to retain consciousness when her head slammed into the rail?

Nope. Too often in this fast food nation we want everything quick, even if it isn’t done which lets people off the hook if they’ll only just stand still long enough to let everyone’s attention drift to something else (which only takes a few minutes usually these days). Well, Ray Rice can turn to stone and I’ll still see him as a batterer until HE changes. I don’t need his victims to apologize. I don’t need other shit to happen in the universe to distract me.

Where’s his pain? Where’s his angst? Where’s his difficult journey? Anyone see Ray Rice walking that road? I sure as hell don’t.

The day he’s contrite and actually gives a shit about change, then and only then, will *I* give a shit about Ray Rice getting a chance to move on.

Oh, and since domestic violence is epidemic in this country and desperately needs TONS more discussion… I’m perfectly content to let Ray Rice continue to be the poster boy for it as long as he…well, I was going to say faking his contrition, but he’s not even trying to do that. So, as long as he’s a proud batterer, he can be plenty out front afaic.

Why is ANYONE concerned about Ray Rice getting the chance to move on so quickly, anyway?

Yeah, i agree with all that.

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Well Bradford was the Offensive leader
and Chris Long was the Defensive Leader.

Who’s the Special Teams leader?
He would be next, i would think
if i am reading these entrails
correctly.

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I think Greg Robinson and Aaron Donald were
the best picks given the info Snisher had at the time.

Bradford seemed fine. Hill seemed like a solid back-up.

I ‘do’ think maybe they shoulda drafted a developmental
guy earlier than the 6th round.

A rookie would not save them this year, though. I mean
if they had drafted one early, he’d still be a rookie
and they’d still be screwed this year.

…course if this were my team, M.Vick would have
been signed a coupla years ago. For better or worse.

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GreatRamNTheSky wrote:

Oh well, it was just a thought. LOL

Grits

Surely there will be a Good QB available
in the 15-25 range in the first round.
Surely.

And then an OLineman or two
in the 2nd and 3rd round.

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joemad wrote:

i don’t know if he’ll ever play in the NFL either but you never know….. afterall some dumb ass organization traded HOF Jerome Bettis to Pittsburgh to get the rights to draft some dickhead from Nebraska who beat his girlfriend in college

Was that the same organization
that traded up for the Pope’s Hooker?

Rice will play again. And i dont mind that, frankly.
As long as he grows and evolves and learns what he needs to learn.
What often happens though, is the person just
learns how to jump-through-all-the-hoops and say-the-right-things.

This ‘could’ be a chance for Rice to grow
in all kinds of poignant ways.

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PA Ram wrote:

You always were a bit conservative on your thinking—I like the Rams 73-3 score—but “maryjanewatson” IS a little overboard with the Bucs getting that FG.

Well, usually i am in accord with maryJane
but in this case i’m gonna just say no.

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UbuntuBuc, on 08 Sept 2014 – 8:14 PM, said:
6-3 Rams. Everyone remembers the 1999 Bears but is upset to see the Buccaneers on the losing end of a god awful game.

6-3 Rams is still my call.
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Hmmm. I suppose they could score six on the road,
with their third string QB,
but I dunno know.
I think I’m going with:

Rams 5
Bux 3

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Herzog wrote:

I still believe we can do a complete 180 turn around….but I am also perplexed at the lack of readiness of this team.

The defense looked ready to me.

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Agamemnon wrote:

The corp. takes care of its image. That is most important. It is ok to lie or be wrong, but don’t embarrass me.

The corporate-PR suits will also work the other side
of things — they will consult with Ray Rice and he will
be magically transformed and redeemed ala, Greg Williams, M.Vick, etc,
in a year or two.

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Well, I’m not sure Los Angeles
is gonna want’em either.

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I noticed during the rewind of the first half
Hill seemed a tad gimpy. Just a hint of a limp.
The quad injury seems the most likely explanation
for his being replaced.

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