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  • in reply to: Chudzinski update…no go #17444
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    in reply to: Breaking News in Pats Investigation #17443
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    Well, if the Patriots win, I could see the NFL skating the issue, because they certainly don’t want a tainted Super Bowl winner.

    OR, regardless of the outcome (and much more likely if the Pats lose), the NFL could really come down hard on the Patriots because they’ve already tainted the playoffs … and what better way to deter tampering in the future than to smack the Pats. I would propose a year-long suspension to Belicheat, a loss of 1st-round picks for the next 3 years, and a $10 million fine to the organization. And, that’s with no direct evidence. Remember, the NFL already set a precedent of coming down hard on a head coach without any direct evidence that he participated in a violation when they suspended Sean Payton for a year. With direct evidence, pretty much double the suspension and triple the fine.

    Well….what if Belichick didnt know? …don’t shoot
    the questioner.

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    in reply to: Breaking News in Pats Investigation #17437
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    Nothing’s going to happen.

    They’re going to blame it all on some locker room attendent a la Matt Walsh and they’ll all skate.

    So what if they are fined and lose draft picks? If they win the Super Bowl, they and their fans will still believe they earned it and the NFL will fight like hell to defend it because they don’t want anyone to believe that they sell a tainted product.

    Except, most folks not Pats fans don’t believe that.

    If the balls dont fit
    you gotta acquit.

    Or somethin like that.

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    in reply to: Should NFL players have to talk to media? #17436
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    It’s all part of the corporate packaging of the game.

    They don’t just want guys to play well, but they want SPOKESPEOPLE for the league.

    Worse, if the player does anything to damage the league, they can be fined. So, they HAVE to do and say stuff to improve the league.

    I’ve always been curious about how the media and the rams
    go about choosing WHO is gonna talk — like, it always
    seems like Chris Long and Laurinaitis get to talk a lot.
    I dont see as much of the other players, but maybe
    I’m wrong on that. I dunno.

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    in reply to: speculations about Rams interest in Foles #17433
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    I’d trade a draft choice for Foles, I guess. Maybe a 3rd-rounder. I mean, are we going to get anyone better in this draft? Probably not.

    Yeah, i was thinkin, maybe a 3rd rounder.
    Maybe a 3rd and a 5th. Somethin like that.

    Dunno that i would give a 2nd.

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    in reply to: Breaking News in Pats Investigation #17432
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    I don’t what’s going to happen, but this is pretty good theater. You can feel the noose tightening around Belicheat’s neck.

    I dunno. All Belichex has to do is say “I didnt tell him to do it.”
    I mean, how is anyone gonna prove anything? There’s no video-tape
    of Belichex telling anyone to do anything. Etc, and so forth.

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    in reply to: Should NFL players have to talk to media? #17424
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    I think they shouldn’t be allowed to talk to the media. Think of the hours and hours of boring interviews we would be spared from.

    What about obscene gestures?

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    in reply to: speculations about Rams interest in Foles #17417
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    I didnt realize he was so big: 6’5″ and 245 Lbs.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Foles

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    in reply to: speculations about Rams interest in Foles #17416
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    Laram

    In his first yr in a qb friendly uptempo system with wr’s running free, he puts up great numbers

    Second season, film on him, no D-Jax his accuracy and decision making is suspect and he’s a TO machine.

    I’d give a 4th that I don’t have for him.

    That’s IT.
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    in reply to: the repeat topic: OL #17415
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    None of this is hardcore “reveal level” evidence, it’s all just mutually exclusive value judgements. Interpretation. Opinions.

    So no one is in a position to say “why do you ignore the truth.” It’s suppositions and inferences either way.

    Let a thousand flowers die.

    Thats what i say.

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    “You have come to the shore. There are no instructions.”
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    in reply to: the repeat topic: OL #17412
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    Even that’s open to debate.

    I don’t see them as having screwed up with decisions, plural.

    I don;t think the results are good for 2014, but then, I always stress that the Rams OL history includes massive doses of bad luck.

    Who injures 4 centers in one year?

    And I promise you, the issue with Long when they signed him was whether he could still play at a high level. No one said “he will have other injuries.” The fear was that the arms weren’t fixed, not that he would start working on injuring the legs.

    In terms of fixing it, they clearly are. So I agree with you there.

    And as I said, to me, the stand-out thing is that the PB/JF axis has a combined 40 years of fielding good OLs. Odds favor them doing it again.

    Well, I just dont really agree on Jake Long. I view him
    as a big fat personnel Mistake. I dont think thats an unfair conclusion.
    Lots of posters thought Long was too big an “injury risk” back when
    they made the signing. I mean, i remember Laram was all over that one.

    So we disagree about that, but I dont wanna go over the same ground.

    For me, Long counts as a personnel mistake.

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    in reply to: Rams ten players away? #17411
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    Naw. It’s a bad analysis.

    Yeah, its awful.

    But i’m thinking the Rams
    might be ten players away
    from being post modern.

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    “Postmodernity is said to be a culture of fragmentary sensations, eclectic nostalgia, disposable simulacra, and promiscuous superficiality, in which the traditionally valued qualities of depth, coherence, meaning, originality, and authenticity are evacuated or dissolved amid the random swirl of empty signals.”
    ― Jean Baudrillard

    in reply to: Now that's a Pro Bowl! #17406
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    I really can’t remember if there was a time when players actually tried playing in the Pro Bowl but I watched about two minutes of it yesterday and had to turn it off. The defense looked like they were standing around watching things more than anything else–which is fine because I would hate to see an injury, but it makes for an awful football game to watch.

    I used to love it–the excitement of seeing the Rams players in their helmets.

    These days I just tune it out.

    Its an absurdity. A joke.

    They should turn it into a bingo-game
    or spelling-Bee or square dance or somethin.
    I mean, sure, give the great players recognition
    but the game itself is a travesty. Worse than Ishtar.

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    in reply to: the repeat topic: OL #17405
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    I think its worth at least noting that
    Snisher has done a pretty good job
    building the defense and special teams.

    Its not like they are blithering idiots
    when it comes to personnel.

    Just seems to me, that its more likely
    than not that they are gonna Fix the
    OLine.

    They know everything depends on it.

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    Well, I have certainly never said they were blithering idiots.

    Indeed, I have said quite often that I rate Snead’s performance fairly highly. That’s why I plead for a distinction between Snead and Fisher. I would repeat that plea in this discussion.

    I also plead for a recognition of the mixed middle. Snead has built up the talent for the defense and the special teams. He has drafted RBs well, too.

    But success in cases A, B, and C does not safely predict success in Case C. One can hit a home run in the 2nd and strike out in the 4th. Also, there are GMs who know how to draft position X but not position Y.

    So, I don’t see the logic of your post. Not because I think these guys are idiots. But because A) I see problems and B) these guys have a 3 year track record of failing to solve those problems.

    And that’s the part that continues to astonish me about the near-consensus on this board. This assumption that, after 3 years of not getting things done, the Ram FO is to be expected to get them right next year.

    Maybe they will. Damn, I hope they do. And you’re right. They HAVE done some things well. I freely acknowledge that those things count. I insist that the failures count as well.

    And the odds of success are low. They always are. And for a regime that has not moved the needle significantly in 3 years of trying, I simply cannot understand why anyone would just assume that they they will beat the odds this time.

    It’s just a strange dynamic right now, or, at least, it’s strange to me. I listen to the optimistic projections and the assertions that things will be easy, I remember how we have shared these expectations in recent years, and I look back on the string of failures. And I just do not get how folks whose intelligence and perspicacity I esteem can fool themselves yet again.

    I just don’t understand it.

    Well, I dont know the future anymore than anyone else,
    but my own ‘gut’ tells me that every single personnel guy in the Rams-Building
    KNOWS that this team cannot get off the ground without
    the addition of some healthy, strong, studs on the Oline.
    I mean its just so obvious thats what they need.

    They will throw everything they have at that problem.
    They’ll draft players, they’ll sign free agents.

    So, yeah, i think they will fix it.

    Even though they screwed up with some of
    the earlier personnel decisions.

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    in reply to: New England … praise and blame #17401
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    3-ply Urethane Bladder news.
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    Seamstress Who Handed Off to the N.F.L. for 48 Years
    Watching Patriots Scandal From Afar, a Retired Football Maker Says Wilson Did Its Job

    By KEN BELSONJAN. 21, 2015

    “…Despite reports that the cold weather or a player spiking the ball might have led to the deflation, the only way to remove that much air that quickly would be to put a needle in the valve and to let the air seep out, said Kevin Murphy, who runs the American football division at Wilson.

    Wilson, he said, goes to great lengths to ensure the N.F.L. balls do not leak, even in extreme heat or cold. Every ball has a special three-ply urethane bladder inside, and during production, the balls are filled with 100 pounds of air pressure and then deflated to 13 pounds, the amount required for game balls….

    ….The leather arrives each Monday from Chicago, where Horween tans it to Wilson’s specifications. The hides are 22 square feet, about the side of a cow, and have been cured in a secret milky, tacky liquid created for Wilson. Before the leather gets to Ada, it is pounded to give it a pebbly feel, and tiny W’s are embossed on the leather to ensure authenticity.

    The hides are laid on a table, and a metal form is pressed down to cut out oval panels, which are then weighed and matched for color consistency. A thin layer of leather is peeled off the backs of the panels to reduce their weight.

    After they are stacked in sets of four, the panels are stamped with the N.F.L. logo and other design features. Mesh linings made out of rubber and cotton are then affixed to the panels to help the ball maintain its shape.
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    The panels are sewed inside out in halves, perhaps the most difficult job in the factory. The halves are then sewn together with heavy thread to make an inside-out football, which is put in a steam box to soften the leather and is stretched. The seams are rolled to flatten them.

    Lacers turn the balls outside in, stuff a rubber bladder inside and push a nipple through a small hole so the balls can be inflated. Laces are added using an awl. The ball is overinflated to stretch the seams and is deflated to its designed weight.

    “I still get goose bumps when I grab a game ball,” Murphy said. “It’s the perfect shape, feel and smell.”

    N.F.L. balls are just a small part of the production at the factory. In all, about 700,000 leather balls a year, between 3,000 and 4,000 a day, are made in Ada, with about half of them shipped in the spring to high schools and colleges. (Nonleather balls are produced in China.)

    Although Wilson says it controls about 70 percent of the game-ball market, companies like Nike have pushed in. This makes Wilson’s exclusive N.F.L. agreement even more important.

    “The N.F.L. is a big deal for us because if you get a product like that in the hands of the best players in the world, it’s huge,” Murphy said…
    ..see link
    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/22/sports/football/new-england-patriots-scandal-from-afar-a-retired-football-maker-says-wilson-did-its-job.html?WT.mc_id=2015-JAN-OUTBRAIN-VIEWED_AUD_DEV-0121-0131&WT.mc_ev=click&ad-keywords=OUTBRAINAD&_r=0

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    in reply to: Plays that shaped the Rams' season: No. 6 #17398
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    The defense was such a mess in that first month.

    Is there any way ‘that’ could happen again
    next year? Doesn’t seem likely.

    I would think teams are gonna try
    to run at A.Donald. Rams need
    to be strong up the middle.

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    http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/15668/plays-that-shaped-the-rams-season-no-6-2

    Plays that shaped the Rams’ season: No. 6
    January, 23, 2015

    EARTH CITY, Mo. — After a 7-9 finish in 2013, the St. Louis Rams entered the 2014 season with postseason visions in their heads. To get there, the Rams figured to have to navigate one of the toughest schedules in the league, which meant getting a win in the season opener at home against the Minnesota Vikings would be pretty much mandatory.

    It didn’t happen.

    Patterson
    After a slow first half in which the Rams went into the locker room trailing 13-0, St. Louis managed a field goal to make it 13-3. Although there were no signs of the offense getting into a rhythm after the loss of quarterback Shaun Hill to a quad injury, the Rams had managed to contain running back Adrian Peterson and were still in the game. Then Vikings receiver Cordarrelle Patterson struck.

    With 2:08 left in the third quarter and a first-and-10 at their 33, the Vikings lined up with Patterson in the backfield and called a simple crack toss to the right side of the offensive line. Patterson took the toss, bounced off a couple of defenders, and weaved his way through the Rams defense for a 67-yard touchdown.

    It was an ominous sign for a run defense that would be gashed so badly and with such regularity in the first five weeks that it ranked near the bottom of the league. Because teams were having such success on the ground, the Rams saw the fewest passes against of any team in the league in that span, part of the reason they set a league record for futility by only posting one sack in the first five games.

    The run gave Minnesota a 20-3 lead which ultimately resulted in a 34-6 win that dropped the Rams to 0-1 and left many wondering just how bad the 2014 season would become. The Rams helped offset a loss in a game many thought they should win with upsets against the likes of Denver and Seattle, but the slow start would be too much to overcome.

    Making matters worse, the Rams lost defensive end Chris Long for most of the season to an ankle/foot injury against Minnesota, and Hill’s injury led to a game of musical quarterbacks in which Austin Davis took the reins for the next eight starts only to hand them back to Hill for the season’s final seven games.

    It was a brutal beginning for what turned into the latest in a long line of disappointing seasons in St. Louis.

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    Lots of discussion about American Sniper all over
    the Net. Generally speaking things breakdown
    along the usual political lines. They just do.

    Ya got tons and tons of rightwing writers saying
    “its not political, and even if it is, its accurate”

    And ya got leftwing writers saying,
    “War movies are political, and this one is inaccurate”

    Everyone seems to agree the cinematography and
    “craftsmanship” in the movie are first-rate.

    The two main views are
    represented below…fwiw

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    http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/01/22/dirty-harry-goes-to-iraq/
    A Cultural Essay
    Dirty Harry Goes To Iraq
    by JOHN GRANT

    ….Like the Iraq War itself, Eastwood’s movie begins by exploiting a historically inaccurate delusion and, then, sustains itself for two hours on the mission to protect US soldiers against the insurgency that arose in opposition to the US invasion and occupation based on the initial delusion….

    Any honest skeptic equipped with even a cursory understanding of the antecedents to the Iraq War will see what’s going on here. It’s not a debatable issue: We know now for sure that Iraq had absolutely nothing — nada, zilch — to do with the downing of the twin towers in New York. Dick Cheney’s persistent claims to the contrary, the secular Muslim Saddam Hussein, once our ally, was a bitter enemy of al Qaeda. But in 2014, the film’s producer, writer and director decided on a clean and efficient plot line that hinges on the highly emotional image of the towers falling. The real Chris Kyle may have absolutely believed in this fictional connection, but a protagonist’s delusion is not a defense for emotionally perpetuating such a costly fiction (many call it a “lie”) in a narrative film about the war. But, then, that’s what “popular” filmmaking is all about, and Eastwood is, if nothing else, a maestro of popular American storytelling. Whether or not one respects such a corrupt decision, the fact is American Sniper is an extremely well-made movie….
    ….
    Over the years, he has honed this very masculine style and become a popular film director exploring the American psyche mostly from the reactionary right — though his films are always a dialogue with issues on the left. American Sniper is no different with its limited contrapuntal theme of PTSD and homefront family adjustment.

    All that storytelling talent is on the screen in American Sniper. Like the war itself, the film is aggressive, masculine and highly kinetic. The film’s sound effects are rich and thundering in the theater; its camera work is direct and bold. There’s a real “shock and awe” feel to the piece. MRAPs roar out of the FOB with a menacing hugeness. Any sense of reflection is missing, and historical and political context are willfully left out of the story. When confronted with leftist criticism suggesting the film got the Iraq War wrong, producer and star Bradley Cooper reportedly said, “It’s not a film about debating the war; it’s a character study.”
    Cooper is right: The film is a character study — a highly controlled character study that clearly leaves a lot out. But all it takes is watching Fox News champ Sean Hannity’s groveling before the film for a full hour special to realize Cooper may be a likable, talented actor, but he’s dead wrong when he says the film isn’t part of the debate about the Iraq War. In a larger context, it’s also very much about violence and militarism in America in these very complicated and troubling times.

    By avoiding contextual issues — specifically, the reasons SEAL sniper Chris Kyle was in Iraq killing those 160 Iraqi insurgents — the film is art that operates as propaganda in a cultural context. Film-making skills are not to be sneezed at, but to use a classically egregious example, D.W. Griffith’s Birth of the Nation was also an extremely well-made film. As for Iraq War films, to contrast Eastwood’s film, the plot that drives the Matt Damon film Green Zone is getting to the bottom of all the things that don’t add up in the search for WMDs. In that film, making sense of the war’s confusing context is the goal, while in American Sniper, the goal is hero worship and avoidance of anything that sullies that story…. See link….’
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    http://www.frontpagemag.com/2015/mark-tapson/eastwoods-american-sniper-republican-propaganda/
    Eastwood’s ‘American Sniper’: Republican Propaganda?
    By Mark Tapson

    ….Now comes American Sniper, directed by Clint Eastwood and based on the memoir of the same name by the late SEAL warrior Chris Kyle, whose 160 confirmed sniper kills (and almost 100 more “probables”) in the Iraq war made him a legend. With the film, the openly conservative/libertarian Hollywood icon Eastwood dared to buck the trend and make a movie that refuses to muddy the moral waters.

    Liberal critics bristled. In the end-of-the-year issue of New York magazine, film critic David Edelson began his review of American Sniper with an ad hominem attack on the director for his political conservatism. Referring to Eastwood’s playful address to an empty chair representing President Obama at the 2012 Republican National Convention, Edelson wrote that “Eastwood looked as if he were slipping into doddering dementia.”

    He goes on to admit that American Sniper is “a crackerjack piece of filmmaking” and that its star Bradley Cooper “is very impressive” in the lead role; but morally, he says, Eastwood “has regressed.” Because the movie doesn’t condemn what Edelson calls “the Iraq occupation,” then it must be dismissed as “scandalously blinkered” and nothing more than “a Republican platform movie.”

    A.O. Scott’s review in the New York Times correctly states that American Sniper “reaffirms Mr. Eastwood’s commitment to the themes of vengeance and justice in a fallen world. In the universe of his films — a universe where the existence of evil is a given — violence is a moral necessity, albeit one that often exacts a cost from those who must wield it in the service of good.” This is a distinctly conservative world view which Scott finds ethically arguable and potentially dangerous; nonetheless, he concedes that “much of [the movie’s] considerable power derives from the clarity and sincerity of its bedrock convictions.”

    But the only moral conviction that the left can accept about the Iraq war is one which condemns our role in it. Hence Scott goes on to assert that Eastwood “edits the history in which [the story] is embedded,” although he doesn’t say how. The implication is that Eastwood’s “troubling” moral perspective does not allow for the foreign policy critique that Scott requires from a Hollywood war movie. Indeed he writes that “though George W. Bush’s name is never invoked, ‘American Sniper’ can be seen as an expression of nostalgia for his Manichaean approach to foreign policy.”

    That approach is too simplistic for the left, who are uncomfortable with the notion that there are good guys and bad guys, and even more uncomfortable with the notion that Americans are the good guys. Progressives pretend that they see the world as more “nuanced,” when in fact what the left calls nuance is usually moral equivalence; for them, America at war is always in the wrong, and the people who want to kill us do so because they have legitimate “grievances.”

    Scott doesn’t like the fact that Chris Kyle’s enemies “are identified only and repeatedly as Al Qaeda,” and neither does Edelson, who complains that “the people Kyle shoots always represent a ‘savage, despicable evil.’” This leads one to suspect that the critics would have preferred that Eastwood show our soldiers killing innocent Iraqis as well, not just the bad guys. “As in many jingoist war movies,” Scott writes, “the native population are portrayed as invaders of our sacred space instead of vice versa.” But we weren’t at war with the native population, of course; we were at war with the savage, despicable evil of international terrorist Saddam Hussein and of the insurgents who were terrorizing the natives.

    Critics like Edelson and Scott don’t criticize the heavy-handed politics of left-leaning films or directors. They didn’t call George Clooney’s and Matt Damon’s jihadist recruitment movie Syriana “scandalously blinkered.” They didn’t dismiss Sean Penn’s Valerie Plame snoozefest Fair Game as a “Democrat platform movie.” They didn’t say that Brian de Palma – whose disgusting Redacted portrayed our soldiers as raping, murdering occupiers – had “regressed” morally.

    But let a right-leaning director make a film that strives to be apolitical, and progressives – for whom everything is political – must politicize it so that they can then condemn it as jingoistic. “The politics of the Iraq war are entirely absent” in American Sniper, Scott wrote, “which is a political statement in its own right.” So he magically declares it “a propaganda film,” just as Edelson called it a “Republican platform movie.” Conservative directors are damned if they do, damned if they don’t.

    In a sense, though, American Sniper IS a Republican platform movie – or at least, a conservative platform movie, because it reflects the wisdom that, in A.O. Scott’s own words, “violence is a moral necessity that often exacts a cost from those who must wield it in the service of good.” Soldiers are not political. They are at the service of our country, at the mercy of our politicians, and at the command of their superiors. Thus, to echo Tennyson, “Theirs not to reason why/Theirs but to do and die.” Conservatives recognize that and honor them for it. As much as it may aggravate the left, American Sniper is not about politics, but about an American hero at war with Islamic evil….see link…

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    Dunno if this has been posted:
    http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/101699/no-one-gets-more-help-than-russell-wilson

    “…Seattle’s defense has a knack for playing its best when Wilson and the offense are at their worst. Since the start of 2012, Wilson has had 22 games with a QBR below 50, including 15 wins. In those games, Seattle has held its opponents to an average QBR of 34.0 and has had a per-game defensive efficiency of +7.3. In Wilson’s games with an above-average QBR, the Seahawks have allowed a 45.7 average QBR and have had a +2.4 defensive efficiency rating.

    No one can take away Wilson’s NFL-leading 42 wins since the start of the 2012 season, the most by any player in his first three seasons (including playoffs) in the Super Bowl era. But much of his success has been a result of his teammates; he has had the benefit of playing with the most dominant defense in the NFL and the league’s leading rusher, Marshawn Lynch, in the past three years.
    … see link…”

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    “I would jump in, but i agree with every word
    zn has said.”

    Captain Renault in Casablanca: “I’m shocked, shocked I tell you…”

    Your views are not exactly a big surprise
    either, right?

    Zack and I share the same politics
    and approach to this stuff.
    You have a different approach/politix (shrug)

    Btw, i have NO idea how you can see an Eastwood
    movie and not see his politics. Its right there
    in the material he chooses.

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    I think its worth at least noting that
    Snisher has done a pretty good job
    building the defense and special teams.

    Its not like they are blithering idiots
    when it comes to personnel.

    Just seems to me, that its more likely
    than not that they are gonna Fix the
    OLine.

    They know everything depends on it.

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    The way I do this, I can have a critique like that of a film and still like it. I just counter-balance all the different stuff. You can’t look for movies to be always mirroring your own views. So I am always doing all the things at once — ideological critique, wasn’t that scene cool, great film, it’s still a commercial for mainstream beliefs, what a great film, etc..

    Yes.

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    I would jump in, but i agree with every word
    zn has said. Especially the parts about Art/Politics
    being kinda inseparable.

    And its ok to hold a film
    accountable for its political inaccuracies and lies,
    just as its ok to hold a film accountable for its
    aesthetics etc. Blah blah blah

    It would be impossible for Eastwood or Oliver Stone
    to make a movie about a sniper in Iraq
    without having this kind of thread
    pop up afterwards 🙂

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    Deflated footballs are easier to hold on to, so that could account for the highly improbable statistical disparity between the Patriot’s plays/fumble and everyone else’s. Just sayin.

    The next time Belichek negotiates a deal with Satan he should have his lawyers make sure it stipulates that the public won’t find out about the cheating. Yeah, he’ll get the wins and any repercussions from the cheating will be relatively mild but to non-Pats fans the victories will always be tainted. His legacy is forever tarnished.

    The algebra is interesting,
    but not conclusive, of course.

    What happens if Pete Carroll and Belichex,
    both made deals with the Devil?
    What then?

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    http://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/blog/2015/the-new-england-patriots-prevention-of-fumbles-is-nearly-impossible

    “….The 2014 Patriots were just the 3rd team in the last 25 years to never have lost a fumble at home! The biggest difference between the Patriots and the other 2 teams who did it was that New England ran between 150 and 200 MORE plays this year than those teams did in the years they had zero home fumbles, making the Patriots stand alone in this unique statistic.

    Based on the desire to incorporate full season data (not just home games, as a team theoretically bring “doctored footballs” with them on the road) I performed the following analysis:

    I looked at the last 5 years.of data (since 2010) and examined TOTAL FUMBLES in all games (as well as fumbles/game) but more importantly, TOTAL OFFENSIVE PLAYS RUN. Thus, we can to determine average PLAYS per FUMBLE, a much more valuable statistic. The results are displayed in the chart below. Keep in mind, this is for all games since 2010, regardless of indoors, outdoors, weather, site, etc. EVERYTHING…

    One can CLEARLY SEE the Patriots, visually, are off the chart. There is no other team even close to being near to their rate of 187 offensive plays (passes+rushes+sacks) per fumble. The league average is 105 plays/fumble. Most teams are within 21 plays of that number.

    I spoke with a data scientist who I know from work on the NFLproject.com website, and sent him the data. He said:

    Based on the assumption that fumbles per play follow a normal distribution, you’d expect to see, according to random fluctuation, the results that the Patriots have gotten over this period, once in 16,233.77 instances”.

    Which in layman’s terms means that this result only being a coincidence, is like winning a raffle where you have a 0.0000616 probability to win. Which in other words, it’s very unlikely that it’s a coincidence….
    …see link…”

    The comments after the article are interesting, btw

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    in reply to: the repeat topic: OL #17333
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    I agree with all that.

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    “Have the courage to be ignorant of a great many things in order
    to avoid the calamity of being ignorant of everything.”
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    in reply to: New England … praise and blame #17332
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    <span class=”d4pbbc-font-color” style=”color: blue”>Ridiculous to wait till after the Super Bowl,might not have affected the Colts game but the Ravens game very well could have.The goal of any cheating would have been to get to the Super Bowl if allowed to play in the Super Bowl anyway why not cheat is the message that sends</span>

    Well I would think the most ‘likely’ result of the investigation
    is that no-one will be able to prove anything.
    I mean, how are they gonna find out what happened
    if no-one confesses? My guess is
    there will be no way to find out who
    did what.

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    in reply to: Rams in the Pro Bowl #17311
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    Jeesh, their teaching him things.

    That can only help.

    Given that, they should send more players to the pro bowl.

    Yeah, thats a cool vid.
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    in reply to: Grayson, Hundley, Petty, Carden etc. … the qbs this year #17301
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