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wvParticipantwvParticipant…. If he is elected, the Republicans are going to instantly huddle up and figure out how to use him. They already ARE doing that. The guy is a bigger empty shirt than Ronald Reagan was, or George Bush. He has NO idea what’s actually going on. The person you will have to worry about is Rasputin. The Karl Rove, the Dick Cheney. Right now, we have no idea who that is going to be. But Trump will be the most ineffectual president since Warren Harding. Doesn’t mean he won’t do damage; he WILL. But so will Clinton, and it’s possible her damage will be unchecked.
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Pretty close to my view, but I’m more of a “we dont know WHAT Trump is exactly” kinda guy.
He’s against the Nafta type stuff. He’s been all over the place all his life. He’s a democrat one day, and and rep the next. I am not a hundred percent sure he would be worse than Hillary. He’s part Andrew-dice-Clay and part Pat Buchannon and part Ross Perot.
At any rate, if the Amerikan people want Hillary or Trump,
then….I will just plant my begonias and think about what kind of QB
Goff is gonna be.One vote for Jill, right here,
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vwvParticipantThe ‘drag queen article’ is the best of the bunch so far.
It gave me the best glimpse so far into who this guy was.Authoritarian, Bipolar, paranoid, alienated-outsider. Mix in a little
fundamentalist-superstition (Islam in this case) and some homophobia,
as well as some actual defensible-grievances against ‘America’ and….Ah well.
You could call it ‘terrorism’ but it fits the ‘mental illness’ category a little
better I think.“…he beat and emotionally abused her. From her home in Colorado, Yusufiy told reporters on Sunday that Mateem was bipolar and abused steroids.”
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vwvParticipantYoung Turks (who are great) on Elizabeth Warren’s support for HIllary
http://www.truthdig.com/avbooth/item/is_elizabeth_warren_less_progressive_for_failing_to_20160611
And who is Nina Turner? She sounded fantastic.
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vwvParticipantJUst a little blurb from one of the leaders of the Corporotacracy
https://theintercept.com/2016/06/08/pfizer-trump-clinton/
Pfizer CEO Can’t “Distinguish Between the Policies” of Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton
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vwvParticipantAnd why couldnt he drop the weight?
The impression I get from this is, it’s not “couldn’t”, it’s “didn’t.”
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Why do you think that? Seems more like ‘couldn’t’ to me.w
vI wouldn’t say couldn’t because he did last year.
But in any event, it just randomly strikes me that we have a different discussion if we used: mustn’t, shouldn’t, wouldn’t, shan’t, daren’t, hadn’t, hasn’t, needn’t, doesn’t, can’t, won’t, and/or oughtn’t.
Football can be so complicated.
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Yes, i know he lost weight last year (some posters thot it was a mistake)
So why would he want to lose even MORE weight ? Or did he gain it all back
again.These are important matters. Matters of ‘mass’. I remember when Wistrom was so light he floated away one windy-game in Chicago. I always thought Pat Haden should have tried to gain some height in the offseason, but I guess the idiot-coaches wanted him to play short.
My goal this offseason is to develop powers like Dr Strange. I think if I had a big Cape
it would all fall in place. What is your offseason improvement program-goal ?w
vwvParticipantwvParticipantI dunno that i agree with Mack, that this would benefit Trump.
I suspect Trump has already won-over the “anti-Islam crowd.” I doubt
there’s anymore folks to be won over from that piece of the voting-pie.The election now, is down to a small slice of the pie,
and i dont know exactly who those uncommitted folks are.
But i doubt they are the anti-islam, anti-immigration folks.
They are already wearing Trump buttons.What do i know, though. I’m just a meteor guy.
I dont have anything intelligent to say about the actual crime, cept,
there will be more. Every year there will be more. No matter which Replicant
or Duplicat is President.w
vwvParticipantWhy did he want to drop twenty pounds in the offseason?
(one would think a reporter would think to ask ‘why’, btw)And why couldnt he drop the weight? Heck the first five
pounds are just water-weight, is what i always heard.w
vwvParticipantThe stupid governor of Texas quoted “reap what you sow” on this one.
Let’s hope that holds true for him saying that.
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A Meteor would be nice,
maybe.“Presumptive Republican nominee Donald Trump also weighed in on Twitter, calling the incident “really bad” and linking it to terrorism. Trump later said that he appeciated the congratulations he was receiving about “being right on radical Islamic terrorism,” but he instead wanted toughness and vigilance.”
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vwvParticipantThanks for the video, WV. It’s a keeper, and something for me to spend some time with.
What did you think of my essay from 2008? I tried to add a Rothko painting here, which is included on my site, but I don’t have the same control over jpeg size, etc. So I deleted it (here, not there).
Bnw,
You might be interested in Susan Sontag’s seminal Against Interpretation. I bought and then read the book a long time ago, and it’s time for a reread. She has a lot of thought-provoking things to say about art, including Warhol.
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Well this is how i experience Rothko.“I am not an abstractionist. … I am not interested in the relationship of colour or form or anything else. … I’m interested only in expressing basic human emotions — tragedy, ecstasy, doom and so on — and the fact that a lot of people break down and cry when confronted with my pictures show that I communicate those basic human emotions. … The people who weep before my pictures are having the same religious experience I had when I painted them. And if you, as you say, are moved only by their color relationships, then you miss the point!”
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vwvParticipantOn Rothko: I wrote this for my own website back in 2008:
All art is paradox. But Rothko, perhaps more than any other modern painter, embraced the paradox and threw it profoundly in our faces.
The canvas is flat. You can’t enter it. You can’t go through it, if it’s hanging on the wall. At least without injury and perhaps a heavy bill from the gallery. But Rothko continuously tells the audience to do just that…
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I enjoyed this series a while back. I thot the Rothko film was good. But then I liked Rothko’s stuff:
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vwvParticipantAbstract art is ridiculous. … I find it amazing. Pollock must still be laughing in his grave.
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Well, I used to think that way myself, and I still do sometimes, when i walk through
a gallery and see stuff like a coat-hanger sticking out of a watermelon, etc.But then I stopped trying to ‘define’ what Art “is” a few years ago. (if you gather quotes by famous artists, btw, you will always find a sentence that starts ‘Art is….’ and for each artist their definition will be different. I happen to collect ‘Art is…‘ quotes, btw 🙂
One thing that has helped me think and wonder and enjoy and hate ART,
is to separate the ‘business/corporate/patron’ aspect of it, from
the artist/doing-art part of it. There’s always been and always going to be
rich folks who over-pay for ‘art’ or who view art as an ‘investment’ and who influence or control the art ‘market’. And that whole money-dynamic is a different thing
than ‘art’. Whatever art is. Or isn’t.Another interesting thing to me is, some of those ‘abstract’ artists could also paint
‘realistic’ pictures very well. They could do the realism thing just fine, and often did early in their careers. So, its not always a case of them not being ‘able’ to do landscapes and fruit baskets and greayhounds chasing foxes and stuff. Sometimes they just got-to rethinking what art is, and what life is, and started exploring weird stuff. Doesn’t make their art ‘good’ btw. Or bad. Ya know. Folks will have different experiences lookin at it.I’ve said this before — I used to think Rothko’s ‘one rectangle on top of another’ was bullshit. A child could paint that. Etc. Then one day, i was lookin at one of his paintings and i started tearing up. I got emotional. (apparently this is rather common with Rothko’s paintings) Well, that made me rethink Rothko’s work and i started reading about him, etc. Blah blah blah.
I dunno what Art is. Its fun to wonder about it, though.
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“Art is either plagiarism, or revolution.”
–Paul Gauguin.“Art is not a mirror held up to reality
but a hammer with which to shape it.”
― Bertolt Brecht“Art is the Mirror of our betrayed ideals.”
― Doris Lessing, The Golden Notebook“Art has nothing to do with clarity, does not dabble in the clear and does not make clear”
― Samuel Beckett“Art is the lie that enables us to realize the truth.”
― Pablo Picasso“Art enables us to find ourselves and lose ourselves at the same time.”
― Thomas Merton, No Man Is an Island“All art is autobiographical; the pearl is the oyster’s autobiography.”
― Federico FelliniNature is the art of God.
~ Thomas Browne, Religio Medici, 1635 ~wvParticipantI dont know what it is. Mainly because ‘they’ dont agree on what “it” is.
There’s many kinds of conservatives, just like there’s many kinds of ‘christians’ and ‘anarchists’ etc.http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/what-is-a-conservative/
What are our options btw? 🙂
What are the main political options open to us nowadays,
here, in America? We can be….what?Conservative
Neo-liberal
Liberal
Leftist
Neo-Con
Whatever-the-Hell-Trump-Is
DNC-Democrat
Libertarian
Green Party ProgressiveWhet else is out there?
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vwvParticipantWV: If “views” are her qualifications-as you wrote- there are a million others that are qualified including my gardner who shares those
views along with myself. Why is she a better candidate than either myself or my gardner?===================
Yes, but that is exactly my view — I think your gardener could do just fine as President,
if he/she was a critical thinker, was compassionate, and wise. And had help.Look at Reagan and Bush for example — Did they even write their own speeches? No.
Did they do their own thinking on 95 percent of the documents the signed? No. I mean, unless you really think Reagan/Bush were experts on Mongolia, technology, border disputes, Asia, a gazillion other things. They didnt know shit about a gazillion things they were asked to be involved in — so, what did they do? They got help. They got advice from people who they though WERE experts in various fields. Thats what they all do. Your gardener could do it.
Any poster on this board could be President.The differences would emerge because of political philosophies which would lead to
different POLICIES.You think being President requires all kinds of experience IN GOVERNMENT. I think being President requires Wisdom, compassion, critical thinking.
I also think any poster on this board could be a Supreme Court Justice. With a little help from a good law clerk. It aint that hard. WE are lead to ‘believe’ its hard. It aint. I always tell people being an elementary school teacher was WAAAAAY harder than being a lawyer. Most people probly think the opposite though. A lot of work and money go into convincing the average american that being a Judge/Lawyer/President/Politician is hard and should only be the realm of the Elites. Its bullshit.
Just my opinion. I’m glad you are posting here, btw. We disagree on a gazillion things, but i have learned its not ‘personal’. Just different views. Thats how i look at it now, anyway.
We need a president that SURFS. I wonder if any of them have?
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vJune 10, 2016 at 7:38 pm in reply to: leave Hillary out of it in THIS thread…in his own terms, what is Trump #45847wvParticipantYou can make that claim against any candidate by your logic. Trump isn’t bought going in. Just like Perot. But unlike Perot He is in it to win. He knows the parasitic realities of trying to get something done with parasite politicians demanding money. Better infrastructure is in all our interests.
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I think its a fair point that he cant be ‘bought’ by money.
Like Perot.But I also think its a fair question to wonder if he is intoxicated by “power”.
Ya know. What does Trump really want, and what is influencing him? I dunno.
Maybe its some sense of altruism, mixed with the usual darker stuff — narcissism, ego, ambition, etc. All the usual stuff, lies, distortions, that Shakespeare wrote about.But then, like you noted, you could say that about all the National Politicos.
Which is why i dont pay much attention to the “personality” stuff, concerning Trump or Clinton or anyone. Its the policies to me. Just the policies. I dont even care how Trump got his money (inheritance, corruption, etc)
Anyway, its a fascinating election. Just fascinating. Surreal too, as usual.
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vJune 10, 2016 at 7:30 pm in reply to: leave Hillary out of it in THIS thread…in his own terms, what is Trump #45846wvParticipantmexicans….
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Wow. Damn. Counter-Intuitive Facts can be so annoying, LoL.
More meixcans leaving than coming ? Who knew.
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vwvParticipantIf he hasn’t learned anything from his time in Philly it could be a disaster.
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I dunno. Mike Martz was asked in an interview about who the good offensive minds were
and if I’m not mistaken he mentioned Chip Kelly.The NFC West has some interesting coaches for sure:
Carroll
Arians
Kelly
FisherHow would you rank them?
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vwvParticipantHer views ‘are’ her ‘qualifications’ to me. Her views reflect ‘wisdom’ and critical thinking, and compassion.
I dont care that she hasn’t been secretary of state, or a governor or senator
or part of the system that is destroying the biosphere.She’s an outsider, alright. Not an insider. Doesn’t bother me a bit.
It aint that hard to be President of the United States. George Bush did it for eight years.
I think a wise, compassionate, critical-thinker
could somehow muddle through, with help.w
vwvParticipantTYT (The Young Turks for the less internet media savvy, a progressive online news channel that has recently crossed 4 Billion views on YouTube) recently ran a poll for Sanders supporters on their app and in their YouTube video. With over 20,000 responses, the verdict was 17% would vote for Hillary, 83% Never Hillary.
The hosts were shocked at the disparity. They’ve discounted the validity of the “lesser of two evils” argument over and over, but I don’t think they thought their viewers really took it to heart.
Also, a vote for Jill Stein isn’t wasted. If we can get her to 15%, that puts her on the national stage.
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Yeah, I’m wondering what the numbers show. I’m wondering what percentage of Bernie voters would have to vote for Jill to torpedo Clinton ?
I would guess this election is going to be very close. Just guessing.
So, it probably wont take a very high percentage of Bernie voters turning to the Green Party to give Donald Trump the Presidency of the United States.
Zooey was noting how awful the Dem-Rep choice is this time around. But think about it — is it REALLY that different than in past years? Really? Are Trump-the-billiaire-business-man and Clinton-the-insider all that different from the McCains and Kerrys and Bushs and Bill-Clintons and Obamas and Nixons etc? I dunno. I dont think they are that different. Trump has that outsiders ‘talk-radio’ demeanor but is he REALLY worse than GW ?
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vwvParticipantYou might go with that but art doesn’t. Art picks things up from the past and alters and recombines them. It just does..
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I dont think Art does. Or doesn’t. I dont think anyone can say what art “just does”.
Some does, some doesnt. Just depends on who is talking about it.
BT likes his myth-movies one narrow way. You like a broader spectrum of myth-movies.
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vRemember most of my declarations are based on history, not philosophy. I look at what happened and happens, and don’t compare it to some reasoned-to ideal.
And yeah art has always done that.
In fact Homer didn’t originate the epic of troy. He was one of the many who re-worked that story through the ages.
Maybe I could have put it this way—among the many things art has always done and still does, is (etc.)
And that’s just true.
So I embrace the history, and don’t care about the philosophical declarations about oughts and shoulds. I make history-based declarations about been theres and done thats.
What I say has absolutely nothing to do with what I like or don’t like. It is just true. Taken as a whole art is always re-doing things (among the other things it does.) That wasn’t supposed to mean every single individual artist in every single art does that. BUT taken as a whole yes that always happens and always will happen.
Where I disagree is that I don’t think the fact that that is always happening means the later guys have to stay clear of what the earlier guys did or they will be reprimanded. I always just look around and say, yeah well different people are always doing that, so what.
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Well, I’m talking about posting, really. How to post. How not to post.So, i will bow out of this thread.
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vwvParticipantYou might go with that but art doesn’t. Art picks things up from the past and alters and recombines them. It just does..
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I dont think Art does. Or doesn’t. I dont think anyone can say what art “just does”.
Some does, some doesnt. Just depends on who is talking about it.
BT likes his myth-movies one narrow way. You like a broader spectrum of myth-movies.
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vJune 9, 2016 at 11:57 am in reply to: leave Hillary out of it in THIS thread…in his own terms, what is Trump #45739wvParticipantI probly dont worry ‘quite’ as much about him as most leftist
cause i know the system wont let him do a lot of what he wants to do.That’s what they used to say at first in Maine about LePage.
People don’t say that anymore.
You would be amazed at how much someone can do. And get away with.
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I know that is your thing, but Trump is not Lepage,
and the Nation is not Maine. So, while i see the analogy,
i also dont quite see the ‘sameness’ to it.I mean why do you think Trump is Lepage and Lepage is Trump? Why?
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vwvParticipanthttp://www.zimbio.com/quiz/hpbWxCCmzMR/Game+Thrones+Character
I am in the same quadrant with Stalin, Gandhi and John Snow.
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vJune 9, 2016 at 11:36 am in reply to: leave Hillary out of it in THIS thread…in his own terms, what is Trump #45736wvParticipantTrump is not that complicated to me. He is, first and foremost–a con man. He will be whatever he has to be to win. …
But he will seek his personal interests above all else….
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Who is Donald Trump and what does he want?
A con man who wants what is best for Trump.
Everyone else can have what is left.
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I dunno. I dont really see him as a con man. I mean not anymore than
any other national Dem or Rep.I tend to see him more like i saw Palin or Quayle or Reagan — I think he actually
believes in most of what he is saying. I dont think he is ‘self-reflective’ and i think he
has a pretty simple, black and white, simplistic view of the world. A business-peson’s view.
In a way its kindof Norman-Rockwell-ish. If Norman painted modern billionaire robber-barrons.Whatever he is, he is more Pat Buchannon than William F Buckley.
But he’s not Pat Buchannon either. He’s got a bit of Jerry Springer in him.
I probly dont worry ‘quite’ as much about him as most leftist
cause i know the system wont let him do a lot of what he wants to do.w
vJune 9, 2016 at 11:27 am in reply to: leave Hillary out of it in THIS thread…in his own terms, what is Trump #45734wvParticipantWell there’s been five posts so far — six including mine — and no-one has said anything about actual real Trump POLICIES. I dont think thats an accident.
Reagan got elected by being vague on real, actual policies. He just kinda tapped into…somethin…’shining cities on hills’ and stuff.
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vMy post answered each question. I addressed his policy regarding ILLEGAL immigration and its effect on the US worker. Could have addressed its effect upon the US taxpayer but that wouldn’t have mattered with you.
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Yeah, Immigration seems to be a core fundamental issue to Trump.He talks about it a great deal. I dont watch tv or watch the ‘news’ much so I’m
just beginning to see how important that issue is to Republicans. Does Hillary talk about Immigration as much as Trump?w
vJune 9, 2016 at 11:22 am in reply to: For liberals and conservatives, ideology trumps scientific consensus… #45733wvParticipantI dont think much of that article.
The writer actually equates denying the evidence of climate change, or evolution
with being against using animals in research?That is apples and oranges. Or apples and ethics.
I mean, one category is simply denying or ignoring scientific evidence/consensus.
And the other category has nothing to do with denying scientific evidence. Its simply arguing science takes a backseat to compassion for animals. Now whether you agree or disagree with animal-activists, you cant equate them to evolution deniers.
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vwvParticipantGaines is the first to admit that a position room without Jenkins has taken some getting used to. He said Jenkins was the jokester of the room and the leader he and his teammates followed
——————-Didnt know JJ was thot of as a ‘leader’.
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vwvParticipantOne would think a swarm of food, would mean
more birds. Flocks of fat birds.But no. I have hardly seen any birds since the beasts
began to rise from the Earth.w
vwvParticipantBut the truly unforgivable, grand-canyon-sized hole in my movie life is due to the absence of one about Cuchulain (pronounced, Cu-hool-in), the Irish Achilles. I have no idea why Hollywood hasn’t gone there. They could go back to Sutcliff for that, too, with her Hound of Ulster. Or Morgan Llywelyn’s Red Branch. Or much further back in time to Lady Gregory’s Cuchulain of Muirthemne
But make it they must!!
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“….The female characters are vivid and self-motivated. The saga is overlaid with episodes which could be echoes of ancient myths, for instance the story of the two shapeshifting swineherds. There are sections of great poetry embedded in the text, particularly the lament of Emer on Cuchulain’s death.”
Shapeshifting Swineherds?
There’s a political joke in there somewhere.
I always liked reading about myths and legends when i was young,
but so far, i haven’t seen Hollywood do that stuff very well.
Show me a sword in a movie, and I’ll show you a
bad movie. Just my opinion.w
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