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wvParticipantCritical thinking: For the most part — with exceptions — I think the left champions this and the right is highly suspicious — though the center-left is far less robust in this than those further to the left. That said, all parts of the political spectrum have their blind spots, but I think the right blocks grand-canyon views.
One blind spot I’ve see for the center left is the idea of empire. I’ve spoken with countless liberals who refuse to accept the idea that America is an empire, and most take for granted that our wars — with Iraq and Vietnam as possible exceptions — have been just. That our actions in all of those “good wars” have been justified. That we’re pretty much always “the good guys.”
Strangely enough, I’ve spoken with righties who admit to our empire, but they’re happy about it and want it to grow even more powerful. In a sense, on that subject at least, they appear less “naive” and more “realistic” about America than center-lefties. But the disturbing part of their view is they cheer this on and want America to project its power more aggressively, and they all too often seem indifferent to the lives lost and the destruction creating in the wake of that projection.
But on matters of science? I think that’s one of the biggest fault lines between left and right in America. I don’t know how it is in other countries, but it seems that the right is pretty much anti-science and the left supports evidence/fact-based research, etc. etc. Not blindly. But lefties tend to respect the process. Righties tend to think its a conspiracy by “elites” to take control over their lives — as if capitalism hasn’t already done that.
I agree with every bit of that.
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This could all be solved if scientists were required to
have the Ten Commandments in their laboratories.w
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“These Idolators! These priests of evil-lution!”
Inherit the Wind“Ya know it frightens me to think of the state of learning in this world of everybody had your driving curiosity”
Inherit the WindwvParticipantTrump Quotes:https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/trump-comments-on-science-are-shockingly-ignorant/
Just read through these. I especially liked the one on fracking, myself.
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vwvParticipantWell i imagine a lot of fans are gonna say this just proves Fisher is a lousy QB guru.
I dunno anything about Sam in Philly cause i dont pay any attention to him,
but my biggest concern with Sam will always be durability. It wont do Philly any good
if he’s Great for eight games and then gets hurt again.So, my response would be ask me again after he’s played sixteen games in a row.
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vwvParticipantWV,
So, what’s Kingsley like in real life? Is he as interesting in person as he is on film?
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Well, he didnt really talk about himself, but i thot his thots about the film were fascinating.This is it, btw:
wvParticipantsomethin i read, fwiw:
link:https://www.publicintegrity.org/2016/10/17/20330/journalists-shower-hillary-clinton-campaign-cash?utm_source=email&utm_campaign=watchdog&utm_medium=publici-email&goal=0_ffd1d0160d-9567d30c7c-100386029&mc_cid=9567d30c7c&mc_eid=cdb5d77305
Journalists shower Hillary Clinton with campaign cash
Far fewer making contributions to Donald Trump, analysis shows…In all, people identified in federal campaign finance filings as journalists, reporters, news editors or television news anchors — as well as other donors known to be working in journalism — have combined to give more than $396,000 to the presidential campaigns of Clinton and Trump, according to a Center for Public Integrity analysis.
Nearly all of that money — more than 96 percent — has benefited Clinton: About 430 people who work in journalism have, through August, combined to give about $382,000 to the Democratic nominee, the Center for Public Integrity’s analysis indicates….”
wvParticipantMake People Think AGAIN? Did they ever think-critically?
That article was full of interesting paragraphs. My first reaction was to think about all the OTHER areas I wish Americans would ‘think’ about. I mean, its not just Science. Americans dont know shit about Colonialism, Corporotocracy, Propaganda, CIA, NSA, Capitalism, HISTORY, etc, etc.
It aint just that they deny science. Its way worse than that.
Of all the areas they are clueless about, i think Science is the one where there is still hope. I mean, Chomsky used to talk a lot about the fact that the “system” needs to be able to churn out good engineers and scientists and technologist, but at the same time it needs them to be blind about US History, and Corporate-Capitalism, etc. Its only been recently that the interests of Big-Corporations have diverged from that situation. Nowadays, the BigCorpse dont even want the voters to understand science….
On a separate issue, do professors really teach that “science is just another narrative” that might be right or wrong? I mean, in a way it is, but its still the best approach we have for dealing with the day-to-day-physical-world.
“….Those on the left are more inclined to accept the evidentiary conclusions from biological and environmental science but they are not immune to antiscience attitudes themselves. There, scientifically discredited fears that vaccines cause autism have led to a liberal anti-vaccination movement, endangering public health. Fears that GMO (genetically modified) food is unsafe to eat, equally unsupported, propel a national labeling movement. Fears that cell phones cause brain cancer or wi-fi causes health problems or water fluoridation can lower IQ, none supported by science, also largely originate from the political left.
Much of this comes from suspicions of so-called regulatory capture, in which government agencies align themselves with corporate interests, a danger the Green Party candidate, Jill Stein, raised in her answer to ScienceDebate.org about vaccination. These suspicions are not always unfounded, and if one can’t trust the impartiality of government safety regulations, the avoidance principle becomes the default position and science is denied on the basis that it’s corporate PR. This was well illustrated by a 2011 battle in San Francisco, where the board of supervisors, all of them Democrats, voted 10–1 to require cell phone shops to warn customers that they may cause brain cancer (an ordinance that was widely criticized and later repealed). The difference is that although those on the left seek to extend regulations based on fears that are not always supported by science, those on the right oppose regulations that are.
Such confirmation bias has been enabled by a generation of university academics who have taught a corrosive brand of postmodernist identity politics that argues truth is relative, and that science is a “meta-narrative”—a story concocted by the ruling white male elite in order to retain power—and therefore suspect. The claims of science, these academics argue, are no more privileged than any other “way of knowing,” such as black truth, female truth or indigenous truth. We can’t know, a Minneapolis professor recently argued, that Earth goes around the sun, for example, because these sorts of worldviews have been dislodged by paradigm shifts throughout history. Thus, each of us constructs our own truth, and the job of an educator or a journalist is to facilitate that process of discovery.
The ideas of postmodernism align well with the identity politics of the left, and they have helped to empower disadvantaged voices, which always adds to the conversation. But what works in this case for political discourse is demonstrably false when applied to science. A scientific statement stands independent of the gender, sexual orientation, ethic background, religion or political identity of the person taking the measurement. That’s the whole point. It’s tied to the object being measured, not the subject doing the measuring….”
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vOctober 20, 2016 at 8:51 am in reply to: Informal poll: will the Rams beat the GIANTS in London? #55639wvParticipantAre Quinn and Brockers playing? Hard to picture the Rams winning without them.
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This.
And not just playing, but playing-healthy.
Really big game for both wildcard contenders.
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vwvParticipantbtw, i was watching the old movie Gandhi with Ben Kingsley (whose comments in the bonus features section were fascinating)…and for some reason i was thinking of gandhi while i was reading about Trump:
“…In 2011, he addressed the National Achievers Congress in Sydney, Australia, to explain how he had achieved his success. He noted there were a couple of lessons not taught in business school that successful people must know. At the top of the list was this piece of advice: “Get even with people. If they screw you, screw them back 10 times as hard. I really believe it.”
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/10/donald-trump-obsessed-with-revengew
vwvParticipantI have been told several times that Trump will win.
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I wonder if Trump voters will blame that Libertarian guy for the defeat,
the way Gore people blamed Nader.w
vwvParticipantI was at least impressed that he understood the root of the current problem though…Western intervention.
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Yeah, me too. But think about it. Think about how low our expectations have become, when we are ‘impressed’ that a well-known-politico isnt totally wrong about everything. Sigh.
Jesse probly has a better overall grasp of foreign policy and history than
the “experienced” Hillary does. Though I’m sure she knows more about
the current names and faces and details of agreements etc. But Jess has a better
grasp of the big ugly picture, and a better moral compass as well.w
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wvParticipantIve looked at that vid twenty times, and I just dont think Gurley scores
even if he cuts to his left and follows Brown. I think that Lion player flying in from the
right would get him, cause he’s not being blocked very well either.If GRobinson thot Gurley was supposed to run to the left, one would think he ‘wanted’ the
DT to stay on GR’s right side. But obviously he didnt want to blow right by him.w
vwvParticipantI actually liked a lot of what he said especially when he said the problems in the Middle East are largely the result of western intervention and that we should ‘own’ that.
He did lose me at the end when he said the election is fixed. That’s tinfoil hat stuff. But of course he’s right that the system is rigged in favor of the two major parties.
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I liked what he said about the mid east too, until he got to the part where he said the US was trying to “build democracies” in a region that didnt have a clue about how to have democracy.I would have liked to explain to him that the US version of “creating democracy” means, they tell the CIA to pour millions of dollars into a region, and conduct every kind of murderous tricks imaginable so that the “approved” leader gets “elected”. Such as Chalabi in Iraq.
And heck they only go with the “democracy” plan when they prettymuch ‘have’ to. Blah blah blah.Jesse still thinks the mighty-Empire “means well” i guess. Naive.
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vwvParticipant“This is a volatile mix of Beckham’s explosive personality and the dirtiest team in the league. Things could get so ugly passports might be revoked. The reputations of Beckham and the Rams have only taken further hits since they last met.”
Yeah when i read other teams’ message boards, that is the reputation
the Rams have now. Dirtiest team in the league.And seven-and-nine bullshit team, of course.
I wonder if its true that they are the dirtiest team in the league?
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vwvParticipantYeah, i agree with you on that, comrad.
I was surprised that i agreed with ‘anything’ Jesse Ventura said, but i did
agree with several things he emphasized. I was surprised he had intended to support Bernie at one point. I always thought of Jesse as a rightwing-libertarian at heart.As far as military bases go, yeah, i forgot just how many the US-Empire has.
I’ve always wanted to read a book about the history of the US Base in Cuba. I imagine its a pretty ugly history.
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vOctober 18, 2016 at 10:36 pm in reply to: "Vote all you want. The secret government wont change #55575wvParticipantI thot this paragraph deserved a post of itz own:
“….GLENNON: The ultimate problem is the pervasive political ignorance on the part of the American people. And indifference to the threat that is emerging from these concealed institutions. That is where the energy for reform has to come from: the American people. Not from government. Government is very much the problem here. The people have to take the bull by the horns. And that’s a very difficult thing to do, because the ignorance is in many ways rational. There is very little profit to be had in learning about, and being active about, problems that you can’t affect, policies that you can’t change.”
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vwvParticipantWell, maybe the big WR’s are stretching the field at least in ‘part’ BECAUSE
they throw short stuff to Tavon from time to time.w
vwvParticipantI like where this O is going and believe when Goff is ready to step in he’s gonna have an O that is ready. Starting him day 1 made no sense…that was the right call by Fish, and not a surprise since he’s done it before.
The D is a different story, IMO. They really aren’t attacking the QB like they have. I’m seeing more cover 2 than I have seen from GW.
I think he is attempting to cover for areas…first EJ was down and Sensabough was starting outside Tru…well, we know he wasn’t hangin then when EJ comes back Tru get’s hurt. So…are the DB’s hurting this group? I say yes and that’s the reason GW is reluctant to throw the sink at the QB.
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Yeah i agree with that.…and i dont even wanna think about how bad Goff woulda looked if he had been in that 49er game.
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vwvParticipantIf Jesus is real then why is there so much misery in the world? If there is a loving god, then explain the Rams.
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“If there is a god, he will have to beg my forgiveness.”
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Look dont blame Jesus for everything. Remember, the Devil is responsible for calling a lot of the plays.
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“We have never heard the devil’s side of the story, God wrote all the book.”
― Anatole FrancewvParticipantTypical scriptural fundamentalist. You take a text from the Apocrypha, and twist its meaning.
Jesus did NOT say the kingdom is inside the tackles, or outside the tackles.
He said inside of you, or outside of you.
Plainly, he meant that the Touchdown is both Inside you, and Outside you. It’s a state of mind AND a place.
He never said anything about how to reach the end zone kingdom. Well, he did. But not in Thomas.
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You are saying Jesus never said anything about how to reach the end zone ?Then why does Fisher even pray to him?
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Jesus Quintana: Let me tell you something, pendejo. You pull any of your crazy shit with us, you flash a piece out on the lanes, I’ll take it away from you, stick it up your ass and pull the fucking trigger ’til it goes “click.”The Dude: Jesus.
Jesus Quintana: You said it, man. Nobody fucks with the Jesus.
===========wvParticipantBack to the point I made somewhere else that you guys are too idiotic to realize was the Holy Truth…
The Rams haven’t been able to run up the middle all year.
Ya run ANY play at ALL except up the middle right there….And Jesus would agree with me, although I’ve heard he is more of a basketball guy…with Jews being so naturally shifty, and everything.
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Well, in the Gospel of Thomas, Jesus clearly states one can reach the ‘kingdom’ by going outside OR inside.“The Kingdom is inside of you and it is outside of you.” ~Gospel of Thomas
So the notion that Fisher is a heretic for attempting an offtackle play, and should be burned at the stake, flies right in the face of the scriptures.
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“Scrutamini scripturas. [let us look at the scriptures] Two words that have undone the world.”
John Selden (1584-1654)wvParticipantI think it was a perfectly reasonable call to try to power the ball in
from six inches away.But myself, i woulda let Keenum roll out with a run/pass option. Gurley woulda bee a decoy.
I would never trust the interior of the Rams OLine at this point.I cant picture bill Walsh calling an offtackle play in that situation, btw.
Or Jesus, for that matter.
I always ask myself what play would Bill Walsh or Jesus call?w
vwvParticipantThat is interesting.
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Yeah Keenum doesnt have the quick release coupled with the big-arm to throw darts into tight windows consistently.And no, he’s not a franchise starting NFL QB.
But I think its worth remembering he’s still really inexperienced. I mean how many actual NFL games has he played? And how many in this system? He’s still learning and getting comfortable and getting the timing down. You can see him growing from week to week.
And man, IF HE HAS TIME, he can toss a beautiful rainbow. And he’s tough, and competitive.Jeff Garcia-ish.
Goff Time will come. And then we’ll see the future. But for now, Keenum is what we got.
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vwvParticipantI’ve still only watched the first half, but i wanted to say something about Mr Britt — He’s arrived.
I swear, I’ve never thought he used his power/strength in the past. But in that first he finally looked like a guy that played to his size. And he did some subtle things too. Like the way he caught a long pass but didnt give away when the ball was coming to him. He just let it drop right in his breadbasket. Ala, Roberto Clemente.
Even Quick made a tough catch without bobbling the ball or fighting it. If these two keep gaining confidence, it will be fun to watch.
Who knows what Spruce and Cooper would add to that.
Granted the Lions suck on D, but still this is how players gain confidence
and we know Quick has confidence issues.Anyway think how far the offense has come sine the forty-niner game. Think about that.
I dont think they have ‘that’ far to go now. Just a ‘little’ more improvement in the run game and one fewer bonehead throws by Case per game… course now, the defense is Quinn-less and Tru-less….so there’s that.
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Those 2 receptions and the aftermath were very impressive
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Yeah, i saw those. Great stuff. That was as good a game by a Ram WR as i can remember, since….?
We all know he’s not a route-runner like, say, Torry, but now that he has a QB who can throw deep, I think we are seeing Britt’s value more.
I dunno where you came from, btw, but you are a great poster. I read all your posts. Stick around. This is a small group of outcasts and misfits we have here, but
we make up for it by being…um…easily confused.w
vwvParticipantI thought this was an interesting view of Keenum, by brownsugar.
Fwiw, I thought Keenum just showed awesome accuracy on the long ball yesterday.
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Keenum is not making the quick throws in to 2 ultra tight contested windows that the modern offense requires. Against the ultra soft Lion defense he was awesome until the last throw. And, He ‘set up’ every play in the Detroit game…at an Manning-like level. But, Detroit doesn’t have a typical defense…so, so bad…and bad coverage LB etc.So, against teams like AZ and Seattle and the Vikings Case will not get those chances very often….and the throws at 2.3 seconds with tight windows are not even attempted in this offense, because that isn’t Case’s game—nor is it our WRs strengths (Britt is ok at this as compared to Jordy Nelson, for ex) ; but tight windows are Goff’s specialty—and that is a red zone expertise. Case can’t do that, and so he has to wait for guys to get open or be open 5 yards off the line of scrimmage—which sometimes fails, too (see Buffalo int). Case is a great college QB…or a great 1970s offense QB. But, in our era, with these fast defenses, Case will get old fast in the coming weeks.
Fran Tarkenton had the same problem his last 2 years (1978-79) that Case has . Tarkenton threw a lot of interceptions (25+ ints) because his arm couldn’t get in to any tight windows—he had a noodle arm at age 39 with 185 lbs (estimates). Tarkenton actually ran the first spread offense in the NFL—guys were wide open a lot because no one saw that kind of offense before. This is kinda like Case in the Detroit game…..guys running with 2 steps on the defender, and this is very rare in the NFL. DOn’t expect that type of game the rest of the year from Case…..or Britt/Kendricks. That is why SF beat us—they knew what to avoid, and Case didn’t have confidence (“seeing ghosts”winking smiley.
My goal is to be objective, not homerish.
Our offense won’will get better. Tavon still will improve and so will Gurley. And, IF Higbee ever starts doing something then Kendricks will really be open a lot. Britt however will be stopped….and though he is a physical freak, technique can stop that pretty easily. Quick is getting better, but come on, all those patterns in the Detroit game were great run after catch situations (yac), not great patterns….Quick might become good, but he has a long way to go. Britt has 3 patterns he runs very well, the 9, the seam-corner and the quick slant….he isn’t a Torry Holt pattern runner….and a good corner can take out those pretty easily (Janoris couln’t handle the 9 very well). Speaking of Janoris: wow, we need this game, and we need to beat him on those 9s!!!! Fisher I am sure has a special plan to confuse Janoris on assignments to get Britt 1 step past him…
On the other hand, I am excited for Britt to get to 1,000 yards! That would be the my biggest surprise of the year….he was this awesome in 2011 before his knee injury. His physical skill is not surprising.
wvParticipantI got to give it to WVU. They are playing well. Undefeated and all. I saw they were talking about them slot on ESPN, but the problem the announcers said was will they take an undefeated Big XII team over a one loss Louisville team? I think the Big XII needs Baylor and WVU to finish undefeated before playing each other. Need them undefeated going into that game. Do you think that your school can keep it up?
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I dont take them seriously, Jack. I expect them to be playing some 7-9-bullshit
very soon.They aint played anybody yet.
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vwvParticipantI thought the running game looked just fine in the first half. Havent watched the second half.
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vOkay. But. Do we have ourselves a theory? Yes? No? Thotz?
Also…Jack called you out in a post below. It’s high noon. Time to face the music. When the going gets tough, the tough use tenderizer.
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Well I’m sticking to the lone gunman theory.
…I think its pretty obvious they were un-gelled at the beginning of the year,
and now they are getting in sync. I think the offense will be fine. They are healthy and improving. And this is with a backup QB. Seems encouraging to me.You already know what i think of the D — Without Quinn and Tru, its gonna be a struggle.
GW is gonna have to create pressure somehow and thats gonna lead to big running lanes.Brockers and Hayes looked terrible to me, btw. I dont think they should have even played.
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wvParticipantThat was good.
Case had such a good game — until it counted, in the clutch.
They were gonna have to complete a medium pass at some point, but
I woulda preferred he hit the open RB on that play, and then spike the ball.
They didnt need a TD. They had plenty of time to get in legatron’s range.I just think they got a tad impatient.
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vwvParticipantI am now completely convinced of this, even though it wasn’t the running game that improved, it was the passing game.
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vwvParticipantWell, I’m getting fed up, too. Apart from 99-03, this team has pretty much sucked for 25 years…
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Yeah this was a big loss for a lot of fans. For various reasons this one really had
an impact on a lot of fans.….this would NOT be a good time to lay an egg in London. Ya know.
W.Hayes said they ‘played soft’ all over the field Sunday. He said they were not ‘flat’ but they played ‘soft’. I would think that probly means they are gonna come out chippy and furious against NYG. For better or worse, i think it will be a chippy, ugly, physical War.
They are NOT gonna be ‘soft’ next week. …i look for Sims to get tossed out early 🙂w
vwvParticipantI’ve still only watched the first half, but i wanted to say something about Mr Britt — He’s arrived.
I swear, I’ve never thought he used his power/strength in the past. But in that first he finally looked like a guy that played to his size. And he did some subtle things too. Like the way he caught a long pass but didnt give away when the ball was coming to him. He just let it drop right in his breadbasket. Ala, Roberto Clemente.
Even Quick made a tough catch without bobbling the ball or fighting it. If these two keep gaining confidence, it will be fun to watch.
Who knows what Spruce and Cooper would add to that.
Granted the Lions suck on D, but still this is how players gain confidence
and we know Quick has confidence issues.Anyway think how far the offense has come sine the forty-niner game. Think about that.
I dont think they have ‘that’ far to go now. Just a ‘little’ more improvement in the run game and one fewer bonehead throws by Case per game… course now, the defense is Quinn-less and Tru-less….so there’s that.
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