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wvParticipantI’m not worried about Goff yet. How is he supposed to ‘lead’ or show leadership
when he’s having so much trouble learning the system, etc.At some point in the future, the Rams will have a good QB. I truly believe that.
It probably wont happen in our lifetimes, but still.
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vOctober 26, 2016 at 3:49 pm in reply to: informal poll: will the Rams win or lose during bye week? #56122wvParticipantI dunno about the bye, but i guarantee the Rams are gonna win two in a row,
starting with the Panthers. And they are gonna leap past 7-9-BS,
and begin playing 8-8-BS.Call me a crazy optimist. I’m tellin ya. WE are seeing the beginning stages of
a 5-4 football team.w
vwvParticipantPart of being a game manager is limiting mistakes…he has to be better with his decision making IMO.
I still look at all the games this year and they have been in every one of them except the niner game…this team is close and still not firing on all cylinders…tells me they are underperforming.
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Well said.I’d also add, that ‘because’ they are not firing on all cylinders and underperforming,
there is hope. Cause those things can change.w
vwvParticipantWell i saw a utube clip that showed who Negan kilt.
Damn.
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vwvParticipantSarah Silverman on ‘arrogant ignorance’
October 25, 2016 at 10:34 am in reply to: Fred Roggin of NBC says Fisher has four games to prove himself… #56058wvParticipantAll i know is, it is unique — I mean that literally — unique — that we have a situation where an NFL coach has had four losing seasons in a row, and now has a losing record in his fifth season, and there is talk of “extending” his contract.
Anybody ever remember anything like that before in the NFL ?
I dont.
In a weird way it gives me a perverse little inner smile. I dunno why.
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vwvParticipantI think zooey’s original post was great. Great questions and commentary.
Personally, i dont have it all figured out. It seems there’s a different problem every week.
One week the D plays well but the O falters. Another week the O looks great and the D gives up too much. There have been times the running game actually worked, btw — in the first half at Detroit it was working.I guess its a lot of things.
Out of syncness at times. Probly due to offensive changes.
Playing a quality back-up QB.
Quinn, Brockers and Hayes playing hurt or not playing at all (think about that one, long and hard),
Tru being out cost them big in at least one and maybe two games.
The Mystery of this OLine — who is GRob? Why cant they runblock anymore?
The Move also probably affected them in that first game, at least.
Flat-out Personnel weaknesses — Tavon’s weaknesses (bad hands) cost them big-time in the Giant game. Quick will never be Jerry Rice. Britt is up and down.And then there’s Jeff Fisher. Its year five. What do we make of him and his coaching this year? I dunno.
They could easily be 5-2 this year if you subtract a pick6 here and a penalty there, etc.
But, ya know, we say that every year.One peculiar aspect of all this is — this is not the team of the future. Whatever we say about this team, wont be true next year, cause this is the year of Keenum. And next year is the year of Goff. This is just an odd year, a transition year.
They can still be a lowlevel playoff team if they eliminate one or two dum plays per game, and if Quinn, Brockers, Hayes get healthy, and Tru comes back. They can still do it.
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vwvParticipantJeezus, people — this is pumpkin pie time. Halloween is Pumpkin pie time.
Thanksgiving is Apple pie time.
You people are out of sync.
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vwvParticipantThis team got shut out by the 49ers. The 1-6 49ers.
Let that one sink in, folks.
That alone is a big reason Fisher hasn’t signed the extension.
As for yesterday, what a frustrating game. Same old shit. Penalties, AWOL running game. Shaky game management.
Once again, defeat at the hands of an inferior opponent.
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It sucked alright. The last three games have been ugly, for sure.
But they are a play or two away from being 5-2. Ya know. A pick6 here, a tipped ball there.
So, maybe there is still some hope for this miserable situation. Maybe.
Nine more games. Carolina is a must win. They have two weeks to prepare. Fisher has a way of jerking us around, as his teams lurch back and forth. Maybe this time they lurch a little bit more in the Win column. We’ll see.
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wvParticipantWow, that was clever in I don’t know how many ways.
Exactly. I was expecting it to go in a different direction.
Instead it went in a “we are all in this together” direction.
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vwvParticipantI’m going to be very blunt here, and I don’t mean to offend anyone. It’s just my 2 cents.
Along with thinking that firing Fisher would be a mistake…
…I know this is just me and I won’t fight about it and campaign and so on, but I have found over the years that “which coach to hire” discussions among fans on the net are pretty much useless. No one knows enough to offer anything more than superficial and/or quirky ideas. The ones who insist they know more are invariably no better than people who just wing it for the sake of conversation.
In fact if we all put up our old “who to hire” posts from years past again, it would make for good comic relief. With no exceptions. The same goes with the talking heads and sports writers we get our info on this from. I doubt there is a single journalist out there with a credible “hit” record when it comes to guessing who would make a consistent winning head coach.
Don’t take that personally. It’s just that no one is in a position to know enough, and even those who are in the league and in a position to know enough get it wrong far more often than not.
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Well I think almost all of us agree about all that.This is just a lite and silly thread.
So get with it.
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vwvParticipantThat was very good.
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vwvParticipantDV with Martz as OC.
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vwvParticipantDid i just hear Randy Moss talking about the proper way to
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vwvParticipantIf your players that have been together a while now are still not communicating properly in the 7th game don’t point at them, either coach them up or get rid of them and bring in teachable players put your fucking finger away.
When he said that about the receivers, he was standing up for Keenum. That’s all that was.
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Zack let me ask you something — if Fisher goes 7 and 9 this year, with Keenum,
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vwvParticipantI wonder if Jesus liked science?
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Noam Chomsky on the Perils of Market-Driven Education
link:http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/38066-noam-chomsky-on-the-perils-of-market-driven-education“…An educated public is surely a prerequisite for a functioning democracy — where “educated” means not just informed but enabled to inquire freely and productively, the primary end of education. That goal is sometimes advanced, sometimes impeded, in actual practice, and to shift the balance in the right direction is a major task — a task of unusual importance in the United States, in part because of its unique power, in part because of ways in which it differs from other developed societies.
It is important to remember that although the richest country in the world for a long time, until World War II, the US was something of a cultural backwater. If one wanted to study advanced science or math, or to become a writer and artist, one would often be attracted to Europe. That changed with World War II for obvious reasons, but only for part of the population. To take what is arguably the most important question in human history, how to deal with climate change, one impediment is that in the US, 40 percent of the population sees it as no problem because Christ will return within the next few decades — symptomatic of many other pre-modern features of the society and culture….”
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“..It is worth remembering the early years of the industrial revolution. The working-class culture of the time was alive and flourishing. There’s a great book about the topic by Jonathan Rose, called The Intellectual Life of the British Working Class. It’s a monumental study of the reading habits of the working class of the day. He contrasts “the passionate pursuit of knowledge by proletarian autodidacts” with the “pervasive philistinism of the British aristocracy.” Pretty much the same was true in the new working-class towns in the United States, like eastern Massachusetts, where an Irish blacksmith might hire a young boy to read the classics to him while he was working. Factory girls were reading the best contemporary literature of the day, what we study as classics. They condemned the industrial system for depriving them of their freedom and culture. This went on for a long time…”
wvParticipantPerhaps licking a cane toad?
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I think that would be a good way to watch the Rams this year.
Ya know. Have a little cane toad in a bowl next to the popcorn.Maybe britt was licking toads before the game.
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vwvParticipanti like keenum. he’s falling on the grenade as a leader should.
as far as the ints go, the receivers should be getting their asses chewed out. pay attention! especially on that last possession. good grief.
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The thing i want to know is — Is this offensive communication stuff “correctable”. Or not.
I mean they changed some stuff on offense, so is this just ‘learning curve’ stuff that they will at some point improve on? Or is this just bad coaching or players with low-football-IQs ?The WRs looked really good last week. This week it was up and down.
And what will Goff bring to this offense?
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wv you must be taking some weird drugs, or something is strange is in the water you are drinking in West Virginia. You are hallucinating if you think we are a wild card team, or even going in the right direction. I like you buddy, but I just don’t see it. Jeff Fisher is wasting the talent we have/had, and they will go somewhere else to be successful. Fisher has not done a good job of making this team better. We need to be a lot better that another 7-9 season.—————
The ayahuasca helps me see more CLEARLY, Jack.I’m tellin ya, i see somethin good emerging. Colorful, too.
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October 23, 2016 at 5:26 pm in reply to: Poll question…Who thinks Goff should start the rest of the season? #55889wvParticipantWell i was for Goff starting until i heard Fisher say some stuff about the WRs
being the reason for the INTs. I mean Tavon caused one. Looks like Quick may have caused one. I dunno about the other two.But it may be the Keenum and the Rams win that game, if the WRs do their jobs.
So, I dunno. Just depends on what Fisher is seeing in practice. We dunno what Goff is doing in practice.
I’m ok either way. Start him or dont.
I DO know things will be more FUN for me as a fan, when Goff plays.
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vwvParticipant3-4 is still in the hunt…maybe a bit of a longshot but still in the hunt.
9 games to go and we can look back at 2-3 of those losses that could have easily been wins…just turn those around the 2nd half and get on a run.
If a team get’s hot and builds confidence they can roll of 3, 4, 5 wins in a row.
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Yup. They can still go 12-4 🙂
Teams like the Rams (mediocre-wildcard-level) are always a play or two
from winning three or four in a row. I mean, a play here a play there
and they beat the Giants and the Lions and are sitting at 5-2.That doesn’t mean i think they are a ‘good’ team, but they are
a slowly emerging team, imho. I think they are headed in the right direction.
I think. I wont fight about it 🙂I would think the Bye would help. One would think that. Ya know.
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vwvParticipantLost in all this, is the fact that the Giants got to play the Rams
on a neutral field.IF they play at home, in LA….who knows?
As dismal and mediocre and boring as this Ram team is, 3-4 is
still on the cusp of the last playoff berth.It aint over. I know a LOT of folks are in furious-fire-everyone mode,
but its hardly beyond reason to think they might win two in a row
and find themselves at 5-4.Next game is a Must-Win though. If they go two games under .500 they are toast.
Next game is a playoff game.
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vwvParticipantthey’re missing a running game.
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Keenum threw it over 50 times today. Not exactly the ‘balance’
they are looking for, i would think.Two lower-end-wildcard teams playing mediocre ball today. Ah well.
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vwvParticipantThey’ve lost three big games in a row.
The season is ‘not’ over yet. Next game is a must-win though.
They are just… missing something. Could it be a QB ?
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wvParticipant… environmental degradation have upped the stakes to a critical level, and we are tipping towards the drain, and I can’t think of one single reason to hope that the slide will be anything other than a Cormac McCarthy nightmare.
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Shoot Zooey, Hillary and the Dems will fix things.
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vlink:https://theintercept.com/2016/10/19/democratic-sen-chuck-schumer-says-top-priority-for-next-year-is-giant-corporate-tax-cut/
New York Sen. Chuck Schumer, likely to be majority leader next year if Democrats take back the Senate, told CNBC Tuesday that one of his top two 2017 priorities would be an enormous corporate tax cut.Speaking of himself in the third person, Schumer said that “we’ve got to get things done…
……For his part, Schumer has long been negotiating with Ohio Republican Sen. Rob Portman to lay the groundwork for such a corporate-friendly deal.While Massachusetts Democrat Sen. Elizabeth Warren has called such a scheme “a giant wet kiss for the tax dodgers,” Schumer told CNBC that he’d have no trouble getting her on board. “She’s going to surprise everybody,” Schumer said. “She’s going to be both a progressive and a constructive force.”
=============Democracy Deferred: Ohio Removes Anti-Fracking Measures From County Ballots
link:http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/38063-democracy-deferred-ohio-removes-anti-fracking-measures-from-county-ballots
“…Ohioans are not nearly as conservative as their gerrymandered state legislature might have one think. To fight back, many progressive Ohioans are going local to make gains on issues like the minimum wage and fracking. For this reason, the local ballot initiative process — by which citizens write, petition for and vote on legislation — has taken on increased significance. But after years of local battles, the future of this basic mode of resistance is in jeopardy.This September, county-level “community bills of rights” in Medina, Portage, Athens and Meigs were removed from these Ohio counties’ respective ballots, despite all four gathering enough signatures to qualify for the ballot….”
================link:https://insideclimatenews.org/news/19102016/cafo-epa-regulations-factory-farms-get-bigger-pollution-grows-environmental-impact-methane
Factory Farms Get Bigger, Pollution Grows, but Regulators Don’t Even Know Where They Are
“If you look at the trajectory over the last 20 years, it’s going in one direction and it’s going there fast. It’s terrifying to watch,” said Abel Russ, an attorney with the Environmental Integrity Project, which has sued the EPA for CAFO information. “They just keep getting bigger and more concentrated. There’s no limiting factor.”==============
wvParticipantI wonder if the Rams really are the Dirtiest team in the NFL ?
7 and 9 ‘dirty’ Bullshit team ?
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vwvParticipantIs Trump the “first demagogue of the Anthropocene” ?
The Atlantic:https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2016/10/trump-the-first-demagogue-of-the-anthropocene/504134/
“…….So to now watch a demagogue contest the presidency, running a campaign that appeals to racism and xenophobia, has felt less like the sudden apparition of an unfathomable nightmare and more like the early realization of a seasonal forecast. You can hear the long-predicted gusts, the rain pounding on the roof and the groaning thunder. It’s all just happening four decades earlier than the weather person said.
So I want to propose a new way of understanding Donald Trump. He not only represents a white racial backlash, and he has not only opened the way for an American extension of the European far right. Insofar as his supporters are drawn to him by a sense of global calamity, and insofar as his rhetoric singles out the refugee as yet another black and brown intruder trying to violate the nation’s cherished borders, Trump is the first demagogue of the Anthropocene.
We should take Trump at his word when he calls Syrian refugees “one of the great Trojan horses,” or when his son bizarrely describes them as Skittles that “will kill you.” In Europe, Trump’s far-right kin have long blurred the differences between legal immigration, Islamist terrorism, and the refugees fleeting the Syrian War. After the Paris attacks last year, one leader of the French far-right National Front said, “Today, we can see that immigration has become favorable terrain for the development of Islamism.”
This xenophobia is grounded in real-life trends. I will focus on two in particular: moribund economic growth and the mass migration of non-white people. Both will likely intensify as the planet warms. (A third vital trend—the political and cultural upheaval of the U.S. racial hierarchy—will not vary with climate change.)
First, climate change could easily worsen the inequality that has already hollowed out the Western middle class. A recent analysis in Nature projected that the effects of climate change will reduce the average person’s income by 23 percent by the end of the century. The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency predicts that unmitigated global warming could cost the American economy $200 billion this century. (Some climate researchers think the EPA undercounts these estimates.)
Future consumers will not register these costs so cleanly, though—there will not be a single climate-change debit exacted on everyone’s budgets at year’s end. Instead, the costs will seep in through many sources: storm damage, higher power rates, real-estate depreciation, unreliable and expensive food. Climate change could get laundered, in other words, becoming just one more symptom of a stagnant and unequal economy. As quality of life declines, and insurance premiums rise, people could feel that they’re being robbed by an aloof elite.
They won’t even be wrong. It’s just that due to the chemistry of climate change, many members of that elite will have died 30 or 50 years prior….see link
October 21, 2016 at 7:10 pm in reply to: John Pilger: Why Hillary Clinton Is More Dangerous Than Donald Trump #55745wvParticipantI cant stand the sight of either one at this point. I cant stomach either one.
I just cant even compare’em anymore. She and her machine have it won now, though. So thats that.
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October 20, 2016 at 6:20 pm in reply to: Quinn expected to play against G-men? & injury updates thru 10/22 #55678wvParticipantI see William Hayes was full-participation too. So they have three of their top four Dlinemen back at full participation.
Sure would be nice to get Brockers back too.
I’m excited. They got a chance now.
Obviously they will miss Tru.
GW needs to coach his ass off in this one.
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vOctober 20, 2016 at 4:31 pm in reply to: Quinn expected to play against G-men? & injury updates thru 10/22 #55675wvParticipantYeah, they have a chance now.
Quinn and Donald are necessary ingredients if they are to pressure Eli.
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