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Active QBs who won a Ring as a starting QB:
(dunno if Flacco is still active)
Super Bowl 47: Joe Flacco (MVP), 3TDs
Super Bowl 48: Russell Wilson (Malcolm Smith), 2TDs
Super Bowl 49: Tom Brady (MVP), 4TDs
Super Bowl 51: Tom Brady (MVP), 2TDs
Super Bowl 52: Nick Foles (MVP), 3 TDs
Super Bowl 53: Tom Brady (Julian Edelman), 0TDs
Super Bowl 54: Patrick Mahomes (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 55: Tom Brady (MVP), 3 TDs==
Lotta talent retired in the last few years. Brees, Eli, Big-Ben, Peyton.
Super Bowl 40. Ben Roethlisberger (Hines Ward), 0 TDs
Super Bowl 41. Peyton Manning (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 42. Eli Manning (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 43: Ben Roethlisberger (Santonio Holmes), 1 TD
Super Bowl 44: Drew Brees (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 45: Aaron Rogers (MVP), 3TDs
Super Bowl 46: Eli Manning (MVP), 1 TDwvParticipantwv NFC on-paper-rankings at this stage:
1 Bucs
2 Rams / 49ers
3 Lions
4 Packers
5 Saints / Vikings
The top 8 or so, NFC teams are bunched. An injury here, and injury there changes everything. I ‘do’ think the Bucs have built the best team on paper, at this point.
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wvParticipantThe comment about Mahomes is interesting because I was thinking something similar about Kyler. I watched a vid of K. Murray and the talking heads were going on and on and on about one play he made where he ran around and made a ton of defenders miss and then he launched a strike to a WR. And the talking heads were saying he’s a ‘generational’ talent and very few humans could do such a thing etc.
And i used to be the same way. I’d see a Michael Vick play, or an RG3 play or Lamar Jackson, etc and I’d think, “OMG, this is a great QB, and they are gonna win a gazillion super bowls and the Rams will never have anyone like that…”
But then I started wising up. Because I started to understand, Yes, those guys can make spectacular plays. Incredible highlight plays. But what did they do on…the next play. And the next. And the next. We know what Tom Brady will do on the next play. And the next. He’ll carve you up. And so will Stafford.
So…I’m still impressed by the super-wild-keystone-cops plays. But I’m wiser now. I see that what matters MORE is can you make the clutch plays on third down, against TOP defenses, in the playoffs. Over and over. Clutch play after clutch play. Cuz thats what it usually takes.
I doubt Kyler Murray can do that. I kinda doubt Lamar Jackson can do it, either, but I dunno. Mahomes has already won a Ring. But the league may be catching up to him just a bit.
I’ll take Stafford over any of the spectacular-QBs at this point. As long as he’s healthy.
I still like QBs that can move, but the consistent pocket accuracy in the clutch has to be there. And its rare to have it ‘all’ — Like Roger Staubach. Or Steve Young.
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wvParticipantKyler aint allowed anymore TV.
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wvParticipantSigh. Well….the whole thing is appalling to me.
Prettymuch everything about the NFL , except the ‘game itself’ is appalling.
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wvParticipant🔔 We are in an information war
So many questions …
Chomsky: The US is living under a totalitarian culture much worse than Soviet Union
Soviet Russia could access BBC, Voice of America, German TV
Today 🇺🇸 are not permitted to hear what 🇷🇺 are saying
pic.twitter.com/k2Z13Wy4fN— Ignorance, the root and stem of all evil (@ivan_8848) July 23, 2022
wvParticipantI say, the Dee-troit Lions will win the black and blue division this year.
Why the hell not.
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wvParticipant…ranked every general manager in the NFL, he lumped Snead and McVay together – and he put them at the top of the list…
…There is room to improve. Of the draft picks the Rams do make, too many are Belichick-ian vanity projects. Tutu Atwell says hello…”
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I read the words Tutu Atwell, and its like I hear the words
Ni-Agra-Falls….
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wvParticipantAs always, these graphics and media lists never highlight the fact that Aaron F’ing Donald is doing all this on the INSIDE. His numbers should always be compared to other inside-defenders. The numbers are off the charts when comparing apples to apples.
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wvParticipantI just wouldnt want to get rid of Jimmy G at all this year, if were a 49er decider. They are in a win-Now mode if they keep both, for all the obvious reasons. Just let Jimmy G sit on the bench and be the battle-tested super-sub if needed.
To boldly go with Lance, just seems like a big roll of the dice to me. Why do it? Unless they absolutely have to because of cap issues.
If I were a 49er fan, i sure as hell would want both unless and until Lance proves he’s the guy on the field.
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wvParticipantWhat's going on here? pic.twitter.com/3jwbRazJhc
— Andy Tran (@andy23tran) July 13, 2022
wvParticipantI think Jalen has been the most ‘complete’ CB, I’ve ever seen on a Ram team. (That goes back to 1968-69).
The guy is such a force out there. A maniac. Old School in a way (on the field).
AW was great but he was past his prime by the time he was a Ram. I think of him more as a safety on the Rams.
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wvParticipant…It’s not a star OL and there is no single star on it. It is though an inexpensive, pretty good OL. Obviously way better than years worth of Rams problem OLs starting in 2007. ….Teams lose on avg. 3 OL starters every 2 years. Continuity has to be established by coaching, not retention.
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Well, I am not sure I ever thought you could win a Super Bowl with a ‘pretty good’ OL. Unless you had the 85 Bears Defense or somethin.
But McSnead won a Ring with a ‘pretty good’ OL.
If you are gonna try to win a Ring with a pretty-good-OL, it helps to have
an elite, veteran, QB, with a cannon for an arm.
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wvParticipantI agree on Brian Allen.
Oline’s seem so different to me, than they did in the olden days. Remember the old Rams OLines from the 70’s and 80s. Same guys every year, year after year, dominating. Ploughing along.
Nowadays, I am not sure what a good or great OLine even looks like. The Rams won a F’ing Super Bowl with an Oline that just looked ‘pretty good’ to me, and at times, during that 3-game slump, they looked totally over-matched.
Seems like OLines are more ‘up and down’ in this new-NFL. I dunno. Maybe not, but it seems that way to me. I dont watch a lot of the other teams (only highlights) but i dont get the impression there are any ‘dominating’ OLines anymore. But, I dunno.
I think my expectations/standards have changed when it comes to evaluating
Olines, given what i saw the Rams accomplish last year.
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wvParticipantwvParticipantwvParticipantwvParticipantNice pass by the Lion’s quarterback. At the 2 minute 50 second mark.
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wvParticipantJust a vid I watched. Started it at the 30 min. mark.
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wvParticipantI would like to see Jimmy G on another team. Just because I’m curious.
I have no idea if he is a product of a Shannahan system or if he is a solid talent or what. I’d like to see what he can do on a different team. I’ve always assessed him as ‘average qb’ but I dunno.
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wvParticipantLearn the game.
It's older than your great grandparents. pic.twitter.com/tSpDwXpK34— Squid Diddly (@SquidDiddly1989) July 7, 2022
wvParticipantHugh Grant tweeted a request at activists protesting outside Westminster to play the Benny Hill theme on their loudspeakers; when they did it became the soundtrack for street interviews with leading Tories trying explain the situation to the British people pic.twitter.com/V1LxUoxRUE
— Aaron Fritschner (@Fritschner) July 7, 2022
July 5, 2022 at 11:19 am in reply to: Environmental News (Supreme Court just signed our death warrant) #139544wvParticipant. . . . we’re screwed — along with most living things on this planet. Some estimates point to an even higher percentage. Jason Hickel’s books, The Divide, and Less is More, are great at spelling all of this out. You’ve quoted him in the past, if memory serves. He’s excellent at presenting the facts in a logical, coherent manner that makes it easy for the reader to connect the dots. He doesn’t need to editorialize, etc.
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Yes.
…I’m 65 now, BT. Spent many-a-year learning about capitalism, as you have.
I’m done reading about it now, though. Just Nuthin left I wanna know about it. The ‘big picture’ is pretty clear.
At any rate, I’m done reading political books. Capitalism is ecocide. What else is there to know, to say…
Gonna read some nature stuff. Some sci-fi, some fantasy, some literature, whatever seems fun, from week to week.
I finished a book on Punk music the other day. Enjoyed it. Couldnt find a single solitary decent person in the whole book 🙂
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July 5, 2022 at 10:15 am in reply to: Environmental News (Supreme Court just signed our death warrant) #139541wvParticipantWould seem that american-capitalism is
ecocide
Perhaps, possibly, there is some ‘kinder-gentler’ form of capitalism. Maybe.
(though, i would argue that sooner or later even those systems drift farther and farther right over the decades…)
But the American version, given the level of propaganda in this country — it was always gonna be Ecocide. I mean, the Left was just obliterated before each world war. Obliterated. What would we expect a country to look like without an actual Left? Prettymuch what we got.
Rightwing-Duopoly. Public with astonishingly low Political-IQ. Astonishingly Low.
Plant some seeds. Watch some Kupp highlights. Play with the dog 🙂
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wvParticipantWhy are so many religious people (Christians) followers of Trump ? Is it just abortion or -as I think may be the case-do they genuinely believe that he is doing God’s will? If the latter wouldn’t there be a better candidate for them ? I just don’t understand their reverence for the guy who seems the be the very opposite of a moral person.
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I think you already know the reasons. Not that complicated, if you accept that humans are easily frightened, easily duped, easily propagandized. And once they adopt this-or-that big-lie, they base their life on believing it. And thus they double-down on it, if that perspective is threatened. They cant live without the big-lie. It would hurt too much. Etc.
Its really no different than why they loved Bush or Reagan, etc. They wave the Bible around, quote a few passages, bring in some Rightwing Evangelicals as very visible consultants, play the abortion card, and selectively play up the passages in the bible that make jesus look like a white, rightwing, American.
wv-ram: Mom, how can you believe that sleazebag is really into Christianity?
wv-mom: He’s God’s Instrument. God doesnt always use perfect people.
And he will fight to stop the genocide against unborn babies.
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wvParticipantThe 49ers games reminded me of the old Tampa Bucs vs GSOT games, a little bit. ‘Body bag games.’
You knew the 49er/Buc offense was not going to beat the Rams. They had to rely on their defenses to force mistakes.
But then sometimes the Rams coaches would get a bit conservative to avoid those very mistakes — and so you get close games even without mistakes.
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wvParticipantI think the board-consensus is they need a healthy OBJ for the big moments in the close games down the stretch. Rams do not have a player with OBJ’s skillset. Dangerous redzone player and deep-threat. Takes so much pressure off Kupp and the other weapons. Makes McVay a much better playcaller 🙂
So many close games last year. Other than the blow-out of the Cardinals
these were the games down the stretch :
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23-20 Bengals
20-17 49ers
30-27 Bucs
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24-27 49ers
20-19 Ravens
30-23 Vikings
wvParticipantGreg Cook, Bert Jones, Ki-Jana Carter, Gale Sayers…so many.
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