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wvParticipantSteve Martin from 68
wvParticipantFwiw, RT on Syria:
link:https://www.rt.com/news/383785-us-missiles-syrian-army/wvParticipantI think DeVega is right about what white liberals get wrong about racism to a fair degree.
But I think Bernie knows that even while he downplays it. Bernie is clearly committed to avoiding name-calling, and “gutter” politics, or the appearance of it. He relentlessly looks to forge alliances, and that’s to his credit, I think. So he knows full well a lot of Trump’s appeal is to racists, but he knows nothing is gained by saying so. That’s my opinion.
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vwvParticipantI like it, but they sure need to find another good CB.
I guess we are all looking forward to seeing the new Wade Phillips Defense.
The Greg Williams Defense was spectacular sometimes, but it was a mess sometimes too. It would be nice to see some consistency.
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vwvParticipantWhat’s your take on the Syrian strike, WV?
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I dont have a take on it yet. Just found out about it a few mins ago.
My big-picture-take iz that none of the gangster states would be doing anything in the middle-east if there weren’t a whole lot of Oil in the region 🙂
Fwiw?
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wvParticipant“…That same assessment apparently goes on to report that these Russian hackers stole “large volumes of data from the DNC” in May of 2016. That information was then first posted online in June 2016.”
Here’s how i see this. (exaggerated to make a point):
1 Ganster-state-Russia, interfered (in a relatively tepid way) in Gangster-state-America’s election.2. The main-way gangster-state-russia ‘interfered’ was to excavate and publish TRUE emails and info from private Gangster-DNC-files.
3 Gangster-Trump, and his gangster minions, of course, aided and abetted and lied about these tactics, and the tactics probably did have some-unknown effect on the rigged-pro-corporate-election between gangster-Hillary and gangster-Trump.
4. This all happened within a context — that context being that the US-gangster-state has ‘interfered’ in many many many elections in other nations for decades and decades. The US-gangster state has probably interfered in Russia’s elections in the past, though i haven’t studied on that there issue.
5. So, in sum, we have gangsters in russia, gangsters in the DNC, gangsters in the GOP, cold-war-gangsters in the CIA/NSA, gangsters in the Kremlin, Gangster-Banksters, Gangster-Oligarchs, Gangster-Plutocrats…all fighting over gangster-controlled-intellectual and physical terrain. And we have various gangster-media factions supporting various gangster-factions in the Big-Gangster-Game.
And all this is vaguely known by the ‘citizens’ on some nebulous level, but basically the public is too propagandized by all the gangster-elements to really figure anything out. The bewildered herd is more bewildered than ever.
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vwvParticipantComedy has changed a lot since them there golden-years.
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vwvParticipantRussia is a gawd-awful right-wing authoritarian oligarchy. How is your Russian news on criticizing Russia?
That part is key for me. Russia is a hard-right autocracy, and it supports neo-fascists throughout Europe, in hopes of getting them elected. And your question above is the right one to ask. Does RT ever even question Russia’s own oligarchical practices? Does it go after Russia’s own pollution, corruption, violence, imperialism, etc.?
We definitely need strong critiques of our own ills. American imperialism needs to be critiqued and opposed, ferociously. But I’m highly skeptical of media outlets which seem to only concentrate on America, and no one else. And that brings us to Wikileaks: They ONLY go after America, and in recent years, just Democrats. Can anyone make an honest case that America is alone in the world when it comes to imperialist actions, destruction of eco-systems, government and corporate malfeasance, etc. etc.?
And by that, I’m saying it needs to be “both/and” not “either/or” as ZN mentions above. It’s not an excuse like “But mommy, mommy!! Joey did it too, waaaaaaaaaghhhh!” I’m saying attack imperialism, warmongering, empire expansion, inequality, the acceptance of poverty, hunger, homelessness, etc. etc. everywhere it exists. Everywhere. No one gets to skate on that. Not America. Not Russia. Not China or any of dozens and dozens of nation which promote, defend or at least allow evil.
And that’s the real “solidarity” in all of this. That’s the real potential for a righteous leftist revival. No cherry-picking. Just as we should be all about “social inclusion,” we need to be equal-opportunity fighters against injustice, regardless of source.
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I agree RT doesnt go after Russia. It has zero to say about Russia. Fair enough. But also, SO WHAT. Oftentimes their critiques of the US are right-on.
And if US-citizens only watch the MSM they never get any critique of the US that goes outside of the Dem vs Rep crap.And yes, Russia is all the things you and zn say. Its a gangster state. So is the USA. Maybe it takes one gangster state to critique the other.
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vwvParticipantRussia is a gawd-awful right-wing authoritarian oligarchy. How is your Russian news on criticizing Russia?
A lot of critiques I see of american policy from a purely russian perspective are complete bs. From top to bottom. And the same goes for the non-Russians they sponsor too. They’re especially bad when it comes to things like Syria.
And of course I am not one of those who thinks that that means american MSM is okay. It’s not an “either/or” thing.
There are sources available to us on everything that are far better than both. So I don’t see the point in paying any attention to the Russians at all. It’s all pro-Russian self-justifying agenda stuff. Of all the things to pay attention to, why them?
Again it’s not either/or and I don’t see the value in what they do, at all. I did just fine without them even during the run-up to the Iraq war. Cause. Again. They’re bad and it’s not either/or. There’s lots of valuable ways around both of them.
I don’t see the value in it. To me they’re just one more problem among others. It’s like, okay as if we didn’t have enough to do we have to sort through that, too.
Nothing pro-Russia serves any good purpose of any kind, IMO. I don’t see the point.
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Well that just sounds to me like you havent actually watched any of the good RT vids.
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vwvParticipantJust looking at the US PRIMARIES — most citizens voted for Rubio, Cruz, Hillary, Trump, etc — but what percentage out of all that, voted for Bernie? In the primaries.
Cause whatever number that is,
is the scorecard right now. Thats where were at.w
vwvParticipantWell my own take on the Russian ‘hacking/influencing’ story is a little different.
I mean, i actually watch a lot of the RT stuff and a lot of it is good. A lot of it isn’t. I would definitely say if Joe-average-citizen were to watch RT plus MSM-American stuff they would be ‘better informed’ than if Joe-average-citizen only watched the corporate american-MSM.
I mean, the thing is, these stories always act like the american-msm is all about truth and accuracy and the russians are all about evil-distortions. The truth of course is much different. Sometimes the MSM gets closer to the truth, sometimes russia, sometimes both, sometimes neither, etc.
A lot of times RT vids talk about the American-plutocracy or oligarchy etc — now is that in an effort to ‘destabalize’ the american system? Well, i dont care, since its a message americans need to hear. Etc, and so forth. I could go on about this.
I have yet to see a single article on this subject that reflects my point of view on this russia thing.
And btw, i would not trust any of those six ‘experts’ that were doing the talking that gave rise to that article.
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vwvParticipantwvParticipantYeah, i love old grizzled vets. I was hoping that is what McV would do.
I mean, what choice did they have, really?
He’s still a ? due to the health issue, of course.
I love the fact that the CENTER is familiar with the system. Having said that, i hate the fact that McV didnt want this guy — he wanted the Buffalo guy. Even though this guy knows the system. Still, he’s a good plan-B.
Now they can go BPA with their picks.
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vwvParticipantWolff on Marx:
wvParticipantwvParticipantwvParticipantWell if they draft a RB with their top pick or next pick, we’ll
know they aint sold on TG.I just think this is a team of question marks (as per usual):
Goff is a ?
Gurley is a ?
Quinn is a ?
GRob is a ?
Center is a ?
WRs are a ?
TEs are a ?
Saffold is always a ?
Tavon is a ?
McV is a ?
CB is a ?The only non-?s for me are Wade Phillips and Aaron Donald. Maybe Ogletree.
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vwvParticipantAnd yet, the man is an outcast in his own country, widely scorned, and largely barred from the media.
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Much like Nittany.
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vwvParticipantI thought that was purty awesome. Noam at his best.
And he quoted Colbert 🙂
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vwvParticipantWell how do spiders handle the marriage thing then?
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vThe bride eats the groom.
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Well that happens a lot on honeymoons,
you know.w
vwvParticipantI dont understand why Spiders need so many eyeballs. And i dont understand why humans only have two eyeballs.
Why didnt we evolve more eyeballs? I would think it would be an advantage.
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vBecause we invented marriage at about the same time.
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Well how do spiders handle the marriage thing then?
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vwvParticipantI dont understand why Spiders need so many eyeballs. And i dont understand why humans only have two eyeballs.
Why didnt we evolve more eyeballs? I would think it would be an advantage.
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vMarch 28, 2017 at 7:01 pm in reply to: Rams' projected O-line: Robinson at RT, Havenstein at RG #66768wvParticipantI’m not worried about moving Havenstein to guard and GRob to RT. That could become a pretty good tandem to run behind. Worst case scenario – it doesn’t work out so you switch them back (GRob to guard, Havenstein to RT).
Hard to get too excited about any of this until they get a center though.
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Well, wv-ram is, like, TOTALLY worried about Hav at guard and Grob at Tackle.
I dont think Hav is a guard and i dont think GRob is a Tackle. But what do i know. Apparently the OLine coach thinks he’s a miracle-worker. Or else the organization just feels stuck personnel-wize.
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vwvParticipantThey aren’t moving until after the stadium is built, and they don’t even have renderings of it yet. They will be another couple of years in Oakland no matter what, so they presumably won’t be up and coming at that point.
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O man. So the Oakland fans are gonna keep them for another year or two?
Thats gonna be weird. And ugly. And fun to watch.
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vMarch 28, 2017 at 7:20 am in reply to: Rams' projected O-line: Robinson at RT, Havenstein at RG #66742wvParticipantWell my first reaction is…this is going to be a disaster.
But then i have to remind myself that they know more about football
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vwvParticipantWonder why the Dolphins voted against it?
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vMarch 26, 2017 at 4:19 pm in reply to: Sanders and other progressives begin a push for single payer #66709wvParticipantI was watching a tv when Trump was yapping about the defeat of trumpcare
and i was thinking that this is the first time I’ve really thought to myself….even his supporters are gonna see through him on this one. His ‘schtick’ just wasnt very convincing on this one.Governing is starting to create cracks in his teflon.
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vwvParticipantMarch 26, 2017 at 8:58 am in reply to: does anyone care one way or another about the Chargers going to LA? #66689wvParticipantThe Chargers belong in San Diego.
Moving them will anger the old Gods and new.
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vwvParticipantRussian comedians are threatening our freedoms:
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