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wvParticipantwvParticipantOne of those draft gurus, i think it was mcshay, said there might be 7 first round QBs in NEXT years draft.
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vwvParticipantChris Broussard’s is not one of the 50 official voters, but here’s his vote:
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The AP selects a nationwide panel of sportswriters and broadcasters whose main beat is the NFL. The full list of voters isn’t published until the awards are announced each year.
Notable AP VotersTom Brady, Fox Sports analyst and seven-time Super Bowl champion.
Cris Collinsworth, NBC Sports broadcaster and former wide receiver.
Tony Dungy, NBC Sports analyst and Super Bowl-winning former head coach.
Mina Kimes, NFL analyst for ESPN.
Peter King, long-time NFL writer formerly with NBC Sports.
Mike Florio, creator of ProFootballTalk on NBC Sports.
Adam Schein, host on Showtime and CBS Sports.
Charean Williams, NFL writer for ProFootballTalk.
Rich Gannon, former NFL MVP and SiriusXM analyst.
Laura Okmin, reporter and analyst for Fox Sports.wvParticipantAnybody have a preference for the AFC champion?
Rams vs ?
Pats, Chargers, Bills, Texans, Steelers, Broncos, Jags.
Might be fun to play the Chargers. Revenge against the Pats?
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vwvParticipanti like this idea
wvParticipantRams will be one of the Super Bowl favorites next year, with Stafford. Very high expectations.
But will Stafford want to play the next year. Or the next.
How are the Rams looking at the next QB transition ?
McVay has had Goff, and then Stafford. Not bad.
He hates running QBs, obviously. I will never get my running QB 🙂
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vJanuary 6, 2026 at 11:04 am in reply to: Setting up Carolina game…Sat. 1/10 at 4:25 et 1:25 pt #160876wvParticipantLast time they played:
Bryce Young: 147.1 QB Rating. 3 TDs. 0 INTs. 15/20 206 yds.
Panthers rushed for about 150 yards, as well.
Rams defense had zero takeaways.
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Stafford: 18/28, 243 yds. 2 INTs, 1 fumble. 2 TDs, 85.9 QB rating.
Corum: 81 yards on 7 carries.
Williams: 72 yards on 13 carries.—
Time of possession:
Carolina 35 mins.
LA 24 mins.
—wvParticipantpoint of view
January 5, 2026 at 10:22 pm in reply to: The Stafford thread…update 12/31: huge S.I. article #160859wvParticipantJanuary 5, 2026 at 10:01 pm in reply to: The Stafford thread…update 12/31: huge S.I. article #160856wvParticipantIf it is “that close,” then sentiment will win out. And it probably should. If you can’t really distinguish between the two players this season, then you let the body of work over a career decide. I dunno, but I think Stafford will probably get it. Seems to me he is the Default…
One of the unsolvable problems is — its a stupid award. It just is. Its nebulous. WTF does ‘most valuable’ mean? And how can you compare offensive players and defensive players and different systems, and different schedules, etc etc.
There’s no way to take the silliness out of the award.
I still like it. I dont care. I like the tradition, the history.
Apparently, only QBs or RBs can be ‘most valuable’. If you look at the list of past MVPs its about 90 percent QBs and 9.5 percent RBs.
There is an oddity or two:
1987 L.Taylor
1982 Mark Moseley (Kicker
1971 Alan PageThis was a nice stretch:
1999 – Kurt
2000 – Faulk
2001 – KurtAlso: 1969. Roman Gabriel
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vwvParticipantbill barnwell at espn makes a good case for maye.
basically he says that while the rams had a more difficult schedule, that doesn’t hold true when you focus on just the pass defenses they faced..
it’ll be close.
Yeah, I’ve seen that argument, but to me its not persuasive. I dont even look at just ‘the defense’. For example, Maye played the Browns. The Browns have a good defense. But they are a bad team. And bad teams just make everything easier for quarterbacks, in my opinion. In a lot of little ways.
The Rams played good defenses on good teams. Playing the Seahawks is not the same as playing the Browns. Playing the Texans and Eagles is not the same as playing bad teams with ‘good pass defenses’. The pressure is different, the situations QBs find themselves in are different, etc.
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vwvParticipantwvParticipantCardinals fire Jonathan Gannon
Seahawks 14-3
Rams 12-5
SF 12-5
Arizona 3-14Arizona fans. Man. Just look at the situation.
And i dont see any reason to think those top 3 teams are gonna suddenly fall off next year.
McDonald, McVay, Shannahan.Is there any kind of QB solution for them?
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vwvParticipantThe question is, Lion body, Ram head. Or Ram body, Lion head.
There ya go.
Demoff should get somebody to design a Ram/Lion helmet for him.
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vwvParticipant…..“When I first came to the NFL, man, the shield really meant something,” he says. “Not to say it doesn’t now. But there is so much individual, global branding, so much star power, and not every voice is heard.”…
…. What then, will he do, when his career ends? Will he identify more as a Lion? Or a Ram?
He’s already split, which speaks to what they’ve built, together, in Los Angeles. “I don’t know,” Stafford says. “It’s gonna be a tough call at some point.”I dunno why he would have to pick Detroit OR LA to ‘identify’ with. He’s part-lion, part-ram.
Not sure ‘the shield’ ever meant anything except exploitation and profit. I mean, this is the same shield that covered up the concussion issue, etc.
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vwvParticipantHow the heck are the Packers 1.5 point favorites on the road against the 2-seed Bears?
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vwvParticipantSaw this today:
This year there were 515 passes thrown against the Jets defense. Zero interceptions.
First time an NFL team has zero INTs.
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vwvParticipantI guess we are rooting for lower seeds to win. SanFran and Green Bay. Maybe the Rams could still get a home game if they beat Carolina?
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vJanuary 5, 2026 at 8:59 am in reply to: Setting up Carolina game…Sat. 1/10 at 4:25 et 1:25 pt #160807wvParticipantBryce Young: 23 TDs, 11 INTs. QB rating 87.8. 3011 yds.
Stafford: 46 TDs, 8 INTs. QB rating 109.2 4707 yds.
========Team Defense.
Carolina: 327.2 yards per game.
Rams 327.5 yards per game.wvParticipantGreg Beacham@gregbeacham
The Rams have won at least 12 games in a season for the 3rd time in Sean McVay’s 9 years in charge. The first 2 times they did it, they made it to the Super Bowl.17 game season now. So many ‘records’ are silly now.
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vwvParticipantHonestly though, ‘politics’ is a factor when things are real close. Its a mental thing that can tip the balance when things are virtually even. (happens in jury trials all the time
for sure whether we agree with it or not.
i think strength of schedule as well as the division the rams played in should play a factor. i mean la, seattle, and sf all finishing with the records they did is just ridiculous.
Yeah, for me the schedule is the decisive factor. (but then I’m a ram fan).
Playing the Texan, and Eagle defense. And the Seahawk defense twice. Thats four top defenses on four good teams. Drake has not played a single good defense belonging to a good team. He did play the Browns defense, but the Browns are a three-win team.I think Stafford will win it. I think he barely nudged ahead today.
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vwvParticipantLooked like the Rams played another half-hearted game for a bit…
Like everyone else, I am hoping Lake is the Safety that binds them all..
“One Safety to rule them all, One Safety to find them, One Safety to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them, In the stadiums where the Shadows lie”.
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vwvParticipantHoly shit.
The Falcons fired Raheem Morris. I am stunned.
Holy shit is right. Fired the GM, too.
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vwvParticipantSaw a graphic on a vid:
Four times in the past, Quarterbacks have had over 45 TDs and under 10 INTs.
Brady in 2007
Rogers in 2011
Rogers in 2020
Stafford in 2025The first three all won the MVP.
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vwvParticipanthe may still win it….
the way brady describes it it seems he thinks stafford should win based on seniority. i don’t agree with that. vote for him because you thought he was the mvp this year. not because you think maye has to wait his turn.
Well, I think Brady highlighted the TDs before he mentioned the fact Maye still has a lot of years to win it.
Honestly though, ‘politics’ is a factor when things are real close. Its a mental thing that can tip the balance when things are virtually even. (happens in jury trials all the time 🙂
If voters think Maye and Stafford both have great arguments, ‘something’ has to tip the balance — and for some voters it will Stafford’s age and stature and lifetime achievement versus Maye’s youth, and of course the schedules. I also think more than a few voters just dont like the Patriots 🙂
Its all in the mix.
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vwvParticipantJanuary 4, 2026 at 9:46 pm in reply to: Setting up Carolina game…Sat. 1/10 at 4:25 et 1:25 pt #160780wvParticipantRams v Panthers at 18 min mark
wvParticipantvery close to getting the triple crown. finishes second in passer rating i think but first in yards and touchdowns.
that’s a bummer. i’m thinking now he’s got an outside shot. we’ll see.
I thought Dak had the most yards, but i could be wrong. I know its close.
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vwvParticipantwvParticipantSomethin i noticed. Every team in the NFC North finished above .500. Every team in the NFC South finished below .500.
NFC West of course had a 14 win team, and two 12-win teams. I dont think thats ever happened.
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