Billy_T wrote:

I haven’t seen any specifics. Just generalized stuff: back pain, ankle, and throwing arm…

..Bottom line for me: I think McVay is a good coach, and Snead is a pretty good GM. But they have their share of major whiffs…

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Well, an injured/beaten-up QB needs a good OLine.

And the Rams drafted a tutu instead of an OLineman.

Thats still my biggest gripe this year.

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Zooey wrote:

But that’s what they did last year.

And Williams was MUCH, MUCh better last year.

Why?

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Well, I dunno. But I’m guessing Staley had a better feel
for situational football.

But yeah, Williams is a mystery.

…if they lose to Jax, this will be quite a collapse.

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Eternal Ramnation wrote:

Just focusing on the offense here but Stafford’s first year in it he loses Akers in Camp then Funk Mundt Harris Atwell Woods for the season Skowronek last week after a bye trying to hurriedly implement OBJ and deal with several lingering injuries. Looking at the first 8 games some of the amazing throws that Goff wouldn’t make on his best day. He didn’t suddenly become an awful QB. Late November at Lambeau he lost a 1 possession game to the same Packers team that beat the Cards while down 5 starters.

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Bad news either way.
If the problem is Stafford, it aint gonna get better.
If the problem is injuries to Stafford and the Oline, and Woods, Akers, etc,
that aint gonna get better either.

At any rate, I love the fact that they finish up against the 49ers.
I hope both teams need that game to make the damn playoffs.
Let the rams earn it, If they can, agains the bullies who have
beat them up five times in a row.

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I disagree. Yes, i think Stafford is a significant upgrade over Goff.

I say that because of what i saw in the first batch of Ram games.
So what has happened? Has ‘the real stafford’ shown up?
Maybe.

But my own speculation is that
Stafford is hurt,
the OLine has not played well and is wearing down,
Losing Woods was huge,
Running game is not scaring anyone.

I mean, we know great QBs can suck when the surrounding pieces
disintegrate. I watched Russell Wilson a while back and he looked
absolutely awful. Is he a bum now?

Having said all that, Im not sure of any of this.
Its possible Stafford is Jeff George. Could be.
But at this point, I’m not persuaded.

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How come other teams just seem better than the rams?

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Biggest game of the year, I guess.
Can the Hollywood, glitzy, star-studded Rams actually play hard-nosed, outdoor football against a winning team?

Sure would be nice to see something out of Von Miller and/or OBJ.

I just dont know what this team can be without Captain Robert Woods.

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I believe Aaron Rogers has a bad toe as well.

I think the Rams win, by a toe.

Having said that, this season is ridiculous. Ive decided
no team deserves the Ring this year.

Maybe the Cardinals, i guess. But that is also ridiculous.

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Billy_T wrote:

WV,

What’s your take on the conventional wisdom with regard to “human nature”? I’ve been doing a lot of reading lately about evolution, biology, traits, etc. . . . and have discovered that the tide is turning. As in, the old ways of seeing humans as inherently violent, selfish, and hopelessly cruel, are being countered with a ton of evidence to the contrary..

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I think zn’s wording/thots on this were what I always return to.

Years ago, he basically taught me that ‘human nature’ is plastic,
adaptable.

Cooperation and Competition both are ‘human nature’.
So any ‘system’ can plug into either and ramp up or suppress either,
to an unknown-extent.

One of the reasons I’m a doomer, is because, I dont believe
its at all likely, that human-brains that have been born-and-raised
under generation-after-generation of capitalism, can be…um…’fixed’.
Too much damage. Damage is too deep.

But who knows.

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InvaderRam wrote:

well. at first i was disappointed. but comparing him to the rest of the field. he still ranks third in qb rating. he ranks first in total qbr. he also ranks fourth in ypa.

football outsiders ranks him third although it’s possible he moves up after factoring prescott’s last game.

still a long way to go but not bad.

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I think some of us are kinda getting a more fine-tuned view of Stafford.

He’s definitely not one of those high-precision, always-accurate
type QBs. Like say, oh, i dunno…Montana, etc.

He can be wild at times, like Goff.

But Stafford threatens the entire field, and he’s ‘accurate enough’
I think. He’s somewhere in the top-ten in the NFL.
Compare Stafford’s performance this year with, say, Mahommes, who
we know is HOF caliber. Or Russell Wilson, also HOF caliber. Or Dak.
Or Lamar Jackson. Or Josh Allen.

I mean, all the top QBs have had bad games this year.

For me, what I’m seeing is mainly problems ‘around’ him.
Oline problems. And now, no Robert Woods which is huge.
And the running game is ok, but not top-ten.

The focus is gonna be on the QB, as per usual, but
this team will go as far as the OLine takes them.

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nittany ram wrote:

Stafford’s has come back to the pack the last couple weeks, but by any statistical measure he’s still one of the top three QB’s in the league.

Neither INT against the 9’ers was his fault. The first one was picked because OBJ quit on the route, and the second one bounced out of Higbee’s hands.

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Did OBJ ‘quit on the route’ or was he running a
different/shallower route than stafford expected?

I dunno.

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“…While there, she claims he flew into a jealous, violent rage.”
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‘Love,’
a breakup,
jealousy,
violence.

Seen it a gazillion times.

Most of my male jealous-rage-abuser-clients over the years,
did not ‘mean’ to fly into a violent-rage. But they
could not stop the infantile-rage. Its like lightning.

There’s usually something ‘infantile’ about such men.
Hard to describe. Something didnt develop.
I dunno.

Protective Orders and stuff only come into play
when its too late.

Something needs to happen to teach young boys
learn to handle emotional pain.

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Ozoneranger wrote:

I was at the game. Here’s my report.

Atmosphere. Like every Rams-Niner game I’ve been to, save 07, when both teams stunk, it was really good. For a rivalry game, the two fan bases get on real well. I saw no problems, no fights or taunting. I was surprised at the number of empty seats between the 20’s. Way fewer Ram fans than previous years.

Now my take..

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Good to hear from you, Oz.

What if the Rams have a collection of stars,
but not enough solid players?

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I ordered the DVD a while back. Its outstanding.
Its on utube, btw:

Well, they were super bowl favorites for about
a day and a half.

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