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His offensive coaching staff hires haven’t worked out overall. Also his overall offensive player acquisition via both the draft and FA were terrible. He attempted to basically rebuild the OLine through one draft, and although to date that is probably incomplete, so far it doesn’t look good.
sacramParticipantTHIS years offense was barely touched by injuries and whatever the reason,
The problems for 2016, to me, had to do with a 1st time coordinator. To me that’s why they couldn’t repeat 2015, which was better in spite of all the obstacles they had to overcome.
Yes that is likely one the if not THE biggest problem with the offense, but that was ultimately JF’s choice, so IMHO that decision goes directly back to him.
And I agree this horse has been beaten, I’m bowing out on this as well. Lets hope that the Rams make the right choice and this thing gets turned around quickly.
sacramParticipantDuring his entire tenure the majority of his offensive acquisitions whether via FA or the draft just didn’t perform.
See I don’t see it that way. They had several years worth of combined OL injuries and qb injuries and melt downs which meant being stuck with #2 caliber qbs. I can’t think of any team that has been effective under those conditions.
THIS years offense was barely touched by injuries and whatever the reason, (Keenum as a starting QB, Boras as the OC, a young Oline, or any combination of these or any other factors) it starts and ends with Jeff Fisher. He made all of those decisions.
With the (supposed) defensive strength, all we needed was a slight improvement, say from 32nd to somewhere around 22nd to 25th in scoring and we would probably would be contending for a playoff spot. Instead with HIS offensive staff and offensive players they have had their worst year offensively in his 5 years and are dead last again.
I know your theory on the Foles meltdown, the freak Bradford injuries, the Oline injuries and inexperience…..but THIS year we had none of that type of stuff, with the exception of the Oline inexperience, happen to the team and the offense just seems to continue to get worse.
sacramParticipantI think Fisher’s inability to build an at least average offense did him in. During his entire tenure the majority of his offensive acquisitions whether via FA or the draft just didn’t perform.
Having the 32nd ranked offense in back to back seasons during his 4th and 5th years with the team was the straw that broke the camel’s back. This year’s offense was completely and thoroughly inept despite having complete and total health, and the offense including the staff was built by JF from top to bottom. Pretty hard to believe that THIS years team was probably his worst offense, which to me isn’t explainable.
sacramParticipantI don’t see Schott as having failed.
I think Cigz was fired because of behind closed doors stuff.
I am not convinced Boras is a problem. I think a lot of things are going on.
Fisher, like all head coaches who aren’t their own coordinators, has a lot of say over the offensive approach. And rightly so. But that’s league wide. Heck, Vermeil promised Martz that the offense was exclusively his, but then when he was miked, you could hear DV saying stuff about the general approach to things and about situational football. So I don’t see Fisher as being different from anyone else when it comes to that.
Calling Schottenheimer’s tenure with the Rams as being positive is definitely debatable, but I don’t think there is much doubt that Cignetti’s and now Boras’s tenures have been train wrecks. This version of the Ram offense is as bad as any Austin Davis/Kellen Clemens/Shawn Hill (injury riddled) led offense in previous years. This team has had the (For the Rams, unicorn type) rarity of nearly perfect health while compiling the 31st ranked team in total YPG, 32nd (Dead last in the entire NFL) in PPG, 29th in both Rushing YPG and Rushing YPA, 28th in Passing YPG….there is more, but I don’t even want to look its just too depressing.
Obviously, Goff is a very possible bright spot in the near future, but with the continued offensive ineptness year after year with this coaching staff, I simply don’t have any confidence that they could even approach just “average”. If we didn’t see a marked improvement this year, why should we expect significant improvement going into next year? We don’t have any real premium draft picks, and the offensive FA signings under this regime have been very underwhelming. I just don’t see it….
sacramParticipantMy problem with JF THIS year specifically, is this offense has been built from the ground up by JF/Snead and again the Rams have a bottom 5 offense, very possibly THE worst offense in the entire league. There have been almost NO injuries on the offensive side of the ball. Sure the offensive line is young and inexperienced, but having said that, I think we all certainly had higher hopes for the line to be at least adequate.
In actuality all we needed was an offense around 20th-22nd in scoring and we’d be right in the middle of the playoff race…instead its close to dead last in almost every category once again.
ZN, you’ve made your case on injuries to the Oline and QB over most of JF’s tenure, which has obviously affected the offense’s success and the teams overall W/L record. Well that hasn’t really played a role in this year’s offensive ineptness. If JF gets the extension that your in favor of, why do you think that the offense will improve next year? Will they hire another coordinator? Will the Oline improve to the point that the offense will make a big jump?
I think you are right about that in large measure. There is no injury excuse this year. The OL has just under-performed in run blocking. Pass protection seems okay.
I am more in the Blame Boras camp, though. He is not getting as much out of Gurley and Austin and they did last year. Now, last year, we lamented the fact that Gurley and Austin seemed to be the only weapons. This year, those guys aren’t even weapons. The only thing that is going well consistently on the offense is the slant to Britt.
This year there has been consistency in personnel. They aren’t putting a different OL arrangement out there every week, or running through players anywhere. The only thing that is different that I can see is Boras. It’s not that I have any evidence to back that up. All I got is that there seems to be no other explanation.
I agree that alot of the issues point to Boras, BUT how much input does JF have into his game plans and even his play calling on game day? And lets assume that the offense is 100% Boras with ZERO input from JF….at what point is JF held accountable for the multiple failed OC hires hes made? To me it seems very hard to field one of the worst offenses year after year, regardless of the circumstances, and the common denominator has been JF.
sacramParticipantMy problem with JF THIS year specifically, is this offense has been built from the ground up by JF/Snead and again the Rams have a bottom 5 offense, very possibly THE worst offense in the entire league. There have been almost NO injuries on the offensive side of the ball. Sure the offensive line is young and inexperienced, but having said that, I think we all certainly had higher hopes for the line to be at least adequate.
In actuality all we needed was an offense around 20th-22nd in scoring and we’d be right in the middle of the playoff race…instead its close to dead last in almost every category once again.
ZN, you’ve made your case on injuries to the Oline and QB over most of JF’s tenure, which has obviously affected the offense’s success and the teams overall W/L record. Well that hasn’t really played a role in this year’s offensive ineptness. If JF gets the extension that your in favor of, why do you think that the offense will improve next year? Will they hire another coordinator? Will the Oline improve to the point that the offense will make a big jump?
sacramParticipantI don’t have this recorded to re-watch, but didn’t they call the penalty on Chase Reynolds? I rewatched this at the time, and Chase Reynolds actually blocked his man directly in the front not even on the side. It looked like #54 (Don’t even know his name, they just called him up from the practice squad I believe) blocked his guy on the side and back and also grabbed a handful of jersey. If anyone has it to rewatch, check it out.
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