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  • in reply to: Steve Wyche on Jared Goff #49708
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    I’d just as soon my salt didn’t contain uranium.

    It’s that kind of namby-pamby “I’m better than the next guy” snobbery that has made such a mess of the modern world.

    Look, Bambi, you’ll eat your trace uranium with dinner along with the rest of us, and like it.

    It’s the 21st century. Nobody whines about “uranium in their food” anymore.

    Uranium, eh?

    That’s adorable, Sissy Man.

    If and when you grow a pair,
    try an antimatter sandwich.

    Aand

    in reply to: Don't blame Stein or Bernie supporters if Trump wins #49695
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    Wow look at all the fear mongering in this thread!

    Partisan spin. You go along with the policies we reject so you’re fine with them. But don’t try to convince anyone you have “a truth.” Everyone knows better, and everyone will see it as your spin. You’re fine with the policies and turn a blind eye to the racism, so naturally you don’t accept the criticism. But that will have no impact. We dislike the policies and the racism. That won’t change.

    What you will never be able to do is to talk anyone here into accepting the policies. And that’s in the end all that will matter.

    You mean your spin. Because after all that is what you have. Spin. Your spin. A spin I reject. I’m not trying to talk anyone into anything, rather I’m letting other Rams fans know that this place isn’t the Communist Corner of Purity since I post here and they could too.

    Racism? To blacks your candidate says “heel”! About the TPP she says “gold standard”. She war mongers towards Russia. Her position on anything is for sale.

    bnw, believe me…you and perhaps waterfield are the only people posting here that have candidates in this race.

    And until you acknowledge Trump’s racism your credibility on that subject will remain in question.

    in reply to: Steve Wyche on Jared Goff #49694
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    For our technically challenged leader. The stuff about pink Himalayan salt is towards the bottom and is bolded. You can’t miss it. If you have any further problems, I suggest you seek the assistance of a grown-up.

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    Pass the Salt (But Not That Pink Himalayan Stuff)

    Posted by Harriet Hall on August 19, 2014 208 Comments
    Humans, like many other animals, crave the taste of salt. Animals frequent salt licks, humans have traded salt for equal weights of gold, and the word “salary” comes from the Roman soldier’s allowance for purchasing salt. Salt appears in our language in idioms like “worth its salt” and “salt of the earth.” Shakespeare’s play King Lear is a variant of a folktale where a daughter tells her father she loves him as much as meat loves salt. In a murder mystery I read years ago, a character listed the four food groups as sweet, salty, sticky, and chocolate.

    table salt shakers

    It’s no fair: everything that tastes good turns out to be bad for us. We love the taste of salt, but dietary guidelines tell us we should all limit our sodium intake to less than 2.3 grams (2300 mg) a day to avoid high blood pressure and death from cardiovascular disease. And those who are fifty-one, African American, or who have high blood pressure, chronic kidney disease or diabetes should limit their intake even further, to 1500 mg a day or less.

    (Note: the salt molecule consists of an atom of sodium and an atom of chloride; 40% of the weight is sodium, so 1500 mg of sodium equals 3750 mg of salt, roughly ¾ of a teaspoon. Over 75% of our salt is already in the food, not added from the salt shaker.)

    In 2010, the American Heart Association lowered its recommendations to 1500 mg a day for everyone. We thought that was good advice, but new evidence has muddied the waters.

    In the latest issue of The New England Journal of Medicine, three new studies about the role of salt in cardiovascular disease were published. Instead of providing clear answers, they raise more questions. In a cute NEJM QuickTake cartoon video they summarize the findings of the studies. If you’d rather spend three minutes watching cartoons than reading my explanation, feel free.

    Salt and health: the background

    High blood pressure is a known risk factor for heart attacks and strokes. Numerous studies have shown a correlation between salt intake and blood pressure, but the correlation between salt intake and cardiovascular outcomes like stroke and death has not been so clearly established. The large INTERSALT study found a modest association between higher levels of sodium intake and higher blood pressure. Some systematic reviews of the literature have confirmed that association, others have not. A 2013 review in the British Medical Journal found that lower sodium intake was correlated not only with a lower risk of hypertension but also with a lower risk of stroke and fatal coronary heart disease. Prospective cohort studies have shown inconsistent associations between sodium intake and cardiac risk.

    Larger studies were needed to settle the issue.

    First study: Association of Urinary Sodium and Potassium Excretion with Blood Pressure, by Mente et al.

    Subjects: 102,216 adults from 18 countries. Method: single fasting urine levels of sodium and potassium were used to estimate 24-hour excretion, providing an indirect estimate of dietary intake. Findings: the association of sodium with BP was greatest in hypertensives, the elderly, and those who had the highest intakes of salt. It was greatest in those ingesting over 6 grams of sodium a day, modest in those ingesting 3-5 grams, and not significant in those ingesting less than 3 grams a day. They found an inverse relationship for potassium: higher levels of potassium were associated with lower blood pressures.

    Second study: Urinary Sodium and Potassium Excretion, Mortality, and Cardiovascular Events, by O-Donnell et al.

    Subjects: 101,945 adults from 17 countries. Method: as in the first study, single fasting urine tests were used to estimate 24-hour urinary sodium and potassium excretion; those estimates were compared to a composite outcome of death and major cardiovascular events. Findings: mean sodium excretion was 4.93 g. Compared to a reference range of 4.00-5.99 g a day, the odds ratio for death and cardiovascular events was 1.15 for high sodium excretion (over 7 g a day) but was even greater at 1.27 for a low sodium excretion (below 3 g). Higher potassium excretion was associated with decreased risk.

    Third study: Global Sodium Consumption and Death from Cardiovascular Causes, by Mozaffarian et al.

    The authors reviewed 205 studies on sodium consumption from 66 countries. Estimated mean global consumption was 3.95 grams a day, with regional means varying from 2.18 to 5.51. Daily sodium intake >6 grams a day was associated with increased risk of mortality and cardiovascular events. Surprisingly, so was intake of <3 grams. The lowest risk was in the 3-6 gram range. They used a computer model to estimate that 1.65 million deaths a year could be attributed to a sodium intake of greater than 2 grams a day. That’s about 10% of all cardiovascular deaths. The rate ranged from 4 deaths per million adults per year in Kenya to 1,967 per million in Georgia.

    Discussion of the results

    We knew too much sodium was risky, but these studies raise concerns that too little sodium might be even worse. As the accompanying editorial points out,

    They call into question the feasibility and usefulness of reducing dietary sodium as a population-based strategy for reducing blood pressure…the alternative approach of recommending high-quality diets rich in potassium might achieve greater health benefits, including blood-pressure reduction, than aggressive sodium reduction.

    It may not be the potassium itself; diets rich in potassium are also rich in a lot of other healthy nutrients from fruits and vegetables.

    These studies were large and well designed. They gathered an immense amount of data, looked at a variety of associations, and did their best to rule out possible confounding factors. But epidemiologic studies like these are imperfect by nature. The authors themselves pointed out several limitations of their studies, including the indirect way they measured sodium and potassium excretion.

    So what did we learn?

    None of this really sheds any light on what we should do as individuals. Should we continue asking “pass the salt?” Should we abstain from adding salt at the table? Should we read labels and monitor the total amount of salt in our diet? Should we aim for 3–5 g a day?

    These studies found associations, but they couldn’t determine causes, and they did not even attempt to measure what would happen if people changed the amount of sodium and potassium in their diets. If anything, they suggest that existing guidelines for salt restriction for the general population may be too extreme.

    They also suggest that “moderation in all things” and “eat your vegetables” are still good advice.

    Bonus question: What kind of salt should we use?

    A related question is whether some kinds of salt are healthier than others. Sea salt, table salt, kosher salt, flavored salt, fleur de sel, Hiwa Kai, Black Hawaiian Sea Salt, Kala Namak, “organic salt,” and Pink Himalayan Sea Salt are all basically the same chemical, sodium chloride. Only the trace amounts of other substances vary. Table salt is fortified with iodine and is a highly effective way to prevent iodine deficiency and goiter. Gourmet cooks swear by the taste differences of different salt varieties.

    (Don’t eat Epsom salt. You’d regret it: it’s has a significant laxative effect when taken internally.)

    Pink Himalayan sea salt was introduced to me by an e-mail correspondent who questioned the claim that it contained “84 trace minerals that promote health and well being.” I questioned it too, so I did a little research.

    Mike Adams, the infamous Health Ranger, explains that Himalayan Pink Crystal Salt contains the full complement of minerals and trace elements “just like Mother Earth intended.” It is an unrefined, unprocessed raw salt mined by hand from salt caves that formed 250 million years ago as ocean salt settled into geologic pockets. It is stone-ground, which apparently doesn’t count as “processing.” Table salt is bad stuff, you see, since it was processed to remove all the good stuff and then they had to replace the iodine because people who ate it started to get goiters. Oh, and incidentally he sells the good stuff on his website and even offers a discount.

    I found a website that reports the results of a spectral analysis of Himalayan salt. I think this is where the claim comes from. Even if this analysis is accurate, it is meaningless for health and if anything is worrisome. The amount of minerals in it is too minuscule to make any difference, and we already get plenty of the same trace minerals from other foods. They claim that two double-blind studies were done, but no such studies are listed in PubMed. There is no evidence published in peer-reviewed journals that replacing white salt with pink salt makes a shred of difference or leads to any improvement in health.

    If you read down the list of minerals, you will notice that it includes a number of radioactive substances like radium, uranium, and polonium. It also includes substances that act as poisons, like thallium. I wouldn’t be worried, since the amounts are so small; but if anyone believes the trace amounts of “good” minerals in Himalayan sea salt are good for you, why not believe the trace amounts of poisons and radioactive elements are bad for you?

    The claim that pink Himalayan salt contains 84 trace minerals may be true, but the claim that it “promotes health and wellness” is false until proven otherwise by legitimate clinical studies. While waiting for evidence, I’d just as soon my salt didn’t contain uranium.

    in reply to: Steve Wyche on Jared Goff #49670
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    Himalayan pink salt is really snake oil.

    https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/pass-the-salt-but-not-that-pink-himalayan-stuff/

    For some reason when I try to connect to your link I get this:

    I don’t know why that would happen. The link works for me. Perhaps it’s a setting on your computer that’s preventing you from accessing it? I would copy and paste the whole article but that’s too difficult with my cell phone (I’m at work). I’ll do it from my laptop when I get home.

    in reply to: Steve Wyche on Jared Goff #49667
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    “We thought we’d try to work a little bit — not just sit around on the couch and eat Cheez-Its all summer,” Keenum said. “I think we made a jump.”

    As someone who sits around a lot eating Cheez-its I can testify to the fact that it’s probably not the best way to hone your skills as a QB. I’ve been eating Cheez-its for over 30 years and I’m no better a QB now than I was 30 years ago.

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    “You don’t become a four-time Super Bowl champion by eating junk food.”

    Read more at: http://nesn.com/2016/01/tom-bradys-chef-breaks-down-patriots-quarterbacks-crazy-eating-habits/

    …The real challenge presumably lies in working around the restrictions Brady and his chef have imposed. There are certain ingredients Campbell absolutely won’t use when feeding the Brady clan. “No white sugar. No white flour. No MSG,” Campbell told Boston.com. “I’ll use raw olive oil, but I never cook with olive oil. I only cook with coconut oil. Fats like canola oil turn into trans fats. … I use Himalayan pink salt as the sodium. I never use iodized salt. “(Tom) doesn’t eat nightshades, because they’re not anti-inflammatory. So no tomatoes, peppers, mushrooms or eggplants. Tomatoes trickle in every now and then, but just maybe once a month. I’m very cautious about tomatoes. They cause inflammation.” Don’t expect to see Brady consuming coffee, caffeine, fungus or dairy anytime soon. The Pats QB also doesn’t eat much fruit, according to Campbell, though he’ll occasionally break his fruit ban every now and then for a nice banana smoothie…

    Read more at: http://nesn.com/2016/01/tom-bradys-chef-breaks-down-patriots-quarterbacks-crazy-eating-habits/

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    Tom Brady is such a pretentious dick in everything he does, even the food that he puts into his precious, signal-calling pie hole. He needs to explain how Himalayan pink salt and raw olive oil helps him cheat.

    Himalayan pink salt is really snake oil.

    https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/pass-the-salt-but-not-that-pink-himalayan-stuff/

    in reply to: Don't blame Stein or Bernie supporters if Trump wins #49666
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    The Supreme Court alone is enough to motivate me to pick Clinton this time around.

    Yeah, I’ve decided to vote for Clinton based mainly on the SC situation. The next president may appoint four justices. That trumps every other consideration (see what I did there?). I was planning to vote for Stein. To me she is the best candidate (even though there’s some things about her that bug me) but the threat of 30 years with a SC dominated by Trump-selected justices made my decision for me.

    in reply to: Steve Wyche on Jared Goff #49623
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    “We thought we’d try to work a little bit — not just sit around on the couch and eat Cheez-Its all summer,” Keenum said. “I think we made a jump.”

    As someone who sits around a lot eating Cheez-its I can testify to the fact that it’s probably not the best way to hone your skills as a QB. I’ve been eating Cheez-its for over 30 years and I’m no better a QB now than I was 30 years ago.

    in reply to: Looks like I'm going to the Pats-Rams game on 12/4 #49593
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    I might go to a game in LA. My son suggested it. He is going to USC this year, and since that’s where the Rams are playing, he wants to go. Nice that he suggested “we” go, don’t you think? Nice son.

    You’ll only need to buy two tickets…

    That’s what second mortgages are for.

    in reply to: Voting disparity #49592
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    White males have always had the fortune of being the most privileged group. Now they are starting to feel put-upon because that privilege is being challenged more and more. But this oppression isn’t oppression at all. What they are feeling is some discomfort at losing a little bit of their privilege. As someone recently said, “when you’re accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression”.

    Anyway, a woman running for the most powerful position in the world only feeds into all that.

    I agree with all of that, and that quote is excellent.

    To me, however, one huge problem with the Democratic “fix” for this is the concept of “diversifying” the privileged. I think we need to get rid of that privilege, period. As in, instead of making sure CEOs and the rich and powerful “reflect America,” or even that the middle class does, I think it’s self-evident that getting rid of classes and hierarchies period is a much, much better route to social justice. End economic apartheid (capitalism), and the other apartheids and the funding for them virtually disappears.

    Basically, if we end the vertical gaps, flatten the pyramid, racial, gender, sexuality divisions all but vanish. We still work on those. We still fight for civil rights and social equality. But if we get rid of class divisions, we get rid of the engine for those divisions.

    And, as a side benefit? If we tackle it that way, there is no longer any reason for whites and POCs to be pitted against one another. There isn’t anyone with the power or wealth or privilege to do this in the first place.

    I agree that what you describe above would be the best. But that requires a total system change…something that we all want but is unlikely to happen anytime soon. Diversifying privilege is something that can be done without altering the system to a large degree. It’s far from ideal, but at least it levels the playing field a bit. All groups should share in the privilege for now. Next step – eliminate it.

    in reply to: Voting disparity #49588
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    White males have always had the fortune of being the most privileged group. Now they are starting to feel put-upon because that privilege is being challenged more and more. But this oppression they feel isn’t oppression at all. What they are feeling is some discomfort at losing a little bit of their privilege. As someone recently said, “when you’re accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression”.

    Anyway, a woman running for the most powerful position in the world only feeds into all that.

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    in reply to: A genuine debate #49574
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    Cal, what about all the damage Trump could do in those four years? I mean, if elected he is likely to appoint 4 Supreme Court judges. That means Roe v. Wade could be overturned and that’s just the beginning. A Trump presidency means a conservative SC for the next 30 years.

    in reply to: Trump Putin connections #49568
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    Here’s what the Atlantic stated in June about Mr. Trump’s bad shit. Makes him seem like a real creep.

    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/06/donald-trump-scandals/474726/

    Trump has also been accused of raping a 13 year old girl. The statute of limitations has run out so he can’t be held criminally responsible.

    Like Bill Clinton, Trump is linked to the convicted pedophile, Jeff Epstein who is also named in the suit. Apparently, there is a witness who corroborates the victim’s story.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lisa-bloom/why-the-new-child-rape-ca_b_10619944.html

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    But Hillary is Keenum. Trump though is Manziel. I would prefer Goff but anything is better than Manziel.

    Well, we could have had Montana but Keenum’s party conspired against him.

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    For me there’s only two tribes now. And there’s always, only, been
    two tribes. And you know what they are, comrad.

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    Apaches and Presbyterians?

    I feel the same way about Nationalism. In my youth I was very nationalistic but as I matured and learned it completely eroded away.

    You know, the lies that we’re taught in elementary and secondary schools about this country to encourage patriotism don’t help in that regard. It would be easier to be patriotic if we were taught the truth from the beginning – in all its corrupt, imperialistic, genocidal glory. Then we could come to terms with it, move on and try to do better – instead of stupidly believing in our greatness only to be disillusioned later.

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    in reply to: Trump Putin connections #49527
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    If journalism was still the Fourth Estate, this story would dominate the news cycle until The Donald specifically addressed his financial connections with Russia. This guy hasn’t even released his tax records.

    George Will thinks Trump won’t release his records because they will show financial ties with Russia. Others speculate that Trump is hiding tax fraud. If his records are released, independent tax experts will go over the taxes even more rigorously than the IRS. Stuff the IRS has been missing could come to light and lead to criminal charges. Of course, all this is speculation, but Trump’s excuse of not wanting to release the records during an audit makes no sense. The audit is irrelevant to the release. Other candidates have released their records during audits.

    in reply to: Chomsky on voting for Clinton #49525
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    Yeah, i think that’s the zack neruda view, too.

    What are the ‘swing states’ btw? Ohio, Florida….what else?

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    Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, Nevada, Colorado, New Hampshire, Iowa, Virginia and North Carolina.

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    Bill Clinton’s mutually consensual affairs don’t bother me but the allegations of sexual assault do. But here’s the thing…unlike Trump, Bill Clinton isn’t running for president.

    in reply to: Trump Putin connections #49455
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    Trump

    in reply to: New species of whale discovered #49424
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    Semantic debate?

    “Discovered” is the conventional word because it means brought to our attention when previously we were in ignorance.

    Like, you discovered that there’s a mole in your garden.

    The word refers to and only means “came to our awareness and attention.” Doesn’t mean you suddenly invented moles who therefore now exist for the first time in the history of the earth.

    Exactly.

    This may be a stretch, but it reminds me of the faux-controversy over “Black Lives Matter.” It’s always implied “too” at the end of that. Which is the point. It’s never meant “only,” added to the front of that. So the right-wing refrain of “All Lives Matter” is stupid and offensive and basically just another way to put white folks back on top.

    IMO, etc.

    A good analogy I heard for when All Lives Matter is used in response to Black Lives Matter…

    Picture a group of people sitting around a table at a dinner. One person who’s plate is empty says “I deserve to eat.” Another person who’s plate is piled high with food says, “Hey, we all deserve to eat!”

    in reply to: New species of whale discovered #49416
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    Interesting though more like realized rather than discovered.

    Yes, that’s usually the way it goes nowadays. at least for larger animals. It was the same with the recent ‘discovery’ of a new species of tapir. However, there may be some large bodied animals still unknown to science waiting to be found in the depths of the ocean.

    Of course, there are plenty of smaller organisms that have yet to be discovered. Thousands of new species are being found every year.

    in reply to: I like this and of course agree #49355
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    not everyone thinks Trump would be that much worse than Hillary.

    IMO? Yes he would be THAT much worse.

    That’s my honest opinion of it.

    FWIW I don’t disagree with you. But I think a lot of leftists, Greens and ‘anti-insider’ types don’t see it that way.

    in reply to: I like this and of course agree #49349
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    The author thinks people who vote for Stein or write in Sanders’ name think they can win. That may be true for a few people but I think most don’t hold such grand illusions. The vast majority of Stein and Sanders supporters know their candidates can’t and won’t win. They are voting for Stein and Sanders for a variety of reasons (tired of voting for the lesser of two evils, want to send a message, etc). What the author fails to grasp is not everyone thinks Trump would be that much worse than Hillary. That’s not a ‘given’ among a great number of people.

    in reply to: happy birthday Winnbrad #49335
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    Happy Bday.

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    If Rodger Saffold is at his own 25 yard line and is running at a speed of 8.0 yards/sec and a defender at the 50 yard line is approaching Rodger Saffold at a speed of 9.5 yards/sec, how many seconds will elapse before Rodger Saffold is injured?

    in reply to: Speaking of lying #49309
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    The rightwinger focuses on her Lies. The leftwing focuses on her truths.

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    My gawd that was profound. So profound that for a moment I thought I was reading one of Master Po’s insights that he used to instruct his young Grasshopper.

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    If you plant rice, rice will grow. If you plant fear, fear will grow.
    Kung Fu
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    “There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.”

    [Kung Fu Monkey — Ephemera, blog post, March 19, 2009]”
    ― John Rogers

    “Tie two birds together. And though they may have four wings, they cannot fly.” – Master Po

    in reply to: Speaking of lying #49306
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    The rightwinger focuses on her Lies. The leftwing focuses on her truths.

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    My gawd that was profound. So profound that for a moment I thought I was reading one of Master Po’s insights that he used to instruct his young Grasshopper.

    Po

    Seriously though I think you’re probably right about that. And her truths are often scarier than her lies.

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    in reply to: Mike Lansford #49265
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    Pardon my ignorance but who Lansford and Harrah?

    Mike Lansford was a Rams kicker back in the 80’s. He was pretty good and he used to kick barefoot.

    Dennis Harrah was a guard for the Rams back in the 70’s/80’s and is probably one of the 5 best to ever play the position.

    in reply to: Elizabeth Warren on Hillary Clinton #49223
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    … In that light I suspect he is a moderate-which of course will piss of the leftists. But as I age I’ve come to realize that for me labels mean little.

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    Well, myself, i find labels quite useful. I mean George Bush was a “Rightwinger”.
    I think the label fits just fine. Bernie is a “new deal progressive” or a “democratic-socialist” etc. Reagan was a useful-idiot. Mike Martz was a paranoid wizard.
    Lassie was a whiney sheepdog. ….see, perfectly useful labels.

    Seriously, i think labels are just fine, depending on context.

    I mean if labels dont matter and are meaningless then Trump is the same as Hillary, right?
    We cant use words to differentiate them?

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    You got that mixed up.

    Lassie was a collie.

    Bush was the useful idiot.

    Reagan was the whiney sheepdog.

    in reply to: Rams Helmets … history #49215
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    I never knew they wore red and gold for a season.

    Christ, I’m glad that didn’t take hold.

    in reply to: Elizabeth Warren on Hillary Clinton #49214
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    It all reminded me of some of those historical clips from the rise of Nazi Germany and Hitler’s call to action.

    Really? Where’d ya get that idea?

    salute

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