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  • August 5, 2016 at 9:53 am in reply to: harsh eye on both candidates #50207
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    wv wrote:

    Anyway, how do you get 3 deferments ?

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    Good question. Ya know, I wouldn’t be surprised if it has something to do with money. 😉 The rich have always had an ‘out’ as far as the draft goes in this country.

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    August 5, 2016 at 9:46 am in reply to: Yeah, I'm done with Jill Stein… #50205
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    PA Ram wrote:

    Interesting, Nittany. But what about patenting seeds? What about terminator seed technology? That seems to be messing with nature in a bad way.

    Many plants are patented, GMO and non-GMO alike. The terminator seed is a name given to the sterile seed technology by anti-biotech activists. They are actually not being used anywhere.

    http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2012/10/18/163034053/top-five-myths-of-genetically-modified-seeds-busted

    August 5, 2016 at 7:00 am in reply to: Yeah, I'm done with Jill Stein… #50196
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    Eternal Ramnation wrote:
    nittany ram wrote:
    Eternal Ramnation wrote:

    The problem is she’s an MD. and is not an anti-vac. She is anti corporate control over drug safety which is a good thing. Science ? The science on mercury is undeniable , it is not healthy and there is no reason beside big Pharma’s profit margin to be dosing children with the shit. Why do you think Monsanto fights so hard against labeling GMOs ? Those who want to eat Glyphosate can eat all they want but the fact is if they labeled it nobody would buy it on
    purpose. The yield bs Golden rice was going to save the world for the last 15 years , talk about junk science. Capitalism is not good science. It doesn’t boost yield it pollutes heirloom seed stock, that’s what it was designed for to monopolize the world’s food source for profit.
    If you doubt this I have a challenge for you try to find some non GMO Glyphosate free corn. It is in every fucking thing including indigenous peoples breast milk.

    Mercury is used in medicines to prevent bacterial contamination. Mercury is dangerous because it remains in your body and can build to toxic levels. Not all mercury is the same though. Mercury in the form of thimersol is/was used in vaccines (it’s no longer used in children’s vaccines). Thimersol does not remain in the body so there’s no buildup and therefore it does no harm as studies have shown.

    I’m not going to get into yet another discussion about GMO vs Organics. I’ll just leave this here. Read it if you want.

    http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/science-sushi/httpblogsscientificamericancomscience-sushi20110718mythbusting-101-organic-farming-conventional-agriculture/

    That’s not my debate Nittany, My question is why does Monsanto fight so hard against labeling GMO’s ?

    I’m sure it’s because they are afraid it will hurt sales. Anything with a warning label has a stigma attached to it, right? But the thing is, if we are going by the “people have a right to know what’s in their food” arguement then it’s hypocritical to force GMOs to be labeled and not so called “organic” foods. Big Organic uses chemical mutagens and hybridization to alter the DNA of their crops to get desired characteristics. They also use pesticides. Shouldn’t people have a right to know that as well? I mean, when people are willing to pay three times as much for organic food I’m assuming they think they are getting food that’s free of ‘chemicals’ and pesticides. But they’re not. Now, I know there isn’t a single thing harmful about the mutagens Big Organic uses so it shouldn’t be labeled. But the same is true for GMOs. GMOs are the most studied food out there and every reputable study has shown them to be safe. This isn’t about Monsanto for me. I don’t care about Monsanto. I think they should be heavily regulated like I think all big corps should but I do care about GMOs because I think they will be necessary to feed the 10 billion people we will have by 2050 without plowing under the last remaining wild areas and forests of the earth for farm land.

    August 5, 2016 at 6:41 am in reply to: Yeah, I'm done with Jill Stein… #50195
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    bnw wrote:
    nittany ram wrote:

    Thimersol does not remain in the body so there’s no buildup and therefore it does no harm as studies have shown.

    How can you be certain harm is from “buildup” and not simple systemic exposure?

    Because all this stuff has been studied and studied in animal trials and clinical trials with humans. Years and years of research is conducted on a medication before it’s cleared for use. Each vaccine delivers only 25 micrograms of mercury per dose. That dose is too small to do harm but because it’s bound up in thimersol it is excreted and doesn’t stay in the body anyway. And again, children’s vaccines no longer have even this. That doesn’t mean it’s impossible for some people to have a bad reaction to a vaccine. That does happen but it happens very infrequently. The WHO’s (World Health Organization, not the band) numbers show the chances of having a bad reaction to MMR vaccine is less than 1 in a million.

    Vaccines are the single biggest medical breakthrough in the history of mankind and its not even close. The measles vaccine alone has saved over 18 million kids. People have to ask themselves what would they rather do – deal with the minute risk associated with vaccines or deal with polio.

    August 4, 2016 at 10:29 pm in reply to: Isiah58 tweets & vids – some play by play from 8/2 camp #50178
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    I’m not sure there is a right or wrong answer. There are valid arguements why Fisher should already be gone and your arguement of why he shouldn’t is equally valid.

    Before I pass my final judgement I’d like to see what he can do with an actual NFL QB under center instead of what he’s been forced to deal with. Yeah, he chose Foles but nobody could have foreseen that epic meltdown coming.

    August 4, 2016 at 10:18 pm in reply to: Chimps have entered the Stone Age #50177
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    Zooey wrote:

    So they’re not that far behind us.

    Yeah. As a matter of fact, they’re practically indistinguishable from the people of one particular state. I won’t mention any names, but John Denver sang about it fondly (and I’m not talking about Colorado).

    August 4, 2016 at 7:49 pm in reply to: Chimps have entered the Stone Age #50171
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    bnw wrote:

    Then unless they haven’t observed humans while in the wild that is interesting. Could use of fire be close? Imagine chimps running around setting stuff alight for shits and giggles.

    They are still limited. Don’t expect to see cave paintings or rudimentary jewelry anytime soon but apparently they’ve been using stone tools for thousands of years.

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    August 4, 2016 at 7:35 pm in reply to: Chimps have entered the Stone Age #50169
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    They are.

    August 4, 2016 at 7:03 pm in reply to: Farr will be Rams in-game sideline reporter #50165
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    Nice. They eventually need to get Farr in the booth though. He’s good.

    August 4, 2016 at 6:59 pm in reply to: any Game of Thrones guys here? #50164
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    zn wrote:
    nittany ram wrote:

    I’m not a fan of clothes where the main appeal is the corporate logo of the company that made it, but I think I would wear this shirt


    I wonder what’s on the t-shirt of the guy who played Ramsay Bolton.

    The possibilities are of course endless. Like

    AND PEOPLE THOUGHT MY DAD WAS A PSYCHOTIC SADIST

    “Ramsay Bolton…your dogs will taste the difference.”

    August 4, 2016 at 6:03 pm in reply to: Isiah58 tweets & vids – some play by play from 8/2 camp #50159
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    Great camp info! Thanks, Isiah. Keep it coming.

    In your opinion, is there a benchmark that Snisher needs to reach to keep their jobs and what is it? Would you want them re-upped under any circumstances or do you have a threshold?

    August 4, 2016 at 5:47 pm in reply to: Camp reporters on G.Robinson so far #50158
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    zn wrote:
    nittany ram wrote:

    Well, that’s mostly encouraging.

    I will keep adding to (and bumping) that post as things come in.

    Some people say, a camp report can’t tell you anything.

    Maybe. But my experience is, if you follow the RANGE of different comments from different people, it gives you a pretty good idea about many different things. So of course the trick is to put them all in a bucket and then see how much it weighs.

    Yes, the range is helpful, but in regards to camp reports I find the standard deviation and coefficient of variation to be the most useful.

    August 4, 2016 at 5:05 pm in reply to: Camp reporters on G.Robinson so far #50155
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    Well, that’s mostly encouraging.

    They should put him up against Quinn on every snap. When he can consistently win that battle then we’ll know we got ourselves a tackle.

    August 4, 2016 at 4:46 pm in reply to: any Game of Thrones guys here? #50153
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    I’m not a fan of clothes where the main appeal is the corporate logo of the company that made it, but I think I would wear this shirt…

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    August 4, 2016 at 7:05 am in reply to: Yeah, I'm done with Jill Stein… #50124
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    Eternal Ramnation wrote:

    The problem is she’s an MD. and is not an anti-vac. She is anti corporate control over drug safety which is a good thing. Science ? The science on mercury is undeniable , it is not healthy and there is no reason beside big Pharma’s profit margin to be dosing children with the shit. Why do you think Monsanto fights so hard against labeling GMOs ? Those who want to eat Glyphosate can eat all they want but the fact is if they labeled it nobody would buy it on
    purpose. The yield bs Golden rice was going to save the world for the last 15 years , talk about junk science. Capitalism is not good science. It doesn’t boost yield it pollutes heirloom seed stock, that’s what it was designed for to monopolize the world’s food source for profit.
    If you doubt this I have a challenge for you try to find some non GMO Glyphosate free corn. It is in every fucking thing including indigenous peoples breast milk.

    Mercury is used in medicines to prevent bacterial contamination. Mercury is dangerous because it remains in your body and can build to toxic levels. Not all mercury is the same though. Mercury in the form of thimersol is/was used in vaccines (it’s no longer used in children’s vaccines). Thimersol does not remain in the body so there’s no buildup and therefore it does no harm as studies have shown.

    I’m not going to get into yet another discussion about GMO vs Organics. I’ll just leave this here. Read it if you want.

    http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/science-sushi/httpblogsscientificamericancomscience-sushi20110718mythbusting-101-organic-farming-conventional-agriculture/

    August 3, 2016 at 5:48 pm in reply to: Is Trump for real? #50072
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    bnw wrote:

    “societal convention” if that means Political Correctness then yes flaunting it is common sense and long overdue.

    Well, I don’t think it’s ok to be an asshole to people, and usually when people complain about PC that’s what they are defending…the right to be an asshole to people.

    August 3, 2016 at 5:39 pm in reply to: Is Trump for real? #50070
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    waterfield wrote:
    Zooey wrote:
    sdram wrote:

    I didn’t pay much attention to the primaries – I was busy flossing or something. Now that I’ve retired I’m catching up on all kinds of stuff. Next week, I’m going to re-grout the bathroom tile in the guest room.

    So the town hall or whatever with the crying baby yesterday. Seemed like he thought about his initial response which may or may not have been sarcastic – I couldn’t tell. And then he told the lady to get her crying baby out of the room in front of a room full of his supporters. How does that help him in any way? Shouldn’t he try to be little bit more charming when the room is full of people who think they want to vote for him. He wants them to vote for him right?

    He could have held and smiled at the baby – kissed the baby – breathed on the baby – or even just ignored it. Instead this predisposed villain kind of pops out at almost every turn. His whole campaign seems like a scam for some reason to me.

    I’d love to help you with the grout project. Tiling has become one of my favorite remodeling gigs. Unless that tile is really small mosaic work, in which case, I’m busy. I’d just tear that out and start over rather than put that much elbow grease into it.

    On the baby, I think Trump has actually grown into this persona. As Orwell said, if you wear a mask, your face grows to fit it. His instinct as Presidential Candidate Trump is to play the bully now. He is kind of trapped by that persona. But see
this is the part that makes me question, like you, whether he is serious or not. Because if he REALLY wanted to win, he would have chosen another response, or ignored the baby altogether. He has to know that he needs to get MORE supporters than whom he already has, and he isn’t going to gain MORE support by being a bully. He already has the crowd that is going to respond to the black and white, firm, authoritarian, me-first schtick. To win, he needs to get some of the more moderate folks, and that means kissing some babies along the way. He HAS to know that.

    Unfortunately Zooey-I think your wrong. People in this country have come to love the bully. People hear a baby cry in church “want” to say take the baby out of her. Same with people in a theater and a restaurant, etc. But they don’t. People identify with the guy and wish they could do the same thing. Were a country in love with ass holes. That’s my theory and I’m sticking to it.

    I think you are right. I think the fact that trump is willing to flaunt societal convention is a big turn on for his supporters. The GOP will either grin and bear it or switch sides like Whitman has.

    August 3, 2016 at 5:28 pm in reply to: Yeah, I'm done with Jill Stein… #50067
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    bnw wrote:
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    bnw wrote:

    Many people are harmed by vaccines. Giving babies so many vaccines at the same time or over such a short period of time doesn’t seem safe to me. So much trouble with it there has to be a “Vaccine Court”.

    Actually the number of people harmed by vaccines is incredibly low especially when you consider the millions of people vaccinated each year.

    http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/feb/03/bob-sears/what-cdc-statistics-say-about-vaccine-illnesses-in/

    Then why the need for a “Vaccine Court”?

    I wasn’t aware it existed before you mentioned it. From what I’ve read it was established in response to a scare over the DPT vaccine in the mid eighties although medical professionals at the time believed the scare to be unfounded. It is a civil court. Some big awards were handed out to plaintiffs and many vaccine manufacturers stopped making the DPT vaccine in response. You only need to have a preponderance of evidence that whatever harm you experienced was caused by the vaccine. And you’re convincing a judge, not a panel of scientists, doctors or vaccine experts. Most cases they get are dismissed anyway.

    If someone is truly injured by a vaccine I have no problem with them being financially compensated although that can be hard to prove one way or the other.

    August 3, 2016 at 1:08 pm in reply to: Yeah, I'm done with Jill Stein… #50034
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    bnw wrote:

    Many people are harmed by vaccines. Giving babies so many vaccines at the same time or over such a short period of time doesn’t seem safe to me. So much trouble with it there has to be a “Vaccine Court”.

    Actually the number of people harmed by vaccines is incredibly low especially when you consider the millions of people vaccinated each year.

    http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/feb/03/bob-sears/what-cdc-statistics-say-about-vaccine-illnesses-in/

    August 3, 2016 at 12:40 pm in reply to: Yeah, I'm done with Jill Stein… #50028
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    wv wrote:
    nittany ram wrote:
    wv wrote:

    I’m still with Jill. My interpretation is similar to some of the folks that commented after the article. I think basically she’s saying “lets take these questions/concerns seriously, and not just blow them off, and lets do more research on these issues.” And i agree with that approach. I also dont have a problem with her view of computers/corporations/profit/schools.

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    That’s fine. There are still more issues in which I agree with Jill than disagree.

    But this fear of wifi stuff is ridiculous. The incidence rate of brain cancer is no higher now than prior to the incidence of wifi. And it hasn’t been ‘blown off’. Countless studies have shown there is no link. As pervasive as wifi is today, if it caused cancer, there would be a huge increase in cases. But that hasn’t happened. This is not a question that should be continue to be taken seriously because it simply isn’t supported by data.

    Should we continue to spend time and resources determining whether the Earth is round because some people continue to take that question seriously?

    —————-

    I dont think we should spend time/money on determining whether the Earth is round. I have no problem with spending time/money on checking out aspects of Wi-Fi and its possible effects on life-forms. I know nothing about the wi-fi issue btw. This is the first I’ve heard of it.

    If i have to choose between a Green-Partier who is a bit overly cautious or a bit wary of vaccines/wi-fi/whatever, but who will stop the deadly War On the Poor and the Corporate War on the Biosphere — and Hillary/Trump — I’ll take the Green-Partier every time.

    Blah blah blah, politics, blah. Not trying to convince/persuade. Just a post here and there, sharing my ‘own’ small, personal, subjective view.

    btw, when i was camping i saw a swarm of yellow swallow-tail butterflies
    have a little conference on a patch of sand near a river. Must have been
    about fifty of them. Just sitting there, all together in a circle. I think
    they were talking about the election.

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    About 70000 people or so in the US die of vaccine preventable diseases each year. Many of them are poor. Stein’s stance fans the flames of anti-vaccination propaganda that contributes to that number. In this sense she is hurting the poor by not being a proponent of vaccinations. She’s hurting the very people she means to help. Sort of a friendly fire event in defence the poor.

    August 3, 2016 at 9:39 am in reply to: Yeah, I'm done with Jill Stein… #49999
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    wv wrote:

    I’m still with Jill. My interpretation is similar to some of the folks that commented after the article. I think basically she’s saying “lets take these questions/concerns seriously, and not just blow them off, and lets do more research on these issues.” And i agree with that approach. I also dont have a problem with her view of computers/corporations/profit/schools.

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    That’s fine. There are still more issues in which I agree with Jill than disagree.

    But this fear of wifi stuff is ridiculous. The incidence rate of brain cancer is no higher now than prior to the incidence of wifi. And it hasn’t been ‘blown off’. Countless studies have shown there is no link. As pervasive as wifi is today, if it caused cancer, there would be a huge increase in cases. But that hasn’t happened. This is not a question that should be continue to be taken seriously because it simply isn’t supported by data.

    Should we continue to spend time and resources determining whether the Earth is round because some people continue to take that question seriously?

    August 2, 2016 at 4:56 pm in reply to: Yeah, I'm done with Jill Stein… #49942
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    zn wrote:

    Well
should I vaccinate my computer or not?

    Well, yeah if you don’t wanna computer virus…

    August 2, 2016 at 11:10 am in reply to: Rams will be run heavy this year #49928
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    The Minnesota exception is interesting. Teddy Bridgewater did ok, but there is a huge discrepancy in pass yards and QB rating between him and the QB’s on those other top running teams, which is the reason why they were ranked 29th in total offense.

    I can see the Rams under Goff this season being a lot like Minnesota. The parallels between the two are striking. Both feature young highly-touted college QBs, an offense built around a premier RB and exceptional defenses. If the Rams can just get efficient, mistake free play from the offense they could probably win 9 or 10 games like Minnesota did last year.

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    August 1, 2016 at 6:50 am in reply to: coming uniform change? #49871
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    I’m all for blue and white, but why change the logo colors several years before the uniform colors change? Isn’t it odd for the logo not to match the uniform?

    July 31, 2016 at 10:35 pm in reply to: Humpback whales around the globe are mysteriously rescuing animals from orcas #49861
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    Very cool. Here’s more on that…

    http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/07/humpbacks-protect-seals-and-other-animals-killer-whales-why

    July 31, 2016 at 10:05 am in reply to: "War against the Poor" #49832
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    Zooey wrote:

    And all throughout the Dem Conv, I noted hearing about the Middle Class again and again and again. To the Democrats, the Middle Class seems to be synonymous with the “bottom 90%.”

    Poor people are so unpopular, talking about relieving their poverty with programs is so unpopular, they never got mentioned. The closest thing, iirc, was saying that a person who works 40 hours a week should get paid a living wage.

    Otherwise
invisible.

    That’s because in America, poverty is considered a self-inflicted wound.

    July 31, 2016 at 7:02 am in reply to: "War against the Poor" #49828
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    Anyway, it’s not that people deliberately say “bring misery to the poor by policy.”

    Yeah, but policy decisions are made knowing full well they will harm the poor as a consequence. That’s more than just neglecting or ignoring the well being of the poor, to me. To me that’s an attack on the poor.

    So yeah, semantics.

    Whether the Viet Nam conflict was a war or police action is meaningless to the villagers of Mai Lai. The outcome was the same, so I wish people wouldn’t get tied up by semantics and focus on the real issue.

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    July 30, 2016 at 6:54 pm in reply to: "War against the Poor" #49791
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    wv wrote:
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    It wouldn’t accomplish much to lecture him about zoology and paleontology and evolution and point out we’re not monkeys.

    Actually, humans are talking monkeys. Unlike the outdated Linnean taxonomic hierarchies modern taxonomic systems are based on evolutionary history so a named group would include the common ancestor and all of its descendants. Since humans are apes and apes are descended from a monkey progenitor, then humans are also monkeys. Technically, we’re all sarcopterygii (lobe-finned fish) as well, since this group gave rise to the tetrapods which is the group that includes all reptiles, birds and mammals.

    So not only are humans talking monkeys, we’re also talking lobe-finned fish
technically speaking. Obviously it’s usually not useful to talk about humans in these terms but we are sarcopterygii.

    ———

    I can trace my family all the way back to a small pool of primordial ooze,
    in the Naples Italy region. Just so you know.

    Where did ‘life’ come from Mr Science?

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    ‘Where’ is the one of the easier questions about the origin of life. It either came from Earth or originated somewhere else and was transported to Earth. Probably somewhere around the Naples area.

    ‘When’ depends on who you ask. It ranges from 3.65 – 4 billion years ago.

    ‘How’ is the toughy. No one knows for sure. But it probably began with lipids coacervating in water trapping organic molecules within the ‘membrane’…

    http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/origsoflife_04

    July 30, 2016 at 2:30 pm in reply to: "War against the Poor" #49778
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    It wouldn’t accomplish much to lecture him about zoology and paleontology and evolution and point out we’re not monkeys.

    Actually, humans are talking monkeys. Unlike the outdated Linnean taxonomic hierarchies modern taxonomic systems are based on evolutionary history so a named group would include the common ancestor and all of its descendants. Since humans are apes and apes are descended from a monkey progenitor, then humans are also monkeys. Technically, we’re all sarcopterygii (lobe-finned fish) as well, since this group gave rise to the tetrapods which is the group that includes all reptiles, birds and mammals.

    So not only are humans talking monkeys, we’re also talking lobe-finned fish…technically speaking. Obviously it’s usually not useful to talk about humans in these terms but we are sarcopterygii.

    July 29, 2016 at 11:50 pm in reply to: The democrats have their Dole. #49719
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    snowman wrote:

    The field of republican nominees, all 16 of them, were so weak, so pathetic, so unqualified, so unlikeable, so damaged that all Trump had to do was shine a light on their shortcomings. A conservative friend of mine in Vermont said you have to be an egomaniac to run for president, all the sane people who value their privacy, family life and a relatively normal existence will not run. There’s a lot of truth in that, though he feels Bernie was the exception, a real and well-meaning person.

    A conservative in Vermont?

    There have been reports. Alleged sightings. Supposed footprints. Grainy, out of focus photographs of ‘something’, stories of encounters…but these have mostly been dismissed as hoaxes perpetuated by attention seekers or the feverish rantings of the insane.

    Snow, if you could provide some tangible evidence of your conservative friend..a lock of hair, some scat, a voter registration card or anything of substance it could go a long way to solving this mystery once and for all.

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