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  • October 8, 2015 at 5:08 pm in reply to: Reporters on the OL, including PFF OL grades after week 4 #31971
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    I’m not saying the Rams o-line would look good otherwise, but the great defenses the Rams have faced have contributed to that 25th ranking. It’s much harder to open holes against Seattle and Arizona than it is against Cleveland and Chicago, and few teams have had as tough a schedule through the first four games as the Rams.

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    October 8, 2015 at 11:27 am in reply to: Nick Fairley #31967
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    wv wrote:
    nittany ram wrote:
    wv wrote:
    lyser wrote:

    That is a hell of a D line. Jeezus.

    Well, i dunno. They are still getting
    gouged by the run it looks like.
    Havent perused the stats on that though.

    w
    v

    Yeah. But it’s not like backs are consistently getting 5 yards a carry against them. They give up nothing for 10 plays and then get gouged by a 20 or 30 yarder. I think it’s also hard for us to always know who is at fault for the big runs…is it the DL or is it the LBs, etc.

    But we do see maddening breakdowns at times.

    Frustrating.

    Of course, all d-lines get gouged sometimes. Dorsett and Foreman had some big days against those great Rams d-lines of the 70’s.

    Well all i know iz, this group aint the Sapp-Bucs or
    the Saragusa-Ravens. It aint that kind of ‘great.’

    Its dangerous and talented…and a bit flawed somehow,
    it seems.

    w
    v

    I agree there is a flaw in the Rams run defense. I’m just not sure if the flaw resides within the d-line. It very well may, but I don’t know.

    Can the issues be traced to individual players? Is it the scheme?

    When you give up big runs, every level of the defense is involved…d-line, LBs, safeties…

    October 8, 2015 at 11:08 am in reply to: Nick Fairley #31964
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    wv wrote:
    lyser wrote:

    That is a hell of a D line. Jeezus.

    Well, i dunno. They are still getting
    gouged by the run it looks like.
    Havent perused the stats on that though.

    w
    v

    Yeah. But it’s not like backs are consistently getting 5 yards a carry against them. They give up nothing for 10 plays and then get gouged by a 20 or 30 yarder. I think it’s also hard for us to always know who is at fault for the big runs…is it the DL or is it the LBs, etc.

    But we do see maddening breakdowns at times.

    Frustrating.

    Of course, all d-lines get gouged sometimes. Dorsett and Foreman had some big days against those great Rams d-lines of the 70’s.

    October 8, 2015 at 10:00 am in reply to: Nick Fairley #31959
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    zn wrote:
    lyser wrote:

    He backs up both or just AD?

    Just AD. Westbrooks backs up Brockers. Also, Donald is on the field a lot because they put him at at the nose in 3-3 sets in passing situations.

    It could be that Fairley’s lack of PT is simply a matter of Donald playing so well without requiring much rest. It may have nothing to do with Fairley at all. The coaches may be happy with Fairley’s effort. He may be everything they hoped he would be. Donald’s just a lot better. And there’s no shame in that because Donald is a lot better than everyone.

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    October 7, 2015 at 7:25 pm in reply to: Prediction Thread: Green Bay Packers #31930
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    wv wrote:
    nittany ram wrote:
    NERam wrote:

    And, Nittany isn’t REALLY a Flamer, is he? Nah, can’t be. You guys are mistaking him for someone else, I’m thinkin.

    Good eye, NE. Your suspicions are correct. I’m not a flamer, and wv and zooey are just bitter little men. Bitter, bitter little men.

    But you saw them for what they are right away, and for that I am thankful.

    =========================

    Hey dont lump me in with
    Zooey “preheat the oven to 350 for hardbacks” Deadalus.
    I didnt say who was the flamer, exactly.
    I left it open to interpretation.

    w
    v

    Ah yes, the salad days on the old rivals site.

    Good times.
    =====
    Rams 27, Packers 24. Gurley has an even bigger day than he did in Arizona.

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    October 7, 2015 at 6:16 pm in reply to: Prediction Thread: Green Bay Packers #31928
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    NERam wrote:

    And, Nittany isn’t REALLY a Flamer, is he? Nah, can’t be. You guys are mistaking him for someone else, I’m thinkin.

    Good eye, NE. Your suspicions are correct. I’m not a flamer, and wv and zooey are just bitter little men. Bitter, bitter little men.

    But you saw them for what they are right away, and for that I am thankful.

    October 7, 2015 at 9:50 am in reply to: Prediction Thread: Green Bay Packers #31910
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    Zooey wrote:

    I think Green Bay is going to look back on this game as their most humbling of the season.

    Because they so thoroughly destroy the Rams that they begin to question a lifestyle driven by violence so they join a Tibetan monastery where they take a vow of humility?

    October 6, 2015 at 7:46 pm in reply to: week 5 stats, including "Rams have played 3 top 5 defenses" #31858
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    lyser wrote:

    Personally I think Pitt Panthers rock the house over both mountanqueers and nittany Lyons. Just saying

    <Sigh> Pittiot.

    October 6, 2015 at 4:18 pm in reply to: week 5 stats, including "Rams have played 3 top 5 defenses" #31848
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    wv wrote:

    I am bothered by the 1969, 23-20, playoff
    loss to the Vikings.

    Still.

    w
    v

    Do any of these games bother ya?

    October 15, 1904 Penn State 34 West Virginia 0
    November 25, 1905 Penn State 6 West Virginia 0
    November 23, 1906 Penn State 11 West Virginia 0
    October 24, 1908 Penn State 12 West Virginia 0
    November 13, 1909 Penn State 40 West Virginia 0
    October 12, 1940 Penn State 17 West Virginia 13
    November 15, 1941 Penn State 7 West Virginia 0
    October 30, 1943 Penn State 32 West Virginia 7
    October 25, 1947 Penn State 21 West Virginia 14
    October 16, 1948 Penn State 37 West Virginia 7
    November 5, 1949 Penn State 34 West Virginia 14
    November 11, 1950 Penn State 27 West Virginia 0
    October 27, 1951 Penn State 13 West Virginia 7
    October 11, 1952 Penn State 35 West Virginia 21
    October 27, 1956 Penn State 16 West Virginia 6
    November 2, 1957 Penn State 27 West Virginia 6
    October 31, 1959 Penn State 28 West Virginia 10
    October 29, 1960 Penn State 34 West Virginia 13
    November 11, 1961 Penn State 20 West Virginia 6
    November 10, 1962 Penn State 34 West Virginia 6
    October 26, 1963 Penn State 20 West Virginia 9
    October 24, 1964 Penn State 37 West Virginia 8
    October 23, 1965 Penn State 44 West Virginia 6
    October 22, 1966 Penn State 38 West Virginia 6
    October 21, 1967 Penn State 21 West Virginia 14
    October 5, 1968 Penn State 31 West Virginia 20
    October 11, 1969 Penn State 20 West Virginia 0
    October 31, 1970 Penn State 42 West Virginia 8
    October 30, 1971 Penn State 35 West Virginia 7
    October 28, 1972 Penn State 28 West Virginia 19
    October 27, 1973 Penn State 62 West Virginia 14
    October 26, 1974 Penn State 21 West Virginia 12
    October 11, 1975 Penn State 39 West Virginia 0
    October 23, 1976 Penn State 33 West Virginia 0
    October 22, 1977 Penn State 49 West Virginia 28
    October 29, 1978 Penn State 49 West Virginia 21
    October 27, 1979 Penn State 31 West Virginia 6
    October 25, 1980 Penn State 20 West Virginia 15
    October 24, 1981 Penn State 30 West Virginia 7
    October 23, 1982 Penn State 24 West Virginia 0
    October 22, 1983 Penn State 41 West Virginia 23
    October 26, 1985 Penn State 25 West Virginia 0
    November 1, 1986 Penn State 19 West Virginia 0
    October 31, 1987 Penn State 25 West Virginia 21
    November 4, 1989 Penn State 19 West Virginia 9
    November 3, 1990 Penn State 31 West Virginia 19
    October 26, 1991 Penn State 51 West Virginia 6
    October 24, 1992 Penn State 40 West Virginia 26

    October 6, 2015 at 9:44 am in reply to: week 5 stats, including "Rams have played 3 top 5 defenses" #31838
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    Agamemnon wrote:

    I doubt that Washington stays at number 6, even with their easy schedule. The Washington game still really bothers me. We need to win those games.

    The Steelers game bothers me more because of the way they lost…making stupid mistakes.

    Washington doesn’t bother as much because they just physically whupped the Rams that day.

    October 6, 2015 at 9:34 am in reply to: Gordon on Foles #31836
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    Yeah, Foles will never have the pure passing skills Bradford has, but Bradford doesn’t have Foles’ improvisational skills. Bradford would not have made that throw to Tavon with the pump fake.

    October 5, 2015 at 1:20 pm in reply to: Class of the NFC #31790
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    nittany ram wrote:

    Atlanta looks tough. Not convinced Carolina is all that.

    Carolina’s schedule hasn’t been very impressive up to now but then again neither was Arizona’s and they were considered the class of the NFC…key word being ‘were’.

    October 5, 2015 at 1:20 pm in reply to: Class of the NFC #31789
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    Atlanta looks tough. Not convinced Carolina is all that.

    Carolina’s schedule hasn’t been very impressive up to now but then again neither was Arizona’s and they were considered the class of the NFC…the key word being ‘were’.

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    October 4, 2015 at 10:45 pm in reply to: WOW … (official Cards game after-thread) #31740
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    Did Quick play at all?

    October 4, 2015 at 8:10 pm in reply to: WOW … (official Cards game after-thread) #31717
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    Zooey wrote:

    This win was less dominant that the win over Seattle, imo.

    Well, it may have been less dominant, but it was a victory over a superior team than the Seahawks and it was on the road too.

    I know that Raiders loss is probably still stinging, but that’s no reason to come here and run down the Rams on our own message board.

    October 4, 2015 at 8:06 pm in reply to: WOW … (official Cards game after-thread) #31716
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    PA Ram wrote:

    On a bad note: Ogletree needs surgery

    Nick Wagoner ‏@nwagoner 51s52 seconds ago
    Rams coach Jeff Fisher said LB Alec Ogletree will require ankle surgery. Could be candidate for IR with designation to return but unsure now

    During the broadcast they said it was an ankle injury and that he might return to game?

    Bigtime misinformation there…

    October 4, 2015 at 8:03 pm in reply to: WOW … (official Cards game after-thread) #31714
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    After looking hopeless in the first half, the o-line finally got the zone blocking scheme working in the second, and against a pretty stout front 7 that was well rested from not being on the field that much.

    Maybe this is the beginning of good things for that o-line.

    October 4, 2015 at 3:49 pm in reply to: Oregon shootings #31703
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    zn wrote:
    Zooey wrote:

    I thought more than a million died in the Civil War. I was way off.

    I didn’t realize american wars were that lackluster.

    Is it coaching? Or talent? Or leadership?

    Well, when you go into battle with two first year generals, one second year general, a general who’s never commanded before and one general who’s solid but always hurt, you’re not going to kill as many people as you should.

    October 3, 2015 at 1:12 pm in reply to: Givens traded to Baltimore for future pick… #31612
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    joemad wrote:

    I guess Brian Quick is ready…

    Ravens got a good deal 7th rounder.

    Couldn’t the Rams get at least a 7th for Pead?

    Unfortunately, neither Pead nor Givens had numbers that would suggest they were worth more than that. Very little production out of either, although at least Givens flashed his deep threat ability on occasion.

    October 3, 2015 at 10:35 am in reply to: Wagoner: Run-first Rams' struggle go beyond the basics #31596
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    rfl wrote:

    So in addition to relying on rookie OL, Fisher’s brain trust shifted to a new zone blocking scheme which, in the OC’s words, takes precise synchronization between the players. And no one has run it before.

    All after insisting that this year we needed to start fast.

    A couple weeks back, I pointed out that relying on a rookie OL and seeking a fast start with a really tough early schedule were contradictory. I was told that I was being silly.

    I think the record bears out the simple observation that this regime runs miles to avoid taking responsibility for actually winning games.

    But, you you know, they’re … close. Oh, so close. One of these days …

    I share your frustration.

    But Fisher isn’t stupid. He couldn’t have survived as a HC in the ultra-competitive NFL for two decades if he was. If we see the folly of relying on rookies to master a new complex blocking scheme then must have seen it too. I mean, certainly Fisher understood the potential pitfalls of such a move.

    I think Fisher is still building for the future. He’s not in “win now” mode, because he knows he doesn’t have to be. His job is as secure as Belicheck’s. So he’s building every aspect of this team exactly the way he wants it without compromise while knowing he’s going to take some lumps in the process. He’s doing this because he knows he doesn’t have to win now.

    Fisher knows he’s gonna see every year of his contract. This is especially true if the Rams relocate. He’s in no hurry. We are but he isn’t.

    And who knows, maybe in the long run that’s a good thing.

    October 2, 2015 at 8:17 pm in reply to: Oregon shootings #31580
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    More people in U.S. killed by shootings in my lifetime than were killed in all U.S. wars combined…

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2013/jan/18/mark-shields/pbs-commentator-mark-shields-says-more-killed-guns/

    October 2, 2015 at 3:51 pm in reply to: Prediction thread: Arizona Cardinals #31561
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    zn wrote:
    Zooey wrote:

    I thought we got rid of all Raiders fans from this forum. What’s Nittany still doing here?

    Without freedom of speech, we would not have examples of how bad you can look when you espouse an unworthy cause, like being a Raiders fan.

    We call it the “but for the grace of god” policy.

    .

    Well, the Raiders are 2-1 so…

    October 1, 2015 at 6:01 pm in reply to: 101, 10/1 … John Robinson, Kurt, Wagoner, Mariucci #31526
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    John Robinson was one of my favs.

    October 1, 2015 at 5:24 pm in reply to: Prediction thread: Arizona Cardinals #31523
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    Zooey wrote:

    The Cardinals will look back on this game as one for which they wish that they had never suited up.

    Because they so thoroughly destroy the Rams that they recoil in horror much like the captain and crew of the Enola Gay?

    October 1, 2015 at 5:20 pm in reply to: Talent v … other stuff–your views? #31522
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    I believe the Rams have better talent than most teams in the league at most of the key positions.

    The problem is the o-line is struggling and that may be simply due to their youth and lack of experience.

    Or it may be because they just aren’t very good. We really don’t know yet. Saffold is a good player when healthy. That’s all we can be sure of. The rest of them are complete unknowns as far as what they will eventually become.

    But right now they aren’t very good and that’s the main thing holding this team back.

    Personally, I think these coaches are good enough to win with although I’m not as enamored with Fisher as I was in 2012.

    October 1, 2015 at 5:12 pm in reply to: Nick Foles says the Rams' offensive struggles start with him #31521
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    Foles is doing his duty like the team leader should by placing the responsibility for the poor offensive performances the last two weeks on his own shoulders.

    And his game does have some room for improvement.

    But the main issue plaguing this offense is the lack of production in the running game due to the struggles of the o-line. The offense won’t get significantly better until the o-line improves.

    September 28, 2015 at 7:08 pm in reply to: Rams sign Toon to PS, move McGee to reg roster, and cut Pead. #31384
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    Zooey wrote:
    nittany ram wrote:
    Agamemnon wrote:

    REPORT: St. Louis Rams Will Sign WR Nick Toon

    The obvious suggested implication? WR Brian Quick is done. After the serious shoulder and rotator cuff injury he suffered last year, he nearly had his career cut short for him:

    Well, does it necessarily mean Quick is finished? Perhaps it’s just a case of Fisher looking for immediate help for an offense averaging 8 pts a game over the last two weeks.

    Quick may still figure into his plans when he’s finally back to full speed, if that happens.

    Well, somebody is done. Presumably a WR.

    Another shoe is sailing earthward now.

    Yeah, or maybe Quick is going on IR.

    September 28, 2015 at 4:18 pm in reply to: Rams sign Toon to PS, move McGee to reg roster, and cut Pead. #31380
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    Agamemnon wrote:

    REPORT: St. Louis Rams Will Sign WR Nick Toon

    The obvious suggested implication? WR Brian Quick is done. After the serious shoulder and rotator cuff injury he suffered last year, he nearly had his career cut short for him:

    Well, does it necessarily mean Quick is finished? Perhaps it’s just a case of Fisher looking for immediate help for an offense averaging 8 pts a game over the last two weeks.

    Quick may still figure into his plans when he’s finally back to full speed, if that happens.

    September 27, 2015 at 3:12 pm in reply to: gameday thread: chat room room down…& also here, link to game stream #31288
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    The question then becomes, why make Kendricks a focal point of your passing game when he has a thumb splint?

    September 27, 2015 at 2:54 pm in reply to: gameday thread: chat room room down…& also here, link to game stream #31280
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    Kendricks!!!!

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