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nittany ramModeratorI salute those who could withstand 4 full quarters of that torture.
Well, i think a TRUE DieHard Ram fan
would become a Raider fan at this point.
Just on principle.w
vFortunately I’ve been a Raiders fan in good standing for some time now. Zooey put in a good word for me. I already know the catch phrases and the secret handshake.
So when all you newbies come to the next meeting try not to embarrass me.
nittany ramModeratorWell, I didn’t watch the game and spent the time doing schoolwork instead. I did tune in during the 3rd quarter long enough to see the score was 31-7 and watch Foles float a pass over Gurley’s head on 3rd and 3. That was enough.
I salute those who could withstand 4 full quarters of that torture.
nittany ramModeratorHappy birthday, NE!1
nittany ramModeratorMy wife is working until 4 EST so I’m doing the cooking this year.
For the first time ever.
Sweet potatoes, mashed potatoes and the green bean casserole are made and standing by.
The turkey is stuffed and in the oven.
Still have to make gravy, crescent rolls, corn and open up a can of the semi-solid gelled cranberry sauce (which is the best kind of cranberry sauce).
If you don’t hear from me again it means I’m probably dead from Salmonella poisoning.
It’s been an honor.
I have to run out for more corn. My wife never buys enough corn. 11.5 years of marriage and you’d think she’d know how much corn I like to eat.
Seems like you already know this but I wanted to comment yesterday but was called away. Why risk the stuffing? Too much of a chance for the meat to become dry before the stuffing can reach a safe temp. Besides, no bird can hold enough stuffing eaten at my house. Make the stuffing, I guess dressing, separate in the oven. Just some unsolicited advice.
I’m no expert but the stuffing (it was called ‘filling’ when I lived in central PA) was nice and moist despite being in the turkey. Perhaps because I basted the turkey every 30 minutes and some of the juice was getting in the stuffing? My wife usually makes stuffing for the turkey and also makes another batch she cooks separately but I wasn’t that ambitious.
nittany ramModeratorThe offseason will be interesting.
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vThis may be the most interesting offseason in 20 years.
You have all the questions surrounding the QB and the pass offense in general. There are also tough personnel decisions to be made on defense – the contracts of many good players will be up. Can’t resign them all. Which means this will be another critical draft for the defense as well as the offense.
Then, of course, there’s the move…
nittany ramModeratorMy wife is working until 4 EST so I’m doing the cooking this year.
For the first time ever.
Sweet potatoes, mashed potatoes and the green bean casserole are made and standing by.
The turkey is stuffed and in the oven.
Still have to make gravy, crescent rolls, corn and open up a can of the semi-solid gelled cranberry sauce (which is the best kind of cranberry sauce).
If you don’t hear from me again it means I’m probably dead from Salmonella poisoning.
It’s been an honor.
I have to run out for more corn. My wife never buys enough corn. 11.5 years of marriage and you’d think she’d know how much corn I like to eat.
nittany ramModeratorYeah, Rob Ryan backed out at the last minute. Rams dodged a bullet. To be fair though, Ryan has nothing like the talent in New Orleans that the Rams have.
nittany ramModeratorHappy Birthday, SD!
nittany ramModeratorWell, I don’t want Fisher to be fired. I’m content to let him finish out his contract and see where things stand after next season.
However, I think it’s very premature to give him an extension. He has yet to show that he can build an offense as most of his personnel decisions on offense have not panned out. And of course, tbe decision to trade for Foles was a disaster. I suppose it wasn’t possible for Fisher to know that Foles would be historically bad, however there were plenty of people who thought the trade was a mistake from the start.
I also don’t think Fisher or Rams management thought of this season as a “do over”. I think they expected to be playoff contenders this season.
nittany ramModeratorNo matter what you think of Fisher, you have to admit it’s odd that a coach with a 24 – 34 record is getting an extension. Perhaps it would make sense if the Rams were trending upward, but that’s not the case since it looks like they need a QB and still have other personnel issues on offense.
nittany ramModeratorHere’s hoping that Stedman has a full recovery.
And yet another reason to want to forget this miserable season.
nittany ramModeratorIf Keenum can play I’d stick with him at least one more week. If he can’t go–I’d throw Mannion out there. Foles may give them a better chance to win–but he hasn’t proven it lately–but let’s see what Mannion has. It would be great to evaluate him in some real games and see how he holds up. This team has to know the state of the position going forward. Because right now–it isn’t solved. But I’m not sure any QB can thrive in this offense behind this line.
‘Well, the current state of the o-line is why I wouldn’t play Mannion. I don’t want to subject my inexperienced rookie to that punishment. I’d wait to play him until I thought he had a decent chance to succeed.
I think I’d start Foles. Let’s see if the benching refocused him. Give him a chance to salvage his career.
nittany ramModeratorTelling a trainer to leave the field when he’s accessing the injury status of a player seems like a pretty irresponsible thing for a ref to do.
nittany ramModeratorhaven’t watched the game yet. not sure if i can bring myself to watch it.
one thing. with all these ol injuries is there something the rams coaching staff is or isn’t doing to cause these injuries? or is it just extremely bad luck?
The Rams do seem to be a statistical outlier as far as o-line injuries go.
Or do other teams experience injuries at a similar rate?
I wonder if there is variation based on blocking schemes? For example, is reach zone blocking associated with a higher injury rate than power blocking?
My gut tells me ‘no’ – the Rams have just been unlucky – but I wonder if such a study has ever been done…
nittany ramModeratorFisher is certainly having his worst week since he’s been HC of the Rams. He’s under fire for keeping Keenum in the game…
http://www.turfshowtimes.com/2015/11/23/9782026/st-louis-rams-jeff-fisher-case-keenum-concussion
Enh. I think Fisher has a long record of handling
injured players pretty carefully. Seems like he
always brings them along slowly and gives them
plenty of time to recover.This situation is easy to second-guess after
slow motion replays etc. I just dont
put this on Fisher.w
vIf you watch the video it’s easy to see that Keenum was knocked silly. He couldn’t even get up on his own. Although they don’t show it in the video I think he staggered a bit even after he was on his feet. I don’t know how this got missed. Many people are at fault for allowing Keenum to continue to play but certainly Fisher bears some responsibility.
nittany ramModeratorFisher is certainly having his worst week since he’s been HC of the Rams. He’s under fire for keeping Keenum in the game…
http://www.turfshowtimes.com/2015/11/23/9782026/st-louis-rams-jeff-fisher-case-keenum-concussion
nittany ramModeratorFor me, This is the most disappointing year,
in the last decade or so.Have we hit bottom yet? Is this
bottom ?w
vDisappointing losses are starting to bleed together for me. Hard to distinguish among them. This team leads the league in disappointing losses.
nittany ramModeratorFrankly I didn’t expect them to be IN the game and yet somehow, ugly as it was, they were.
See I expected them to be in the game today because of the defense. I suspect they will be able to keep most games close because of the defense…until they finally get worn down from carrying the entire burden every week.
However, it’s not like they played the 85 Bears today.
They played a team that was 2 – 7. A team that likely will not get many other wins.
I can understand why you thought they’d get blown out but that just speaks to what an utter mess this offense is that you would expect them to get killed by a 2 – 7 team.
And to be truthful the offense was a mess before the injuries started mounting up. It’s been a mess nearly the entire season.
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nittany ramModeratorI am surprised at the emotions over this game.
They had Keenum at qb after Foles melted down, and a young OL that was made even LESS experienced by having to replace (at this point) 5 different starters…Saffold, Brown, Havenstein, then add Williams (last game) and now Donnal to that.
Frankly I didn’t expect them to be IN the game and yet somehow, ugly as it was, they were.
Yet to me the frustration sounds like people who were expecting much more and got disappointed.
I didn’t expect Keenum to fix anything or even play well. As a matter of fact, the results probably would have been the same had Foles started. And that’s why I’m upset – because a guy who probably shouldn’t be on an NFL roster is no worse than the regular starting QB.
I guess this and all the other issues with the offense and the litany of bad decisions regarding it finally came to a head for me today.
November 22, 2015 at 5:50 pm in reply to: Rams tackle Greg Robinson working to correct 'technical' issues #34557
nittany ramModeratorI swear it just looks to me that Robinson daydreams out there sometimes. His head is NOT in the game.
I don’t think he fully knows his assignments. He looks confused to me.
That play where Upshaw beats him is just unbelievable–even the announcer couldn’t believe it. Robinson doesn’t even seem to look at the guy and he’s RIGHT THERE. Only when Upshaw is blowing past him does he turn and swat at him–much too late and he’s left watching the QB go down.
He’s awful.
The Rams might as well resign themselves to the fact that they will need a new LT.
And a guard.
And a QB.
And some WR’s.
And a TE.
Probably a DE.
And a coupla corners.
November 22, 2015 at 5:42 pm in reply to: Rams tackle Greg Robinson working to correct 'technical' issues #34554
nittany ramModeratorI swear it just looks to me that Robinson daydreams out there sometimes. His head is NOT in the game.
I don’t think he fully knows his assignments. He looks confused to me.
nittany ramModeratorMyles Simmons
@MylesASimmons
Got word in locker room Rams QB Case Keenum has been diagnosed with a concussion.Well, the Keenum era comes to a merciful end.
Unfortunately, Foles is next man up.
There’s nothing left to play for. Might as well start Foles the rest of the way and see if he can salvage his career. That way they’ll have a better picture of the QB situation going into next season.
nittany ramModeratorThat’s my fear: by the time they get a decent offense–not great just decent–they’ll have to rebuild the defense. Years of misery ahead. So glad I lived to see them get a ring.
I have serious reservations about whether Fisher can fix the offense. Just about every decision he’s made regarding the offense since he’s been in St Louis has blown up in his face. I think he’s out of his depth.
nittany ramModeratorWell, that was brutal.
But not surprising. The Rams offense is about as ugly as an offense can be. If it was a fish it would be a hagfish or a goblin shark.
The Rams o-line is a mess with injuries and Greg Robinson, who was expected to be the strength of the unit by now still can’t figure out who to block.
It’s no shock that Keenum didn’t play well. I’m not sure he belongs on an NFL roster. Unfortunately with Keenum in the game there was still no noticeable drop-off in performance from Foles.
I’ve had enough of Legatron. The blocked XP was not going to be good anyway. It looked like he hit it too far to the left. And once again he comes up short (actually wide right) in the clutch.
Great defensive effort for the most part. Unfortunately by the time they get this pathetic excuse for an offense squared away the defense will need to be rebuilt.
Hagfish

Goblin sharkNovember 22, 2015 at 4:20 pm in reply to: Rams tackle Greg Robinson working to correct 'technical' issues #34528
nittany ramModeratorAfter seeing the Baltimore game, he’s got a lot more work to do.
nittany ramModeratorYup.
The National media keeps talking about this game
by pointing out the Rams strong Defense,
but they haven’t been factoring in
the Q-factor. It simply AINT
the Ram Defense without Q,
or with a damaged-Q.They need a Max-Q
to be a max-Q defense.
They cant have a min-Q
or no-Q.This is all advanced algebra,
people.D – Q = L
Even if you use Quantum-Kabbalistic-Algebra, and subtract
Foles and add in Keenum, its still
a loss: D – (Q-F) + K = Lw
vBut you forgot to factor in Welker who now is in his second week so he has a better handle on the offense.
D – (Q-F) + K + 2W = w
nittany ramModeratorNo.
Not while the offensive line is doing “Cotton eye Joe” and it’s a new line of dancers every time you blink.
I suspect Baltimore will just line up to stop Gurley and see if Keenum has any better luck than Foles.
Ravens: 16
Rams 10Offensive line? When did that ever matter in football? Besides, Robinson is working to correct his ‘technical’ issues. There’s a whole big article about it.
So relax.
Rams got this.
nittany ramModeratorHumph. Vermont didn’t even make the list.
<mumbles under breath> Damn soft-on-crime liberal progressive state…
nittany ramModeratorYes the Rams can win. As a matter of fact they will win as long as their defense returns to form and they get at least average play from Keenum.
nittany ramModeratorRousey faces 6 month medical suspension…
http://pennstate.247sports.com/Bolt/Rousey-medically-suspended-after-knockout-loss-41179409
Not a sport anyone should stay in
very long. Make yer money and
get the hell out. Lord.We’re all going to hell just
for watching it.w
vHer jaw was broken in three places. Eeeesh.
If I was her, I’d let myself heal, buy a house secluded in the mountains or overlooking a rocky coastline, get fat and play on the internet all day.
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