zn wrote:

For me all of this is completely dependent on personnel.

That’s just how I tend to see it.

Yep, you can be the most competitive guy on the field but without talented personnel it’s tough to win consistently

the Rams scored 28 points in this game… only Dallas scored more against Seattle this season.

Beast Mode only rushed for 50+ yards this game….maybe because the Seahawks were forced to play catch – up….

I vote for ST coach Fassel as the next Rams OC……

But…you started the relationship story without<BR>an analogy about how the girlfriend got to St.Louis<BR>in the first place….. take the story back to 1994, 1993, etc. </P>
<P>w<BR>v</P>

consider the relationship was with Georgia Geiger Johnson Hayes Wyler Rosenbloom Frontier, but she didn’t formally take husband #7s name Weathermax…..

Now Stan wants to return Georgia’s step child back home to So Cal….. where the step son stated, (a step son whom the step mother FIRED)……. “””””Steve Rosenbloom, the general manager of the team during Carroll Rosenbloom’s tenure, opined that teams come and go, but for a team to leave Los Angeles—the second largest media market in America—for St. Louis—approximately the 18th-largest—was simply irresponsible and foolish.”””””

Georgis’s husbands;

Francis J. Geiger
Bruce B. Johnson
Wallace Hayes
William J. Wyler
Carroll Rosenbloom
Dominic Frontier
Earle Weatherwax

i’m ok with the analogy…. the boyfriend promised the girl via contract, that “I shall give you the top 5% stadium to live and play in”… but the boyfriend never made an effort to do so….. The Girl was contractually promised to live on Park Place or at least the Pennsylvania Ave of the NFL Monopoly board, but ended up on Baltic Avenue……

• This reply was modified 9 years, 12 months ago by joemad.

rfl wrote:

<DIV class=d4p-bbt-quote-title>joemad wrote:</DIV>
<P>The bogus offensive Pass Interference call on Dane Cook in the 2nd qtr was a huge momentum turner in that game……Rams should have had 1st and 10 just outside the redzone with about 3 minutes before half that could have extended the 14-3 lead………. , instead, the Rams were forced to punt that set up JJ’s brain freeze on the Niner’s TD right before halftime….</P>

<P>Well, sure. We’ve seen a lot of lousy officiating. Losing teams always do.</P>
<P>But here’s the thing. To earn beneficial officiating a team has to … start winning. And it has to do that BEFORE it starts getting good calls. This is a universal principle of sports. To be winners, a team must overcome bad officiating. Hell, even winners get bad calls.</P>
<P>This is the thing about our lack of competitiveness. When we get a bad break, we fold. We just collapse. You know, these big plays against us on D–they didn’t decide the game. They just faced us with adversity which we have consistently proved unable to overcome. You know that feeling we all get–one play and we feel it slide away? We feel that because it keeps happening. Indeed, the fact that one could say that a bad break in the 2nd Q could cause us to lose … that whole idea rests on the assumption that we would be unable to overcome it in a whole half of football. A correct assumption, BTW.</P>
<P>See, winners don’t think that way. They absorb blows, limit the damage, and figure how to win. That’s what it means to be a winner. You don’t let bad calls in the 2nd Q crush you. </P>

yes, I understand about the need of overcoming adversity and bad officiating…. But it’s tough to do with a 3rd string QB or a QB that has been a journeyman back up most of his career…(not to mention with the youngest roster in the league) There is a reason why those guys are 3rd string or journeyman back ups,,…..You can’t necessarily blame that on coaching, because based on the data the RAMS had in preseason, they chose the most optimal route.

1) You had a ROY QB coming off his best season before he got hurt in Carolina in 2013…. A QB that also played well in 2012….
what did you want the Rams to do to prep for a 2nd ACL injury on their starting QB in 2014 that would have prevented this?…sign Mark Sanchez instead of Hill? Draft Manziel? what would you have done different?

If you think they couldn’t overcome adversity this season, they did a few weeks later in Santa Clara against this same SF team…..

You can’t say that a team playing with 2nd stringer and 3rd QBs while missing Chris Long that defeated Denver, Seattle, and SF, lacks competitiveness…..they certainly didn’t win those games based on talent, but maybe it was coaching.

zn wrote:

Vermiel says
1. He told the 99 team they could go to the superbowl the 1st Monday meeting after the famous SF game.
2. He thinks the GSOT could take this year’s Seattle defense. In fact he says “no question.”

maybe….this year’s Rams beat Seattle…… Tampa’s defense was good, but Shawn King was no Russell Wilson…..Mike Alstott and Warrick Dunn were not as good a Lynch…..

get well soon Mac….. stay hydrated.

wv wrote:

Well, I am not persuaded.
For one thing, I think that view minimizes the “Bill Walsh is an Offensive Genius” factor.
A lot of what Montana did was because Walsh designed such a magnificent offense.
I suspect if you put Russell Wilson on that 49er team, nothing much changes.
Who knows though.
w
v

Montana went to the Championship game in Kansas City and was a concussion away from the Super Bowl that year, and that was without Bill Walsh.
it took Steve Young, (who I think is better than Russell Wilson) some salary cap magic, border line cheating from Carmen Policy to get Steve Young to the Super Bowl.

Montana was a great QB………

I like Wilson, but he was drafted on pretty complete Seahawks teams. You have to consider that even Charlie Whitehurst won playoff games with Seattle.

waterfield wrote:

My response: Integrity of the game? What integrity? It’s played by a bunch of malcontent, maladjusted, violent thugs for the most part who are druggies, rapists, murderers, spousal abusers, on and on.
And we love the game because the uniforms hide it all.

yes, but these charges you note (unless it’s enhancement drugs) do not affect the integrity of the game, meaning it doesn’t give the team or player an edge….

NFL Arrest data base = http://www.utsandiego.com/nfl/arrests-database/

outside of Quinn, Trumain Johnson, Dunbar (charges dropped) the Rams are goodie 2 shoes…… I don’t count pot arrests, since it’s legal in 2 states and consider the physical punishment that these players take, i’d give them pass to hit the bong once in awhile.

Happy Birthday RM….

BTW, is pickem pool ready for next week???? haha.

have a great one!

PA Ram wrote:

;Actually my guy @kurt13warner didn’t tamper w the footballs because he wore gloves. Used to irritate me..So correction, almost all QBs!

1) Maybe Leinart did this at USC with cheating Pete Carroll
2) If Leinart did this in the NFL, it certainly didn’t help him.

I think all this talk is firing up New England… I think they’re going to cream Seattle. R. Wilson played like crap last week……

• This reply was modified 10 years ago by joemad.

Well, i dunno. The post spygate team went 16-0. And came within a miracle throw/catch
of going 19-0 and beating the Giants to win it all.

I just cant minimize that kind of excellence.

I do enjoy loathing them, though.
But i cant dismiss them as ‘cheaters.’

w
v

But when you win…errr out score your opponent in 3 Super Bowls by 3 points vs the Rams, Panthers, and Eagles, all it takes in ONE 3rd stop in each game to make a difference in the game. If you have illegal tapes to help your defense make that 3rd down stop, you win, err outscore your opponent.

I wonder if Brady benefited from deflated football vs the Ravens last week? 1st time all year, the Raven allowed someone to throw for over 400 yards….
Check out Jerome’s thoughts on Spygate:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOVopUUSbrE

So where are the other 9 big plays of the season?

the biggest play of the regular season was the pick Shawn Hill threw right before half and agrivatted his leg vs the Vikings. big momentum turner in game and season.

2nd biggest play was Shawn Hill’s int in San Diego.

1) this guy has less 100 pass attempts in College.

2) a QB needs good study habits: “”””Why should we have to go to class if we came here to play FOOTBALL, we ain’t come to play SCHOOL, classes are POINTLESS ”

—Cardale Jones, Twitter: October 5, 2012

3) There has been no NFL QB worth a damn in the NFL from Ohio State….. see Joe Germaine and Art Schlichter.

Any QB will look good with Zeke Elliot rushing for 249 yards and Oregon Choking in the redzone, Ohio State didn’t win because of Cardale’s 58 passer rating.

zn wrote:

I like Schott actually. But either way, they ain’t gonna hire Martz, I bet. Anyway, onward and upward…we’ll see what they do.

I like him too… look at the last game against Seattle, he did the best with what he had…… Hill throws a pick at a DL. …. Cook drops a sure TD in the endzone, on the same series, Cunningham gets the ball swatted at the goal line. Game was winnable, not Schotty fault at all.

Too bad.

21Dog wrote:

<DIV class=d4p-bbt-quote-title>wv wrote:</DIV>
<P>…i wonder how a move would affect the players?<BR>Distraction? Problems? Pluses? Minuses?</P>
<P>Will they bring the equipment manager with them?</P>
<P>What if Fisher goes all Hollywood on us<BR>and starts wearing a cape ?</P>
<P>w<BR>v</P>

<P>Who wears a cape?</P>
<P><IFRAME height=465 src=”https://www.youtube.com/embed/KDbN9TZqFcg?feature=oembed&#8221; frameBorder=0 width=620 allowfullscreen></IFRAME></P>

BTW, the man in the cape is Larry David…….