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InvaderRamModeratorThere;s the rub though. Don’t Rivers and Roethlisberger fit that definition? But I think it’s stretching the meaning of “elite” to call them elite.
well i would consider those two qbs to be elite.
what you’re talking about i’m not even sure brees and brady qualify as. i only see rodgers qualify as that kind of qb. a qb who can win games by himself.
and i think mahomes might be the next guy to be able to do that. but i need to see more from him.
those guys are rare. and it’s even harder to demonstrate. so it’ll always be open to debate. but i just don’t see a huge difference between a brady/brees and a rivers/roethlisberger.
InvaderRamModeratoryeah. he had the shoulder injury.
he’s got good hands. he really attacks that ball in the air.
and his ability after the catch is very good.
he’s got very good size.
i really do think he’s a dark horse candidate next year. no one else on the team with his blend of size, strength, and athleticism. just need to find out if he can mentally handle it.
InvaderRamModeratorTo be elite it has to be something more than that. And it’s not easy to describe. I would say that to be considered elite, a qb has to demonstrate a few times a season that the team can win on the basis of his arm above all else. That’s getting into the territory of guys like Brees and Brady in his prime.
i think that’s hard to measure.
i am more in line with mcvay’s definition.
consistency in production over a long period of time.
and i’m talking about elite level production.
so i would say a guy like rivers belongs in that conversation.
consistent top 5 production over a number of years.
now i don’t think goff will ever be on the level of an aaron rodgers. a guy who can excel no matter who is around him.
but i think he can be a brees level of qb. he’s not even close to that yet, but i think the potential is there.
InvaderRamModeratorSean McVay “would think” Todd Gurley will be ready for the playoffs, however, there was a “but.” He doesn’t sound 100 percent sure TG will be good to go for the postseason
hmmmm…
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December 29, 2018 at 7:05 pm in reply to: John Johnson III continues under the radar — but probably not for long #95796
InvaderRamModeratorI like Johnson, but to me he’s just a solid to good safety.
i agree. i was hoping he’d be a little better this year.
but i could say that about the entire secondary.
or even the entire defense outside of one mr. aaron donald.
InvaderRamModeratori’d really like to see him get it.
i’m not sure the rams can win the superbowl this year.
this would be the next best thing.
InvaderRamModeratorhmm…
it’s his left knee…
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the same knee he had surgery on for a torn acl…
might need clean up surgery in the off-season?
he needs another week off. at least.
InvaderRamModeratori think mcvay’s got it spot on. consistency.
he’s gotta do it year in year out. for the next ten years at least.
a superbowl would help for sure. but consistently producing is the only sure way.
InvaderRamModeratorwell thank goodness.
InvaderRamModeratorunfortunately, i would say he should be. no place for stuff like that.
InvaderRamModeratorwell. that’s just dirty.
InvaderRamModeratorI think the Rams need to do what it takes to win next week so they get the first round bye. I don’t want to see Goff come out until/unless the game is well in hand.
yeah. and he needs the reps.
playing in chicago again would not be a good time.
also. watching the game everett looked pretty decent. he’s come on the second half of the season.
my only worry is his ypc is very unimpressive. averaging less than 10 ypc. if he’s to become a bigger part of this offense that number has to go up.
InvaderRamModeratorlove the two fat ladies.
InvaderRamModeratoryes merry christmas everyone.
InvaderRamModerator….
if it’s the fourth quarter, i definitely don’t want to be seeing any johnny.
InvaderRamModeratorI think Donald needs 3 sacks next week to get serious run for league MVP, however.
at least. but i think it’s too late. if the saints lost last week and then this coming week. then maybe donald has a chance to win. if he gets 4 sacks next sunday.
but then mahomes would also have to lose again next week or he’d probably get it over brees.
all under the scenario where the saints lost last sunday which they didn’t. i think brees is a virtual lock for the award.
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InvaderRamModeratorFull agreement.
they also need to give some advantages back to the defense too without putting players at risk to serious injury.
yeah i like watching good qbs succeed. but i also want to see good defenders excel as well.
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InvaderRamModeratorBut just a caution. ARZ ranks 31st in run defense.
yeah. and he’s got fresh legs.
but. he also ran for over 8 yards per carry. after only one week with the team.
we’ll see.
InvaderRamModeratorwell that’s actually good then cuz i think goff needs reps to sharpen up for the playoffs.
InvaderRamModeratoronly saw the end. but man the stat line on anderson looks good.
i’m convinced the running game can be better than before.
InvaderRamModeratorBtw, I suspect there might be a connection between Ben and Glory.
you mean ben is glory and glory is ben?
December 21, 2018 at 6:03 pm in reply to: tweets n other bits … 12/19 & 12/20 (including Gurley updates) #95512
InvaderRamModeratorThey may have used a quick, short passing game against the Eagles. I’m not disputing that. I just don’t think it was as effective as you do.
yeah.
i don’t think it was as effective as it could have been.
but that’s why they gotta use these next two games and just take live reps.
that’s the only way you get better at it.
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December 21, 2018 at 9:11 am in reply to: tweets n other bits … 12/19 & 12/20 (including Gurley updates) #95477
InvaderRamModeratorI wonder if that’s because the Rams are so “play action pass” dependent.
goff’s gotta be weaned off the play action at some point.
and now would be a good time to do it with the cardinals coming up.
December 21, 2018 at 9:07 am in reply to: informal poll: Rams recover v. ARZ? plus NFL TV Maps Week XVI #95475
InvaderRamModeratorthey should rest gurley. i don’t want the same thing happening to gurley what happened to kupp.
be smart.
InvaderRamModeratorsome of it is scheme i’m sure.
a lot of it is growing pains. i don’t have the time now, but if you look at qbs in the past, you’ll see some similar growing pains. and not just in terms of raw numbers but relative to other qbs during that time.
does this mean he will learn from this? not necessarily, but it also means i’m not yet in panic mode.
InvaderRamModeratorNot sure how much Anderson has left though.
he’s relatively young. has logged less than 400 career carries. he had meniscus surgery. that’s the only thing i could find.
might actually be an upgrade to brown.
InvaderRamModeratori like it. need him more than cooper.
need to bring the running game back.
InvaderRamModeratoryeah. no point in keeping him. i really thought he had a chance to be good in this league.
InvaderRamModeratorThey also need CBs. imo
are talib and peters back for one more year?
i feel like a fierce pass rush will alleviate at least some of the problems.
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InvaderRamModeratorthey need to draft front seven. shore up the run defense and get a pass rush.
if they can get a free safety too.
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