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January 14, 2023 at 12:30 pm in reply to: starting a new thread w/ BT’s post on a Rodrigue podcast #142583
InvaderRamModeratorBut then Stafford was a better fit for McV. Stafford walked into the room demanding respect with his veteran smarts and longevity, so it was more of a case of coach and veteran qb collaborating than an impatient coach handling a young qb.
partially true. i’m not saying i disagree with that. but i think other things also played a part.
mcvay i think had committed to a 3 wr approach at that point with gurley declining. i don’t think it’s a coincidence that goff’s resurgence has coincided with a resurgence in the lions’ running game.
i do think that mcvay could eventually be that patient head coach. well. at least a more patient version compared to his 30 year old self. i think his perspective changes dramatically when he is say 50 years old compared to a couple years ago. or at least it’ll have to or i don’t think he lasts.
it’s kind of useless to argue because mcvay back then was obviously incapable of having the kind of relationship with goff where goff could keep growing as a qb. it could have just been personality. it could have been the age difference or mcvay’s immaturity. or maybe mcvay just needing to realize that deficiency in himself and having a qb coach. maybe mcvay needs his right hand man. like tony larussa had his dave duncan. but that’s also part of growing as a leader. cuz you hope mcvay wouldn’t make the same mistake at 50 years old that he did when he was 34.
January 14, 2023 at 9:23 am in reply to: starting a new thread w/ BT’s post on a Rodrigue podcast #142577
InvaderRamModeratorOf course, Akers himself gets a ton of credit too. So, perhaps it’s mostly Brown, followed by Akers, with a big assist by McVay for recognizing his mistake. A bit too late in the season to matter, but it bodes well for 2023.
yes. for sure akers deserves most of the credit. but when goff was traded i seem to remember mcvay saying something to the effect of not talking through or recognizing the problem early on? or maybe some lack of communication? i can’t remember. but i’m hoping there was some shift with the akers situation. or maybe it was brown. either way akers wasn’t traded and he had a resurgence.
i feel the one big mistake mcvay may have made was trading goff. that’s weird to say given what stafford has done and the superbowl. but i do think they could have accomplished a lot of things together. who knows what would have happened?
and if akers has been traded who knows what would have happened? but he did stay and he looked like a different man after that. of course. again. akers deserves most of the credit. but if mcvay and goff had somehow hashed things out preventing a trade to the lions. how would goff have responded the following season? we’ll never know.
January 14, 2023 at 6:56 am in reply to: starting a new thread w/ BT’s post on a Rodrigue podcast #142573
InvaderRamModeratori wonder what happened with akers. she does allude to it a little bit according to that summary you provided. but i wonder what specifically mcvay’s role in it it was. and if mcvay was able to glean anything from his past relationship with goff when dealing with the akers situation.
i’m glad that mcvay is at least recognizing or at least seeming to recognize his deficiencies. it at least gives me hope that he’ll better manage himself going forward. help him manage his relationships. maybe even enough to last beyond 2023? he’s potentially the best thing to happen to this franchise since i’ve been following him. but only if he can bring the rams back a second time. i think it’s possible.
InvaderRamModeratori’m sure he’s reached out already, but he has to talk to former head coaches and figure out how to find a balance so he doesn’t keep draining himself like this.
a hard ask for sure. maybe he has to delegate better. i don’t know. or maybe he eventually will have to take that sabbatical.
InvaderRamModeratordude needs to have a talk with dick vermeil. and they need to hire an experienced oc to take some more off mcvay’s plate.
InvaderRamModeratori was thinking they should have more bye weeks. gives them a chance to rest during a grueling season. but i agree. shorten the season. go back to grass fields. no preseason. probably not gonna happen. but those would all be good ideas.
InvaderRamModeratorI thought wms was pushed into the punter
that’s what i saw too.
some missed chances there at the end. lake shoulda held onto that ball. there are probably other plays which i can’t recall at this moment.
i also don’t understand the call on ramsey. he just stood his ground and smith barreled into him. that was bogus.
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InvaderRamModeratorWell, all of a sudden Sean Payton and Vic Fangio to LA is suddenly on the map and probably feels most likely if Sean McVay does step away.
well. wouldn’t be the worst thing if payton and fangio came in…
especially if they need to replace stafford at some point. isn’t payton supposed to be good at developing qbs?
in any case. i really doubt mcvay leaves this year. maybe in another three or four years.
InvaderRamModeratorhey. one of the few bright spots this season. cam akers resurgence, wags, and jones being other ones. just hope this carries over into next season and also that mcvay doesn’t retire.
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InvaderRamModeratorwell this has to be the toughest season for him as a head coach. hopefully he just needs some time away.
InvaderRamModeratorwishing you all the best.
InvaderRamModeratori’m sorry to hear that. hopefully it’s nothing serious.
InvaderRamModeratorhe’s a stopgap. i don’t understand why anyone would think he’s a long term solution.
InvaderRamModeratorif odell’s knee is healthy, i’d totally want him back on the rams.
InvaderRamModeratorwow. nice win. from a team that is almost unrecognizable from the one that started the season. at least on offense.
InvaderRamModeratorthis is probably the official low point of the season.
InvaderRamModeratorJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue On emergence of DL Michael Hoecht as an OLB, Sean McVay says they realized he could be a good edge “probably two weeks ago”. “Otherwise we would’ve done this shit a lot sooner.” Hoecht had 2 sacks, 3 hits, a TFL and forced a fumble. He had 5 pressures on 31 rushes, T7 in W13.
it took them three years to realize that?
hmmm….
InvaderRamModeratorhad to be done. not glad that he’s hurt. but glad the rams made the decision to shut him down.
InvaderRamModeratoryeah. it would be unfair to expect anything more. i mean this has to be their second string offense out there at this point right?
anyway. i expect guys to come back healthy next year. but that still doesn’t fix the oline problems.
November 26, 2022 at 10:46 am in reply to: Chiefs (national)…4:25 et/1:25 pt…chat link, tv map, inactives #141834
InvaderRamModeratornice.
November 24, 2022 at 2:20 pm in reply to: Chiefs (national)…4:25 et/1:25 pt…chat link, tv map, inactives #141809
InvaderRamModeratoris daniel hardy back? with hollins gone maybe we can see him too.
November 24, 2022 at 2:19 pm in reply to: Chiefs (national)…4:25 et/1:25 pt…chat link, tv map, inactives #141808
InvaderRamModeratorwouldn’t mind seeing williams get more touches. and for mccutcheon to get more snaps if robinson ends up not playing.
InvaderRamModeratori’m glad the conversation here is civil.
i looked over at the herd. and while it’s not getting completely out of hand, posters are just getting testy… like some are getting on ramsey and his fashion choices. it just seems bizarre to me. i don’t know. i feel fortunate to have a player of his caliber on this team. i could care less if the color of his socks don’t match the rest of the team’s.
InvaderRamModeratori agree with people who say it’s hard to lay blame on anyone. injuries and losing whit and miller. that’s a hard one.
i also had hopes. but i’m also not all that surprised with how the season has gone.
after 99 and with how the offense was setting records the following season it really hurt when kurt went down with the thumb. this season. ehhh. maybe it just doesn’t mean as much being 20 years older.
InvaderRamModeratorugh.
quite possibly the lowest the rams have ever been in the mcvay era.
InvaderRamModeratorAndrew Whitworth@AndrewWhitworth I have a really cool idea for turf vs grass study! Ask the people who actually perform and put their bodies at risk on it! We know how we feel on it. Injury or not! Beating it puts on body, how hard it is when helmet hits, footing, etc
it’d be interesting to see the long-term effects of playing on synthetic grass. not just the acute injuries.
InvaderRamModeratorI dunno about you guys, but I’m starting to doubt they can run it back.
yeah. and regardless they should keep stafford out for his own sake.
InvaderRamModeratorwhen the rams couldn’t convert that third down with a minute and some change to go. i just had no confidence the rams could hold onto the lead. no pass rush. and no ability to protect the passer. it’s just not their season.
InvaderRamModeratori wish they’d just go grass. from what i’ve read it seems like it’s very doable.
InvaderRamModeratorwhat exactly happened? the buzz around him seemed to be so positive before the season started.
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