and that niners defensive back who inexplicably spears obj while he’s on the ground.

i mean i’ll take it.  but the rams got some breaks.  the niners were beating the rams up that game.

InvaderRam wrote:

and they had to come from behind to beat the niners in the nfc championship game.

and also they got a little lucky when that niners player dropped an interception that fell right into his lap almost.

i don’t think the defense will necessarily be worse. but i just remember seeing that pass rush go off in the playoffs. and how effective it was.

but it was also vulnerable to certain types of teams. and i don’t think that will be a problem next year with wags back there.

and i still think the rams could find another pass rusher. i think hollins could be that guy. garrett. a draft pick. if they can find that guy the defense should be real good.

i’m in the miller group too.  him leaving just sucked.  it really sucked.  bad.  i’d rather have the unstoppable pass rush.

but i don’t know about clowney.  i’d rather go wags and then see if garrett or hollins develop.  it’s a deep class for edge.  it’s almost a consensus that edge is the deepest position this draft.  so draft another guy and see who emerges.

but yeah.  if i had my choice, ida preferred the rams bring miller back.

Zooey wrote:

I think their biggest need now is CB and secondary depth.

someone at the herd said that this draft was deep at defensive back and edge rusher.

fits in perfectly with what the rams need.

geez.

there’s stafford on one end.  and then there’s goff…  all the way on the other end…

Zooey wrote:

The juxtaposition of Stafford and Goff does catch the eye, doesn’t it?

ok. i’ve seen wags described as the greatest linebacker since ray lewis.

so i decided to see how ray lewis performed in his age 32 to age 36 seasons which are the years wags will be playing out with the rams. assuming he plays the entirety of the contract. obviously anything can happen and wags could decline sooner than we hope.

but it is possible for him to be very productive. and i gotta believe that this guy takes care of himself. also lewis’ age 32-36 seasons were actually his 12th through 16th seasons in the nfl. wags’ will be in his 11th through 15th seasons.

in that five year span, lewis made the pro bowl all five seasons. he was first team all pro twice and second team all pro once.

not bad. if wags takes care of his body and still has the hunger to go along with the vast amount of experience he’s accumulated over those ten years. and with a little bit of luck i think three more years is doable.

he’ll be playing alongside donald who is probably still near his prime years or not too far off. lewis during those years was playing behind a young haloti ngata who was regularly making first and second team all pro during those years. suggs was a very young 25 and just coming into his own (he won dpoy at the very end of that stretch – 2011). and of course ed reed who was right in the middle of his prime years.

ramsey is right in the middle of his prime years. he’s made first team all pro the last two seasons and i see no reason why he wouldn’t continue to be his dominant self for at least a couple more years.

it’d still be helpful obviously if the rams had more edge talent. i like floyd, but i don’t consider him the caliber of a terrell suggs. maybe they make a trade for hunter. hahaha.

seriously though. if they can find an edge rusher either from within or through the draft or maybe even sign someone like clowney, wags and this defense could be something else.

an aside note ed reed, ray lewis, and terrell suggs have four defensive player of the year awards between them. crazy. of course donald has three himself. ha!

zn wrote:

The way Eisen talked about the Rams, I don’t remember them ever being talked about that way in previous decades. Not even the GSOT. The league was awestruck with the GSOT, but this is different. It’s like “the Rams are in the news so we will of course now enthusiastically talk about the really smart things they did this week. You know like they did last week.” With Eisen, it’s not just Wagner and Donald that get mentioned but Snead too. It’s like “and the Rams did another smart and good thing. Of course.”

part of me wonders if this is all a push for the rams to succeed in the los angeles market.  i mean the nfl really wants the rams to succeed in la.

actually.  one guy i completely forgot about.  justin hollins.

he’s only 26.  with wags here they don’t need him at inside backer.  he can fully commit to playing edge.  he’ll be playing for a contract.  and he’s seen what edge rushers get playing on the same defense as ad.

not only that.  he now has the luxury of playing next to another hall of famer in wags.

could he be the sleeper that emerges in 2022?

Zooey wrote:

If he never had problems with his knee, he could’ve been a top 3 RB in NFL History

he needed four more seasons.  but yeah.  his numbers were ridiculous for 2 seasons until his age 25 season.  i don’t know about top 3.  but hall of fame?  yes.

wow.  bob.  wow.

well.  one edge rusher short of an elite front seven.

when i think of bobby wagner i think of eric weddle.  only he’ll come in younger and fitter.

they couldn’t sign the honey badger could they?  seriously though.  i think defensive back and edge come through the draft.  then again.  these are the mcsnead rams.  anything can happen.

wv wrote:

Not a tweet, but a vid.  Sillyness but its bout the rams;

i agree that obj was on his way to winning super bowl mvp.

but i wanna pose this question…

how would obj have done if kupp was injured in that game?  with van not playing particularly well.  and hopkins having to fill in at tight end.  we know how kupp would do with his teammates dropping all around him.

joemad wrote:

to me this wasn’t / isn’t a race issue

you wish it wouldn’t be.  but it is.  and for you it isn’t.  but for a lot of people it is.

i think it was chris rock himself who once said that black celebrities are under a microscope.  if a white celebrity screws up, white people don’t necessarily care.  he’s just a screw up.  if a black celebrity screws up, the community feels it more.  shannon sharpe himself said it.  black people are judged by the worst of them.  it’s unfair.  but that’s the reality.

Zooey wrote:

I hasten to add that I have no knowledge of Clowney or Wagner outside of their reputations. I’ve seen Wagner play a few times, and Clowney once or twice, maybe, but I don’t know anything about them, not really. But I saw what another quality Edge rusher did for the Rams, so that’s what I’m hoping for.

yeah. the only reason i want bobby wagner is cuz he’s bobby wagner. just the name. i don’t know that much about his actual game.

not exactly sure how he’d fit in… i do suspect without any concrete evidence that he’d have a similar effect to weddle. or on the offensive side woods. but the added effect of being just a better caliber player. but i think he adds those leadership qualities and intelligence that we would read about weddle. the main difference being that wagner is younger and not coming out of retirement and trying to shake the rust off in the middle of a playoff run.

but yeah. von miller leaving just created a domino effect. it’s gonna be hard to replace him. that pass rush looked totally different with him in it.

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