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  • March 30, 2022 at 11:42 am #138005
    wv
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    March 30, 2022 at 12:08 pm #138006
    joemad
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    i’ve seen Shannon and Skip cover this topic twice this week, both times they touched on race…. to me this wasn’t / isn’t a race issue, it’s an asshole issue by Hollywood and Will Smith….

    You have an actress (Jada), who has had steady acting gigs since childhood and grew up to be a beautiful woman.

    Jada was compared by a comedian, who was hired to poke fun at Hollywood elite, to Demi Moore (as Kareem pointed out) another bomb shell.

    It’s not fair to judge a person on a low point of their career, but to give this guy a stand-O when he received his award was sickening….it was disturbing.

    Chris Rock handled this almost perfectly…. that’s what should be emphasized….

    Howard Stern had a similar take to Kareems, I think Kareem leveraged on what Stern stated about the issues, only, he didn’t make it about race…

    BTW…. do folks forget the Dean Martin roasts and more specifically Don Rickles?

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    March 30, 2022 at 7:34 pm #138008
    InvaderRam
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    joemad wrote:

    to me this wasn’t / isn’t a race issue

     

    you wish it wouldn’t be.  but it is.  and for you it isn’t.  but for a lot of people it is.

     

    i think it was chris rock himself who once said that black celebrities are under a microscope.  if a white celebrity screws up, white people don’t necessarily care.  he’s just a screw up.  if a black celebrity screws up, the community feels it more.  shannon sharpe himself said it.  black people are judged by the worst of them.  it’s unfair.  but that’s the reality.

    March 30, 2022 at 10:54 pm #138009
    wv
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    I think, its been a nice educational opportunity.

    Its allowed for a big, cranky, cacophonous conversation about violence, race, patriarchy, toxic masculinity, alopecia, etc.

     

    For example, i saw a vid by the ‘Brother from Another’ guys, and one of them

    tepidly supported Will Smith, but he also said he needed to learn more about the concept of toxic masculinity.  He was unfamiliar with it.  But he learned about it from a black professor who he had on the show to discuss the slap.

     

    What interests me WAY more than Will Smith’s slap, is the large amount of people defending it.   I call them the F-around-and-Find-out-crowd.  That seems to be their mantra.

    Reason no. 4604 why i have zero optimism for the future of the biosphere.

     

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    March 31, 2022 at 12:11 am #138010
    InvaderRam
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    well.  toxic masculinity…

     

    there’s also a topic that isn’t being discussed.  which i also find fascinating.  and which i had no idea about because.  well.  because i’m an old fart, and i am not up to date on all the hollywood gossip.  but this whole thing took me to an unholy part of myself of which i am not proud.  but i went down that rabbit hole.

     

    this whole “entanglement” issue which apparently has been going on for a year.  i found out some disturbing information regarding jada and his son’s friend.  i find it even more disturbing that it’s apparently been one whole big joke this whole time.  and really there’s nothing funny about it.  and for me at least.  it puts will smith’s actions in a slightly different lens.

     

    March 31, 2022 at 12:53 pm #138020
    joemad
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    InvaderRam wrote:
    joemad wrote:

    to me this wasn’t / isn’t a race issue

    you wish it wouldn’t be. but it is. and for you it isn’t. but for a lot of people it is. i think it was chris rock himself who once said that black celebrities are under a microscope. if a white celebrity screws up, white people don’t necessarily care. he’s just a screw up. if a black celebrity screws up, the community feels it more. shannon sharpe himself said it. black people are judged by the worst of them. it’s unfair. but that’s the reality.

    i understand that the Monday Morning reaction to the event itself might be a race issue.

    i implied that the event itself wasn’t a race issue….. and the reaction that evening when he accepted the award wasn’t either.    both the reaction to his acceptance to the award and the event itself was sickening.

    I don’t think that Chris Rock is getting enough credit for HIS reaction. I don’t know many people that could’ve have handled the way he did.

     

     

     

     

     

    March 31, 2022 at 3:19 pm #138028
    zn
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    So I heard that Will Rock kissed Chris Smith at the Oscar Mayers party, or something. That was on the news I think.

    Not sure if it means all that much to me.

    March 31, 2022 at 6:48 pm #138045
    InvaderRam
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    if ricky gervais was hosting the oscars.

     

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    April 9, 2022 at 10:38 am #138279
    joemad
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