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  • March 21, 2022 at 10:37 am #137802
    zn
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    March 21, 2022 at 10:50 am #137806
    Billy_T
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    I haven’t seen anything in the media yet on another aspect to Woods’ game, but I think it’s important:

    Kupp learned a hell of a lot from him. I don’t think Kupp is the player he is now if Woods isn’t a teammate. Several key elements, IMO, but I’d say his blocking and his sneaky run-after-the-catch are most obviously influenced by Woods. Deceptive speed, quickness, and the ability to utilize that, weave his way through traffic, etc. Incredibly efficient in his movements, picking and choosing, finding the flow, the right gear, and so on. Woods is a master at all of that.

    Kupp and the Rams are really going to miss him.

    March 21, 2022 at 4:19 pm #137816
    zn
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    March 21, 2022 at 5:00 pm #137826
    Herzog
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    logic be damned…I’m so sad by this.

    March 21, 2022 at 5:50 pm #137828
    Billy_T
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    Looking at the compensation for the Wentz and Ryan trades — two 3rds, and one 3rd, respectively — it makes the 6th rounder for Woods all the more absurd. Wentz is basically a bust. Ryan is the better player, but he’s 37. Woods deserves at least similar returns. Worst case scenario: a 4th this year. At worst.  If we’re comparing his overall game, and his intangibles, to Davante Adams . . . I’m thinking the Rams should have gotten at least a 2nd.

    Woods is actually a 1st round receiver, and proven many times over. But, yeah, the age and injury thing kick in too. So I get that.

     

     

    March 21, 2022 at 11:21 pm #137833
    Zooey
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    Billy_T wrote:

    Looking at the compensation for the Wentz and Ryan trades — two 3rds, and one 3rd, respectively — it makes the 6th rounder for Woods all the more absurd. Wentz is basically a bust. Ryan is the better player, but he’s 37. Woods deserves at least similar returns. Worst case scenario: a 4th this year. At worst. If we’re comparing his overall game, and his intangibles, to Davante Adams . . . I’m thinking the Rams should have gotten at least a 2nd. Woods is actually a 1st round receiver, and proven many times over. But, yeah, the age and injury thing kick in too. So I get that.

    I was thinking a along those lines. I mean…a 6th round pick has, like, 50/50 chance of being with the team for  Year 3. Probably less than that. And that would be spot duty and special teams, maybe. Woods will still be starting and contributing 3 years from now, without a doubt. And he’s a known quantity. He’s GOOD.

    But…there are a lot of good WRs. Only a few teams have nobody. Most teams have serviceable WRs, or even really, really good WRs.

    QBs just aren’t a good comparison. Wentz may be a “bust,” but he’s a still better than other starting QBs in this league. That’s the reality.

    March 22, 2022 at 6:01 pm #137842
    wv
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    Just heard about the trade today.   Makes perfect sense to me.

    1.) I think Robinson is probably a tad better player for what the Rams/Stafford now want to do.   And he’s not coming off an ACL and he’s a year younger.

    2.) The cap is the cap.

    3.)  The 6th rounder just tells me, they loved Woods.  I doubt there’s anybody else they would do that for except the team captain and beloved-ram: Robert Woods.   I also think they wanted him in the AFC.  Definitely not on Green Bay.

    4.) We all love Woods.  I certainly do. He became an ALL-TIME fave in a short time.  But give me a straight up choice between Robinson and Woods — I think I go with Robinson.   Its close, though.   And who knows how it will turn out.

     

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    March 24, 2022 at 10:42 am #137876
    Zooey
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    March 26, 2022 at 9:02 am #137918
    zn
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    March 26, 2022 at 9:33 am #137919
    InvaderRam
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    i’m even more annoyed now. but i suppose it works in terms of next year? when salaries go up?

    March 26, 2022 at 11:09 am #137921
    wv
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    InvaderRam wrote:

    i’m even more annoyed now. but i suppose it works in terms of next year? when salaries go up?

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    I think its also gotta mean, they simply think Robinson

    is a better or more dangerous WR.   Maybe in the red-zone.

     

    We’ll see.

     

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    March 26, 2022 at 11:32 am #137922
    zn
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    InvaderRam wrote:

    but i suppose it works in terms of next year? when salaries go up?

    Looking at the Woods v. Robinson contracts.

    Woods future cap hits (had he stayed):

    2023: 13.75 M

    2024: 15.75 M

    2025: 17.5 M

    Robinson future cap hits:

    2023: 18.05 M

    2024: 18.55 M

    2025 & 2026 = voided years

    This really does just look like they think Robinson is better for either what they’re doing or what they will be doing. Height, contested catches?

    March 26, 2022 at 12:03 pm #137924
    Billy_T
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    Reading the Ramswire article makes it just that much more . . . baffling. Poor clock-management. Cost them nearly 4 million net, just because of timing.

    The FO gets a lot of slack because of the Super Bowl, of course. But still. This trade was just flat out botched. And it looks worse to me after the Tyreek Hill trade. I’d rather have Woods on my team than Hill. A thousand times over, even with his crazy speed. Woods’ intangibles versus Hill’s? With his past and recent violence? Come on. So Woods nets a 6th rounder in next year’s draft — which has the value of a 7th this year — and Hill brings in a 1st round plus?

    I do think they got a steal with Robinson, his talent, his contract. But they could have Robinson and Woods . . . or Woods in return for a lot more. Woods was just worth a lot more to the Rams than a 6th and a few million off the cap.

    Depressing

    March 26, 2022 at 12:50 pm #137925
    wv
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    zn wrote:

    This really does just look like they think Robinson is better for either what they’re doing or what they will be doing. Height, contested catches?

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    My wild-speculation is they fell in love with what OBJ could do in the red-zone, and they think Robinson can do some of that same stuff.

    Who knows, though.

     

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    March 26, 2022 at 7:57 pm #137927
    InvaderRam
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    well also. if von miller signs with the rams, arob is never signed and woods is never traded.

     

    it’s everything that i’m annoyed with really. and it’s less money to sign another free agent.

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