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13. The NFL has long held the belief that the LA market is a crowned jewel, a holy grail waiting for the bravest knight to pull the sword from the stone. They have held onto this treasure for 20 years, and it has served the NFL very well, getting new stadiums built in various cites around the league. It strikes me as odd that the NFL will now give this prized treasure to two owners, Spanos and Davis, who have so little means that they both need league support just to get their stadium built, and have flailed in their own markets without any hint of a move to LA until Kroenke made his play. Why reward these two owners for their apparent incompetence, sitting on their hands for years but accomplishing nothing? What did they do to deserve the LA market? Fortune favors the bold.
this. if the league were fair and just, the rams would stay in st. louis. the chargers and raiders would move to los angeles…
we should know better than this.
Well, if the league were fair and just, the Rams wouldnt
have moved away from LA.Then again, if the league were fair and just, maybe
they wouldnt have moved out of Cleveland.Then again….etc, and so forth.
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vyup. i agree.
InvaderRamModeratoryeah. this still fits within the seattle formula for winning football. great defense. great running game. and efficient passing game.
the rams have to improve the pass defense. they have a good pass rush, but i think their secondary needs to get a lot better.
and i’m also hoping that if the rams have that dominant rushing game that they’re going for and foles can stay healthy, the mid range passing game will open up for the rams.
InvaderRamModerator13. The NFL has long held the belief that the LA market is a crowned jewel, a holy grail waiting for the bravest knight to pull the sword from the stone. They have held onto this treasure for 20 years, and it has served the NFL very well, getting new stadiums built in various cites around the league. It strikes me as odd that the NFL will now give this prized treasure to two owners, Spanos and Davis, who have so little means that they both need league support just to get their stadium built, and have flailed in their own markets without any hint of a move to LA until Kroenke made his play. Why reward these two owners for their apparent incompetence, sitting on their hands for years but accomplishing nothing? What did they do to deserve the LA market? Fortune favors the bold.
this. if the league were fair and just, the rams would stay in st. louis. the chargers and raiders would move to los angeles…
we should know better than this.
May 21, 2015 at 6:03 pm in reply to: How do you feel about a starting tackle pair of Robinson & Havenstein? #25043InvaderRamModeratori think robinson and havenstein will be fine. havenstein comes from a school known for producing pro ready offensive linemen. he’s a three year starter. he’ll be ready. greg robinson is going in his second year. he’ll be in a run heavy offense. i’m not too worried.
it’s the middle that i’m worried about.
InvaderRamModeratorthere is very much an amusement park type feel to the inglewood stadium.
obviously it’s not set in stone but it feels like the momentum is heading this way especially with the situation the raiders are in.
InvaderRamModeratorreally. the nfl can’t do better than this inglewood proposal. you’re right. it’d be the crown jewel of the nfl.
the carson stadium would be jas. just another stadium.
InvaderRamModeratoryeah. it’s all pretty obscene. but that’s what the nfl wants.
inglewood is also undergoing mass gentrification. you got santa monica, venice, marina del rey, and manhattan beach to the west. beverly hills and west los angeles are less than 30 minutes to the north. it would be an absolute spectacle during super bowls and possible pro bowls. and like you said with all the hotels, shopping, and other venues. there’d definitely be that hollywood party atmosphere. plus nfl network would be based there. a kind of second home base. i also see the nfl draft being held there. it’d be a prime spot for celebrities to be seen being so close to the airport and beaches.
carson? it’s kind of a dump. redondo beach and long beach aren’t so happening. inglewood is a dump too. but like i said. real estate developers in california see a lot of potential there.
InvaderRamModeratori got this from the original herd. i don’t know if i should post that link or the original link. i’ll be posting the original link.
apparently if the superbowl is held in los angeles, it can only be held in the inglewood stadium…
Los Angeles emerges as Super Bowl contender in 2020
Los Angeles has emerged as a contender to once again host the Super Bowl.
The NFL announced Wednesday that L.A. is eligible as a potential Super Bowl LIV host site in 2020 if there is a stadium and a team has moved there by the start of the 2018 season. NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport reports that based on league rules and stadium plans, if Los Angeles hosted Super Bowl LIV, it could only be the held in the Inglewood stadium.
It’s just the latest indicator of how serious the NFL is about bringing the sport back to Los Angeles, which has been without a team since the Rams and Raiders both left town after the 1994 season. NFL Media’s Albert Breer reported Monday that momentum continues to build toward the league returning to the L.A. market in 2016, according to multiple involved parties. The Rams, Raiders and Chargers are linked to new stadium projects in the city.
Los Angeles has hosted seven Super Bowls. Five have been played at the Rose Bowl and two at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum, including Super Bowl I in 1967. The Super Bowl hasn’t been hosted by the L.A. metropolitan area since 1993.
Rapoport reported from the Spring League Meeting on Tuesday that the NFL has selected Miami, Tampa Bay, New Orleans and Atlanta as finalists for the 2019 and 2020 Super Bowls. All four cities’ bids will go before the owners for a vote next May. The next three Super Bowls will be held in Santa Clara, California, Houston and Minneapolis.
InvaderRamModeratori should also add. the raiders would have denver, another storied rivalry, a little further to the west.
and the rams reestablish their geographical rivalry with san francisco. arizona lying 6 hours east with seattle to the north.
InvaderRamModeratoryeah. this is the same group of billionaires who have no problem holding cities hostage and trying to squeeze every dollar they can out of them for a new stadium.
my best guess is the raiders to st. louis. if it’s true that davis will have a hard time keeping the team after carol passes, he will need to sell the team. it solves a lot of problems. it gets rid of the raiders whose name is mostly irrelevant in today’s nfl. it gets rid of the davis name which has been a sore spot for the owners. it establishes a true geographical rivalry between kansas city and st. louis. the rams are back in los angeles which the league was against in the first place. it establishes one of its strongest owners (let me emphasize that by strong i mean rich) in the second biggest media market in the nation.
and if i was kroenke. this would be my biggest selling point. if the chargers somehow stay in san diego. the league can still extort money from cities by threatening a move of a second team to los angeles to play in kroenke’s brand new stadium.
nefarious i tell ya. nefarious.
InvaderRamModeratoron the other hand the rams history in los angeles and even in st louis with the gsot. maybe kroenke feels he needs to hold onto that to maximize his brand capital when trying to establish the team in los angeles especially with the chargers looming.
InvaderRamModeratorwell if davis is ever forced to sell the raiders, maybe he sells it to a st louis group.
or the rams get sold to a st louis group and kroenke buys the raiders although i can’t imagine he’d want the raiders given that they’re not sponsor friendly.
or maybe in either scenario the raiders get rebranded and the raider logo gets retired.
InvaderRamModeratori just want to say again. i think gurley has the ability to be the best back fisher has ever coached.
he’s got the power of eddie george. but combines that with the big play ability of chris johnson. and he has the ability to be a better receiver than both.
steven jackson played for fisher in the twilight of his career. so that works to his disadvantage.
combine that with mason and fisher could have the best running attack he’s ever had at his disposal.
InvaderRamModeratormakes me even more annoyed that they couldn’t sign barksdale to a 1 year deal.
May 19, 2015 at 7:46 pm in reply to: Joe Barksdale agrees to terms on one-year deal with San Diego – INTERESTING. #24919InvaderRamModeratorThe question is Why? What is he up to?
i believe he’s trying to give me diarrhea.
That’s Wagoner’s take on all this.
Wagoner has never been a voice of reason though;
Lets wait for Bernie to weigh in
before we start speculating wildly
about Invaders evacuation crisis.Greg Robinson at LT, The Rookie Frankenstein at RT.
Could be pretty entertaining. Kinda. In a way.w
ventertaining for my bowels…
i blame snisher.
May 19, 2015 at 7:06 pm in reply to: Joe Barksdale agrees to terms on one-year deal with San Diego – INTERESTING. #24912InvaderRamModeratorThe question is Why? What is he up to?
i believe he’s trying to give me diarrhea.
May 19, 2015 at 6:07 pm in reply to: Joe Barksdale agrees to terms on one-year deal with San Diego – INTERESTING. #24906InvaderRamModerator“Base minimum, $350K to sign, $1M more available in incentives.”
WOW, Joe lost some big money somewhere. He needs a different agent.
That cant be right.
There is no way he is valued by NFL teams at
that low a price.That would really surprise me.
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vi agree. if rams couldn’t beat that, i don’t know what to say. unless barksdale was just so pissed off that he refused to re-sign with the rams.
May 19, 2015 at 6:05 pm in reply to: Joe Barksdale agrees to terms on one-year deal with San Diego – INTERESTING. #24904InvaderRamModeratorthis is bad. rams need to sign somebody. ideally only havenstein needs to start this season, and the other rookies can develop. still need somebody to man the lg spot.
InvaderRamModeratorAustin will never be as good as I hoped, I fear, because of a number of factors. He has shown that he cannot bounce off a hit or even break an arm tackle. He’s too easy to bring down once contacted. He isn’t as instinctive a football player as I hoped. It takes him time to understand the offense and his role, and it’s taken him too long to adjust to the speed of the NFL. The injuries have hurt his progress, too. I don’t know if he’s “injury prone” but I underestimated how much his small stature may lead to injuries. That has nothing to do with his height, but his build and strength. Where his size does hurt is that he’s so small on the outside that most QBs are going to have a hard time seeing him and dropping the ball to him between the safety and the corner. They’re not going to try to throw high to him along the sideline.
Yet, despite all of that, he’s made some amazing plays. Just not consistently enough. I also think he’s done a good job running the ball out of the backfield, much better than I ever anticipated. He’s just more of a situational type of guy. On a wide open offense, he’d be hell to cover, but I do agree with RFL to an extent that he doesn’t really fit with this offense … not enough to justify what they gave up for him. You don’t take the type of player that we collectively described here in the Top 10, and you sure don’t trade up for him. I was excited to get him, and surprised when the Rams traded up for him. But, I think the Rams missed the boat on what he could be on this team. I’m sure they thought he could make a major impact immediately. Now, you have to game plan just to try to get him involved. This is definitely going to be a telling year as to whether Austin can take a step forward. If he doesn’t, I could see this team trading him next offseason.
i agree with a lot of that. at this point i’d say he’s a fourth wide receiver on this team at best. i do think, however, he can have a fit on this offense. a change of pace if you will. like i said you could pound a team with gurley and mason and then hit them with a change of pace running a jet sweep with austin. i could see that being effective. again. not on a regular basis but every once in awhile to keep the defense honest. and then finding him deep every now and then for a quick strike.
i think he’d be a nice contrast to the featured players on offense.
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InvaderRamModeratorwell i take comfort in the fact that laram calls gurley a luxury pick. which i take to mean he’s not necessarily a bad player but a bad pick…
haha!
i do think gurley will have a significant role in the passing game as well. he’ll make a good safety valve for foles. but i also think he’ll be able to provide some big plays there.
also hopefully quick comes back healthy. and bailey gets some chemistry going with his qb.
i also agree about the oline. they need to re-sign barksdale.
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May 19, 2015 at 1:17 am in reply to: Seven teams that improved most on offense in 2015 NFL Draft #24844InvaderRamModeratornot just a power running attack. but a running back capable of busting long plays running or receiving the ball at any given time. gurley’s got power and speed. a healthy gurley that is…
InvaderRamModerator<span class=”d4pbbc-font-color” style=”color: blue”>The next guy on my list was Cameron Erving, but I am fine with Fisher taking Gurley. He would have been one of my 3 blue chip players, except for the ACL. If the Rams are satisfied that the ACL is worth the gamble, I am fine with that. The reward versus risk seems acceptable. imo</span>
yeah erving was my guy too. we think alike!
InvaderRamModeratorThen we must agree to disagree. Rams had the 10th pick overall. You think other teams found O-line help after the Gurley pick? I do.
that’s how teams stay mediocre. picking for need over quality. there was nobody on that offense that would keep a dcoordinator up at night. no one a defense had to game plan for.
at least now they have a chance with gurley to have that type of player. so i think it’s worth the risk.
InvaderRamModeratorrams need to re-sign this guy. keep some continuity on this line. i deffo think he’s underrated.
InvaderRamModeratorAgain it doesn’t have to be an ACL. As serious an injury as an ACL. Any of those four enter the league as injured as Gurley? The Rams have such great need other places and RB wasn’t one. An injured one at that. Great expectations for TA which haven’t materialized is this deja vu? Is this what our draft board does for the offense? Will this extend the Rams streak of 11 years since a first round pick on offense has been worth it? This pick makes my stomach churn.
Whom would you have taken? Waynes? Peat? Parker?
I do not follow the draft unless our first pick is very early as to be reasonably predicted like Bradford first overall or Long at 2nd overall. RB was not an area of need. O-line immediately comes to mind.
i wouldn’t have minded cameron erving. but gurley is way better than erving i would think. i think they needed playmakers. and no wide receivers were available.
cornerback woulda been another alternative. i’m not loving the secondary so much.
InvaderRamModeratorjamal lewis tore his right lateral collateral ligament in college. i don’t believe it required surgery. other ligaments are able to heal on their own. he then tore his acl his second year in the pros. but yes. lewis tore a ligament before getting drafted. not the dreaded acl tear. but it was a ligament tear.
let’s also be clear. despite advances in surgery, athletes with an acl tear are at significant risk for re-tear in the first year compared to athletes who haven’t torn their acl. that much is clear.
there are also significant long-term consequences of tearing your acl. fortunately for fans, these usually don’t surface until well after their playing career. although unfortunate for them.
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InvaderRamModeratoralso. i think that the los angeles opportunities group will present to the owners, and maybe not this next meeting but at some point they will recommend the rams and the chargers.
i would think they would want at least one of the owners to be able to take on a stadium project by himself. neither davis nor spanos could do that on his own which is why they went into it together. that will be one thing going against them.
InvaderRamModeratorThe Rams have struggled to find Tavon Austin’s fit and it’s hard to see how they’re going to do it better now that they’ve fully committed to a personality opposite of what he brings to the table. On the flip side, though, is the prospect of using him in ways that really complement that offensive philosophy. In other words, more jet sweeps, more ways of getting the ball in his hands as a change of pace to the more power-oriented style. At this point, I’m not sure he’s ever going to develop into a consistent receiver. But I guess we’ll see.
We wuzz just discussing all this.
i’m not a playcaller, but i could see the rams punching it up the gut and then all of a sudden sending austin out on a jet sweep with the defense so focused on stopping gurley and mason.
InvaderRamModeratorbailey is going to be good this year…
britt should be fine.
quick and austin are the unknowns i think at this point.
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