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  • January 15, 2016 at 2:10 am in reply to: the coaches searches #37341
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    yeah. i don’t think it matters who the coordinator is if they can’t get that qb situation figured out. rgiii anyone???

    January 14, 2016 at 7:40 pm in reply to: The last time the NFL left St. Louis compared to now #37329
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    the cardinals are good at baseball. and they’re good at making profits. in fact, they’re better at it than any other team in major league baseball. winning and making money are what the cardinals do. i don’t know that they do right by their community.

    one thing i was touched by was what john angelos of the orioles organization did this season when the riots broke out. i thought that was something real.

    http://www.baltimoresun.com/business/bs-bz-john-angelos-riots-20150508-story.html

    January 14, 2016 at 7:14 pm in reply to: board response to the NFL vote…Rams to LA #37327
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    wv wrote:
    InvaderRam wrote:

    “…and i realize that this is all against a backdrop of a profit driven league. billionaire owners trying to squeeze more out of their fans. pure greed. but i don’t care. that’s what this world is….”

    Well, maybe, possibly, perhaps,
    it doesn’t ‘have‘ to be that way.
    Ya know. :)

    w
    v
    “….Before I went to college… I read… “Moral Mazes” by Robert Jackall which is a study of how corporations work…, this sociologist picks a corporation at random and studies the middle managers, not the people who do any of the grunt work and not the big decision makers, the people whose job is to make sure that things day to day get done, and he shows how even though they’re all perfectly reasonable people, perfectly nice people, all the things that they were accomplishing were incredibly evil. So you have these people in this average corporation, they were making decisions to blow out their worker’s eardrums in the factory, to poison the lakes and the lagoons nearby, to make these products that are filled with toxic chemicals that poisoned their customers, not because any of them were bad people and wanted to kill their workers and their neighborhood and their customers, but just because that was the logic of the situation they were in….” Aaron Swartz

    you have far more faith in humanity than i do.

    haha!

    January 14, 2016 at 7:13 pm in reply to: board response to the NFL vote…Rams to LA #37326
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    i’ve been thinking about this for the past year. and i’ve been wondering why i feel such an attachment to this team – more than any other team out there. more than the cardinals. i moved to st. louis for college in 1993. the rams moved their shortly thereafter in 1995. my college years in st. louis were some of the best in my entire life. and i felt like the rams were part of that – having moved there around the same time i did. almost like we both experienced st louis together for the first time. and so in that way i will always feel a stronger bond to the rams than the cardinals.

    and now i live in los angeles. it’s actually home to me now. i’ve lived here longer than i’ve lived anywhere else. it feels like home to me. and now the rams have moved back. it’s weird. maybe if they moved to the east coast that bond would have weakened? i don’t know. i don’t think so. but who knows. who knows how my irrational mind would have reacted to that. but it’s weird. it’s almost as if having the rams back in los angeles has made the city more of a home to me now. maybe it’s even strengthened that bond. but i also think that i still would care about the rams wherever they go.

    January 14, 2016 at 6:47 pm in reply to: board response to the NFL vote…Rams to LA #37321
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    i feel sad for all the st. louis fans out there. it’s gotta really suck for them. being treated like this. not just the move. but the feeling that they were being lied to.

    but it also warms my heart to hear stories about all the los angeles fans. to finally get their team back after all these years. like the story above.

    and i realize that this is all against a backdrop of a profit driven league. billionaire owners trying to squeeze more out of their fans. pure greed. but i don’t care. that’s what this world is. it doesn’t matter to me. it’s always going to be there. it’s not just isolated to pro sports. too depressing to me to worry about those things that are out of my control.

    but these stories here. st louis fans. los angeles fans. that’s what i care about. and i love watching football. there’s lots of stories there – both terrible and uplifting. i guess if i ever reach my limit, i’ll stop watching too. i’ll stop caring. but i don’t feel like i’ve hit that point yet.

    January 14, 2016 at 6:32 pm in reply to: The last time the NFL left St. Louis compared to now #37319
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    that’s part of what appeals to the nfl. bringing the rams back to los angeles. there’s a rich tradition the nfl can draw on to establish the rams brand in southern california. the original pro sports franchise. the fearsome foursome. dickerson. youngblood. they’re going to exploit all that to give them the best chance to be profitable there. yeah they want to estabish a bond with their fanbase. with the purpose of lining their pockets with all their money.

    January 14, 2016 at 6:27 pm in reply to: The last time the NFL left St. Louis compared to now #37316
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    http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/blog/2015/03/cardinals-are-most-profitable-team-in-baseball.html

    January 14, 2016 at 6:24 pm in reply to: The last time the NFL left St. Louis compared to now #37315
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    ultimately, it’s about the money. certain owners might feel an “attachment” to the community but only so far as how it affects their profits.

    i love the cardinals, but i don’t know that they care about me. why don’t they just move to los angeles like the rams just did? i don’t know. i think a lot of things go into that, but i think the last consideration they have is for the fans. the cardinals i think are actually the most profitable team in baseball right now. or at least in the top 5. part of their identity is intrinsically st. louis. that doesn’t mean they care about the community. only their public image. and damaging their public image means less profits ultimately. there really is no motivation for them to move. i suspect the same goes for the steelers. their identity is pittsburgh. it’s not about the fans. it’s about their identity.

    call me jaded, but corporations. billionaires. it’s all about profit. it’s all about expanding territory. it’s not about the community or the fans.

    January 14, 2016 at 1:21 am in reply to: reporters on the Rams to LA vote (1/12-1/13 so far) #37242
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    who knows. maybe this is a blessing in disguise. now st louis is off the hook for yet another 400 million dollars that goes to a totally unnecessary stadium. the ed jones dome will still be able to generate money for the city.

    http://www.ibtimes.com/nfl-los-angeles-rams-relocation-good-news-st-louis-economy-2263922

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    January 13, 2016 at 8:38 pm in reply to: Any pros or cons about the Coliseum ? #37224
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    that’s a good question. i have no idea.

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/splits/_/name/stl

    passing – advantage turf
    rushing – advantage grass

    on defense it’s hard to tell cuz i don’t know how many games the rams played on grass this season.

    if i’m to assume that the rams played four games on grass and twelve on turf, then the stats seem to be fairly equal.

    so yeah. i have no idea.

    January 13, 2016 at 7:52 pm in reply to: board response to the NFL vote…Rams to LA #37222
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    zn wrote:
    Ozoneranger wrote:

    t I can’t help thinking STL had a chance to keep the Rams for a measly $700 million renovation.

    According to reporters, the figure “700 million” was never real…that number came up in Goodell’s report dismissing the St. Louis efforts, but the reporters say it was never the figure St. Louis was given to meet. According to reports, the owners never saw the St. Louis plans. Goodell just stated they were inadequate and that was the end of it.

    Check this report out, for example.

    well. i never once believed it would be a fair fight once i saw the rams plans for inglewood. st louis was facing an uphill battle from the start.

    January 13, 2016 at 7:45 pm in reply to: board response to the NFL vote…Rams to LA #37221
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    bnw wrote:
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    but i definitely root for the uniform. when pujols left to the angels, i stopped paying attention to him. i can barely bring myself to watch an angels game or even look at a box score. and now heyward has gone to chicago. and he is dead to me. being a sports fan can often be confusing. illogical. but i’ll keep watching as long as it’s fun.

    For myself it depends upon how a player leaves. Pooholes left claiming the Cardinals disrespected him by offering a $219 million contract. Haywired wanted a shorter fence in Wrigley and not to be relied upon as a veteran team leader. Good riddance to both.

    yes. when warner left i didn’t blame him. and actually rooted for him. when bruce and holt left i understood. so circumstances play a part but i will always remain loyal to the uniform.

    January 13, 2016 at 7:16 pm in reply to: board response to the NFL vote…Rams to LA #37214
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    it’s weird. i’m a st. louis fan. my second favorite team is the st. louis cardinals. but i don’t live there anymore. i watch my teams on television. the internet makes it so easy to follow them that i could live half way across the world, and i’d still be able to get as much information on them as i could possibly want. so wherever the rams might go in the future, i’ll still follow them and enjoy watching them play.

    now if the cardinals left st. louis that’d be weird. i’d still follow them, but it’d seem wrong somehow. but the rams don’t seem like a st. louis team in the way that the cardinals and blues do, so it’s not that weird to me seeing them relocate. so whether they stay in st. louis, move to los angeles, or move to anchorage. it really doesn’t matter to me. i’ll always be a fan of the rams.

    but i definitely root for the uniform. when pujols left to the angels, i stopped paying attention to him. i can barely bring myself to watch an angels game or even look at a box score. and now heyward has gone to chicago. and he is dead to me. being a sports fan can often be confusing. illogical. but i’ll keep watching as long as it’s fun.

    January 13, 2016 at 12:42 pm in reply to: board response to the NFL vote…Rams to LA #37155
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    yup. dak and ag and herzog and so many more i’m forgetting. great posters. there’s gonna be change on this board. sucks. hopefully guys come back.

    January 13, 2016 at 11:02 am in reply to: reporters on the Rams to LA vote (1/12-1/13 so far) #37108
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    zn wrote:

    Amy Trask ‏@AmyTrask
    During my years in the league, I can count on one hand (w/fingers left to spare), the number of times that the (1/2)

    (2/2) recommendation of a committee & in those instances, the issue was tabled, rather than voted upon, while accommodations were made.

    Andrew Brandt @AndrewBrandt
    Been around NFL owners meetings a long time, cannot remember league turning its back on a committee recommendation (Carson) as yesterday.

    i don’t think the committee ever really supported carson. just an attempt to strong arm kroenke into making some more concessions for spanos.

    i hope someone makes a documentary about this some day. an honest one.

    January 13, 2016 at 12:20 am in reply to: board response to the NFL vote…Rams to LA #37079
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    it’s a joke really. jerry jones called kroenke “god-sent”… “god-sent” to make his billionaire friends even richer.

    January 12, 2016 at 11:59 pm in reply to: sorry to hear that Mike #37075
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    the fallout from this move is just so depressing.

    January 12, 2016 at 10:57 pm in reply to: board response to the NFL vote…Rams to LA #37067
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    i feel for you guys. i really do.

    January 12, 2016 at 10:03 pm in reply to: PFF's 5 best players of 2015 + their rookie of the year + SI rookie of the year #37060
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    one of my wishes for the rams was that they one day draft the unequivocal best player of one particular draft. just absolutely nail that draft pick.

    this makes me so happy. i hope he is able to play many more years with the horned helmet.

    January 12, 2016 at 9:54 pm in reply to: board response to the NFL vote…Rams to LA #37058
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    zn wrote:

    I hope our community St. Louisans will stay on as Rams fans.

    yes.

    January 12, 2016 at 8:46 pm in reply to: board response to the NFL vote…Rams to LA #37051
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    over at the original herd someone is claiming revote went 30-2 rams to los angeles.

    January 12, 2016 at 8:34 pm in reply to: board response to the NFL vote…Rams to LA #37050
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    canadaram wrote:

    I’m sick for the fans from St Louis and San Diego.

    i feel bad for fans in general. if it wasn’t obvious before, it should be now. the owners don’t care about the fans. never did.

    January 12, 2016 at 7:59 pm in reply to: … relocation stuff (from before the vote) #37044
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    wow. that close. now you gotta wonder if some deal is going to be struck or if a vote is made on a ram/charger partnership?

    January 12, 2016 at 5:14 pm in reply to: … relocation stuff (from before the vote) #37040
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    Agamemnon wrote:

    SD moving to LA is like the Rams moving to Columbia

    yeah. not exactly like moving half way across the continent.

    January 12, 2016 at 4:08 pm in reply to: … relocation stuff (from before the vote) #37038
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    as bad as st louisans are feeling right now. those feelings were just as raw when the rams left los angeles.

    i don’t think it does any good wondering whether georgia or stan were worse owners. i think at the end the fans were hurt just the same.

    and at the end of this someone is going to get cut. whether it be rams fans st louis or los angeles or chargers fans in san diego or raiders fans in oakland.

    January 12, 2016 at 12:39 pm in reply to: … relocation stuff (from before the vote) #37028
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    we’re all losers in this…

    well except for the owners that is.

    January 12, 2016 at 12:39 am in reply to: … relocation stuff (from before the vote) #37006
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    yeah. their hatred of kroenke is eclipsed only by their hatred of the raiders in los angeles.

    it also seems to be a near consensus that the inglewood stadium is better than the carson stadium in every way.

    and kroenke knows it. the owners need kroenke in la. but they do feel loyalty to spanos. so somehow they gotta find a way for the two of them to coexist.

    i still feel like spanos is going to want to make it work in san diego but will have a deal with kroenke in place should that fall through.

    January 11, 2016 at 9:57 pm in reply to: … relocation stuff (from before the vote) #37001
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    geez. kroenke’s got the league by their collective balls.

    urging st louis to continue with stadium plans. bringing in this carson stadium plan. owners desperately trying to talk up spanos and carson. trying to bend kroenke to their will. i think kroenke is smiling. he knows he can do whatever he wants. it’s the only explanation i can come up with. all this talking up of the carson and st louis plans seem like rubbish cuz now the reports seem to indicate that owners want spanos and kroenke to hash out a deal. i’m even wondering if kroenke is just going to play the hand out and not budge one more inch. IF it’s the rams and chargers, i still think spanos tries to find a way to stay in san diego.

    it’s kind of sickening when you think about it.

    January 11, 2016 at 1:32 am in reply to: Greg Williams #36957
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    losing ogletree and quinn combined with a really horrible offense hampered this defense.

    i agree with everyone who commends him on the job he did with the secondary.

    January 9, 2016 at 7:42 pm in reply to: Carson Wentz news, playing now #36894
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    if that happens better to sit and wait. wouldn’t even want to trade up.

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