to be fair to gordon i don’t think he’s trying to say that the rams were intentionally tanking a season or that they had a lousy draft.

i think he’s just saying that they were building for 2016 not 2015.

where i disagree with him is saying that it was in preparation for a move. even if they were staying in st. louis i think fisher would have had the same approach.

ok. maybe they weren’t lied to. i think they were misled at the very least. spanos was shocked by the lack of support he received when it came time to vote.

i also think this rams chargers agreement is a farce too. i don’t believe the nfl wants two teams in la. not at this point and not when they can use it as leverage in the future. the chargers will be back in san diego. the nfl wants the chargers in san diego. ok. now i’m just going off on a tangent.

but i do believe there was a conspiracy.

zn wrote:

InvaderRam wrote:

so three of the past four super bowl winners will have been based primarily around defense and the run game.

Agreed, but with a variation. Seattle and Carolina of course have running qbs.

so you’re saying they should draft dak prescott…

haha!

seriously though before that was flacco. so it can be done.

interestingly paxton lynch and carson wentz are supposed to have some running ability. so between those two and prescott there are some options there in the draft for running qbs.

two teams that have great defenses. carolina with the second ranked rushing offense in the league. denver’s passing offense ranked only 14th in the league.

so you can win with defense and running.

so three of the past four super bowl winners will have been based primarily around defense and the run game.

that makes me smile.

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my guess is wichmann and brown become at least average starters.

and yeah. absolutely nailed the first two picks.

if mannion were to become the eventual starter they will have essentially laid down the foundation of their offense in one draft.

chances are that isn’t the case but nice to imagine.

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zn wrote:

InvaderRam wrote:

i’m wondering what people’s opinions are on his 2015 season. complete failure or signs of promise?

Signs of promise. Upward trajectory. IMO.

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yeah people have to remember he is actually younger than rob havenstein, and he came from a program that probably wasn’t the best for developing young linemen whereas rob came from a pro linemen producing factory. plus he plays the less difficult of the two positions.

on the other hand there were reports he wasn’t taking his job seriously. let’s hope it’s just a matter of maturity.

and yeah they did add a lot of talent on the oline last year. some good draft picks. some solid signings. hopefully it all comes together next year.

so what is the final verdict on robinson 2015?

i’m wondering what people’s opinions are on his 2015 season. complete failure or signs of promise?

also what are the options if he doesn’t cut it? battle?

i do hope they stay in san diego. but i also hope they don’t do it at the expense of the city or the fans, but that’s not gonna happen.

so san diego has one year to find a solution.

i think it gets done. i don’t think the nfl wants 2 teams in la at this point.

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Agamemnon wrote:

That sounds like they are talking about Cleveland, not the Rams.

It looks like Favre vs Rogers. Wouldn’t we rather have Wentz?

i fear wentz won’t be available anymore unless the rams trade up.

• This reply was modified 8 years, 9 months ago by InvaderRam.

i’m stating the obvious here but it all hinges on robinson. they seem to be solid at the four other spots. havenstein might be the second coming of runyan. and i think a healthy brown and wichmann could really take off next season. barnes should be solid at center. but yeah. if robinson could reach close to his potential, this line could quickly become a strength on thus team.

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Ourlads has Dak Prescott as #1 rated QB….

i like dak prescott. i think he’d fit this offense real well. he’d be mostly a game manager with some running ability. imagine trying to defend him and gurley and austin.

plus he’d be available in the second round.

i’d go with janoris.