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  • in reply to: Goff…more assessments #43796
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    also when i say goff can be bradford with better pocket presence and vision that’s a compliment.

    i mean imagine bradford with better pocket presence and vision…

    that’s pretty good i think.

    as far as supporting cast his rookie year bradford might actually have a slight edge.

    he had jackson and amendola.

    just think he’d be better off with a high volume pass catcher to take pressure off him. without that i don’t see his passer rating going north of 80. maybe next year if cooper and/or thomas get more experience. i actually think cooper can be that guy eventually but he needs time.

    in reply to: Goff…more assessments #43795
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    i can only go from qbs i personally watched which is from 1995.

    i definitely think he can be better than pretty tony.

    now go watch him go on to be a huge flop.

    in reply to: Goff…more assessments #43793
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    his red zone stats are jaw dropping. that’s what excites me the most.

    and his feet in the pocket look great.

    as i’ve said before bradford in the pocket could never sense where the pass rush was coming from.

    i think goff could be bradford with better pocket presence and better vision. facing that much pressure and still having the ability to find receivers. he should be way ahead of sam in those departments.

    in reply to: FTP 5/9/16 Draft Analysis w/Matt Waldman #43791
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    better prospect than winston and mariota?

    i like it.

    on football outsiders they rate goff’s chances as slightly below mariota and just above aaron rodgers. wentz and winston not rated highly while russell wilson was.

    but i agree with that post that says you need long term stability. whether you like fisher or not i feel like they’re almost obligated now to extend fisher. give goff stability so that he can develop properly.

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    in reply to: GR? #43790
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    i’m cautiously optimistic with grob.

    probably the third most important player on offense?

    in reply to: Gurley on twitter #43788
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    my favorite player on the rams. here’s to a great year leading the offense next year.

    set the standard, todd!

    it will have been nearly two years since his acl injury. he should be at full powers for the start of the season.

    for example look at doug martin in his first and second years after acl injury.

    • This reply was modified 8 years, 6 months ago by Avatar photoInvaderRam.
    in reply to: Arians on Tim Couch #43787
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    so much of it is timing and being in the right situation.

    this isn’t your usual number one pick going to a piss poor team. goff will have guys around him to help him out. as mentioned before gurley as well as a good defense.

    just hope the oline is ready and wish they had a go to receiver to take pressure off him.

    in reply to: Rams 2016, Falcons 2008 #43692
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    also. as you said. ryan had roddy white his rookie year. i wish they could have signed a veteran wr or te in free agency to help goff out. a guy like ladarius green would have been nice rather than gambling on higbee and hemingway. i just wonder who goff’s safety blanket is going to be as a rookie. they can’t just rely on gurley to carry the load.

    to use another example. winston not only had martin he had evans to take pressure off him. even mariota had walker who caught for over 1000 yards mariota’s rookie year. who is goff going to have?

    in reply to: Rams 2016, Falcons 2008 #43689
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    i think the key has to be that they have stability on the oline. for both gurley and goff.

    oline is still a question mark although it did improve as last season went along.

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    my hope is that goff is so freaking good that fisher has no choice but to start him from the first week. wishful thinking i know.

    in reply to: rookie numbers #43566
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    good numbers. especially like cooper’s and thomas’.

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    by the way, mack, i don’t know about all these different offenses and whether a wco can work or not without a mobile qb. but i did have a preference for the mobile qb. just having that extra dimension that defenses had to account for was appealing. wentz’s experience working under center was appealing to me.

    but the choice has been made, and i see a lot of merit to picking goff. now i can’t go into detail like you can about why it will or will not work. i just have a hunch. ya like that? i just got a hunch that it could work. that’s all i got. but what you say is very interesting even though i’ll never understand the nuances of it. it’s something that will be in the back of my mind as we watch how the next three years or so unfold.

    or who knows? maybe fisher gets fired. and the rams hire sean payton as the new head coach! ha!

    • This reply was modified 8 years, 6 months ago by Avatar photoInvaderRam.
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    well comparing this team to recent superbowl winners, the best comps i can come up with are the baltimore ravens and the seattle seahawks.

    great defenses coupled with great backfields.

    on one hand you have russell wilson who in addition to being a great passer has the added dimension of being able to create with his feet.

    on the other hand you have joe flacco who is more of your traditional pocket passer. adequate mobility but nothing to write home about.

    can the rams have a great defense? well some of the pieces are there. they took a little bit of a step back, but if quinn can get healthy again and ogletree can get healthy and be an upgrade over laurinaitis at middle linebacker, then the chances are good if they can add another piece (free safety!) in the next couple years.

    how about gurley? i think he has a legitimate chance to be special. i think we have all seen glimpses of it already. so it depends on him staying focused and healthy. and i also think there’s a good chance he’s even stronger and faster than he was last year. so do i think he can be better than lynch or rice? yes. but he’s gotta actually do it. so we’ll see.

    goff is probably more like a flacco. more of a pocket passer. can he be as good or better than flacco. well you figure the rams are thinking he will be since they traded up to the number one pick. i think he can. i think his instincts in the pocket look special. but that was in the bear raid system. he was also playing from behind a lot. so who knows?

    some other factors have to come into play too. like can the rams find that slot receiver that so many teams covet these days? seattle has one of the best in the business. i keep repeating this, but i remember how effective the offense looked when bradford, jackson, and amendola were all healthy and on the field at the same time. and i’m sure that’s what fisher was thinking when he selected cooper. sounds a lot like a julian edelman type. a qb/rb/wr weapon who excels in the slot. cooper is said to not have the best hands but neither does edelman. but he could totally be that safety blanket that goff will need.

    • This reply was modified 8 years, 6 months ago by Avatar photoInvaderRam.
    in reply to: Is the NFL Ready for the Air Raid Offense? 2013 #43423
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    yeah foles wasn’t able to adjust at all. keenum did with relatively better success. hope goff does better.

    in reply to: Is the NFL Ready for the Air Raid Offense? 2013 #43418
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    does fisher adjust a little bit to goff? maybe he should.

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    i’d like to say i have no reservations, but i’ll admit i’m not 100% confident. i don’t know. i wonder how the air raid system compares to the one marcus mariota was in at oregon.

    This is why I preferred Wentz. I think this is something to be concerned about. Not saying Goff won’t work out but it’s no gimmee’.

    i felt the exact same way. i guess we just trust that the snish know what they’re doing.

    if they don’t then they’re gone anyway.

    in reply to: Michael Thomas #43362
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    anybody seen this guy in interviews? he talks like he plays. full of energy. his enthusiasm just oozes through. i’m really rooting for this guy.

    brian randolph too. that guy’s a character, but he’s also a tough hard worker.

    michael thomas interview:
    http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/videos/sports/college/southern-miss/football/2015/07/23/30561083/

    here’s brian randolph.

    • This reply was modified 8 years, 6 months ago by Avatar photoInvaderRam.
    in reply to: SI: How QBs Goff, Wentz and Lynch got drafted #43359
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    jared goff si cover

    • This reply was modified 8 years, 6 months ago by Avatar photoInvaderRam.
    in reply to: 4/28-? … the Goff pick reaction thread #43353
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    and actually against az and seattle last year they won 3 of 4 games. they need to find a receiver this year for goff. a safety blanket. i’m wondering now if cooper can be that guy. if he can then rams could be ok.

    but again i do wonder if the rams would be better off with a guy who can use his legs more.

    then again there’s always a tradeoff.

    • This reply was modified 8 years, 6 months ago by Avatar photoInvaderRam.
    in reply to: 4/28-? … the Goff pick reaction thread #43350
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    i agree. i liked wentz more because of his ability to create more outside the pocket.

    goff can do some of that but is not nearly as good as wentz.

    It’s just the classic distinction.

    I’ve done the numbers on this before, but, as a rule a pocket passer who makes quick throws has a lower sack percentage than a mobile qb who runs out of the pocket.

    There’s a sports science vid here somewhere that shows Goff’s release (time from cocking/throwing to ball gone) is quicker than Brady’s.

    That’s one of the things they like about him, if you listen to Snead and Fisher on Goff.

    I like Wentz too but they put their money on the quick release qb with the superior pocket presence, and that’s just not a bad bet.

    yeah. i believe that which is one reason i think wentz is going to have to temper his style.

    i think he will have a tendency to get nicked up if he doesn’t.

    i think though that mack also brings up an interesting point in how fisher will do with a pocket passer in the nfc west. does a fisher offense need that extra dimension to be successful? i don’t know.

    i do know that when fisher had bradford, jackson, and amendola healthy the rams offense looked good. and that was against nfc west defenses. problem is he’s rarely had that luxury.

    my guess is with a healthy goff, gurley, and if cooper can fill the slot receiver role. they can replicate what bradford, jackson, and amendola did.

    but that remains to be seen and arizona meanwhile has gotten even better on defense.

    in reply to: 4/28-? … the Goff pick reaction thread #43327
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    i agree. i liked wentz more because of his ability to create more outside the pocket.

    goff can do some of that but is not nearly as good as wentz.

    although. one thing i have reservations about is his tendency to get hurt. he’s gonna have to temper his style a little cuz the defenders are only going to get bigger and faster. not just in college but he got hurt his junior year in high school preventing him from playing qb.

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    PA Ram wrote:
    I wonder if the Pharoh Cooper pick is Tavon’s future replacement. They seem to have similar games and Tavon is going to get costly. I wonder if they looked ahead at that with this pick.

    That was the first thing that went through my mind when I read Pharoh described as a Swiss Army Knife. I like Tavon, but there is a salary cap. And, well….

    Well they just picked up Tavon’s 5th year bonus so he’s with them through 2017.

    It is possible though, I think, that Cooper learns enough of the Tavon role to fill in for those times when TA misses a couple of games.

    But at the same time Cooper is something TA is not nearly as good at–being the traditional slot receiver in the Amendola or Hakim role (not that he is identical to those 2 players in terms of skills). Or in the Baldwin role in Seattle. TA never really worked out to be that.

    i didn’t think of that but yeah. if he could be like an amendola or a welker type slot receiver that would be great. be that kind of safety blanket that goff will need.

    bradford, jackson, and amendola would look so effective at times together. tavon was supposed to offer that but never panned out. mabye fisher is thinking cooper can fill that amendola role…

    yeah i can dig that.

    • This reply was modified 8 years, 6 months ago by Avatar photoInvaderRam.
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    I group TEs, WRs, and RBs together. I want to keep a total of 14(keeping 10 oline means that is probably 13). Of course, there is a minimum number for each position. But, in my counting, it isn’t important where I place Tavon. Although, in my mind he is almost more of a RB, if anything. A RB who runs some WR routes. imo Just as some TEs could almost be thought of as big Wrs and what exactly is an H-back.

    just sign 13 h-backs and swiss army knives and todd gurley. hehe.

    • This reply was modified 8 years, 6 months ago by Avatar photoInvaderRam.
    in reply to: when will Goff start? #43297
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    Boy, it would be ballsy to start him week one, in San Francisco, on MNF. Welcome to the Big Time, kid.

    I dunno. But it seems to me that if the plan is to play him as soon as possible (i.e. this year), they may as well start from Week 1. Otherwise he isn’t working a full load; he would be working the scout team with backups, and his opportunity to learn diminishes.

    Seems to me that they oughta go Week 1 this year, or Week 1 next year. I don’t think Week 9, or whatever, makes sense.

    I guess if I had to wager, I would bet he starts Week 1 this year. The future is now.

    this. start him as soon as possible.

    unless of course the oline is in shambles or he’s so confused you’re worried about crushing his fragile little ego. but my guess is he can handle it. he handled a 1-11 season at cal as an 18 yr old.

    the best way to learn is just playing so unless keenum is lights out i figure they’ll just throw him into the fire.

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    i’d like to say i have no reservations, but i’ll admit i’m not 100% confident. i don’t know. i wonder how the air raid system compares to the one marcus mariota was in at oregon.

    in reply to: Pharoh Cooper #43250
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    i would also add that in the case of harvin, austin, and to a lesser extent cobb, all three were surrounded by much better players. harvin had tim tebow and aaron hernandez. austin had smith and bailey. cobb had a qb who threw for 3000 yards and 23 tds cobb’s junior season. cooper? his qb threw for less than 1900 yards and 12 tds cooper’s junior season. now when you look at cooper’s sophomore year when he had a better supporting cast. unsurprisingly his numbers were better.

    cooper sophomore year.
    http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/south-carolina/2014.html

    cooper junior year.
    http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/south-carolina/2015.html

    in reply to: Pharoh Cooper #43244
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    edit: he started his college career as a defensive back but was converted just before his freshman season.

    in reply to: Pharoh Cooper #43239
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    i’m bored and couldn’t think of anything to do. so my attention turned to pharoh cooper.

    a lot of people are comparing this guy to guys like tavon austin. but also guys like cobb and harvin. so i decided to look up the stats on each of these guys in college just for fun. it should be noted that cooper, harvin, and cobb all played in the sec although at different times while austin played in the big east. it should also be noted that cooper only played 2 seasons as a wr. his freshman season is listed as a defensive back. the other three played their entire college careers on offense although not necessarily at wr.

    i also want to say that cooper is by far the biggest of the 4. he’s got 15 pounds on both harvin and cobb. i’d like to see him used more in the running game than he was in college. and it seemed that whenever he did run, it was in the wildcat formation. wondering what he would look like if he was used more like austin on sweeps and as a running back. i mean he’s 208 pounds. he’s a big guy.

    pharoh cooper
    5’11” 208 lbs
    http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/pharoh-cooper-1.html
    138 rec 2163 recyds 15.7 ave 18 tds 71 rus 513 rusyds 7.2 ave 4 tds 209 touches 2676 totalyds 12.8 ave 22 tds

    randall cobb
    5’10” 192 lbs
    http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/randall-cobb-1.html
    144 rec 1661 recyds 11.5 ave 13 tds 228 rus 1313 rusyds 5.8 ave 22 tds 372 touches 2974 totalyds 8.0 ave 35 tds

    percy harvin
    5’11” 194 lbs
    http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/percy-harvin-1.html
    133 rec 1929 recyds 14.5 ave 13 tds 194 rus 1852 rusyds 9.5 ave 19 tds 327 touches 3781 totalyds 11.6 ave 32 tds

    tavon austin
    5’8″ 176 lbs
    http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/tavon-austin-1.html
    288 rec 3413 recyds 11.9 ave 29 tds 110 rus 1033 rusyds 9.4 ave 6 tds 398 touches 4446 total yds 11.2 ave 35 tds

    he compares pretty favorably to these guys. his total touches and total yards and total tds lag far behind the other three, but when you take into account that he spent his first year essentially on defense and rarely saw the ball on offense, i think it’s understandable. if you take just his sophomore and junior seasons and extrapolate it over three seasons you get 279 touches 3630 total yards and 30 tds.

    also his average yards per touch is higher than any of the other three at 12.8.

    i’d like to see cooper used more in the running game than he was in college. they use austin the running game and he is 176 pounds. cooper is actually the size of a lot of running backs at 208 pounds, and i just wonder how effective he could be used in that role.

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    I would not be surprised to see two of the wide receivers from this draft make the team and another two on the practice squad.

    That’s for gaining ground on Seattle and Arizona, if Goff can play well in the pros, we gained a ton of ground.

    A rookie QB, a rookie TE and a couple rookie WR’s — probably not what you’d want on the field at the same time. Ya know.

    It will be interesting to see if Goff can ‘throw open’ guys like Britt and Tavon. And Gurley. The vets.

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    yeah. kendricks, austin, britt, and especially gurley should be who goff relies on the most this year. is there enough of a veteran presence to help the rook out?

    if goff can come in and do a job like carr did his rookie year. if higbee can replace cook AND be an upgrade. if michael thomas or cooper can be a 3rd or 4th wr and contribute a little. if randolph can grab the starting fs spot. if quinn comes back healthy. if gaines comes back healthy. if ogletree comes back healthy and can make a successful transition. if greg robinson can build on the second half of last year. if gurley comes back stronger and faster than last year.

    i think then the rams can gain some ground on the cardinals and seahawks. that’s a lot of ifs though.

    in reply to: Seattle #43204
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    goff pick is important for sure, but i think picks like higbee and thomas and randolph as a udfa could make a big difference in closing the gap. really need to hit on these draft picks.

    ogletree and quinn getting healthy could too.

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