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InvaderRamModeratori trust that mcvay will go with the best qb. i don’t think he’ll go with goff if he isn’t the guy who gives him the best chance to win.
InvaderRamModeratoryeah i’m not trying to say goff’s career has been decided one way or another. as horrifying as that interception was he showed great awareness when he avoided a pass rusher on the first drive and looked off brown giving brown some room to run when he dumped it off.
a work in progress.
InvaderRamModeratorgoff was disappointing. i understand kupp and gurley didn’t suit up but those two turnovers had nothing to do with them not being in the game. but you gotta figure there were going to be some setbacks. and there will probably be more.
he did look good in the beginning though.
InvaderRamModeratorcool. i wanna see how goff does without gurley back there. i also want to see if he’s developed a rapport with watkins and/or everett.
August 26, 2017 at 7:33 pm in reply to: Robinson 'locked in' at left tackle for Lions, per report #73312
InvaderRamModeratorif he ends up doing well, i admit i’ll wonder what he could have done with the coaching staff. of course the coaching staff took a look at him and decided he wasn’t needed so…
August 26, 2017 at 6:13 pm in reply to: Robinson 'locked in' at left tackle for Lions, per report #73303
InvaderRamModeratori read that he did very well against the patriots last night.
August 25, 2017 at 8:50 pm in reply to: with Phillips there’s substance behind the hype… & more Phillips articles #73263
InvaderRamModeratorI too like what I hear about WP’s ability to teach, but I don’t like it at GW’s expense.
i don’t think i’m really putting down williams at all. i did say he likes to scream a lot. and from the quotes, i think it pretty much was do it williams’ way or get out. and from the limited footage i saw with hard knocks and all or nothing, yeah it pretty much was that. a lot of screaming and threats. and that’s not to say that players didn’t like williams. it seems that they did. and i’m sure williams’ approach worked as well.
but yeah. i think phillips will be that much better than williams.
August 25, 2017 at 8:21 pm in reply to: with Phillips there’s substance behind the hype… & more Phillips articles #73259
InvaderRamModeratorwell it seems to me that this coaching staff is more about mutual respect. rather than just do what i say. if you learn the concepts i teach you and you put in the work i will put my faith in you. and i will empower you to be great on the field.
maybe that sounds a little cheesy but i could see it working.
InvaderRamModeratorSay one of them gives up two first rounders and two second rounders, in the next two drafts, plus a future third rounder.
if a team was willing to give up that much for mannion, i’d jump on that. i’m just not sure that a team would be willing to give up that much.
InvaderRamModeratoron paper that offense looks like it could actually be good this year. just seems like it depends on how good goff and gurley can be. makes me nervous but excited.
August 25, 2017 at 6:00 pm in reply to: with Phillips there’s substance behind the hype… & more Phillips articles #73249
InvaderRamModeratorPhillips believes that coaches and players can be friends.
hmm… don’t tell martz that.
seriously though i see a theme here. teaching is really emphasized with this coaching staff. not just yelling and cussing to get your point across.
August 24, 2017 at 11:57 pm in reply to: with Phillips there’s substance behind the hype… & more Phillips articles #73199
InvaderRamModeratorthis defense could be something else. they just gotta find a way to get donald back and keep quinn healthy.
but i feel so much better with wade than i do with gregg.
InvaderRamModeratoreverett is kind of a forgotten player in this offense. an x factor.
all the hype is around kupp and watkins and it’s not unjustified. the receiver corps looks like a good blend of talent and skills that should complement each other very well.
but everett could take this offense over the top.
he’s got very good size. great explosion and change of direction skills. his problems are that the tight end position is a hard position to learn. he and the other tight ends have a lot of work to do on blocking.
but if he can put it all together this offense could be a nightmare to match up with.
i just wish he had bigger hands. i’ve yet to see him catch the ball and hold on after a big hit. until then i will continue to worry about those miniscule hands.
August 22, 2017 at 8:35 pm in reply to: Goff: Dallas pre-season game to end of the pre-season #73050
InvaderRamModeratorwell it ain’t just the stats. goff this year is doing it against first team defenses. i don’t think that was the case last year. i could be wrong, but it was against much lesser competition.
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August 22, 2017 at 7:22 pm in reply to: Martz back peddles about his supposed comments on Sean McVay #73043
InvaderRamModeratorI think that part could be premature.
You might be interested in the last 2 posts in this thread: http://theramshuddle.com/topic/how-fare-brown-havenstein/
fair enough. but if i wasn’t such a huge rams fan, i would be looking at this team and rolling my eyes…
honestly. probably not diplomatic of martz with his comments. the way they were put. but he raises good questions.
i know among the media peter schrager is drinking the kool aid.
but hell. why not? why not drink the kool aid? unless it’s actual kool aid spiked with actual poison. right?
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August 22, 2017 at 6:36 pm in reply to: Martz back peddles about his supposed comments on Sean McVay #73037
InvaderRamModeratorthe chances that mcvay is competent? i don’t know. it can’t be high. he IS only 31 years old.
the chances that this could all blow up in the rams’ faces? let’s see. the youngest coach in modern nfl history. a 22 year old quarterback coming from a system with no track record for success. a creaky offensive line where the right side has looked shaky at best and a center who hasn’t even started for the past 2 years… ehhh. the chances are more likely than not that this will not work out. especially when you consider this is the rams we’re talking about. i hate to say it.
but i remain an optimist. i believe gurley will come back despite what the past 24 games have shown us. and i believe that watkins will remain healthy for an entire season. i believe that a 35 year old left tackle still has another probowl season in him. i believe a third round wide receiver is the next great slot receiver of this generation. i believe in these tight ends who have a collective 7 games of starting experience between the three of them…
and ummm… yes. i hope.
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August 21, 2017 at 7:17 pm in reply to: Goff: Dallas pre-season game to end of the pre-season #72975
InvaderRamModeratorhmm…
i see a lot of angst on both sides of the argument as to whether or not goff can be successful. not on this board but on other boards. it’s making a proper analysis of goff somewhat hard.
truth is we don’t know. no one really knows. we’ll just have to wait and see unfortunately. the one thing i am becoming convinced of is that goff could not be in better hands. i think the front office hit a home run with mcvay. he’s able to make a connection with his players. we read about it with cooley and reed and cousins as well. call it the qb whisperer or whatever but i think the rams could not have picked anyone better to get the most out of their young qb.
InvaderRamModeratorreading this article about jordan reed and his time with mcvay.
i can’t help reading this and thinking how similar to reed kupp sounds, and some of the things mcvay saw in kupp that made him so attractive are probably the same things he saw in reed.
but also this article speaks to mcvay’s ability to make a connection with his players. so not just reed and kupp. but the rest of the team as well.
Redskins tight end Jordan Reed formed a bond with his coach Sean McVay
By Jason Reid Columnist July 25, 2014
RICHMOND — After hearing that Washington Redskins tight ends coach Sean McVay had been promoted to offensive coordinator in January, tight end Jordan Reed called McVay to offer his congratulations and ask a question. Reed and McVay grew close last season, and Reed wondered whether McVay would still have time for him.
“Can you believe that?” asked McVay, who smiled and shook his head while recalling the conversation Friday during a break from practice. “He actually thought I’d be too busy for him. You always make time for guys like him.”
Especially if you’re an assistant coach who hopes to remain employed.
Coach Jay Gruden has big plans for the young tight end, whose combination of size, speed — he’s listed at 6 feet 2, 237 pounds and covers the 40-yard dash in 4.7 seconds — and route running make him a major matchup problem for defenses. And with deep-threat wide receiver DeSean Jackson often expected to draw double teams, Reed and others in the Redskins’ receiving corps should benefit from single coverage.
No one needs to tell Gruden how to best use Reed. However, if Gruden ever has a question about Reed, he can call on McVay, who knows him better than anyone in the organization. The work they did together last fall could help Reed blast off this year. From the start, they developed a model coach-player relationship.
“He’s obviously a great player, but I really enjoy him as a person, too,” McVay said. “He’s a great guy, so you want to continue to be involved with him.”
Generally, head coaches are father figures, disciplinarians. Position coaches are supposed to be like big brothers. The best skillfully walk the line of being a supervisor, teacher and friend. They’re the ones in whom players usually confide.
During three-plus seasons coaching Redskins tight ends, McVay had a good rapport with all players who reported to him. He took pride in working hard and being honest, figuring that’s the best way to lead. For that, he earned the players’ respect.
A third-round selection from Florida in the 2013 draft, Reed quickly learned McVay had his back. Whatever he needed — another question answered in the meeting room, extra work after practice or a quick tip on the sideline during games — McVay delivered way before Reed ascended to the top of the depth chart.
Some assistants attempt to latch onto fast-risers, hoping to advance their careers, and ignore the players at the bottom of the roster, but “Coach McVay always tries to help everybody,” Reed told me recently. “You know if he says something, he means it.”
Reed peppered McVay with questions about every aspect of playing tight end in the NFL, his role in the Redskins’ offense and what he could do to improve. Although Reed began the season as the third-string tight end behind veterans Fred Davis and Logan Paulsen, coaches and players privately raved about the big plays he made in closed practices.
It was only a matter of time, many said, before Reed supplanted Davis as the starter. Davis accelerated the process by continuing to be a knucklehead — you can’t repeatedly fall asleep in meetings and then complain about how you’re being used — and it became clear Reed was too good to remain on the sideline.
In preparation for Reed’s starting assignment, McVay came up with an idea he hoped would make the transition as smooth as possible. At the team hotel the night before games, McVay and Reed reviewed the game plan. In rooms used for team meetings, they would spend hours discussing routes, potential problems the defense could present and counters to the defense.
Obviously, the sessions paid off. Reed emerged as an integral member of the passing game.
His breakout performance occurred in an Oct. 20 victory over the Chicago Bears, when he had nine catches for 134 yards — the highest totals ever for a Redskins rookie tight end — and scored a touchdown. In an impressive first season cut short because of a concussion, Reed finished second on the team with 45 receptions for 499 yards (an 11.1-yard average). He also had three touchdown receptions, tying him for second on the team.
McVay has seen enough to express confidence Reed “is capable of being as good as he wants to be. It’s just a matter of being able to take care of himself and stay healthy.”
Reed wasn’t as forthcoming as he should have been about the lingering effects of hits to his head. He says that won’t happen again. McVay and new tight ends coach Wes Phillips, whose grandfather, Bum, and father, Wade, were former NFL head coaches, will hold Reed to it.
InvaderRamModeratori just want to add that as good as the stats were on goff. and they were good. his play was even better when you consider that mcvay was most likely dialing it back on that last drive.
InvaderRamModeratori’m more worried about goff.
if gurley isn’t good but goff is, i don’t think the rams have much to worry about.
but if goff is a flop and gurley is good, the rams will still be in trouble. the rams need goff to be successful much more than they need gurley to be successful.
and then the obvious. i want to see sammy watkins. i never watched him that much with him playing for buffalo, but i kind of noticed him from afar. now i get to see him from play to play. i like his physical makeup. strong, powerful, and fast. rams have never really had THAT kind of receiver before.
also i want to see quinn playing. he’s worrying me as well. need him healthy for the season for this defense to be at full powers.
i also want to see how brown and havenstein do. last week was not very promising. hopefully, they’ve worked some kinks out.
August 19, 2017 at 2:01 pm in reply to: Goff: Dallas pre-season game to end of the pre-season #72849
InvaderRamModerator. Will need to work on his 3-5 and 7-step drops to the throwing point from under center. Goff never played under center and the defense looks a whole lot different when dropping back and making your reads rather than seeing the field from a shotgun formation.
This is the thing. Has to learn.
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well hopefully we see a lot of him dropping back tonight against oakland.
it’s the preseason so might as well work on the things he’s uncomfortable with.
and hopefully we’ll see a couple touchdown drives as well with him dropping back.
InvaderRamModeratorGurley is a mystery. To me a lot of last year was him. Yeah the line wasn;t executing but it was still part him. And, I don;t know what went wrong, and therefore don’t know if I can trust if it has been fixed.
i’m worried about gurley. and it wasn’t just last year. he had problems his rookie year after an amazing first five games.
and i’m not sure a two tight end offense suits his game. i keep hearing how he needs a fullback to be truly effective. i don’t see that happening under mcvay. but maybe with rogers, that changes. i also read about everett lining up some in the backfield.
and maybe mcvay uses him more as a receiver as well.
we’ll see.
InvaderRamModeratorIf Austin does get healthy, the Rams still believe he has the potential to justify that Top 10 draft pick.
if he can do that. and if watkins can stay healthy. and kupp is who we think he is.
rams easily have the best wr corps in the nfc west. but most likely all three things won’t happen.
InvaderRamModeratorreminds me a lot of steven jackson. he’d get a lot nicks but usually would be able to play through. it was the foot injury that kept him out of most of those games.
so yeah. if the foot is ok, he should be ok.
InvaderRamModeratorit’d be a bummer if donald didn’t play to start the season. he’s a helluvalotta fun to watch that’s for sure.
InvaderRamModeratorIn a sense he’s like a bigger, stronger Stevie Smith or DeSean Jackson.
that’s kinda what i was thinking. desean only bigger but also a little slower.
August 16, 2017 at 11:32 pm in reply to: Goff, McVay, 8/16, vids & transcripts, + 2 McVay audios, including Mike & Mike #72693
InvaderRamModeratorso goff says the past couple days he tried to test his limits. try things he normally wouldn’t try in a real game. force things a little bit in his own words. thus the interceptions.
i believe him. you gotta take a couple steps back before you can move forward. hopefully, he learned some things.
InvaderRamModeratoreasily my favorite move of the offseason. best wr since torry holt or the next danario alexander?
i guess we’ll find out…
InvaderRamModeratori’m freaking out, man!
seriously though. just want to see him playing football again. if he can get the opt out clause good for him. if he can’t, then oh well. but i’ll never feel sorry for the team when a player is trying to squeeze as much as he can out of them. and i’ll also never feel sorry for a player if he’s being made the highest paid player in the league.
i just want to see donald playing this year for the rams and into the future. he’s gonna be special.
August 16, 2017 at 12:04 am in reply to: Fearsome Twosome: Jared Goff's progression + Sammy Watkins = ??? – Podcast #72604
InvaderRamModeratoralso the media are being way harsh on goff.
they talk about the 2 ints he threw in practice. i liked that i read from a poster he also threw 10 tds that same practice so why not mention that?
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