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You ask me to keep it fun when I have people like 21Dog is known to make negative comments on anything I post. Including comments about an obviously qualified person such as Lee Steinberg who respected by many. Or did you not read 21Dog’s comments.
Keeping it fun goes both ways.Grits
“Contrary to Mr. Grubman’s fanciful depiction of what happened, our reporter was quoting Mr. Jones from an interview conducted in his office in Irving, Texas, about 1,100 miles from Green Bay, several days before the Cowboys’ loss to the Packers,” said New York Times editor Jason Stallman via e-mail.
OOPS!
“That’s why Eric may have thought the comment was made there,” NFL vice president Greg Aiello told the Post-Dispatch via e-mail. “Eric’s point was about the substance of the comments, not where they were made. Where they were made is irrelevant.
More oops! Really Mr. Aiello? It doesn’t matter? I think it matters a lot when besmirch the rep of one of your owners saying he wasn’t in his right mind.
Grits
Great video by reporter Eric Geller.
former and current Rams are coaching the NFLPA squads in Carson / LA this week for the NFLPA all star game which takes place this Saturday Jan 17th. Eric interviews Jackie Slater, Nolan Cromwell, Lawrence McCutcheon, Greg Williams and Tre Mason about the move back to LA.Grits
Jerry Jones “The Rams can move” from the NY Times. See the linc
JONES SAYS RAMS CAN MOVE When the St. Louis Rams owner Stan Kroenke announced plans last week to build an 80,000-seat football stadium near downtown Los Angeles, it raised the specter that he might unilaterally move his team to Southern California.After his announcement, the N.F.L. reiterated that any team relocation must be approved by at least 24 out of the league’s 32 owners. The N.F.L. controls the Los Angeles market, and Commissioner Roger Goodell has said that any move there must be done in an orderly way.
But in an interview last week, the Dallas Cowboys’ owner, Jerry Jones, said that while he prefers that the owners approve any team moving to Los Angeles, a team could possibly move there without league approval.
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“As it would turn out now, apart from the league saying no, you can move there,” he said. “Keep in mind that teams have moved without the permission of the league. They just have.”
Asked if Kroenke could move on his own, Jones said: “He can if the league says he can’t.”
Asked if the N.F.L. preferred to coordinate any relocation, Jones said: “Again, there are just certain things that clubs can do.”
Jones’s comments are bound to stir interest in a murky and emotional process because he is one of the N.F.L.’s most powerful and unconventional owners.
The league said last month that the Rams, the San Diego Chargers and the Oakland Raiders would not move to Los Angeles in 2015. But Kroenke has the ability to shift to a year-to-year lease at the Edward Jones Dome, where the Rams play.That would give him the flexibility to leave St. Louis in the coming years.
“The idea of Stan going ahead and making his announcement was driven by all of the right things,” said Jones, who cited Kroenke’s having a deal for a location and his owning a team with “a great legacy.”
Jones added, “All of that is to me a very positive thing for Los Angeles and for the N.F.L.”
Last week, civic leaders in Missouri unveiled plans to build a new 64,000-seat outdoor stadium in downtown St. Louis to persuade Kroenke to stay. KEN BELSON
Grits
My goodness. You guys have really gone to town on this subject. Good stuff too. I’ve read a few of the posts.
I think we all agree that the Rams are moving back to LA. If we just approach this from a business standpoint it makes perfect sense.
Stan’s plan benefits the league as well. I think Stan was cognizant of that and made sure that there was stuff benefitting the league in this deal.
One huge benefit is the league’s network is in LA and now they are going to have a marquee base of operations with a studio built either into that stadium or on the same grounds near it.
Nobody and I mean nobody in St Louis is trumpeting the ugly edifice that is Peacock’s proposal. Most telling is that the Governor and the Mayor didn’t bother to show either.
64,000 seat 1970s style stadium that is going to cost a billion dollars. 2,000 seats less in seating capacity than the Edward Jones dome. 16,000 less seats than the palace that Kroenke is going to build in Inglewood.
As for the league stopping Kroenke from moving? I get the sense the league gave Kroenke the okay to announce this deal.
I heard a local sports guy a few weeks ago, John Ireland on ESPN LA and he is the play by play guy for the Lakers as well and his take on this initial no teams moving in 2015 was some kind of negotiating ploy. It was about a week later that The City of Champions Project in Inglewood was announced.
I don’t think Kroenke is the type of guy who would deliberately try to piss off his business partners. Those being the other owners in the NFL.
The NFL is not a bunch of dummies, I think they knew this was coming. They also realize that keeping the team in St Louis for 2015 is not a good idea because the atmosphere there is going to be toxic. I think you will see Kroenke move the team and it may even appear he’s doing it against league wishes. This way he takes the hit as Simon Legree the evil villain and the league will work things out as the did in 1995 and the Rams will be in LA. Remember this. The Rams played in Busch Stadium in 1995. The Dome was not ready when they moved there. So now they play in either the Rose Bowl or the Coliseum until 2018.
Grits
Yah, that presentation was not very good.
Also,
1. Gee, Gov Nixon, so fired up about Peacock and Blitz November 5th does not show up for presentation January 9th.
Wow that was impressive. Is the old Gov beginning to distance himself from this plan?There will be no financing without a committment of a team. That is so WE DON’T HAVE TO EXPLAIN WHAT THE FINANCING IS.
2. I’m sure Kroenke is turning cartwheels about having to foot 400 million for a stadium he will not own that has ONLY 64,000 SEATS!!! And will not be ready until 2020? BTW Peacock. The 80,000 seat stadium in Inglewood is projected to open in 2018 and will be privately funded.
3. How many Super Bowls is that 64,000 seat stadium by the Muddy Missouri going to get as opposed to that 80,000 seat stadium in LA aka Hollywood, Beveryly Hills, Malibu Beautiful sunny Socal! Think the league and Kroenke are willing to make that trade?
Too little too late, sorry guys gotta run, LA is calling!
Grits
Over 1500 fans at the Rally in LA on Sunday
