Very cool to hear that voice, the one that seemed to say Deacon Jones on every play back when I was 8 or 9yrs old. I grew up in L.A. as well.

zn wrote:

Eternal Ramnation wrote:
I don’t know about the numbers but after watching the Washington game Hill was not at all impressive in my view anyway.Looks like the same thing that happened to Davis when he started playing against good Defenses, they have recent film on him now. When he gets rattled he throws way too high and ball security goes to shit. A number of the “good throws” were in reality great plays by Britt and Bailey on poorly thrown balls.Vermeil said backups can have a good game or two but to win consistently you need more talent at the QB position. He also said they should get rid of Long because he gave up the hit that took Bradford out.

It is true that the ARz defense got to the Rams OL and that had an effect on Hill. But from what I saw, nothing about it was Davis level. And in fact all that happened there, to me, was that a defense that matches up well with the Rams offense did to Hill what the Rams defense did to Manning this year and Luck last year.

Not that Hill is Luck or Manning, but he is better than that one game. Evidence of that was the way they broke out late in the 4th and drove on ARz, and that included some timely sharp throws from Hill. It wasn’t enough that game, but he did not melt down Davis style.

I agree zn, I did not mean he had a melt down only that he came back to Earth once teams got some film on him. He is a very good backup but , he is definitely a back up

That goes way back , remember when the Rams knocked the Vikes Brad Johnson out opening the door for Randall Cunningham and a 15 and 1 season ?

I think the Rams should just go OL in the draft ,we need a center and R&F Guards,I like Saffold but he gets hurt a lot. A dominant OL would help more than any rookie QB the Rams can draft.

This team makes me feel stupid every time I watch them,no heart ,no brains the world champions of disappointment. I wish they would retire the name Rams while we can still remember the one good year they had.

I don’t think that is accurate. The Rams needed both Hawks and Cards to lose out and go 9 and 7 so they would win the division on tie-breakers. Wild card Dallas and Philly and vikes own tie breakers over Rams. Their shot was to win division.

rfl wrote:

Eternal Ramnation wrote:
The part about TA’s use as a threat to set up Mason’s screen is for me obvious TA is stressing defenses whether or not he touches the ball

ER, I’d be interested in knowing what you see that causes you to say that.

I don’t see it at all. TA has touched the ball many times in 2 years, and I rarely had any sense that the defense was finding it hard to close the door on him.

People say that down field plays are set up by adjustments to TA. Well, how is what defenses are doing any different from what they would do A) trying to shut Tre down and B) not generally respecting our WRs?

Honestly. What do you see? I don’t see it at all.

Well RFL , it is a recent development but the whole sequence against Oakland screen TA left 1st down Screen Ta right 1st down. The next play to me anyways ( I’ve just watched that opening drive many times) Hill fakes another screen to TA left and it draws the whole defense in TA’s direction,not for long but with Mason’s speed a second is enough.Later on the next drive when Bailey starts heating up TA when he’s in is freeing up Bailey by drawing the better coverage towards TA.Then of course on Mason’s 89yrd run TA actually gets 2 blocks when he catches Mason and escorts him to the endzone, nice play without the ball.Also the speed sweep TA’s scored on looked to me like it was commanding respect the rest of the game.So I do think they use him effectively as a threat more so these last 2 games. On the negative side I do think TA is a slow learner, I mean they tried to run that sweep early against the Vikes and it didn’t seem he understood where and when he had to be for the design of the play and he would do the freelance stutter step dance for a 1 yd gain.

Looks like a brilliant move to me,he looked fine in coverage against Oakland but in any case love the way he hits!

I commend the players that did and wish it was the whole team.The KKK connected military armed incompetent cops were offended? Fuck em.

Good juju slingshot engaged .

zn wrote:

Emmanuel Sanders: Was a legal hit

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/1…-denver-broncos-says-hit-was-legal-ready-play

ENGLEWOOD, Colo. – Denver Broncos wide receiver Emmanuel Sanders said Friday he’s ready to play Sunday against the Miami Dolphins and that St. Louis Rams safety Rodney McLeod made “a legal hit” on the tackle that resulted in Sanders’ concussion.

Sanders did add, however, he believed McLeod could have made more of an attempt to go for the ball rather than the hit.

“I think it was a legal hit,” Sanders said after Friday’s practice. “Obviously, [McLeod] didn’t hit me in the head or lead with the head. He hit me with the shoulder. But in terms of the intentions of targeting, I feel like the guy could have had an opportunity to go for the ball, but I think his intentions the whole time were to come over and deliver a blow. That’s the only thing that I’m not too happy about.

“I feel like the National Football League, although it is a violent game, you’re also supposed to protect your brother. And most free safeties, they like interceptions. Obviously, his intent was to try and make a statement, and I guess he did.”

Sanders was knocked out of last Sunday’s 22-7 Broncos loss on the fourth play of the second half. Peyton Manning threw a ball deep up the right sideline and McLeod arrived, with shoulder to shoulder contact, asSanders was diving to try to make the catch.

Friday was also the first time Sanders had spoken extensively about the play.

“Yeah, I remember the play,” Sanders said. “I remember everything. I had a go ball, I had the corner one-on-one, and I had beat the corner, and I was actually open, and I was running, and I laid out for the ball, and he came over and he didn’t even look at the ball the entire time, he was just looking at me and ready to hit me.”

Well Sanders was definitely not a defenseless player. I don’t want my FS going for picks ,I want him doing his job as the last line of defense and saving a TD. McCleod took a lot of care in hitting a very quickly moving small target within the rules which is not an easy task in todays NFL.He did protect his brother not hitting with his helmet not hitting Sanders in the head or knees.That said I could understand that hit scaring the crap out of him but this is the NFL and the Rams D is going to hit as hard and often as they can,it’s what great D’s do.

One thing that surprised me was arm strength. Fisher said something about Hill’s arm being fresh from the time off (he did throw a lot in camp and preseason,more than he is used to) Britt remarked how he must have spent the time off in the weight room. When I rewatched the game somewhere between 4 and 4 million times his delivery looked much better,snappier than the long looping release on the last pass in game 1.

Yes I have to admit I underestimated Hill abilities . He had a few misfires but was very cool under fire and there were some throws that Davis doesn’t make. The running game was going well against the #1 rated Rushing Defense in the NFL.

PA Ram wrote:

Eternal Ramnation wrote: Hill looked good but when you hold the Denver Broncos to 7pts everything starts to look better! Tre Mason busting out into triple digit yardage.Safety’s knocking people out of the game week after week.It looked to be a much improved OL Hill had plenty of time and made good decisions and showed toughness when GRob turned Ware loose for a vicious sack fumble he was fortunate the ball bounced right back to him </span></span>

Robinson did have that one screw up but overall he played fantastic and I’ll take him over Jake Long.

I have no complaints with the line today–they gave Hill enough time and were able to run the ball.

This was a true team win.

Yes I agree I was stunned by watching the D take over and dominate the game!The blown coverage on the td would have sent this team into a tail spin in weeks past. Now let’s see if they can win 2 in a row

Hill looked good but when you hold the Denver Broncos to 7pts everything starts to look better! Tre Mason busting out into triple digit yardage.Safety’s knocking people out of the game week after week.It looked to be a much improved OL Hill had plenty of time and made good decisions and showed toughness when GRob turned Ware loose for a vicious sack fumble he was fortunate the ball bounced right back to him