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Eternal RamnationParticipantDak wrote:
All of that said, cheating is still cheating. The Colts were playing by the rules, and they also were trying to get to the Super Bowl.</P>Baltimore was also trying to get to the Super Bowl and only lost by 4… you can’t help but think that those balls most likely weighed 2 lbs PSI less in the 2nd half against the Ravens when the Pats offense got hot.
Exactly , instead of talking about football,talent execution and strategy we’re talking about a team that has already been caught cheating ,cheating again. I’m boycotting the Super Bowl.Think I’ll watch Hawk and Animal in a cage match instead.
Eternal RamnationParticipantI guess I really don’t care what the speculated effects are, it’s a rule for a reason and no team should be above the rules but the Patriots just are. I have zero tolerance for injustice. Is this the NFL or the WWF ?
Eternal RamnationParticipantFines ? Draft picks ? fuck that if they cheated no Super Bowl and no more home games
Eternal RamnationParticipantNot everyone despised Georgia. I didn’t.
Face it Zn , you’re just not a despiser
Eternal RamnationParticipantNever had control , amazing catch though!
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The one thing we do know, however, is that Rams coach Jeff Fisher probably won’t rush into any hire unless he decides to hire from within.Jeff Fisher typically takes his time hiring new assistant coaches.
Fisher takes way too long to actually do anything that’s the problem with him no urgency
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Eternal RamnationParticipantI know a WR that’s 6’2″ has a 6’7″ wing span and 13″ hands
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Eternal RamnationParticipantGreatRamNTheSky wrote:
I think this is kind of like just after the 1998 season and the Rams were about to can Dick Vermeil. They forced him to make changes to his staff and to bring in Martz as the OC. I think Fisher is only fooling himself if he thinks the offense will be any better next season with Schottenheimer. There are at least 4 guys who are OCs that are better than Schottenheimer, and they are available. Trestman, Chudzinski, Mike Shanahan, Mike MartzI would not bet that any of the four would accept an OC job which would say they are not available. And Martz would not at all fit in with the Rams. He has a very large ego problem and cannot get along with anyone. He would not follow orders. I would not like his baggage at all.
I agree Martz wouldn’t fit with these players but painting him as an ego maniac that can’t get along with anyone is simply wrong.If you need an OC to follow orders (which Fisher has stated many times he does not)then don’t hire someone to install their offense and call plays.With the exception of Chudzinski, Cutler is the common thread linking Trestman,Shanahan and Martz.Martz has improved the offense everywhere he’s been and when he leaves the opposite effect can be seen.
Eternal RamnationParticipantI agree with the statement in general but differ on blaming Cook. It was a small window and Hill just doesn’t have that kind of accuracy. Should have hit him in the numbers. I don’t see that as a drop,sure Beckham might have caught it but it was a poorly thrown ball. Did anyone notice how the secondary’s problems coincided with Joyner’s return?
Eternal RamnationParticipantPA Ram wrote:
I don’t know that I’ve ever seen an interception by a lineman when the QB was trying to throw the ball at the ground.How do you miss the turf? Pretty big target.

Yes you haven’t seen that before, but, seem to assume it was the Rams that caused that. That was just a weird heads up play by the DL and you’re right it has basically never happened before.
IMO it was another bad decision by Hill. He drives me nuts one play will be wow nice throw and then you get the 3ft over your head at mach6 from 3yrds on a screen pass that needs to be out front in stride to work and not get you tiny X factor killed.Hill is the anti-clutch. Why ground the ball at all ? , air mail to the sideline a yard past the los,I mean we all know Hill has the ability to throw it high and uncatchable .He started getting hit and he falls apart.
Eternal RamnationParticipantA win would mean 7-9 so technically not momentum but inertia.
Eternal RamnationParticipantWell put RFL I agree. I hate to say it but the strangest thing happened watching the SEA AZ game. I think I’m now a Seahawks fan, I actually enjoyed watching them play in a way I haven’t enjoyed the Rams since 2003 and Fisher in his 3 years has sucked out every last bit of joy from watching the Rams play.
Eternal RamnationParticipantEternal Ramnation wrote:
He needs to take responsibility for his mistakes namely for this undisciplined mess being unprepared to win after 10 days off against a team with less talent. Off the top of my head Mora,Parcells even Martz would own up to his mistakes but not Fisher. No we get stuff like “Well I sure didn’t expect that out of them” Coaches are part of the team but Fisher continually separates himself from any accountability .He’s had 3 years and made millions at this point it is unacceptable to “think” his team is prepared he has to know it.Assuming your explanation of why they lost is the actual explanation…that is, what a veteran coach would see when he goes over film…how do you know what he does behind closed doors? When it counts?
I cannot think of a single coach who has ever spoken in a way you are suggesting he should (assuming, again, that your analysis of what happened is the correct one). You forget–press conferences are not confessionals with angry fans as the inquisitors. They are staged events the coach uses the way he feels he needs to in order to keep the real issues behind closed doors.
And they sure as heck don’t say much until they have reviewed the film.
As angry as we are personally, coaches never act like we are the final judges. I don’t think you can actually BE a coach and think that way.
Unless you can think of examples of coaches who did act that way…that is, that they owe humble self-confession to angry fans after a bad loss before they have even seen the film.
But. No point in arguing. We’re both pizzed off, we just express it differently. So feel free to have your say…we all have that right.
I don’t understand this zn , my analysis ? Did I read the score in the wrong direction? Mora was a perfect example Fisher should be completely embarrassed and I have no respect for him and his endless excuses.At least I could respect Mora for being honest and facing the facts.
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Just listening Fisher’s post game the man is in denial . He’s lost. The D was upset because Beckham said he was going to set a record against the Rams today (which is exactly what he did) Fisher kept saying you can’t do this or that and win.He has to be told he cannot bring that clusterfuck we saw out there today to another game. Coach do your fucking job or go the fuck away.I know we all get into post-loss funks. But name one single coach who ever said what angry fans demanded they say after a loss. The real talk is behind closed doors. You not liking the public version of what he says does not mean he is in denial, it just means you personally are frustrated.
He needs to take responsibility for his mistakes namely for this undisciplined mess being unprepared to win after 10 days off against a team with less talent. Off the top of my head Mora,Parcells even Martz would own up to his mistakes but not Fisher. No we get stuff like “Well I sure didn’t expect that out of them” Coaches are part of the team but Fisher continually separates himself from any accountability .He’s had 3 years and made millions at this point it is unacceptable to “think” his team is prepared he has to know it.
Eternal RamnationParticipantJust listening Fisher’s post game the man is in denial . He’s lost. The D was upset because Beckham said he was going to set a record against the Rams today (which is exactly what he did) Fisher kept saying you can’t do this or that and win.He has to be told he cannot bring that clusterfuck we saw out there today to another game. Coach do your fucking job or go the fuck away.
December 21, 2014 at 9:48 am in reply to: Dick Enberg! I grew up in LA listening to this man call Rams games on the Radio #14344
Eternal RamnationParticipantsdram wrote:
I had the same experience. The only radio we had until I was 12 was the family car radio so I’d sit in my parents 66 BelAire station wagon and listen to the game. They bought me a radio for Christmas when I was 12 and I wore that thing out listening to the Dodgers, Angels, Rams and Lakers in the late sixties and early seventies. Gawd how I loved to listen to Enberg, Vinny, Jerry Dogget, and Chicky Baby.Who was chicky baby? Only heard that phrase once before.
Chick Hearn voice of the LA Lakers for 3338 consecutive games 1965 – 2002.
December 20, 2014 at 5:23 pm in reply to: Dick Enberg! I grew up in LA listening to this man call Rams games on the Radio #14323
Eternal RamnationParticipantVery cool to hear that voice, the one that seemed to say Deacon Jones on every play back when I was 8 or 9yrs old. I grew up in L.A. as well.
Eternal RamnationParticipantMakes me wonder how Quick would have ended up with out injury.
December 17, 2014 at 12:43 am in reply to: How good is Shaun Hill? Hill after the last 5 games #14023
Eternal RamnationParticipantEternal Ramnation wrote:
I don’t know about the numbers but after watching the Washington game Hill was not at all impressive in my view anyway.Looks like the same thing that happened to Davis when he started playing against good Defenses, they have recent film on him now. When he gets rattled he throws way too high and ball security goes to shit. A number of the “good throws” were in reality great plays by Britt and Bailey on poorly thrown balls.Vermeil said backups can have a good game or two but to win consistently you need more talent at the QB position. He also said they should get rid of Long because he gave up the hit that took Bradford out.It is true that the ARz defense got to the Rams OL and that had an effect on Hill. But from what I saw, nothing about it was Davis level. And in fact all that happened there, to me, was that a defense that matches up well with the Rams offense did to Hill what the Rams defense did to Manning this year and Luck last year.
Not that Hill is Luck or Manning, but he is better than that one game. Evidence of that was the way they broke out late in the 4th and drove on ARz, and that included some timely sharp throws from Hill. It wasn’t enough that game, but he did not melt down Davis style.
I agree zn, I did not mean he had a melt down only that he came back to Earth once teams got some film on him. He is a very good backup but , he is definitely a back up
December 16, 2014 at 1:06 am in reply to: How good is Shaun Hill? Hill after the last 5 games #13951
Eternal RamnationParticipantI don’t know about the numbers but after watching the Washington game Hill was not at all impressive in my view anyway.Looks like the same thing that happened to Davis when he started playing against good Defenses, they have recent film on him now. When he gets rattled he throws way too high and ball security goes to shit. A number of the “good throws” were in reality great plays by Britt and Bailey on poorly thrown balls.Vermeil said backups can have a good game or two but to win consistently you need more talent at the QB position. He also said they should get rid of Long because he gave up the hit that took Bradford out.
Eternal RamnationParticipantThat goes way back , remember when the Rams knocked the Vikes Brad Johnson out opening the door for Randall Cunningham and a 15 and 1 season ?
Eternal RamnationParticipant“I thought that our defensive line whipped their offensive line pretty solid,” Arians said. “When they were making tackles behind the line of scrimmage, there was usually an offensive lineman holding onto their legs but somehow those flags never got called.”
“But we were tackling them for losses, so it didn’t matter.”w
vThe guy’s an asshole. The Cards were holding Donald and Quinn throughout the game.Arians has got so many calls his way especially in AZ. How many late hits did Hill take ? Most were blows to the head and a least one at the knees well after the throw.He has nothing to complain about, the Refs have been the Cards MVP’s this season. Reminds me of the Cowboy fans.
Eternal RamnationParticipantI think the Rams should just go OL in the draft ,we need a center and R&F Guards,I like Saffold but he gets hurt a lot. A dominant OL would help more than any rookie QB the Rams can draft.
Eternal RamnationParticipantTo me Hill looked the same tonight as against Wash. No consistency ,one good pass one WTF pass.He reads defenses better than Davis but the erratic accuracy is about the same.
Eternal RamnationParticipantThis team makes me feel stupid every time I watch them,no heart ,no brains the world champions of disappointment. I wish they would retire the name Rams while we can still remember the one good year they had.
Eternal RamnationParticipantYup you guys are right jeez I was still on the 3 division alignment. Still not likely but there is indeed a chance.
Eternal RamnationParticipantI don’t think that is accurate. The Rams needed both Hawks and Cards to lose out and go 9 and 7 so they would win the division on tie-breakers. Wild card Dallas and Philly and vikes own tie breakers over Rams. Their shot was to win division.
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