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January 11, 2017 at 3:32 am in reply to: get rid of the idea that Russian hack stories are about disgruntled dems #63078
Eternal RamnationParticipantAmerican intel has already made clear that among many other things the russians did, yes they hacked the dems (and the republicans too they just didn’t release that info).
They did do the hacking. That’s not all they did.
And this topic has nothing to do with who won the election. It has to do with whether it’s true there was russian involvement in the election in various ways.
And. Yes, there was.
ON TOP OF IT, this is not about dems whining. It goes way beyond that. Anyone who tries to construe it as JUST dems whining is just not engaging with the entire issue and all the info we have.
I see this discussion as Jane Democracy’s corpse is found and this discussion is focused on the small cuts and abrasions on her back.Are they from glass beer bottle glass? whiskey bottle glass ,what store was the glass bought at? Meanwhile there’s a massive hole where her heat used to be , a large and very bloody butcher knife with noticeably stumpy fingerprints on it lays at her side and a trail of bloody footprints leading to a limo headed for an inauguration.
January 9, 2017 at 11:24 am in reply to: get rid of the idea that Russian hack stories are about disgruntled dems #62904Eternal RamnationParticipantI cannot understand why anyone even cares what countries hacked the info that Clinton hacked and stole the primary. Palast was all over Trump’s interstate (30 of them) crosscheck scam that won him the election and CNN.clinton.corp. said nothing instead pushing this bullshit that the Russians did it.
Eternal RamnationParticipant1.This season is over and we don’t have to watch the ugliness anymore
2. A fresh set of eyes and minds could yield a much better team in a word,hope.
3.Easier schedule next season.
4. Goff survived rookie seasonEternal RamnationParticipantHe wasn’t handed anything he earned the job with phenomenal performance. Management knew he would be the #1 HC candidate and locked him up early. You can judge him on hypothetical hind sight, what he should have done but if you ignore what he actually did do it’s fiction.You can judge him a failure because he didn’t win a Super Bowl or 5 in a row but that is and always will be ridiculous to me. Especially when he coached the Rams last winning season 13 long years of losing ago.
Eternal RamnationParticipantMore than a few great offensive coordinators were failures as head coach. Turner, Martz, Linehan, McDaniels etc…
Martz has the highest win percentage of any Rams coach. Ridiculous to put him in a list with Linehan and McDaniels fucking ridiculous.
Eternal RamnationParticipantNowhere to go but up , that had to be the bottom. I didn’t see a team but a bunch of confused individuals.
Eternal RamnationParticipantSeason’s Greeting to all !
Eternal RamnationParticipantI think the melt down and the many problems leading to it had more to do with doing Hard Knocks than anything else . I think the move is overblown. Firstly it’s not like Fisher had to do the logistics and second moving in 2016 is so much easier than it was in the 90’s or 80’s. I moved my wife 12000 miles to a new freaking country while working 12hrs. a day and 8 on Saturday, while raising a teenager. I know it’s stressful and don’t deny it had an effect but the problems I saw this year have been the same year after year and I don’t see it happening because of the move. To me that’s an argument of convenience. What I saw, a fundamental breakdown of coaching not distractions from a move. I believe doing Hard Knocks exposed Fishers
coaching weaknesses to every team the Rams played this year and that is a very large advantage.Eternal RamnationParticipantI guess I don’t care who it is but they must win …a lot!
Eternal RamnationParticipantThanks to Fisher everybody wants to play the Rams.
Eternal RamnationParticipantYes–I don’t get how the heck they coach tackling but it must be to just dive at the opponent’s knees. Terrible.
Yup Jordan had the angle on that big TE but decided to try and hit him down with his back, bring back Roberson at least he could cover. This bunch needs a brain transplant.
Eternal RamnationParticipantAbout what I expected. Thought the OL sucked bad dropped passes stupid penalties and that ref sucked as well. Horrible tackling . This team is comfortable losing and it’s getting worse.
December 14, 2016 at 12:36 pm in reply to: informal poll: how good is this roster for a new HC? #61029Eternal RamnationParticipantIs Williams gone as DC ?
Eternal RamnationParticipantBrian Billick would be interesting.
December 6, 2016 at 3:31 pm in reply to: Army Corps Denies Easement and Blocks the Dakota Access Pipeline #60438Eternal RamnationParticipantDid anybody notice the thousand of vets showing up in Standing Rock right before they decide to shut down the pipeline ? Trump who was the guy saying no one was a stronger supporter of veterans. They shut it down because when they lose the military they lose their power and the vets taking a stand was the first step.
December 5, 2016 at 4:59 am in reply to: Bonsignore: Despite extension Rams/Fisher to divorce & other extension articles #60302Eternal RamnationParticipantYou know, regardless how you feel about Fisher or the extension, this is the worst kind of speculative editorializing masquerading as journalism.
Stuff like this:
The fan base is angry, and with PSL payments coming at some point, there’s no sense in upsetting the paying customers by holding onto a coach they’ve lost all confidence in.
Every word of this quote is factual. There is speculation in the article but the fan base is pissed and the reason for their anger is they have lost all confidence in Fisher. I’m not saying every single Rams fan has but the overwhelming majority has . Management assuming Fisher can’t win would be speculation? After 7 consecutive losing seasons assuming he will suddenly start winning in 2017 would be ludicrous .The trend is definitely pointed down. Quinn has played less than Chris Long has this year. No draft picks in sight a team full of lineman that can’t block a rb that can’t run and receivers that can’t catch. The D is in free fall and call me crazy but I am going to go ahead and assume they lose in 2017 too
Eternal RamnationParticipantThe Rams won a Super Bowl with a back up QB as did the Patriots . Don’t give me reasons my argument isn’t valid don’t argue against my argument state your case why you believe he should get more time and conform to the extremely narrow tolerances you set for the other side.
Eternal RamnationParticipantNot true Raiders won while in LA. St.Louis never won a super bowl without LA Rams on on the roster and The Cards never won one before that
Eternal RamnationParticipant“The players don’t feel comfortable” I’d say when you’re losing like they are you shouldn’t be comfortable and they are especially Fisher. The language ED described fits , I can hear Fisher saying that and Fisher admitted to a conversation. Just sounds like Fisher trying to “coach” him and ED not having it. Now Fisher’s claiming he doesn’t know where it’s coming from, that is some weak shit right there. If you’re gonna make that move you have to own it.
November 27, 2016 at 9:16 pm in reply to: Goff Goes Off! Rookie Throws 3 TDs in First Half | Rams vs. Saints | NFL – Video #59669Eternal RamnationParticipantI agree with ZN . I think they need to develop better hot reads and when they do the blitzing will go way down because he get’s rid of the ball fast
Eternal RamnationParticipantI watched Goff’s press conference and it gives me hope, he wants to win and let everyone know about it. I think the last 3 times we played the Saints we crushed them with some pretty bad teams , I not so surprised they were due.The D was dismal . The squabble between Williams and Fisher might be cracks might be nothing but definitely not something you want to see happening to your team at 4 – 7 especially not when it comes at the hand of another 4-6 team.
Eternal RamnationParticipantOkay. Though that particular piece sounds like a lot of speculation. What’s clear to me is that they had to react to both losing Peterson and much of the starting OL. That’s really the context of this discussion. Saying that, to me, was a clearer thing than just “Bradford dinked and dunked.” The situation is, their OL is a wreck. Any differences between Turner (to whom I have no loyalty) and Zimmer (to whom I have no loyalty) stems from that, it seems to me.
Yes it is speculation I only included it because it predates any of those injuries. We are in agreement on the dink and dunk adjustment. If I’m in Turner’s shoes I would leave as well. To me it looks like they would blame him for the offense and push him out at the end of the season so why stay? Some of that might be my personal feelings toward Zimmer, I just don’t like him for some unknown non football related reason .
Eternal RamnationParticipantActually the story started a lot earlier locally, this wasn’t nearly as sudden or unexpected as the national press has reported. Norv is a classy guy , Zimmer has been a whiny finger pointer in the past. Shurmur pushed to bring in Bradford and because of his familiarity with Bradford called the plays the first two games which was before the OL lost some players, they were thin but now they’re playing people off the street. Here’s an article from January.
Pat Shurmur hire reflects Vikings’ changing dynamics on offense
Jan 24, 2016
Ben Goessling
ESPN Staff WriterMINNEAPOLIS — After the Minnesota Vikings hired Pat Shurmur — a former head coach who has five years of experience as an offensive coordinator — on Saturday night, locking him up before he could talk to the Los Angeles Rams about a possible job as a passing coordinator, coach Mike Zimmer had compiled an offensive staff with three former NFL head coaches and coordinators on it.
And while a league source said Shurmur’s job title has yet to be finalized, it’s probably safe to assume this: Shurmur wasn’t going to end his job search after one stop had Zimmer not pitched him on a plan big enough to get him to put down roots in Minnesota.
http://www.espn.com/blog/minnesota-vikings/post/_/id/17882/pat-shurmur-hire-reflects-vikings-changing-dynamics-on-offenseEternal RamnationParticipantThe vikes wanted Turner to stay on but Shurmur to call plays. Norv said nope see ya.If you watched Thurs. you saw the same dink and dunk play calling that drove some of us nuts when Shurmur was here. Bradford started 16 games that season and has not since.
Eternal RamnationParticipantWe do have some minor disagreements here. I have a way, it seems, of non-plussing guys who admire Martz. On the disagreements, fwiw. Martz went to one superbowl. Vermeil went to the other and at that point Martz was coordinating the team Vermeil built. I was a Martz critic going back to 2000.
That’s what I’m saying, and that is pretty harsh critique taking away Martz contribution to the Super Bowl and giving it to all to Vermeil. Vermeil in ’98 had Bruce, Hakim ,Pace ,Warner ,Little ,Wistrom , Carter, Fletcher, Light, Farr, Nutten ,Gruttadauria ,McLeon ,Lyle , LB Mike Jones, Proehl, Conwell and went nowhere , lost the entire team to the point of revolt and an ultimatum from management . Vermeil without Martz was a horrible coach the first two years worse than Fisher has ever been in his career. He definitely stockpiled the talent but didn’t have a clue what to do with it on offense and over worked the entire team to where they couldn’t compete on Sundays just like he did for his Super Bowl in Philly. To his credit he did adapt to modern football , educating himself , talking to guys that did it better than him, learning and applying that knowledge. He was secure enough not to handcuff Martz and there is no doubt he has a brilliant football mind. I do remember in 99′ people talking about pushing Vermeil out and Giving Martz the job and I didn’t like it thought it was crazy talk but it’s likely a lot of people were more plugged in than me and my 28k dial up modem.Fisher doesn’t appear capable of adapting or changing to me.
Eternal RamnationParticipantMartz inherited a built team and then destroyed it.
Damn I sure wish some young aggressive offensive genius would come and destroy the Rams to 2 Super Bowls 5 trips to the playoffs in six years 3 consecutive seasons over 500 points again.;) Martz is a pipe-dream though too old and health concerns, I doubt he’d take the job.
To be honest I don’t remember the Linehan implosion , I think I just went remote ,lots of bow hunting but I do remember the Spags/Fisher transition and resulting “Is it a rebuild or just a few players debate and your position was the latter . It’s seems like you are extremely hard on Martz , the winningest coach in Rams history as compared to anyone else ?
Eternal RamnationParticipantI think Fisher has lost this team,
That wouldn’t explain their top play on defense.
We’ve seen it when a Rams coach loses a team (Linehan) and we know what it looks like, and I don’t think that’s what we’re seeing.
And it’s not the worst offense in the NFL. It only looks that way if you factor the numbers from the first 2 games into the average. But they improved after the first 2 games, and that’s even accounting for the recent slump. A much more realistic picture takes the 1st 2 games out of the average. When you do that, they’re ranked 22nd. That’s not where we want them to be, but it’s not last.
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I wouldn’t expect it to look like when Linehan lost his team or anyone else it’s a different set of circumstances. To me when Hill plays lights out ball against the Jets , outplaying Gaines and then decides to drive to practice drunk it signals somethings wrong with the team.
I’m not sure if you’re joking about the offense or serious? Why on Earth would you leave 2 games out of an average? If we just count the Tampa game we’re averaging 37 points a game GSOT territory. Of course if you just use the last 3 games , a much more accurate measurement of the current state of the team they are averaging under 10 points a game.Eternal RamnationParticipantI think Fisher has lost this team, they have stopped buying into his system. This is as healthy as they’ve been in a decade and it’s still the worst offense in the NFL. I’m hoping Goff can pull off a miracle save and pull this team together.
Eternal RamnationParticipantNot sure why, I know we won, but it does not feel like it. Anyone else have that feeling.
it’s not easy for West Coast teams to travel back east and win.
“”””Since the start of the 2003 season, West Coast teams have gone just 61-111 (35.5%) against East Coast teams.””””
Unfortunately the Rams are 76 and 131 over that same period so they will find a way to lose regardless.
Eternal RamnationParticipantThat is our 22 starters until Barnes and TA missed plays but damn compared to the rest of the NFL they’re super healthy. Britt looked good Gurley got going somewhat . Defense played well after the 99 yrd drive. TA has bad hands. They seem lost Keenum is inconsistent , he’s gutsy a fighter but he just isn’t that good, Hecker is !The D locked it down in the 2nd half.Cooper ran the route to the sticks!
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