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Eternal RamnationParticipantWhatever leverage he has comes to an end on Aug. 8, the deadline to preserve unrestricted free agent status at the end of the 2018 season or be downgraded to restricted. It’s a position Donald put himself in by holding out during training camp last year and losing an accrued season as a result. If he holds out again, he’d lose all rights to UFA at the end of the season.
And that means:
The Rams would preserve the right to use the franchise tag on him for 2019.
They’d also have the right of first refusal on any deal he agrees to with another team.
Or, in the event of not matching any offer, recoup a first-round pick.
And in a worst-case scenario for Donald, it would also mean potentially playing the 2019 season at roughly $7.4 million should he fail to secure a new deal with the Rams or another team and the Rams simply re-upped him at 110 percent of his 2018 salary.
It only gets worse if he holds out of games before the drop-dead deadline to preserve at least RFA status – the 10th game of the season – as that means absorbing fines and losing weekly paychecks. He’d have to be extraordinarily confident he could convince the Rams to eventually meet his demands to go that route. But really, how realistic is that?So, as you can see, the little leverage Donald has right now is evaporating pretty quickly.
It makes you wonder at what point he realizes he’s running out of cards to play. And how quickly $20 million and change in annual salary and $70 million or so in guarantees begin to look good enough.
Ouch!!!!
Eternal RamnationParticipantI hope that all the Ram players kneel and win every game.
Do you think Trump would invite them if that happened? He is such a turd.
He already killed one pro football league and that was before twitter.
Eternal RamnationParticipantSOME thought that was the buzz. It was bogus. There was some message board panic about that but the reality according to regular observers at the time was that he was fine.
Yeah that make sense I do remember that aspect now that you mention it. Still like what I’m hearing now a lot better.
Eternal RamnationParticipantWasn’t the buzz on Goff last season’s OTA’s that he was struggling throwing pics not looking sharp?Everything I’ve read about this seasons OTAs says he’s sharp even read somewhere he’s “on fire”.
Eternal RamnationParticipantHe’s shown more than Jimmy G has in 4 years but they’ve sure bought into his HOF destiny . Maybe they already wrote the story that Goff’s a bust and they’re just trying to hold out until it’s true. Goff and McVay are a great team. He’s shown growth that’s hard to miss . Remember after the Skins game the knock was he couldn’t read defenses and would lock on to Kupp fast foward to the Hags game when Earl Thomas said in his post game that Goff was getting better and actually moved ET off with his eyes. The ball was there in that game Kupp dropped it Kupp fumbled what would have been a 14-0 lead on the vikes. He killed it in the PA game granted having Gurley makes that a lot easier but imo he sells it better than most. 27 tds to 7 ints there are several QBs rated higher than Goff that weren’t even close in that dept. I think you underestimate Goff at your own peril this year. I don’t remember him throwing perfect 60 yard bombs in last years OTAs.
Eternal RamnationParticipantDidn’t Brockers start out his first season with a foot injury?
Eternal RamnationParticipantZn I think you mean 4/7
Eternal RamnationParticipantLa ram on the cooks trade
“IF you just want a player than can garner attention on deep routes you don’t have to give up a 1st rd pick and $8M per year for it.
Go watch the Jacksonville playoff game where they knocked Cooks out of the game.
Get physical with this smurf and you can take him outta his game.
He’ll hit some deep routes on occasion and that will be it!!
I don’t like this deal at all!!!
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Why have TWO passing teams given up on him already?He’s only 24 and on his third team already, why?
I liked Cooks coming out, but after seeing how you defend him in the NFL he lost value for ME.
With NE as well, because I’m pretty sure I know why they traded him.
Limited tree and ….Soft!
Cooks had a fantastic game against the Jags in the AFC title game. He had 6 catches for 100 yards and then had an additional 2 pi penalties for about 30 yards each.
All together he was targeted 10 times and 8 of those targets resulted in positive results. Including the pi penalties, Cooks accounted for 160 yards in the title game. And that’s against what is supposed to be a talented secondary.
Yeah actually Cooks got knocked out (concussion) in the Superbowl and N.E. doesn’t make it there without him. Cooks is definitely not soft, he’s not a big physical guy like Sammy but he is faster and runs better routes. If you watch him in N.O. he lines up all over the place his tree is extensive, honestly I don’t know what LA is talking about. My guess on why N.E. traded is they lost their LOT, Amendola and traded Jimmy G. A 40 something QB with no LOT, no backup they need to move up in the draft.
Eternal RamnationParticipantI love it! Cooks a 4.3 burner that runs great routes and has great hands as well. I don’t think your getting anywhere close the that level a player at 23 in the draft. Sure it’s only a year but they’re already trying to extend him and with 100 million cap space next year if they like him they probably get it done. If Wade thinks Ebukam and Littleton can do it I trust him.
April 2, 2018 at 12:50 pm in reply to: espn NFC west panel: Do Rams have best overall defense in NFL? #84803Eternal RamnationParticipantThey have a point on both inside and outside LBs but Donald , Brockers and Suh would supplant any of the other teams’ mentioned starters at their positions
Eternal RamnationParticipantGiven OBJ’s most recent problem L.A. would not be a good place for him. The strategy of trading draft picks for proven players discounted for attitude or behavioral problems seemed to work last year but if your turning half your roster over every year the culture your trying to build with all talk of ” family” becomes a soulless corpofamily like the cheatriots. OBJ is an amazing player but he has also been amazingly selfish to the detriment of his team and instead of maturing it seems like he’s regressing with this latest demand of wanting a new contract coming of a season where he barely played.
Eternal RamnationParticipantI believe Joyner was gone without the tag he is thought of very highly around the league. Last season it was night and day when he was in the game . He got hurt in the 9ers game and I think he came back in the London game. So many plays. Of course I like Watkin’s potential as well but I don’t think the Rams could afford him at the tag level. Might just be me but I didn’t like some of the low effort plays, quitting on routes etc.
Eternal RamnationParticipantDonald ,Brockers and Suh would be insane!With the Rams secondary. Well it would be long boring games full of false starts sweeps and stretch runs and punts, lots of punting. Westbrook did great at nose and Brockers really came alive when they slid him to end. I trust Wade to come up with a winner.
Eternal RamnationParticipantOf fucking course they are.
Eternal RamnationParticipantWonder if it means they keep Tavon?
Eternal RamnationParticipantToo much for the Rams. At least he didn’t go to the niners!
March 13, 2018 at 3:25 am in reply to: sammy watkins to stay? … ie. sammy, Rams, market, drama #83933Eternal RamnationParticipantSammy’s a different cat and he likes his current team
Eternal RamnationParticipantMy issue is redzone offense.
Here’s a stat. NFL Team Red Zone Scoring Percentage (TD only) https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/red-zone-scoring-pct
Rams were 17th.
Interestingly, look at who the top 5 were:
Jacksonville
Philadelphia
New England
Green Bay
New OrleansI agree zn that was frustrating. I don’t think it’s as bad as the stats make it look because they had a relatively large number of scoring plays outside the redzone but still it was a noticeable problem in some games.
Eternal RamnationParticipantI think Stephen A. is wrong the trajectory is headed up! McVay’s been calling plays for 4 years so and the I don’t see the league finally catching up now, why would anyone? I’d think the Rams can’t count on having the exceptional team health they had in ’17 every year and that could slow them down but McVay’s staff did as good of job as I’ve ever seen in keeping people fresh and healthy. Goff improved consistently at Cal year after year and definitely started of that way with Rams. Remember after the Skin’s game people were saying he was locked on to a wr and wasn’t reading coverages , not seeing wide open receivers. I remember posting it was a growing pain and the rest of the season proved it to me anyway.
Eternal RamnationParticipantI think Sim’s evaluation is right on. So this is just what the other side says:
Keenum did pretty well with the Rams considering that in 2016 he had no running game. He had no running game because according to McGinnis Gurley was playing hurt (remember he did not practice all summer in 2016) though whether he was playing hurt or not, he was certainly not himself–that was visible in his play. Keenum had a better situation in Minn and that was due to things that are just not under a coach’s control. Either way with CK I saw the same guy in 2017 with the same limitations as before in much better circumstances—the team had not moved (and that was a HUGE factor in 2016), the Vikes could run, they had a veteran OL, he had some weapons. I was a big advocate of CK’s in 2016 and nothing he did in 2017 surprised me.
Foles did with the Eagles what he always does. Some abysmally poor games mixed in with some good ones. That’s just as true of 2017 as it was of 2015. It’s just that the order was reversed. The Eagles coaching staff did a good job with Foles in the superbowl, albeit against a defense that was subpar, but anyone who traded for NF now with the hopes of having a real qb would be bitterly disappointed.
The thing with Joyner? It was a different system that used the safeties differently and Alexander and McDonald fit that nicely. In fact Joyner was on the field more than most strongside LBs because they were in nickel a lot and Joyner was a GREAT nickel. That worked with that defense. Even in 2016 with all the problems they had they were 9th in total defense and 10th against the pass and 9th in yards allowed per passing attempt.
To start with it was not a couple guys it was 12 starters or over half the team’s starters excluding special teams. They did this without a 1st round pick including a stellar 3rd round of a starting WR that is better than any WR Fish drafted in 5 years and JJ @ Safety who I believe is a budding star. The new defensive system , McVay brought Wade in so I gotta give him the credit there and I think there was significant improvement to Joyner’s contribution because of it.In my view Fish did build a good defense but not a good team. I also think Wade’s D will continue to improve. To me the difference in coaching is McVay/Wade adapt to their players strengths and weaknesses. I take Sim’s tweet as defending a good D he was part of and a coach that always seemed to me to be closer to his defensive players than the offense players. Keenum went to a better situation than he left no doubt but I have to ask why was the Rams O a bad situation? The Rams have consistently drafted higher than the vikes over Fisher’s time with the Rams. They lost their starting rb before Keenum ever played for them the C was a rookie and their veteran OL were trades. Wr Diggs was a 5th rounder trade from Atl and Wr Thielin was undrafted. Fisher would be a great DC but don’t let him near your offense.
Eternal RamnationParticipantI do see Sim’s point but it was it was 4 wrs. 2 TEs an OLB + the OT and C 3rd down RB a slot corner allowing Joyner to slide to Safety a CB and a Safety iow Fisher had a great running back and T.A. Foles was the Superbowl mvp and Keenum led the vikings to the NFC championship Goff flourished under Mcvay Keenum flourished under Shurmer and Foles won a Superbowl with about the same number of pieces as McVay added. Hayes is loyal to Fish as is expected but his evaluation is skewed.
Eternal RamnationParticipantThey still have Westbrook’s and Easley with longacre coming off back surgery.
Eternal RamnationParticipantTalib is a press guy . With Joyner and Johnson back there we’re not going to see Talib playing 10 yards off on 3rd and 7. Sam Shields is a question mark for sure but I think this secondary with J.Johnson in his second year is better than last year. We need run stuffin LBs to take this D up to the next level.
Eternal RamnationParticipantYes I sure hope it is a 5th round pick figures ESPN would get it wrong
Eternal RamnationParticipantWell Ag I think that tells us why they let Tree go they need to stop the run since nobody’s throwing on us!
Eternal RamnationParticipantI would be slightly less surprised by a Saffold trade than winged cows flying out of my ass.
Eternal RamnationParticipantKevin Greene. I’m going to miss Quinn but I think it works out better for both him and the Rams anyway. If we end up with Peters Trujo Joyner and Donald run stuffing will be more of a priority
Eternal RamnationParticipantRIP GRITS. He was on the back to LA longer and stronger than anyone. Sad he’s gone but glad he got to realize his dream of the Rams coming home. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ0Dqn4eI5E
Eternal RamnationParticipantfrom Ranking All 32 NFL Starting Quarterbacks From Worst To Best
17. Jared Goff – Los Angeles Rams
2017 stats: 296-for-477 (62.1%), 3,804 passing yards, 28 touchdowns, 7 interceptions
What a difference a year and a new head coach makes. After a dismal rookie season in which everyone was ready to anoint Jared Goff as the biggest bust since JaMarcus Russell, new head coach Sean McVay revamped the offense and has the Rams’ signal caller looking like an entirely new player. In fact, he looks like the player the Rams were expecting when they took him first overall in the 2016 draft. Goff doesn’t have the strongest arm in the league, but his pin-point accuracy and underrated mobility offers Rams fans a reason to be optimistic moving forward.
I remember reading this one and thinking it was ridiculous.First he put Jimmy G. at 14 and mentioned nothing about his inability to throw anything past 20yds on target. Goff has a very strong arm, the bomb to Watkins(@NYG) went 65 yards in the air and was the longest pass in the league that year at the time.
Eternal RamnationParticipantToo many to quote but I disagree that Trump is clearly worse than Hillary would have been. I don’t think we’ll ever know but don’t forget she was for a no fly zone in Syria and Russia said if she was elected it was war. Don’t get me wrong Trump is worse than I imagined but Hillary is no garden variety dem , she’s a genius level Dr.Evil lawyer and had she got all that power there’d be no stopping her.Trump has exposed his newly adopted party for what it is. I am on rooting for the tipping point. No more business as usual . Something good could come out of it, meaningful change.
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