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ParticipantDonald ,Brockers and Suh would be insane!With the Rams secondary. Well it would be long boring games full of false starts sweeps and stretch runs and punts, lots of punting. Westbrook did great at nose and Brockers really came alive when they slid him to end. I trust Wade to come up with a winner.
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ParticipantOf fucking course they are.
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ParticipantWonder if it means they keep Tavon?
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ParticipantToo much for the Rams. At least he didn’t go to the niners!
March 13, 2018 at 3:25 am in reply to: sammy watkins to stay? … ie. sammy, Rams, market, drama #83933Eternal Ramnation
ParticipantSammy’s a different cat and he likes his current team
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ParticipantMy issue is redzone offense.
Here’s a stat. NFL Team Red Zone Scoring Percentage (TD only) https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/red-zone-scoring-pct
Rams were 17th.
Interestingly, look at who the top 5 were:
Jacksonville
Philadelphia
New England
Green Bay
New OrleansI agree zn that was frustrating. I don’t think it’s as bad as the stats make it look because they had a relatively large number of scoring plays outside the redzone but still it was a noticeable problem in some games.
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ParticipantI think Stephen A. is wrong the trajectory is headed up! McVay’s been calling plays for 4 years so and the I don’t see the league finally catching up now, why would anyone? I’d think the Rams can’t count on having the exceptional team health they had in ’17 every year and that could slow them down but McVay’s staff did as good of job as I’ve ever seen in keeping people fresh and healthy. Goff improved consistently at Cal year after year and definitely started of that way with Rams. Remember after the Skin’s game people were saying he was locked on to a wr and wasn’t reading coverages , not seeing wide open receivers. I remember posting it was a growing pain and the rest of the season proved it to me anyway.
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ParticipantI think Sim’s evaluation is right on. So this is just what the other side says:
Keenum did pretty well with the Rams considering that in 2016 he had no running game. He had no running game because according to McGinnis Gurley was playing hurt (remember he did not practice all summer in 2016) though whether he was playing hurt or not, he was certainly not himself–that was visible in his play. Keenum had a better situation in Minn and that was due to things that are just not under a coach’s control. Either way with CK I saw the same guy in 2017 with the same limitations as before in much better circumstances—the team had not moved (and that was a HUGE factor in 2016), the Vikes could run, they had a veteran OL, he had some weapons. I was a big advocate of CK’s in 2016 and nothing he did in 2017 surprised me.
Foles did with the Eagles what he always does. Some abysmally poor games mixed in with some good ones. That’s just as true of 2017 as it was of 2015. It’s just that the order was reversed. The Eagles coaching staff did a good job with Foles in the superbowl, albeit against a defense that was subpar, but anyone who traded for NF now with the hopes of having a real qb would be bitterly disappointed.
The thing with Joyner? It was a different system that used the safeties differently and Alexander and McDonald fit that nicely. In fact Joyner was on the field more than most strongside LBs because they were in nickel a lot and Joyner was a GREAT nickel. That worked with that defense. Even in 2016 with all the problems they had they were 9th in total defense and 10th against the pass and 9th in yards allowed per passing attempt.
To start with it was not a couple guys it was 12 starters or over half the team’s starters excluding special teams. They did this without a 1st round pick including a stellar 3rd round of a starting WR that is better than any WR Fish drafted in 5 years and JJ @ Safety who I believe is a budding star. The new defensive system , McVay brought Wade in so I gotta give him the credit there and I think there was significant improvement to Joyner’s contribution because of it.In my view Fish did build a good defense but not a good team. I also think Wade’s D will continue to improve. To me the difference in coaching is McVay/Wade adapt to their players strengths and weaknesses. I take Sim’s tweet as defending a good D he was part of and a coach that always seemed to me to be closer to his defensive players than the offense players. Keenum went to a better situation than he left no doubt but I have to ask why was the Rams O a bad situation? The Rams have consistently drafted higher than the vikes over Fisher’s time with the Rams. They lost their starting rb before Keenum ever played for them the C was a rookie and their veteran OL were trades. Wr Diggs was a 5th rounder trade from Atl and Wr Thielin was undrafted. Fisher would be a great DC but don’t let him near your offense.
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ParticipantI do see Sim’s point but it was it was 4 wrs. 2 TEs an OLB + the OT and C 3rd down RB a slot corner allowing Joyner to slide to Safety a CB and a Safety iow Fisher had a great running back and T.A. Foles was the Superbowl mvp and Keenum led the vikings to the NFC championship Goff flourished under Mcvay Keenum flourished under Shurmer and Foles won a Superbowl with about the same number of pieces as McVay added. Hayes is loyal to Fish as is expected but his evaluation is skewed.
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ParticipantThey still have Westbrook’s and Easley with longacre coming off back surgery.
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ParticipantTalib is a press guy . With Joyner and Johnson back there we’re not going to see Talib playing 10 yards off on 3rd and 7. Sam Shields is a question mark for sure but I think this secondary with J.Johnson in his second year is better than last year. We need run stuffin LBs to take this D up to the next level.
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ParticipantYes I sure hope it is a 5th round pick figures ESPN would get it wrong
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ParticipantWell Ag I think that tells us why they let Tree go they need to stop the run since nobody’s throwing on us!
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ParticipantI would be slightly less surprised by a Saffold trade than winged cows flying out of my ass.
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ParticipantKevin Greene. I’m going to miss Quinn but I think it works out better for both him and the Rams anyway. If we end up with Peters Trujo Joyner and Donald run stuffing will be more of a priority
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ParticipantRIP GRITS. He was on the back to LA longer and stronger than anyone. Sad he’s gone but glad he got to realize his dream of the Rams coming home. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ0Dqn4eI5E
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Participantfrom Ranking All 32 NFL Starting Quarterbacks From Worst To Best
17. Jared Goff – Los Angeles Rams
2017 stats: 296-for-477 (62.1%), 3,804 passing yards, 28 touchdowns, 7 interceptions
What a difference a year and a new head coach makes. After a dismal rookie season in which everyone was ready to anoint Jared Goff as the biggest bust since JaMarcus Russell, new head coach Sean McVay revamped the offense and has the Rams’ signal caller looking like an entirely new player. In fact, he looks like the player the Rams were expecting when they took him first overall in the 2016 draft. Goff doesn’t have the strongest arm in the league, but his pin-point accuracy and underrated mobility offers Rams fans a reason to be optimistic moving forward.
I remember reading this one and thinking it was ridiculous.First he put Jimmy G. at 14 and mentioned nothing about his inability to throw anything past 20yds on target. Goff has a very strong arm, the bomb to Watkins(@NYG) went 65 yards in the air and was the longest pass in the league that year at the time.
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ParticipantToo many to quote but I disagree that Trump is clearly worse than Hillary would have been. I don’t think we’ll ever know but don’t forget she was for a no fly zone in Syria and Russia said if she was elected it was war. Don’t get me wrong Trump is worse than I imagined but Hillary is no garden variety dem , she’s a genius level Dr.Evil lawyer and had she got all that power there’d be no stopping her.Trump has exposed his newly adopted party for what it is. I am on rooting for the tipping point. No more business as usual . Something good could come out of it, meaningful change.
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ParticipantTone deaf corpocrit that always says the wrong thing and what Zooey says she’s a Republicrit.
February 24, 2018 at 9:42 pm in reply to: Schefter: “Rams finalizing trade with Chiefs for CB Marcus Peters #83130Eternal Ramnation
ParticipantI can imagine a now bored McVay pouring all that creative energy into trade/draft strategy pestering Snead night and day. After last season Quinn , Joyner, Watkins and even Donald will be less about the money imo. Maybe I didn’t put that right but I just don’t see these guys that have been great players on mediocre teams for half a dozen years in a big hurry to leave the current situation which I believe is on a Superbowl trajectory.
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ParticipantGlad you’re home ag and a Huddle home too!
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ParticipantImagine if he didn’t get hurt at the end of the vikes game.
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ParticipantI love ARs. Before they were Called M4s they were called M16s, same basic platform.They are a rush to shoot. I will hate to see them go but get rid of them. I don’t need one as much as I like them their only real purpose is to kill lots of humans quickly. This won’t end the problem but it will help. Through out the 80’s you could by the original Colt AR15 at hardware stores and no one was murdering children with them back then.
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ParticipantBilly keep fighting the good fight! On the memo I’ve seen Nunes has his own fake news site. The other night I watched a Russia-gate special on CNN something I rarely do. They laid it all out linearly and when you add it all up there’s just too much there to deny. HRC shares some blame too because there is an awful lot of dirt on her to be dug but still it’s not like they both can’t be dishonest. The FISA Court judges are conservative Republican appointees the FBI was before Trump, Republican heavy and now it’s even more so. Those “bombshell tweets” were before the HRC case was re-opened IOW the potus wanted to know everything about the Russian meddling investigation not HRC’s emails.
January 31, 2018 at 5:43 am in reply to: Spags on Patz cheating in Phil/NE superbowl…expanded: Martz on did Patz cheat #80601Eternal Ramnation
ParticipantThe signals did them zero good without knowing which play they were signaling . And yes they are known for cheating year after year. Once a cheater always a cheater. The aggravating part is they’re so good they don’t need to, Brady is GOAT and so is Belichick . If the spygate tapes were really nothing at all there would be no reason to destroy them. You destroy them for damage control.
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ParticipantBritt to Woods , what’s his name to Sully at C , June Henley to Marshal Faulk
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ParticipantEagles have more Rams than Vikings . Must be it.
January 17, 2018 at 2:12 am in reply to: off-season…who goes, who stays, what positions should be drafted #80297Eternal Ramnation
ParticipantThey gave up their 2nd round pick for Watkins so letting him go would hurt but he doesn’t seem like a #1 anymore . He had some horrible drops and he doesn’t look any faster than Woods to me but with a full off season program and camp. Who knows? Glad it ain’t my decision .
January 11, 2018 at 11:35 pm in reply to: who do you take in this weekend's divisional playoff games? Gonna watch any? #80177Eternal Ramnation
ParticipantI’ll watch them all! Playoff football. I think the vikes are being underestimated, that D is damn good. Steelers vs. Jags will be interesting , Titans and Cheatriots meh..If they let the Falcons hold like they did against the Rams it’s over for the Eagles.
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ParticipantBlyth was also impressive when he had to come in for Sullivan. That we actually got the pro-bowl version of Sully was surprising to me I didn’t think he had that much left. It feels good to be wrong. Havenstein and Brown improved a lot this year. I guess you’d have to say Havenstein is the weak link but that’s a pretty good “weak link ” to have. Need to develop an LT while Whit can still help him and Saffold is no Spring chicken either. I don’t know why I worry about this stuff when McVay is already.
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