TackleDummy wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Agamemnon wrote:</div>
I thought that once you added a guy from the practice squad to the regular roster you had to keep him for a certain number of games. Obviously I have that confused with some other rule.

The rule is, I believe, that you have to pay him for a minimum of 3 games. But you don’t have to keep him on the roster for 3 games.

Conrath was cut to make room for Bailey. Bailey is needed because T. Austin will miss a couple of games.

tx

snowman wrote:

Who hit Evans hard enough to force a 10-second runoff and prevent the FG attempt? That man deserves a beer.

McDonald, he played well today.

http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/print?id=11632

Saturday, September 13, 2014
Robert Quinn’s deal good for both sides
By Nick Wagoner

TAMPA, Fla. — Throughout the offseason and into training camp, the St. Louis Rams seemed to be in no hurry to sign defensive end Robert Quinn to a contract extension.

There were no hard deadlines to meet and Quinn was going to remain under team control for at least the next two seasons no matter what.

A lack of urgency might have been the exact reason the two sides were able to come to terms on a new six-year contract Saturday afternoon, a deal that will keep Quinn in St. Louis through the 2019 season.

Robert Quinn
The Rams and Robert Quinn, who had 19 sacks last season, agreed to a four-year contract extension.
Without having to worry about holdouts or franchise tags, the Rams and Quinn’s representatives were able work toward a resolution that would allow the team to keep its best player in St. Louis.

Upon reaching an agreement Saturday, the deal looks to be a good one for both sides. ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter reported it’s worth a total of $66.575 million with $41.2 million guaranteed.

It’s important to note that the deal makes Quinn a Ram through the 2019 season, which means it includes the next two seasons as well. The distinction means the Rams could have a relative bargain on their hands should Quinn continue to ascend as one of the best pass-rushers in the league.

Assuming the numbers are correct, an annual average of about $11 million would be an absolute bargain for Quinn, considering he ranks second only to Houston’s J.J. Watt in sacks with 29.5 since 2012.

After Watt agreed to a six-year, $100 million deal with

$51.8 million guaranteedTotal Value: $100,000,000 (avg. $16,666,667/year; $20,876,385 fully guaranteed)According to ‘over the cap’ 51.8 million is a nail that needs hammering. 😉 Unless, of course Quinn’s 41m is fully guaranteed.

making him the highest paid defensive player in the league on Sept. 2, it was only logical Quinn would be next in line.

What wasn’t clear was how fast the Rams would put a deal together. On one hand, Watt’s deal offered a baseline for Quinn’s, but on the other, Quinn doesn’t have Watt’s lengthy track record of success.

Getting a deal done now allows the Rams to sign Quinn for a number below what Watt received from the Texans, but offers a relative bargain should he continue to perform as he did in 2013 when he posted 19 sacks and seven forced fumbles on his way to first team All-Pro honors.

Had the Rams waited until after the season, they might have faced a price tag closer to Watt’s if Quinn duplicates his 2013 success. In signing Quinn now, the Rams struck a good balance between paying him what he is currently worth, what he could be worth in the future and protecting themselves on the off chance he doesn’t continue at his current trajectory.

For his part, Quinn landed a nice deal with a strong guarantee. That $41.2 million is really the only number that matters here, and it represents a smart play on his part, taking what he can get rather than worrying about it later should he suffer an injury or have a down season.

Put simply, Quinn is the Rams’ only blue-chip talent and they were wise to get a deal done.

Only time will tell whether this is the rare deal that works well for both sides, and we still need to see the exact breakdown of the financials, but at first blush, it certainly looks like a win-win.

SLIDE SHOW: 40 IMAGES:

Through the Years: Robert Quinn
http://www.stlouisrams.com/photos/photo-gallery/Through-the-Years-Robert-Quinn/496d8308-4b58-4289-933b-11e0268dc19e

• This reply was modified 10 years, 3 months ago by Agamemnon.

zn wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:

zn wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:
>Watt is only guaranteed ~20m and there is a some fluff at the end. They also chose to take a big hit in 2015 and they can cut him after 2015. I am sure Quinn isn’t cutable until 2016. imo

Yeah I discussed those things about that contract in a different thread. I even pointed out that if you subtract the 17.5 in the final phoney year, it still avgs. 13.7 M or so.

I did say that probably what Quinn wanted was the guaranteed money upfront.

But even given that, an 11 M annual avg. is surprising. That’s an interesting trade-off. More guaranteed upfront for a lower annual avg.

As invader already pointed out in a different thread, that makes Quinn a very interesting player. He didn’t care about the showboat “total contract” comparison with other players, and opted instead for the upfront money.

>It is the more the real money vs fluff. Annual salary is in someways meaningless.

Ag we;re not really disagreeing.

Part of my point was that it’s fluff v. real money.

What surprises is me is that a player knows that and acts accordingly.

Watt for example didn’t act like he knew that.

In fact Watt is the norm.

This is the discussion from before, which parallels this one:

http://theramshuddle.com/topic/rams-and-quinn-close-to-contract-extension/

zn wrote:
one advantage the Rams have, besides guys wanting to play for Fisher (and in RQ’s case, Waufle too), is that they frontload–guys REALLY ARE getting that money, upfront.

InvaderRam wrote:
i’m sure robert realizes this. instead of going for the headline “record contract”.

zn wrote:
I think you’re right that RQ wants the real money upfront, and I would be surprised if it had a trick money backloaded final year the way Watts deal does.

We are nailing down details.

zn wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:
>Watt is only guaranteed ~20m and there is a some fluff at the end. They also chose to take a big hit in 2015 and they can cut him after 2015. I am sure Quinn isn’t cutable until 2016. imo

Yeah I discussed those things about that contract in a different thread. I even pointed out that if you subtract the 17.5 in the final phoney year, it still avgs. 13.7 M or so.

I did say that probably what Quinn wanted was the guaranteed money upfront.

But even given that, an 11 M annual avg. is surprising. That’s an interesting trade-off. More guaranteed upfront for a lower annual avg.

As invader already pointed out in a different thread, that makes Quinn a very interesting player. He didn’t care about the showboat “total contract” comparison with other players, and opted instead for the upfront money.

It is the more the real money vs fluff. Annual salary is in someways meaningless.