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    Apparently, Chomsky and his wife had some sort of relationship with Jeffrey Epstein.

    I never know how much is CIA influenced smear/spin stuff, and what is real. Its the capitalist-end-times-dystopian-matrix after all.

    https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article312933902.html

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    short critique of Ken Burn’s American Revolution.

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    short critique of Ken Burn’s American Revolution.

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    whiteness

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    Richie Incognito news.

    “In an interview with Bleacher Report that ran ahead of the 2016 election, Incognito explained why he was voting for Trump. “I think that he can help this nation get back to a world superpower. Where I think he could help is putting us first again and having that — it’s my mentality, too — having that tough attitude where you put America first and everyone’s thinking we’re the greatest nation in the world … That toughness is where I identify with him,” he related…”

    Read More: https://www.nickiswift.com/1771072/current-former-nfl-athletes-who-support-donald-trump/
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    I never really thought of this before, but Incognito and Trump do seem quite similar in a lot of ways.

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    https://jacobin.com/2024/12/rockefeller-christmas-tree-working-class?fbclid=IwY2xjawO6L1BleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFVUXRzdGcyWlVjS0xYRzk4c3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHnMzEMmUIxaUw4P_XJmZQ2E7rJ6YAI3fyd3SNA4RdmEmhW37stLzwgQ2QldF_aem_mWcEE_zYCGxdtcngtMaHqA
    The Rockefeller Christmas Tree Belongs to the Working Class

    Construction workers pooled their wages to erect the first Rockefeller Center Christmas tree in 1931, bringing holiday cheer to themselves on the job site. Their billionaire bosses co-opted the gesture, transforming it into today’s consumer spectacle….

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    (Vietnam days) “…there was a sense of resistance then and a belief in the possibility of stopping it. That seems less available now..”

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    That seems less available now..”

    The US imperialist types learned their lesson.

    No draft. All volunteer military. Drafts drive up dissent. When you have skin the game, you look closer at the game.

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    There are 6 million 6 hundred and 6 reasons why the USA has become the Ecocidal Death Machine it has become. Big reasons and medium reasons and small reasons. One of the Big-Reasons is the evolution of corporate-capitalist-propaganda in all its pervasive forms, whether reflected in movies, ‘education,’ books, blogs, institutions, tv-shows, advertisements, whatever.

    I discovered one of those examples of propaganda the other day when i watched a show I didnt know much about: Landman. With Billy-Bob Thornton. I watched it, because I liked Billy-Bob Thornton. I dont like him anymore. I dont like Demi Moore anymore either. She’s in it. I dont like anyone who would be in this thing.

    If you’ve never heard of it, its a popular series about the Oil Bizness. Set in Texas. Jerry Jones even did a scene in it. The show has speech after speech after speech explaining how their is no alternative to the oil-based economy, and how alternative energies are supported by Russia, and the Oil Industry is what makes America great, and the big Oil Billionaires are very concerned about their workers, and climate change is a hoax, and fracking is actually good, and — get this — the Oil Industry is actually battling the Cartels and terrorists and making America safe for democracy.

    I swear, this show is just like watching Fox News. Even the actresses on the show look like Fox News hosts.

    The acting is good, the dialogue is snappy, its very slick and entertaining.

    We are all doomed. And thats a good thing.

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    Atomic tourism in Vegas

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    “Miss Atomic Bomb”

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    There are 6 million 6 hundred and 6 reasons why the USA has become the Ecocidal Death Machine it has become. Big reasons and medium reasons and small reasons. One of the Big-Reasons is the evolution of corporate-capitalist-propaganda in all its pervasive forms, whether reflected in movies, ‘education,’ books, blogs, institutions, tv-shows, advertisements, whatever.

    I discovered one of those examples of propaganda the other day when i watched a show I didnt know much about: Landman. With Billy-Bob Thornton. I watched it, because I liked Billy-Bob Thornton. I dont like him anymore. I dont like Demi Moore anymore either. She’s in it. I dont like anyone who would be in this thing.

    If you’ve never heard of it, its a popular series about the Oil Bizness. Set in Texas. Jerry Jones even did a scene in it. The show has speech after speech after speech explaining how their is no alternative to the oil-based economy, and how alternative energies are supported by Russia, and the Oil Industry is what makes America great, and the big Oil Billionaires are very concerned about their workers, and climate change is a hoax, and fracking is actually good, and — get this — the Oil Industry is actually battling the Cartels and terrorists and making America safe for democracy.

    I swear, this show is just like watching Fox News. Even the actresses on the show look like Fox News hosts.

    The acting is good, the dialogue is snappy, its very slick and entertaining.

    We are all doomed. And thats a good thing.

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    I agree with much of that about the show but would quibble in a few areas.

    The billionaires in the show do not come across as caring about their employees. They care about their money and making more.

    The oil industry is not fighting the cartels, at least in the first season, it’s all about turning a blind eye so each can do their own business until their is a falling out and even then, a desire to go back to live and let live.

    There is a small nod to eventually needing to come up with something else with a giant dose of until then this is the bull we have to ride.

    People who like this show, imo, are also likely to like Yellowstone and Tulsa king.

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    I agree with much of that about the show but would quibble in a few areas.

    The billionaires in the show do not come across as caring about their employees. They care about their money and making more.

    The oil industry is not fighting the cartels, at least in the first season, it’s all about turning a blind eye so each can do their own business until their is a falling out and even then, a desire to go back to live and let live.

    There is a small nod to eventually needing to come up with something else with a giant dose of until then this is the bull we have to ride.

    People who like this show, imo, are also likely to like Yellowstone and Tulsa king.

    Yeah, thats fair.

    But i still think its fair to say “the oil company is battling the drug cartel” in that first season (the only season i watched). They battle when they are not co-existing in a tense-truce type situation.

    And that ‘positioning’ of Big Oil vs Drug-Cartel end up creating this weird psychological space in the viewer’s head where instead of, like, the FBI vs Criminals, you get Big Oil vs Criminals.
    It creates a subtle condition where Big Oil is the ‘hero’ saving us from the bad-guys. Its subtle but its there under the surface.

    Just my take.

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    Note: Noam Chomsky’s friendship with Jeffrey Epstein has become the source of controversy. After suffering a severe stroke in June 2023, Chomsky is unable to comment on it. His wife Valeria has responded to questions surrounding their contacts with Epstein in the statement below. I am publishing it here, with minor typographical corrections.
    Statement from Valéria Chomsky
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    As many are aware, my husband, Noam Chomsky, now 97, is confronting significant health challenges after suffering a devastating stroke in June 2023. Currently, Noam is under 24/7 medical care and is completely unable to speak or engage in public discourse.
    Since this health crisis, I have been entirely absorbed in Noam’s treatment and recovery, solely responsible for him and his medical treatment. Noam and I don’t have any kind of public relations assistance. For this reason, only now have I been able to address the matter of our contacts with Jeffrey Epstein.
    Noam and I have felt a profound weight regarding the unresolved questions surrounding our past interactions with Epstein. We do not wish to leave this chapter shrouded in ambiguity.
    Throughout his life, Noam has insisted that intellectuals have a responsibility to speak the truth and expose lies — especially when those truths are uncomfortable to themselves.
    As is widely known, one of Noam’s characteristics is to believe in the good faith of people. Noam’s overly trust[ing] nature, in this specific case, led to severe poor judgment on both our parts.
    Questions have rightly been raised about Noam’s meetings with Epstein, and about administrative assistance his office provided regarding a private financial matter—one that had absolutely no relation to any of Epstein’s criminal conduct.
    Noam and I were introduced to Epstein at the same time, during one of Noam’s professional events in 2015, when Epstein’s 2008 conviction in the State of Florida was known by very few people, while most of the public – including Noam and I – was unaware of it. That only changed after the November 2018 report by Miami Herald.
    When we were introduced to Epstein, he presented himself as a philanthropist of science and a financial expert. By presenting himself this way, Epstein gained Noam’s attention, and they began corresponding. Unknowingly, we opened a door to a Trojan horse.
    Epstein began to encircle Noam, sending gifts and creating opportunities for interesting discussions in areas Noam has been working on extensively. We regret that we did not perceive this as a strategy to ensnare us and to try to undermine the causes Noam stands for.
    We had lunch, at Epstein’s ranch, once, in connection with a professional event; we attended dinners at his townhouse in Manhattan and stayed a few times in an apartment he offered when we visited New York City. We also visited Epstein’s Paris apartment one afternoon for the occasion of a work trip. In all cases, these visits were related to Noam’s professional commitments. We never went to his island or knew about anything that happened there.
    We attended social meetings, lunches, and dinners where Epstein was present and academic matters were discussed. We never witnessed any inappropriate, criminal, or reproachable behavior from Epstein or others. At no time did we see children or underage individuals present.
    Epstein proposed meetings between Noam and figures that Noam had interest in, due to their different perspectives on themes related to Noam’s work and thought. It was in this academic context that Noam wrote a letter of recommendation.
    Noam’s email to Epstein, in which Epstein sought advice about the press, should be read in context. Epstein had claimed to Noam that he [Epstein] was being unfairly persecuted, and Noam spoke from his own experience in political controversies with the media. Epstein created a manipulative narrative about his case, which Noam, in good faith, believed in. It is now clear that it was all orchestrated, having as, at least, one of Epstein’s intentions to try to have someone like Noam repairing Epstein’s reputation by association.
    Noam’s criticism was never directed at the women’s movement; on the contrary, he has always supported gender equity and women’s rights. What happened was that Epstein took advantage of Noam’s public criticism towards what came to be known as “cancel culture” to present himself as a victim of it.
    Only after Epstein’s second arrest in [July] 2019 did we learn the full extent and gravity of what were then accusations—and are now confirmed—heinous crimes against women and children. We were careless in not thoroughly researching his background. This was a grave mistake, and for that lapse in judgment, I apologize on behalf of both of us. Noam shared with me, before his stroke, that he felt the same way.
    In 2023, Noam’s initial public response to inquiries about Epstein failed to adequately acknowledge the gravity of Epstein’s crimes and the enduring pain of his victims, primarily because Noam took it as obvious that he condemned such crimes. However, a firm and explicit stance on such matters is always required.
    It was deeply disturbing for both of us to realize we had engaged with someone who presented as a helpful friend but led a hidden life of criminal, inhumane, and perverted acts.
    Since the revelation of the extent of his crimes, we have been shocked.
    In order to clarify the check: Epstein asked Noam to develop a linguistic challenge that Epstein wished to establish as a regular prize. Noam worked on it, and Epstein sent a check for US$20,000 as payment. Epstein’s office contacted me to arrange for the check to be sent to our home address.
    Regarding the reported transfer of approximately $270,000, I must clarify that these were entirely Noam’s own funds. At the time, Noam had identified inconsistencies in his retirement resources that threatened his economic independence and caused him great distress. Epstein offered technical assistance to resolve this specific situation.
    On this matter, Epstein acted accordingly, recovering the funds for Noam, in a display of help and very likely as part of a machination to gain greater access to Noam. Epstein acted solely as a financial advisor for this specific matter. To the best of my knowledge, Epstein never had access to our bank or investment accounts.
    It is also important to clarify that Noam and I never had any investments with Epstein or his office—individually or as a couple.
    I hope this retrospectively clarifies and explains Noam Chomsky’s interactions with Epstein. Noam and I recognize the gravity of Jeffrey Epstein’s crimes and the profound suffering of his victims. Nothing in this statement is intended to minimize that suffering, and we express our unrestricted solidarity with the victims.
    February 7, 2026.
    Valéria Chomsky

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    …I hope this retrospectively clarifies and explains Noam Chomsky’s interactions with Epstein. Noam and I recognize the gravity of Jeffrey Epstein’s crimes and the profound suffering of his victims. Nothing in this statement is intended to minimize that suffering, and we express our unrestricted solidarity with the victims.
    February 7, 2026.
    Valéria Chomsky

    Yeah, ive been following the story.

    I have many feelings about it. One particular feeling is in ‘infuriates’ me that Noam and Valeria did this shit — palld around with billionaires — because it has allowed the CIA and Mossad and the usual propagandists to have some wonderful dirt on Chomsky and thereby steer untold numbers of young people away from his writings. His writings, of course, are solid — but this shit has and will tarnish him so badly that a lot of youngsters wont read him now. He’s cancelled, so his IDEAS get cancelled.

    The older folks, who were influenced by him long ago, still find his writings as important as ever.

    I thought he was kinda changing a bit as he got himself a new wife and moved into old age.

    I have a book laying around here on Epstein. I aim to read it this year. Just curious about the guy.

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    #162158
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    Chris Hedges on the Chomsky/Epstein thing.

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    Yeah, Hedges if probably right about that. It’s impossible for me to imagine Chomsky availing himself of Epstein’s services, but easier to imagine that Chomsky fell to the temptation to ignore warning signs about Epstein in order to pursue mutually-beneficial professional interests.

    This showed up in my FB feed last night, and I thought the choice of photo to illustrate the point was interesting.

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    I noticed this right off, because it was so predictable — The coverage of Epstein is always about the Pedophile stuff — its rarely about the money-power stuff. The legendary-Whitney-Webb touches on that here:

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    Never heard of Whitney Webb.

    Seems like a candidate for her car mysteriously exploding in the middle of a street in Malta.

    #162234
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    Never heard of Whitney Webb.

    Seems like a candidate for her car mysteriously exploding in the middle of a street in Malta.

    Yeah, I’ve been listening to her for a couple of years. She is possibly the last living American journalist 🙂

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfr3NXiUmdE&t=384s

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    Death of Jesse Jackson.

    “I dont root for the team, but that was one helluva play”

    #162266
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    Adolph Reed is in a long podcast on this site. Here’s a snippet of that. He basically sez, Jesse was all about Jesse. He contrasts that with Bernie. Fwiw:

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    Black history month Nikes.

    #162334
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    Never heard of Whitney Webb.

    Seems like a candidate for her car mysteriously exploding in the middle of a street in Malta.

    And those videos are now gone. The Account has vanished.

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