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    #127592
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    This is an older podcast from 1/27 which assumes Stafford is going to the 9ers.

    1-27 Greg Cosell recaps Conference Championships, breaks down Matt Stafford

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    Greg Cosell, Senior #NFL Films Producer and #ESPN NFL Match-up analyst joined the guys and broke down the AFC and NFC title games and talked about Matt Stafford and what he can bring to an offense

    Start at 19:50

    audio link: https://omny.fm/shows/tolbert-krueger-brooks-podcast/1-27-greg-cosell-recaps-conference-championships-b

    #127594
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    I read an article years ago about a young
    Roman Gabriel, who had such a gun that he would throw 50 yard bullets.
    Not bombs, but bullets. 50 yards. And he had to be coached out of that.

    Stafford’s arm is just ridiculous. I hope these Ram WRs and Tight Ends and RBs can hang on to his passes, cause its gonna be an adjustment.

    I’m already excited about next year. As a fan, i havent been
    this excited about a ram season in a while. And i know
    the whole thing may blow up. The Oline may implode, the defense
    might regress, etc. I know this isnt the 99 Rams we are gonna see.

    But I’m excited to see this QB.

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    I’m excited to see this QB.

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    The more I read, the more I like.

    I’m looking forward to it, too. When does camp start, anyway? I miss football. It would be great if there was some football to look forward to. I’d be interested in watching almost anybody play right now.

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    I’m not sold on Stafford. I hope he proves me wrong.

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    QB Matthew Stafford has been one of the most efficient passers on play action over the last two seasons.

    Since 2019, Stafford has generated the 2nd-most EPA on play action (+84.7) despite using play action at a below-average rate (23.5% of dropbacks).

    Imagine how effective he could be if he had a running game.

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    QB Matthew Stafford has been one of the most efficient passers on play action over the last two seasons.

    Since 2019, Stafford has generated the 2nd-most EPA on play action (+84.7) despite using play action at a below-average rate (23.5% of dropbacks).

    Imagine how effective he could be if he had a running game.

    this should be real interesting.

    we always talk about how much a system makes a player. and how much the player makes the system.

    nature vs nurture even.

    the story is this is a super talented qb. not just physically. but mentally he’s got what you want in a pro qb as well. he’s just been stuck in a crappy situation.

    how does he do when he’s got all that support around him? not just players but a system that should maximize his talents.

    i’m interested to see how it goes.

    by the way. steve young is of the opinion that stafford is a generational type player who’s been wasted by detroit. that’s a pretty strong statement.

    detroit has had some great individual players who were never really able to transcend their circumstances and achieve team success. and they were never able to test waters with a different team.

    should be fun to watch.

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    this should be real interesting.

    we always talk about how much a system makes a player. and how much the player makes the system.

    nature vs nurture even.

    the story is this is a super talented qb not just physically. but mentally he’s got what you want in a pro qb as well. he’s just been stuck in a crappy situation.

    how does he do when he’s got all that support around him? not just players but a system that should maximize his talents.

    i’m interested to see how it goes.

    I’m expecting some head scratching moments from Stafford. Watch some highlights of the Lions games.

    He may be good at analyzing the D pre-snap, but once the action starts Stafford is tough and wants to make plays, but he can press & make mistakes. Sound familiar?

    In the opening game of last year, with the Lions ahead against the Bears Stafford took a bad sack that resulted in a 57 yard fg that the Lions missed, of course.

    On the next possession with like 3 minutes left, Stafford threw late over the middle into the middle of two Bears. The ball bounced in the air and the Bears grabbed the int to take over in Lions territory.

    Stafford DID lead an impressive last minute drive. The Lions rookie rb, of course, dropped a good pass that should have been the game-winning td. I don’t know if I’ve seen a Rams loss like that, ever. Man, it would be hard to be a Lions fan.

    Anyways, from what I’ve seen, Stafford is a guy who will take chances trying to make plays & he will make mistakes. I don’t see how a 33 year old qb changes at this point of his career, especially playing behind the Rams o-line.

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    Anyways, from what I’ve seen, Stafford is a guy who will take chances trying to make plays & he will make mistakes. I don’t see how a 33 year old qb changes at this point of his career, especially playing behind the Rams o-line.

    yeah. i’m skeptical. i’m not necessarily convinced either way. but i’m skeptical. either way it should be interesting.

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    Lindsey Thiry@LindseyThiry
    When asked about Super Bowl expectations, new Rams QB Matthew Stafford says he wants to play in the big games, big moments. “Sometimes the pressure is a positive thing,” he says.

    Stu Jackson@StuJRams
    Matthew Stafford said he’s already talked to Andrew Whitworth “and a bunch of the o-lineman,” as well as WRs Robert Woods and Cooper Kupp.

    Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
    Stafford: This was a tough decision (to leave Detroit). The Lions were amazing and worked through it with me, which I think is pretty rare.

    Attraction to Rams was current success, he says. Feels like he can win quickly w team.

    Stu Jackson@StuJRams
    Matthew Stafford on what made the @RamsNFL an appealing destination: “They’ve had a bunch of success as a team, that’s something that attracted me to them.”

    Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
    Stafford on Rams WRs Robert Woods, Cooper Kupp: They do an outstanding job of getting open. It’s pretty impressive to watch those guys go. They both do it in their own unique way, both have an understanding of the game (that) jumps out on tape…’

    Once they have the ball in their hand, they do a great job of running after the catch, which is huge in this league. Those guys do an outstanding job of that.

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    Lions’ Matthew Stafford Called ‘Volatile’ Quarterback in 2020

    Jul 28, 2020

    Matthew Stafford has been up and down over the course of his career, so it might make sense that many think the player is volatile in nature heading into the season for the Detroit Lions.

    Recently, Pro Football Focus took a look at picking out some quarterback tiers for every signal caller this coming season. Stafford himself was said to be a tier 3 player, which is defined by writer Steve Palazzolo as a “volatile or conservative quarterback that rely heavily on supporting cast and play calling” in any given season.

    Here is what Palazzolo wrote on Stafford’s case:

    “Stafford getting back to a downfield attacking machine is a great sign for the Lions, and that should absolutely be their approach in 2020. There are a handful of games each year in which Stafford looks like a top-five quarterback, using his strong arm and playmaking feel to make “wow” plays all over the field. While it’s not easy to bottle that up and trot it out there for 16 games, a more aggressive, downfield-throwing Stafford has a much better chance of unlocking that potential, and the Lions have the skill position talent to put points on the board.”

    The rating for Stafford isn’t likely too far off. Certain seasons the quarterback has been better than others, and it has a direct result of what type of players he has complementing him and what type of system he is playing in. With Darrell Bevell now in the fold and the team looking comfortable on offense, the hope is that the Lions have finally found Stafford the kind of system that allows for consistency.

    Joining Stafford in this tier were plenty of players, including Carson Wentz, Kirk Cousins, Dak Prescott, Baker Mayfield, Jared Goff and even Cam Newton. Theoretically, Stafford could be in position to be better than some of these players this coming season.

    Right now, though, Stafford is still volatile, which means anything could be the case.

    Matthew Stafford Played ‘Best Football’ During 2019

    ESPN’s Dan Orlovsky went back and watched the tape from early in the 2019 season when Stafford was healthy. What he found was a quarterback that he thinks was playing the best football in the entire league at that point at his position.

    Dan Orlovsky@danorlovsky7
    Go re-watch the first 8 games for the @Lions last year. Matthew Stafford was the best QB in football

    Orlovsky’s take might be shocking to some. Quarterbacks like Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes and company had great seasons. Stafford was on their level until he suffered a back injury which cost him the second half of the year and a chance at team and personal success.

    How good would Stafford have finished? Nobody knows, but it’s clear if the player that was around in the beginning of last season shows up in 2020, the team will benefit in a significant way. It could have everything to do with the system he’s in, which could mean big things for the Lions and calming some volatility.

    Matthew Stafford Called Elite Quarterback

    Stafford is clearly valued by folks in the NFL community in a big way. Recently, Bucky Brooks of NFL.com revealed a list of his top 5 quarterbacks who are transcendent in the league right now. Stafford was included, and was included amongst some true luminaries right now at the position.

    Bucky Brooks@BuckyBrooks
    Apr 4, 2020
    Top 5 Transcendent QB Talents

    1. Patrick Mahomes, KC
    2. Russell Wilson, Seattle
    3. Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay
    4. DeShaun Watson, Houston
    5. Matt Stafford, Detroit

    Transcendent: (adjective) surpassing the ordinary; exceptional; supreme; magnificent
    #Top5 #NFL

    It’s likely to be controversial for many that Stafford is on the list given his lack of big success in the NFL in terms of wins and losses at this point, but there is little doubting the fact that Stafford has some major talent to rely on at this point. He’s got a great arm and all the tools to dominate.

    The hope is Stafford’s talent shines through and he starts to win bigger on the big stage in the future. For now, though, he still makes the cut in terms of elite players at his position in the mind of Brooks and likely plenty of others.

    Matthew Stafford Named Potential 2020 NFL MVP by ESPN

    That back injury ended up costing Stafford the rest of the 2019 season, but now that he has presumably healed up, the sky could be the limit for the quarterback during the 2020 season. In fact, some already see Stafford as being in the mix for a major award for his play during next season.

    ESPN recently put together an Insider piece predicting some outcomes for the 2020 season. When it came to league MVP, there were scant votes for Stafford, but one insider was bold enough to say he thinks the Detroit quarterback could be the league MVP.

    In a piece by MLive.com’s Benjamin Raven, the thoughts of ESPN’s Jeremy Fowler from the piece are presented. Here’s a look at what was written by Raven that Fowler shared in the piece:

    “The Lions quarterback was playing some of the best ball of his career before going down with fractured bones in his back, though, and his level of play was reason enough for one ESPN analyst to pencil him in as the 2020 NFL MVP.

    “Mahomes is still the game’s best player, but Stafford was playing really good football before his midseason back issues,” ESPN’s Jeremy Fowler writes (ESPN Insider). “If he leads Detroit to contention, which isn’t so farfetched considering the talent around him, he’ll be in the MVP mix because he puts up numbers and the NFC North is as open as Kenny Golladay.”

    The Lions were arguably getting MVP level play out of Stafford before he got hurt, and the numbers proved that he was acclimating just fine to Darrell Bevell’s new offense in Detroit. Last season, Stafford was cruising along to the tune of 19 touchdowns, 5 interceptions and 2,499 yards. Clearly, he was the most valuable player for the Lions considering what happened to the team when he went down.

    The hope is that next season, Stafford can put together just as elite of a year and dominate on the field in similar fashion. If he can, he’s likely to surge higher on tiers such as this for 2021

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