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August 30, 2019 at 5:27 pm #104489znModerator
Rams cuts, first 18: https://www.therams.com/news/rams-make-initial-roster-cuts-18-players-released
QB Allen, Brandon
G Beecham, Abdul
TE Blanton, Kendall
TE Brooker, Romello
TE Brown, Keenen
RB Colburn, Matt
DB Gervase, Jake
WR Greene, Jalen
T Hitner, Brandon
C Hrynkiewicz, Vitas
DT Jones, Bryant
T Kaskey, Matt
LB Kupp, Ketner
WR Lloyd, Johnathan
P Miller, Brock
WR Proehl, Austin
DB Richards, Ramon
DT Roberts, Boogie
August 30, 2019 at 5:50 pm #104492AgamemnonParticipantAugust 30, 2019 at 6:13 pm #104493joemadParticipantBoogie Roberts …. it was a long shot but I was rooting a beloved San Jose State Spartan
There’s still hope for fellow Spartan Jeremiah Kolone to make the roster…
I guess no family affair for Kupp and Proehl……
August 30, 2019 at 7:13 pm #104497HramParticipantLooks to me they are holding back on the ones they would prefer to make it through to the practice squad.
August 30, 2019 at 7:46 pm #104499znModeratorLos Angeles Rams@RamsNFL
The 53-man roster must be set by tomorrow at 1 PM PT.August 30, 2019 at 11:50 pm #104503JackPMillerParticipantDid not know the practice squad is now up to 10 players. Interesting.
I believe this is how the PS could could go.
Brian Allen
Abdul Beecham(I believe he was told he will be on the PS)
One of the TE’s we cut
Matt Kaskey
Bryant Jones or Boogie Roberts
One of the WRs we cut
One of the DBs we cut
The others will come from other teams.August 31, 2019 at 2:22 pm #104522znModeratorAaron Wilson@AaronWilson_NFL
Rams cutting linebacker Dakota Allen, according to league sourceMike Garafolo@MikeGarafolo
#Rams are waiving CB Donte Deayon, source says. He had a pick this preseason, has four INTs the last three preseasons combined. Poor kid is undersized, though, and that’s what teams often can’t get over.August 31, 2019 at 3:10 pm #104525znModeratorAaron Wilson@AaronWilson_NFL
Rams cut John Franklin-Myers, per a league source. Good defensive lineman, should see action on waivers. Fourth-round draft pick last year. Played over 200 snaps as a rookie, had strip sack against Vikings and sacked Tom Brady in Super Bowl. Rams’ team Rookie of the Year last yrAugust 31, 2019 at 3:17 pm #104526AgamemnonParticipanthttps://www.therams.com/news/rams-trim-roster-down-to-53-players
Saturday, Aug 31, 2019 12:14 PM
Rams trim roster down to 53 playersJamie Han
After releasing 18 players on Friday, the club released 19 additional players on Saturday to reach 53 players on the roster heading into the regular season. The Rams made the following transaction:
Waived, No Recall:
Allen, Dakota (LB – Texas Tech)
Brewer, Chandler (T – Middle Tennessee)
Copeland, Marquise (DT – Cincinnati)
Davis, Justin (RB – Southern California)
Deayon, Donte (DB – Boise State)
Durham, Landis (DE – Texas A&M)
Franklin, John (DE – Stephen F. Austin)
Hodge, Khadarel (WR – Prairie View)
Kelly, John (RB – Tennessee)
Kolone, Jeremiah (G – San Jose State)
Parker, Steven (DB – Oklahoma)
Peterson, Kevin (DB – Oklahoma State)
Wolford, John (QB – Wake Forest)Waived, Injured:
Bachman, Alex (WR – Wake Forest)
Carraway, Josh (LB – Texas Christian)
Hatfield, Dominique (DB – Utah)
Young, Trevon (LB – Louisville)Reserve/Injured:
Kiser, Micah (LB – Virginia)
Suspended:
Neary, Aaron (C – Eastern Washington)
In addition to the 53-man roster, the team may sign upto 10 practice squad players beginning this Sunday, at 10a.m. PDT.
August 31, 2019 at 3:22 pm #104527znModeratorVincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
No huge surprises on #Rams cuts, although I’m slightly surprised that CB Kevin Peterson got cut and that they will go into season (as of now) with just three RB’s after cutting both John Kelly and Justin Davis==
Waived, No Recall:
Allen, Dakota (LB – Texas Tech)
Brewer, Chandler (T – Middle Tennessee)
Copeland, Marquise (DT – Cincinnati)
Davis, Justin (RB – Southern California)
Deayon, Donte (DB – Boise State)
Durham, Landis (DE – Texas A&M)
Franklin, John (DE – Stephen F. Austin)
Hodge, Khadarel (WR – Prairie View)
Kelly, John (RB – Tennessee)
Kolone, Jeremiah (G – San Jose State)
Parker, Steven (DB – Oklahoma)
Peterson, Kevin (DB – Oklahoma State)
Wolford, John (QB – Wake Forest)Waived, Injured:
Bachman, Alex (WR – Wake Forest)
Carraway, Josh (LB – Texas Christian)
Hatfield, Dominique (DB – Utah)
Young, Trevon (LB – Louisville)Reserve/Injured:
Kiser, Micah (LB – Virginia)
August 31, 2019 at 3:28 pm #104528Eternal RamnationParticipantSo they’re keeping Webster and Natson?
August 31, 2019 at 3:34 pm #104531znModeratorSo they’re keeping Webster and Natson?
Who knows. They’re not done. For example Neary is still listed on the roster.
August 31, 2019 at 3:49 pm #104533AgamemnonParticipantSo they’re keeping Webster and Natson?
Who knows. They’re not done. For example Neary is still listed on the roster.
Neary does not count against the roster until he comes off Suspension. Then he has to get cut or they cut someone else.
August 31, 2019 at 3:51 pm #104534AgamemnonParticipantAugust 31, 2019 at 4:06 pm #104535znModeratorVincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
For anyone who thinks the preseason is meaningless, you might want to check with guys like Nsimba Webster and Natrez Patrick, whose stock with the #Rams rose each time they stepped on the field in games and made plays.I wouldn’t be so quick to edit Dakota out of the #Rams picture, although they’re beholden to the waiver wire on that one (and plenty of others) B: Never underestimate how much special teams play into some of these decisions.
Stu Jackson@StuJRams
College free agents who made the #LARams’ initial 53-man roster:LB Natrez Patrick
LB Troy Reeder
WR Nsimba Webster==
5 most surprising cuts made by the Rams https://t.co/hD02JImgaw
— Rams Wire (@TheRamsWire) August 31, 2019
August 31, 2019 at 4:10 pm #104536PA RamParticipantYeah I don’t get keeping Natsun. Maybe they just like the guy. I also was surprised by Myers and Peterson and Allen. And I have to say that Henderson did not impress me. I would have rather kept Kelly.
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
August 31, 2019 at 4:11 pm #104537znModeratorRams 53-man roster by jersey number https://t.co/dgnDzpab0x
— Rams Wire (@TheRamsWire) August 31, 2019
August 31, 2019 at 4:13 pm #104538znModeratorVincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
Unless he gets claimed, [Wolford] will be back with the #Rams on the practice squad by 10 am tomorrowThe return of Fox, the fact that Smart really transformed himself, and JFM not taking that next “step” conspired against him.
August 31, 2019 at 4:25 pm #104539znModeratorStu Jackson@StuJRams
As Sean McVay said today, roster is far from finalized based on direction regular season takes with injuries, etc. Key word is “initial.”Lindsey Thiry@LindseyThiry
Rams go with three RBs: Todd Gurley, Malcolm Brown and Darrell Henderson. Les Snead was vague with details, but said, “We have a couple things that could explain that a little later down the road.”Roster move I didn’t see coming for Rams — 7 WRs. Thought KhaDarel Hodge would be a casualty to 6 WRs (He was), didn’t see them keeping Webster despite a nice preseason: Brandin Cooks, Robert Woods, Cooper Kupp, Josh Reynolds, Michael Thomas, JoJo Natson, Nsimba Webster.
J.B. Long@JB_Long
D. Allen
J. Franklin
K. Hodge
J. Kelly
S. Parker
J. Wolford
…among the notable cuts. Hope to see as many as possible on P.S.Congratulations to N. Webster, N. Patrick among others.
Gary Klein@LATimesklein
Webster joins WR Cooper Kupp, LB Samson Ebukam and suspended OL Aaron Neary as Eastern Washington products with the Rams. “Eastern Washington, the pipeline to the Rams,” Sean McVay said.August 31, 2019 at 4:48 pm #104540znModeratorQB (2)
Jared Goff
Blake BortlesRB (3)
Todd Gurley
Malcolm Brown
Darrell HendersonWR (7)
Brandin Cooks
Cooper Kupp
Josh Reynolds
Mike Thomas
Robert Woods
Nsimba Webster
JoJo NatsonTE/FB (3)
Gerald Everett
Tyler Higbee
Johnny MundtOL (8)
Brian Allen
Austin Blythe
Jamil Demby
Rob Havenstein
Joseph Noteboom
Andrew Whitworth
David Edwards
Bobby EvansDL (6)
Michael Brockers
Aaron Donald*
Sebastian Joseph-Day
Tanzel Smart
Greg Gaines
Morgan FoxOLB/EDGE (5)
Samson Ebukam
Dante Fowler Jr
Natrez Patrick
Ogbonnia Okoronkwo
Clay MatthewsILB (4)
Cory Littleton
Bryce Hager
Travin Howard
Troy ReederCB (6)
Troy Hill
Marcus Peters
Nickell Robey-Coleman
Aqib Talib
Darious Williams
David Long JrS (5)
Eric Weddle
John Johnson III
Taylor Rapp
Marqui Christian
Nick ScottST (3)
Johnny Hekker
Jake McQuaide
Greg Zuerlein** ILB Micah Kiser is on the reserved/injured list
** OL Aaron Neary is on the suspended list (four games)
August 31, 2019 at 5:26 pm #104542AgamemnonParticipantAugust 31, 2019 at 5:48 pm #104544AgamemnonParticipantA couple notes on #Rams: Micah Kiser going on IR today means he's done for the year, unfortunately. So if you're wondering why Justin Lawler, who is hurt right now, remained on the roster it's because the #Rams hope he can return this year.
— Vincent Bonsignore (@VinnyBonsignore) August 31, 2019
Essentially, they now have options and flexibility with Lawler's spot. He may eventually land on the less restrictive IR list, which would open a spot on the 53. Or, if it's determined he can play sooner rather than later he'll stay on the 53. https://t.co/0qNoyIFrgV
— Vincent Bonsignore (@VinnyBonsignore) August 31, 2019
August 31, 2019 at 5:53 pm #104545znModerator𝒥𝒾𝓂 𝐸𝓋𝑒𝓇𝑒𝓉𝓉@Jim_Everett
What the fans don’t get to experience about a team is the locker room chemistry of teammates. Coaches will make sure that the 53 plus the practice squad guys are positive, productive, and of a team oriented mind. Talented players are released b/c they lack these key attributes.Rams24/7@Rams24_7
Seems like most of the surprise cuts have to do with ST:
Reeder over Allen
Scott over Parker
Williams over Peterson
Thomas over HodgeVincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
One player to keep an eye on as someone who could push up the #Rams depth chart: ILB Travin Howard. As a Rams coach told me: “He’s a baller.”[Dakota Allen] was released. But the hope (for the #Rams) is he clears waivers and is added to the practice squad
August 31, 2019 at 7:41 pm #104548Eternal RamnationParticipantSome head scratchers for sure the biggest being they kept Long who imo looks horrible and cut about 5 dbs that out played him by a mile the dude is just too slow.
August 31, 2019 at 9:27 pm #104552znModeratorSome head scratchers for sure the biggest being they kept Long who imo looks horrible and cut about 5 dbs that out played him by a mile the dude is just too slow.
IMO that’s just a case of a rookie learning a new defense and thinking more than playing, while all the CBs who showed better than him had experience in the system.
August 31, 2019 at 10:23 pm #104558znModeratorWildflecken
JFM had a bad camp and preseason. Looked slow and indecisive. Have to wonder if he was playing through a nagging injury? Was especially bad playing the run, could not set edge, fight through block and wrap rb.
Did you catch play in first quarter where rb got outside of him and went for a 7 yd gain when JFM should have had him near LOS? He looked very, very slow on that play
Last season JFM swung between OLB and DE and played at a much lighter weight. He is viewed as a scheme fit DE in a traditional 4-3 base. This season they wanted him to concentrate solely at DE behind Michael and he came in much heavier to this camp than last preseason. If he was not playing through a lingering injury, the added weight may explain his lack of explosiveness.
August 31, 2019 at 11:46 pm #104559znModeratorRams set 53-man roster, but changes are likely before opener
Vincent Bonsignore
While Saturday seemed like the end game for a roster process that began months ago, it also represented the beginning of a dizzying 48-hour period that will ultimately determine the Rams’ regular-season roster.
Yes, the Rams trimmed from 89 players to 53 ahead of the NFL’s deadline. But no, the roster they submitted won’t necessarily be the one they take to Charlotte next weekend for their season opener against the Carolina Panthers. In fact, good chance it won’t be.
The final edition depends on whether they submit any waiver-wire claims beginning Sunday – and are awarded any of the players they put claims on – and who among the players they waived Saturday clears waivers and is eligible to be re-signed.
“Not quite done yet,” is how Rams general manager Les Snead explained it.
Said head coach Sean McVay: “What I’ve begun to learn over the last three years especially is, there’s some nuances, there’s some layers and a lot of that is specific to not only opening week but projecting, ‘How do you give looks? How do you balance out a lot of different things that you want to do personnel-wise in a given game plan?’ There’s a lot of factors in it.”
That said, the bulk of the work is done. And save for tinkering that will go between now and Monday, when the Rams earnestly begin preparations for the Panthers, they have a pretty good idea who they will take to North Carolina.
Here is a breakdown of what the roster looks like right now:
Quarterbacks (2)
Jared Goff, Blake BortlesThe Rams’ regular-season quarterback room essentially was set months ago, the only real question being whether Brandon Allen and John Wolford would push for consideration on the practice squad. Both were cut, as expected, with the consensus opinion being that Wolford will be invited back to the practice squad should he clear waivers.
Goff did not take a preseason snap for the second straight year, but based on his work during training camp and the four joint practices against the Raiders and Chargers, he appears poised to take another step forward. In Bortles, the former Jacksonville Jaguars starter, Goff finally has a backup with experience. As a result, the Rams are in a much better position to deal with an injury to Goff, a luxury they didn’t really have the last two seasons.
Running backs (3)
Todd Gurley, Malcolm Brown, Darrell HendersonWord to the wise: It would be premature to etch this group in stone, as the Rams have some balls in the air at running back. Depending on how they fall, this room could look a bit different in a few days. Chances are, they will add another running back.
Gurley and Brown are set as the top two backs and for now, it will be Brown picking up whatever slack remains from the load-management program Gurley is on. The Rams are intent on protecting Gurley’s knee for the long haul of the 16-game schedule and, just as importantly, the postseason. It means a likely reduction of his carries and snap counts, and Brown is expected to soak them up. That said, the Rams drafted Henderson with the idea of getting him on the field as soon as possible, so expect a role that features his playmaking ability as a runner and pass-catcher. Initially, anyway, he will be a change of pace to Gurley.
Receivers (7)
Brandin Cooks, Robert Woods, Cooper Kupp, Josh Reynolds, Mike Thomas, JoJo Natson, Nsimba WebsterAs at a few other positions, the preseason played a big role in guiding the Rams’ decision-making at wide receiver. By not playing their starters, they gave more opportunities for Thomas to re-establish himself as a viable contributor and Webster, an undrafted free agent from Eastern Washington, to flash a varied skill set that immediately caught the Rams’ eyes. As a result, they were compelled to load up at wide receiver by keeping seven on the 53-man roster to even further lengthen one of the best groups in the NFL. Cooks, Woods and Kupp are as good as any trio in the league and Reynolds is capable of starting on just about any other team in the league. That’s as good as it gets, anywhere.
Tight ends (3)
Tyler Higbee, Gerald Everett, Johnny MundtNo big surprise here after Romello Brocker, Keenan Brown and Kendall Blanton – three rookie free agents brought in to create competition – did not distinguish themselves during training camp and the preseason. In this case, though, the status quo is not a bad deal as Higbee has grown into a reliable blocker and pass-catcher and Everett appears on the cusp of an even bigger role. In Everett’s case, his numbers thus far are more a product of how the Rams deploy and utilize him than anything he has or hasn’t done. And you get the feeling he can be a breakout candidate if they simply look his way more often. Mundt’s value is his blocking and special-teams play.
Offensive linemen (8)
LT Andrew Whitworth, LG Joe Noteboom, C Brian Allen, RG Austin Blythe, RT Rob Havenstein, T David Edwards, T Bobby Evans, C/G/T Jamil Demby (plus suspended G/C Aaron Neary)The Rams’ decision not to play first-year starters Noteboom and Allen during the preseason was a strong indication they were happy with their progress as replacements for veterans Rodger Saffold and John Sullivan, respectively. Now it’s up to the two second-year linemen to justify that faith. Their acclimation on an otherwise experienced offensive line will play a big role in shaping the Rams’ offensive fate. We can talk all we want about the progress of Goff and the electricity of Gurley and the versatility and production of Cooks, Woods and Kupp, but it all starts with the offensive line. It’s no coincidence that the Rams scoring the most points in the NFL over the last two years coincided with their offensive line grading out as one of the best in the league. The Rams sat Edwards, Demby and Evans against the Texans in the fourth preseason game, so it’s no shock they survived the final cut as the primary backups. Their lack of experience is glaring, though, and it would not be a shock if the Rams took a more experienced lineman off the waiver wire. Neary suffered a fractured ankle in Week 3 of the preseason and had been set to serve a four-game suspension to start the season.
Defensive linemen (7)
Aaron Donald, Michael Brockers, Sebastian Joseph-Day, Greg Gaines, Tanzel Smart, Morgan Fox, Justin LawlerThe Rams have some flexibility here because Lawler’s foot injury could might land him on the injured-reserve list. That would open a roster spot, perhaps to be used at a different position. Had Lawler been put on IR on Saturday, he would have been declared out for the whole season. Moving forward, and depending on his recovery timeline, he could land on a less restrictive injured list and be able to return at some point this year.
Joseph-Day appears to have held off Gaines, a rookie, for the base-defense nose tackle position alongside Donald and Brockers. But Gaines should forge a role for himself before long. Fox has played well as a rotational rusher after missing all of last year with a knee injury, a job he will carry into the regular season.
The big surprise here is the combination of Smart re-emerging on the Rams’ radar and Fox coming back strong off his knee injury, which squeezed John Franklin-Myers off the roster. The second-year situational pass rusher played effectively last year, but he didn’t take that the necessary step forward from year one to year two and lost his roster footing as a result.
Outside linebackers (5)
Dante Fowler Jr., Clay Matthews III, Samson Ebukam, Ogbonnia Okoronkwo, Natrez PatrickThe addition of Matthews and the emergence of Okoronkwo and Patrick throughout the preseason leaves the Rams with the potential for a deep, versatile group of pass rushers and creates options moving forward. Okoronkwo and Patrick flashed throughout the preseason and appear to have bright futures. For now, they will wait in the wings, perhaps as eventual replacements depending on what the Rams do after this season with Fowler, who is playing on a one-year contract. As it relates to this year, Fowler, Matthews and Ebukam form an intriguing trio, and given Wade Phillips’ ability to create advantageous matchup for his pass rushers, they should be active and productive.
Inside linebackers (4)
Cory Littleton, Bryce Hager, Travin Howard, Troy ReederHager assumed the starting job opposite Littleton after Micah Kiser suffered a serious pectoral injury that will sideline him for the whole year. But keep an eye on Howard, whose athletic ability, power and sideline-to-sideline playmaking ability could get him on the field sooner than later. In fact, Howard could push for a starting role at some point this year. Littleton is set on the other side, and is in line for a big pay raise. The surprise here is Reeder, an undrafted free agent who kept getting better and better, both as a linebacker and special-teams ace, and eventually beat out fellow rookie Dakota Allen for a roster spot. Allen impressed the coaches and is a strong candidate to return as a practice-squad player.
Cornerbacks (6)
Aqib Talib, Marcus Peters, Nickell Robey-Coleman, Troy Hill, David Long Jr., Darious WilliamsThe Rams knew throughout training camp they would face tough decisions at cornerback because a number of players stood out beyond the four-man base of Talib, Peters, Robey-Coleman and Hill. It made for an enviable dilemma but set up the certainty that a good player or two would get cut. Ultimately, they opted to keep Williams over Kevin Peterson, who flashed throughout camp and preseason and has a future in the NFL somewhere.
From top to bottom, this group has as good an argument as any to be the best in the NFL, especially if Long, a rookie from Michigan, continues to get better as expected.
Safeties (5)
Eric Weddle, John Johnson, Taylor Rapp, Marqui Christian, Nick ScottWeddle and Johnson are as talented as any duo in the NFL, and Christian is one of the most underrated rotational players in the league. Rapp, a rookie from Washington, is sort of a combination of all three. Combined, they give Phillips a bunch of schematic options, ranging from the back end of the defense to the line of scrimmage. Given the package and situation, don’t be surprised to see three safeties on the field. Although Scott might not see much time as a positional player this year, the rookie is already a valued special-teams player and is expected to contribute in that area immediately.
Special teams (3)
P Johnny Hekker, K Greg Zuerlein, LS Jake McQuaideFor the fourth straight year, the Rams go into the regular season with arguably the best special-teams group in the NFL.
September 1, 2019 at 12:47 am #104561znModeratorVB: The Rams have some flexibility here because Lawler’s foot injury could might land him on the injured-reserve list. That would open a roster spot, perhaps to be used at a different position.
Vincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
I do not think the #Rams are completely set yet at RB -
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