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April 14, 2023 at 10:51 pm #143473znModeratorRams Brothers@RamsBrothersWould really like to see the Rams bridge the gap between rounds 3 and 5/somehow find a way to get another top-100 pick. Perhaps move some of the late round compensatory picks and/or capital from next years draft to do so. Need at least 3 future starters from this draft.April 15, 2023 at 8:53 am #143476Billy_TParticipant
I know it sounds crazy for any draft, but I think there are more than a dozen immediate or future starters from the above haul.
Thanks for doing all this and communicating about it.
You’re welcome. Again, I’m kinda addicted to this stuff.
Some more notes and observations.
Am using The Athletic for a lot of my choices, especially Dane Brugler’s recent and seriously comprehensive guide, The Beast. He differs on a lot of players with the composite board at the nfldatabase site, which I use for my amateur GM mocks. If a player appears to be more athletic than a higher ranked guy, and/or Brugler has him higher, I tend to go with that. Height, weight, age are other factors. Good comments about their intangibles as well, which Brugler does here and there. Positional value is important, too, and I try to cover all the Rams’ bases.
Interesting changes on the composite board, regarding ups and downs. Israel Abanikanda is mostly rising now, after falling a bit — Scouts keep adjusting their boards all the way up to Draft Day, of course. He’s now averaging #108. Jonathan Mingo is no longer in sleeper terrain, slotting in on average at #88. When I first started doing these mocks, roughly a month ago, I could snag him in the 150-160 range.
Chandler Zavala is another ex-sleeper. Used to be able to nab him in the 6th or 7th round. He’s now often going well before his recent slotting, #131, and Brugler likes him even more. Gives him a 3rd round grade. Another large gap between Brugler and the composite board: Guard Anthony Bradford from LSU. He’s a 3rd to 4th rounder for Brugler, but waay down the composite board at #262. Massive guard/tackle, at 6’4″, 335, who tested exceptionally well at the Combine. Again, size/athleticism, and he’s just 22 later this month. I’d definitely give him a shot . . .
April 15, 2023 at 9:07 am #143477Billy_TParticipantOf further interest to me. A coupla articles by Bo Wulf on The Athletic about where the best players come from, per round and school. Mostly what you’d figure, but with some surprises. Round One yields the most best players per position, but not all of them. If I read his graph correctly, looks like running back and guard do best in rounds 2-3.
Safety, corner, DT, and Edge do better in rounds 4+ than in 2-3, but not as well as the 1st. But that’s with two extra rounds (4,5,6,7, and a lot of comps) — again, if I read the graph correctly. Center is a tie after the 1st.
Getting well into the weeds: I want to know if there’s a correlation between late round hits and pre-draft rankings. As in, players who were graded much higher, pre-draft, than their eventual selection. Is it the round, or the original assessment, etc. etc.? I’m guessing it’s a mix, but I’d bet a lot of those hits are players who fell, often dramatically, for this or that reason.
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April 18, 2023 at 10:57 am #143494znModeratorKiper and McShay teamed up for a 3-round mock draft and they sent the Rams two defenders, as well as a running back https://t.co/Pva4X7GhVO
— Rams Wire (@TheRamsWire) April 18, 2023
April 21, 2023 at 6:14 pm #143518znModeratorThe Rams are a week away from going on the clock in Round 2. Here's how I would rank their top 7 roster needs heading into the draft. https://t.co/LlGttFdTDn
— Cameron DaSilva (@camdasilva) April 21, 2023
April 23, 2023 at 12:21 pm #143522znModeratorFun fact: Sean McVay "really doesn't love scouting," according to Rams GM Les Snead
He's much more interested in the concepts and plays when watching college film https://t.co/OCLRq1BLei
— Cameron DaSilva (@camdasilva) April 23, 2023
April 24, 2023 at 3:22 pm #143526znModeratorI traded back twice from No. 36, but stayed in the second round and added a top-100 pick (two top-140) to find immediate production players, some at premium positions. That is, I believe, the best strategy here…but we'll see how the board falls when the real thing unfolds. https://t.co/iIJL9BzExS
— Jourdan Rodrigue (@JourdanRodrigue) April 24, 2023
April 24, 2023 at 7:25 pm #143528JackPMillerParticipantDon’t forget, I posted a mock draft. Hopefully, all of you can talk about it. It’s all NFL teams.
April 24, 2023 at 11:34 pm #143532znModeratorPeter King shared a tidbit about the Rams leading into the draft. He thinks they want to move out of the 36th pick and try to stockpile top 150 picks https://t.co/LXPAQPP1UZ
— Cameron DaSilva (@camdasilva) April 24, 2023
April 25, 2023 at 11:00 pm #143535znModeratorMost, if not all of these prospects will probably be off the board at No. 36. But if any are still available, the Rams should be thrilled.
11 dream prospects for Los Angeles in Round 2 https://t.co/X8JN06vNCN
— Cameron DaSilva (@camdasilva) April 25, 2023
April 26, 2023 at 9:59 am #143541ZooeyModeratorApril 26, 2023 at 10:10 am #143542Billy_TParticipantFinal mocks for me before the Draft. A couple. Thought I’d tweak my frequency of trades and their effects. Was being too generous to myself, even though it worked under the rules of the website’s software. Extended the gap between trade-downs, and took less compensation . . . in general, going from the early 100s to the mid-100s instead. The results are much less to my liking . . . but probably more “realistic,” if the Rams could find willing partners, of course.
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WR | Cincinnati LogoCincinnatiTRADEApril 26, 2023 at 10:24 am #143544Billy_TParticipantSomething I noticed with the mocks simulators. Lotsa very good players available when the Rams get their first shot at #36. Even if they stick and don’t trade down, they should be able to find three high impact starters before that massive gap after #77. But there will be plenty of surprises even from #167 on, when they have picks again. They could find a coupla starters (instant or eventual) late, especially at guard, center, TE, a gadget running back like Keaton Mitchell, and/or a stout DT like Cameron Young.
Should be able to find at least one WR for their rotation late, too. Not so sure about finding good edges late. Doesn’t look likely.
I do think they should trade down early, though, because the talent is rich enough even in the 100s for them to land several other starters. But they’ll have to strategize carefully. Even with my absurd number of trades, I still couldn’t get all the positions filled I wanted. As in, couldn’t get starting DBs, safeties, edges, a DT, and a first rate running back all together. If I included a wideout early — my favorite being Jonathan Mingo — that took away from somewhere else, etc.
The Rams will likely end up with a bit more than half the picks I managed in my mocks . . . so they’ll have to play much better chess. We may well have to wait until 2024 for them to fill in quality starters via the Draft and FA.
April 26, 2023 at 10:44 am #143545JackPMillerParticipantShocked no one talked about my draft.
April 26, 2023 at 11:50 am #143546Billy_TParticipantThought I’d post one more for good luck. This one yields two starters at Edge, DJ Turner falls to them, and they get their Deebo with Mingo. Two eventual starters at guard in Bradford and Daniels, with the latter having strong potential at tackle as well. Reid is a high ceiling dart throw, with freakish athleticism for tackle. Pappoe brings them incredible speed at linebacker (4.39), and I got ’em two solid QB backups, with Thompson-Robinson having solid upside as eventual starter. Fastest velocity among all the tested QBs this year (62mph).
Cam Mitchell should be able to start next to Turner, and Durant can move to nickel.
Strong draft, IMO.
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— JAKE ELLENBOGEN (@JKBOGEN) April 27, 2023
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