for those who are arguing Rams shoulda drafted a qb high

zn wrote:

I don’t know if that’s anyone here, but it’s out there, on the net.

#1. Hill is better than any goll-durn rookie.

#2. They used the picks to build a solid team. If it works out that next year they bring in a expectations-setting namebrand rookie, he is better off coming to a solid team.

This whole get your qb and build the team around him thing is wearing on me. It should be the other way around.

That’s regardless what everyone says when it’s draft time.

Roethlisberger went to a solid team. They didn’t need him to spread his wings overnight. Flacco, same. Wilson, same. Kaepernick, same. Foles went to a team that already had probably the best OL in the game. Dalton, same. Rodgers, same.

After years of seeing *what* *happens*, I think it’s the better way.

So personally I don’t care whether or not they have some namebrand rookie. Hill will be better than any of them could be this year, and next year if they add one (which they probably will) that kid, whoever it is, will be better off coming to a team with some receivers, some experience, some maturity, an OL, and a defense.

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Yep.

That’s all I wanted to add.

Just a “yep”.

I’m too sad to add more…

zn wrote:

I don’t know if that’s anyone here, but it’s out there, on the net.

#1. Hill is better than any goll-durn rookie.

#2. They used the picks to build a solid team. If it works out that next year they bring in a expectations-setting namebrand rookie, he is better off coming to a solid team.

This whole get your qb and build the team around him thing is wearing on me. It should be the other way around.

That’s regardless what everyone says when it’s draft time.
Somehow I get the impression they’re done with Bradford despite all the sensationalist journalism going on.

Roethlisberger went to a solid team. They didn’t need him to spread his wings overnight. Flacco, same. Wilson, same. Kaepernick, same. Foles went to a team that already had probably the best OL in the game. Dalton, same. Rodgers, same.

After years of seeing *what* *happens*, I think it’s the better way.

So personally I don’t care whether or not they have some namebrand rookie. Hill will be better than any of them could be this year, and next year if they add one (which they probably will) that kid, whoever it is, will be better off coming to a team with some receivers, some experience, some maturity, an OL, and a defense.

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Somehow I get the impression they’re not done with Bradford despite all the sensationalist journalism going on.

• This reply was modified 10 years, 3 months ago by cgsuddeath.

I wouldn’t have wanted to lose out on GR or Donald. Not with that bunch that was available.

God bless you Mack…you are a beacon of light

zn wrote:

No, Luck really was. He was already doing things only more advanced pros do. It was like Donald with hand usage–rookies are not supposed to be advanced as he is. Remember, Luck was not only a good prospect in his own right, he was the son of a former pro qb and had Harbaugh as his college coach.

Really good hindsight.

Well, I think the key for THIS YEAR was that none of the available guys were all that good.
Had there been a real stud in the draft, then given Sam’s injury history it should have been seriously considered. <y sense is that they DID consider it, but never saw a guy worth taking.

In response to your long term argument about the relative values of QBs and team building, I think I’ll just say this.

Very few QBs drafted high are worth the hype.

But, occasionally a guy does make a difference and raises a team. Both Luck and RG III did.

And good teams ARE held back by lousy QBing. Hell, our fine 70s and 80s teams were.

So, in the end, I’d say it comes down to genuine quality. A truly special QB is damn rare. Don’t trade away the farm seeking one in bets … but do take one if you get the chance.

yup. but i would add. even if there was a prospect like a flacco or a roethlisberger. even that shoulda been considered. but there wasn’t even that. maybe bortles? i don’t know.

hopefully, in 2015, there will be some prospects in the middle of the first round.

oh i didn’t either. i shouldn’t have said “shoulda been considered” because at the time i was happy with the qb situation and confident that bradford would come back healthy. i guess my main point was that i didn’t like any of the qbs in 2014 at all. they were all over-drafted. bortles for example should have been a mid-first round pick at best.

i’m hoping the 2015 class is better.

with the other qbs it was well you gotta draft qb such and such because you need a qb and qbs are such a valuable commodity in today’s nfl…

with luck it was well you gotta draft him cuz he’s the best player available in this draft.

it was pretty much universally agreed that qbs are getting overdrafted because of their position. even bradford. suh was regarded as the best player available, but the rams drafted sam because… he was a qb. in retrospect, mccoy woulda been the best pick but that’s a different argument.

with luck. he was considered the best prospect period. that’s how i saw it.

• This reply was modified 10 years, 3 months ago by InvaderRam.
• This reply was modified 10 years, 3 months ago by InvaderRam.

I know Martz sure thinks Hill can do it . The guy is 6’5″ which helps him see stuff better he’s very tough and makes plays. That audible
where he changed the play and BC went for 20+, this guy is not Clemons.