a belated Kyren Wms thread

[InvaderRam]

whoa. is that kyren williams in the picture with steven jackson? very cool.

[zn]

InvaderRam wrote:

whoa. is that kyren williams in the picture with steven jackson? very cool.

Yes. For those who don’t know, Wms grew up in St. Louis as a Rams fan and his favorite player was Jackson.

[zn]

Looking at this stat–excluding quarterbacks, where does KW rank on “rushing yards before contact per attempt” ? He’s tied for 1st (with McAffrey) at 3.2.

And no other Ram is even close. The next on the list is Rivers and Freeman at 2.5, which is tied for 18th.

So with KW it’s both the OL blocking well and KW reading/using his blocks really well.

KW actually isn’t that impressive after contact. He doesn’t rank very high there (he ranks just about the middle of the league on that stat, 20th of 47). His major damage is done before contact–reading and using the blocking while reading the defenders who are attacking the LOS. 726 of his total 1144 yards rushing come before contact.

 

[zn]

roberto clemente@rclemente2121

k.williams ranks #1 in run success rate among all rb for 2023 – he also ranks #1 for the 2010-2023 fourteen-year stretch. 

a successful run gains at least 40% of yards-to-go on 1st down, 60% on 2nd down, and 100% on 3rd & 4th down – no one has been more successful than kw.

[wv]

zn wrote:

Looking at this stat–excluding quarterbacks, where does KW rank on “rushing yards before contact per attempt” ? He’s tied for 1st (with McAffrey) at 3.2. And no other Ram is even close. The next on the list is Rivers and Freeman at 2.5, which is tied for 18th. So with KW it’s both the OL blocking well and KW reading/using his blocks really well. KW actually isn’t that impressive after contact. He doesn’t rank very high there (he ranks just about the middle of the league on that stat, 20th of 47). His major damage is done before contact–reading and using the blocking while reading the defenders who are attacking the LOS. 726 of his total 1144 yards rushing come before contact.

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Yeah, this matches up with the eyeball conclusion.    He’s a genius at quickly deciding on/creating the best hole.   What Cooper Kupp has been to Stafford,  K. Williams has been with his Offensive Linemen.   There’s a ‘synergy’ or a sharing-of-one-brain, or ‘somethin.’   And it ‘has’ to involve coaching, as well.   Some OLine coach is ‘in on this’.

I cant remember ‘enjoying’ watching ‘the way’ a RB runs this much since Faulk.   And since Faulk had more talent, its almost ‘more’ fun to watch KW because he’s doing it with less raw-measurable-talent.

Its often a subtle nuanced talent.  And it took me a while to ‘see it.’   But once you see it, you just have to smile on almost every run.  Whether its a one yard gain or a fifteen yard gain he’s ‘do’in shit’ out there.

AND, despite him not being Earl Campbell after-contact, he does have a fun ‘pop’ when he’s pass blocking.  And he blocks cleanly, efficiently.  Some backs just look like they are gonna hurt themselves pass-blocking.  He knows how to hurt the other guy with one shot.

Fun team.  Really fun team.  Stafford’s out-of-this-world accuracy and boldness.   Kupp’s brilliant-shifty-ness.    Pakua’s competitive professionalism and enthusiasm.   KW.  Aaron Donald.  The Conductor.  Swiss-army knife Higby.   The big bad Guards.

 

Just a few players and a kicker shy of being Ring worthy.

 

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[zn]

wv wrote:

zn wrote:

Looking at this stat–excluding quarterbacks, where does KW rank on “rushing yards before contact per attempt” ? He’s tied for 1st (with McAffrey) at 3.2. And no other Ram is even close. The next on the list is Rivers and Freeman at 2.5, which is tied for 18th. So with KW it’s both the OL blocking well and KW reading/using his blocks really well. KW actually isn’t that impressive after contact. He doesn’t rank very high there (he ranks just about the middle of the league on that stat, 20th of 47). His major damage is done before contact–reading and using the blocking while reading the defenders who are attacking the LOS. 726 of his total 1144 yards rushing come before contact.

— Yeah, this matches up with the eyeball conclusion. He’s a genius at quickly deciding on/creating the best hole. What Cooper Kupp has been to Stafford, K. Williams has been with his Offensive Linemen. There’s a ‘synergy’ or a sharing-of-one-brain, or ‘somethin.’ And it ‘has’ to involve coaching, as well. Some OLine coach is ‘in on this’. I cant remember ‘enjoying’ watching ‘the way’ a RB runs this much since Faulk. And since Faulk had more talent, its almost ‘more’ fun to watch KW because he’s doing it with less raw-measurable-talent. Its often a subtle nuanced talent. And it took me a while to ‘see it.’ But once you see it, you just have to smile on almost every run. Whether its a one yard gain or a fifteen yard gain he’s ‘do’in shit’ out there. AND, despite him not being Earl Campbell after-contact, he does have a fun ‘pop’ when he’s pass blocking. And he blocks cleanly, efficiently. Some backs just look like they are gonna hurt themselves pass-blocking. He knows how to hurt the other guy with one shot. Fun team. Really fun team. Stafford’s out-of-this-world accuracy and boldness. Kupp’s brilliant-shifty-ness. Pakua’s competitive professionalism and enthusiasm. KW. Aaron Donald. The Conductor. Swiss-army knife Higby. The big bad Guards. Just a few players and a kicker shy of being Ring worthy. w v

Ich bin agree with every word of that.

[zn]

Here are my favorite comments on Wms from this thread.  In fact I think this is the best thread on Wms in the entire internet. 

zn wrote:

Consistently runs with the right tempo to let blocks develop. Has the burst to plant his foot and take advantage of holes created….He will press the hole when needed or throttle back to allow his blocks to develop….quickness and burst to take advantage of holes created

InvaderRam wrote:

i like especially that he’s so efficient with his touches.

InvaderRam wrote:

kyren is the biggest revelation of this offense.

Zooey wrote:

The Rams averaged 14.25 points per game, and were 1-3 without Williams. With Williams, the Rams have averaged 26.375/game, and are 5-3. It appears that he is a difference-maker in this offense.

canadaram wrote:

Kyren is the best red zone weapon that the Rams have had in quite some time.

wv wrote:

I’m just astonished at how he quick-slithers through traffic, and then bursts.

Williams and Nakua are, like, all-pros at this point.   Seriously.  Amazing.

In some ways Williams is the most interesting/fun RB to watch/analyze in a long time.

Billy_T wrote:

Great vision and contact balance. Makes a ton of good decisions on the fly, and tacklers miss him going through the hole.

InvaderRam wrote:

just constantly putting the offense in favorable situations to keep them in rhythm.

zn wrote:

roberto clemente@rclemente2121 k.williams ranks #1 in run success rate among all rb for 2023 – he also ranks #1 for the 2010-2023 fourteen-year stretch.

wv wrote:

I cant remember ‘enjoying’ watching ‘the way’ a RB runs this much since Faulk.   And since Faulk had more talent, its almost ‘more’ fun to watch KW because he’s doing it with less raw-measurable-talent. Its often a subtle nuanced talent.  And it took me a while to ‘see it.’   But once you see it, you just have to smile on almost every run.  Whether its a one yard gain or a fifteen yard gain he’s ‘do’in shit’ out there.

 

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Kyren Williams’ 2023 Season Highlights

 

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