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October 14, 2014 at 2:31 am #9615znModerator
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* I know he won’t but I really wish Fisher would play that video [of the Cook call] for the media and openly question the motives of the ref. That is inexcusable and could be argued as costing us the win.
* 19 points per game. That’s the number of points we’ve averaged UNANSWERED over the past 3 games. 19 freaking points in each game ON AVERAGE without the opponent scoring. And yet we managed to lose every single game. This team puts together stretches of not just competence but dominance. You have to have talent to do that. So why aren’t we winning? This is by far the weakest team mentally in the NFL. When we have a horrendous call against us or make a horrendous mistake, this team just lets it snowball. They don’t say eff it and forget it. They completely implode. The whole team just seemed utterly defeated in the 2nd half. That’s attitude.
* Davis. I’ve seen franchise QBs have worse games when they got hit like Davis. Overreacts to pressure at times for sure. Too reliant on scrambling for sure. But he stood in numerous times and made throws in the face of the blitz while getting clobbered. I would like to see better manipulation of the pocket rather than him trying to scramble towards the sideline but the guys on offense need to pick up the stunts and blitzes. Our right side of the OL struggled mightily today…as did the HBs, FBs, and TEs in picking up pressure. I gotta hope that Saffold and Barksdale struggled due to lack of chemistry and that it’ll get ironed out. He still made some plays and throws in this game that were just “wow” worthy. I want to see whether he can improve…he’s essentially a rookie. He’s a bit over-aggressive at times but using your check-down usually is something that comes with experience. Thus far, the results are mixed…but not bad.
* Trust me, I’m as angry as anyone but there was one big positive from that game. We saw almost all our rookies in action and they did not disappoint.
Greg Robinson definitely is raw. He had some issues with the blitz and stunts but that’ll come with experience. He absolutely man-handled Justin Smith on some plays and stone-walled him numerous times in pass pro. This kid faced a top 5 3-4 DE in the NFL and gave him next to nothing. As frustrated as we have all been with his development, the kid looks like a future star at OG AT WORST. But if the range and kick-slide are there on the edge, he can be a dominating LT.
Aaron Donald still is working on his pass rushing but the guy was an absolute force in the run game. He had to have blown up at least 4-5 plays in that game behind the LOS and made numerous tackles at or behind the LOS. He was giving the 49ers OL fits all game and would have sacked Kaepernick on the TD pass if not for a blatant hold after he whooped the 49ers OL off the ball. Donald is a future star.
LaMarcus Joyner just played his best game as a pro. I don’t recall any major lapses in coverage and the guy was unbelievable on special teams. He was unstoppable as a gunner. I’m telling you, this kid needs to play FS. His pursuit angles, open-field tackling, and ability to fly to the ball are second to none. I don’t know why we won’t flip him and McLeod. McLeod is a better slot CB. Joyner is a better FS.
Tre Mason might just be a keeper. I had been pining for Todd Gurley lately but after seeing Mason run today, I might just rethink that. The guy needs to learn how to pass block. That’s huge. But anyone that saw him run today had to be impressed. Stacy was clearly hurt and had no burst at all. It was a really good contrast watching Mason and Stacy run. Mason just had so much more explosiveness and the guy runs with serious determination. He ran through two 49ers to get the first down on that catch early in the game and I saw him carry 3-4 49ers on his back on another run while driving his legs to pick up extra yardage. Once we get his pass protection issues out of the way, I really like Mason’s potential. He’s quick to the hole, he’s decisive and he runs hard. Plus, he might have had a long TD run if not for him trying to truck Quick.
And last but not least, E.J. Gaines played another strong game. I know he gave up a TD to Crabtree but you gotta tip your hat to the route he ran on that play. Gaines really had no chance on an island. However, he nearly picked off an early pass, made a bunch of nice tackles in space, and he made a couple nice plays on the football. Gaines really looks like a steal. Janoris better get it together or else he might lose his starting job. I tend not to agree with some on Jenkins, he’s been a stud for us this year…but today, he was atrocious. There was no excuse for him to gamble on that long TD to Lloyd. If he continues to make selfish plays like that, Gaines will take his job.
On a final note, I’ll also say that I think Tavon Austin played really well today. Some of you might disagree but I thought he really came out and made the most of every chance he was given. I don’t think he’s far from that corner if the Rams give him a chance to turn it.
October 14, 2014 at 2:33 am #9616MackeyserModeratorI agreed with him. I think he’s right on…
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October 14, 2014 at 10:26 am #9675znModeratorthehammer
Austin “can’t hit the curveball” Davis
for the season under pressure -5.2 no pressure 1.8
now rated 30 out of 38 qb’s per pff…
his future rides on his ability to play under pressure…gave him a 4 game window..flunked the 1st game. Has to audible out of those blitzes/pressure and find his hot reads or bring on Case Keenum or Hill
Robinson +1.3 in his 1st start..that number will only go up as he gets experience..Donald was +1.5 and now 5th-74 dt’s…smallish Tre Mason was a -.9 in pass pro..right now only Stacy can pass block. Kendricks was an awful -3.1 vs SF and now 41-60 at te
Harkey is dead last at fb 23-23 but good at te 25-108 at te
Long 35/72 ot now after 2 miserable -1.9 games back to back
people talked about Warner vs Austin, the real number is Rams were 5-0 in Warners 1st 5 games and 1-4 in Davis’s..4 starts and played 2nd half vs Minn. 13-0 at half in a still winnable game but outscored 21-6 in 2nd under Davis. We all love Davis enthusiasm and energy but has to play better..people forget Bradford made players like Amendola, Gibson, Mark Clayton, Danario Alexander, Chris Givens and Brandon Lloyd look good..only Danario put up similar numbers playing elsewhere
good news was Barnes played in 2 snaps..can’t be worse then Wells..dead last at center..
Quinn been dominated by both Tyron Smith and Staley..anyone explain why he isn’t being moved around to take advantage of better matchups? Just don’t understand the lack of urgency by this coaching staff to make obvious changes
October 14, 2014 at 3:22 pm #9699znModeratorJim Fadler @jimiramsboy
If D’Marco Farr held up on the interior then Aaron Donald can hold up also….play the kids #GoRamsJim Fadler @ jimiramsboy
Last year in the playoffs I noticed that Kaep would look to his #1 and then pull it down, that has continued this year.Jim Fadler @ jimiramsboy
Harkey missed early but threw the key block on Benny’s TD #RamsJim Fadler @ jimiramsboy
Austin Davis play fakes and ball handling are vastly superior to Sam’s….and I started that before the TDJim Fadler @ jimiramsboy
You could clearly see the ball when Sam play faked, and he didn’t quite sell it enough…..Davis really does it #GoRamsJim Fadler @ jimiramsboy
On numerous running plays Austin Davis still sells it as if he still has the ball….followed him twice on the last drive. #HiddenThingsJim Fadler @ jimiramsboy
Austin Davis hangs in there so tough on 3rd down conversions…has a great sense of how far he needs…seldom completes short.Jim Fadler @ jimiramsboy
Where the hell was the safety and once again Jenkins peeks into the backfieldJim Fadler @ jimiramsboy
When a team throws quick 3 step drops the Dtackles have to stay in their lanes and get their arms up. #Rams are failing on bothJim Fadler @ jimiramsboy
Dtackles swinging way too wide on their rush…still way too much room in the middle of the 49er pocketJim Fadler @ jimiramsboy
Rams persisting in blitzing schemes that don’t workJim Fadler @ jimiramsboy
I have thought for some time now that due to the #Rams rep for silly penalties the zebras don’t give any benefit of doubt….And will throw flags without the slightest hesitation….like on Cook last night. Are they even watching Quinn being held?
And you would think with Fisher being on the competition committee it would be the opposite…flags have followed him everywhere
Jim Fadler @ jimiramsboy
I have come here to kick ass and fix the #Rams….and I am fresh out of ideas to fix the Rams…#WhatToDo?October 14, 2014 at 5:30 pm #9707cgsuddeathParticipantJim Fadler @jimiramsboy
If D’Marco Farr held up on the interior then Aaron Donald can hold up also….play the kids #GoRamsJim Fadler @ jimiramsboy
Last year in the playoffs I noticed that Kaep would look to his #1 and then pull it down, that has continued this year.Jim Fadler @ jimiramsboy
Harkey missed early but threw the key block on Benny’s TD #RamsJim Fadler @ jimiramsboy
Austin Davis play fakes and ball handling are vastly superior to Sam’s….and I started that before the TDJim Fadler @ jimiramsboy
You could clearly see the ball when Sam play faked, and he didn’t quite sell it enough…..Davis really does it #GoRamsJim Fadler @ jimiramsboy
On numerous running plays Austin Davis still sells it as if he still has the ball….followed him twice on the last drive. #HiddenThingsJim Fadler @ jimiramsboy
Austin Davis hangs in there so tough on 3rd down conversions…has a great sense of how far he needs…seldom completes short.Jim Fadler @ jimiramsboy
Where the hell was the safety and once again Jenkins peeks into the backfieldJim Fadler @ jimiramsboy
When a team throws quick 3 step drops the Dtackles have to stay in their lanes and get their arms up. #Rams are failing on bothJim Fadler @ jimiramsboy
Dtackles swinging way too wide on their rush…still way too much room in the middle of the 49er pocketJim Fadler @ jimiramsboy
Rams persisting in blitzing schemes that don’t workJim Fadler @ jimiramsboy
I have thought for some time now that due to the #Rams rep for silly penalties the zebras don’t give any benefit of doubt….And will throw flags without the slightest hesitation….like on Cook last night. Are they even watching Quinn being held?
And you would think with Fisher being on the competition committee it would be the opposite…flags have followed him everywhere
Jim Fadler @ jimiramsboy
I have come here to kick ass and fix the #Rams….and I am fresh out of ideas to fix the Rams…#WhatToDo?Sorry but I don’t agree one bit with Fadler’s analysis of Bradford.It’s really obvious who the better quarterback is and it’s Bradford.
October 18, 2014 at 9:47 pm #9892znModeratoralyoshamucci
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The Psychology of losing. It’s not a joke. It’s not an easy thing to correct. Belichick was with the Browns for how many years?First off, the idea of dumping Fisher is out of the question. Besides the fact that he is one of the best coaches out there with an unreal talent staff below him, he was likely hired because he is the only coach that has successfully moved a team form one city to another. This looks more and more likely to happen. And soon. I don’t know too many coaches that can keep guys focused through losing, and bad calls, and coaching changes, and devastating injuries.
When was the last time a team let their franchise QB in back to back years?
These are excuses. They are not wins. But given what we’ve been dealt I’m happy with a few things, and realistically frightened about a few others, and I’m going to deal withb theta before AI get into the good, the bad, and the ugly.
Losing hurts. It takes serious fortitude to overcome losing, because morale is such a huge part of performance. Having no fans in the crowd, the ESPN commentators talk about how we’re going to move back to LA after 9 abysmal seasons did not kill his. Having the entire city’s focus on the baseball series going on did not. Being made fun of for our ONE sack all year didn’t.
But when Cook got the bogus PI we were reminded of the reffing abominations we’ve dealt with, and then we got sloppy, and Jenks gave up a ridiculous TD. Absolutely unacceptable.Then, after the reffing and TD, added to the lack of fans, and energy, we simply did not have enough juice to do anything but flap like a dead fish on the floor of a fishing boat for 90 minutes. That and have some pretty stout run D.
The hope I have is that we have some good strong leaders who do not get down. That is why we sign C Long and J Lau. They don’t ever stop. But they are not enough. The psychology of losing is strong. How long does each player have before they are mentally damaged by losing in the way we do, without support, on a team that may move?
I don’t believe Bradford was that strong. Never did. He sinks his head. Our WRs got a boost from Britt, but how long does that last? Cook gets lost for entire games because of his mood. Donald is a freak energizer bunny, how long does that last? Jenkins obviously is affected by our record and the futility, which is why even though he’s a played well, we may want to pull him when true gets back. McDonald I trust. Barksdale too.We have a team that is basically prone to mood swings and in need of some kind of stability. But we are in the middle of a desert with little to no support. We have to keep adding players that love the game so much that they can stay focused when everything, that is everything goes wrong. I don’t see us as having too many of those players. We have moody talent.
Looking at infusing free agents and draft picks that have a bit more fortitude so that we can build a nucleus that understands the situation the franchise is in and is inspired to be pat of the story rather than easily distracted by it’s theme. We are losers trying to become winners. Its not easy.
The Good
1). G Rob!!!! Just a preview of what he’s going OT do the rest of the year and at OLT next year. I’m pretty happy about that. He walled Justin Smith off.
2). The Goal Line stand. Made the game worth watching in the second half.
3). Some really good playcalling starting off.
4). Really great run defense. I can’t remember a game where we held so close to the LOS.
5). McLeod is inspiring.
6). Gaines is playing a really tough position as a 6th round draft pick. Wow. I think Jenks slides to the slot when Tru gets back.
7) Donald in the backfield.
8). Mason’s fresh legs have to be taken into account. Great burst. He should NOT be in often in passing situations, but give him the ball early in the game and see what he can do.
9). Ogletree seemed more active and understanding of the game plan and run fits.
The Confusing.
10). Quinn didn’t take a bull rush or inside move all game that I saw. Just ran outside the whole time, did anyone else see that?
11). Why wasn’t Mason in more? Stacy was obviously not seeing the game right.
12). What kind of coverage on the 80 yard TD leaves a possible deep man running free? Was there supposed to be safety help?
13). What blitzing style were they doing that made Davis so skittish? He looked confused all night.
The Bad
14). Austin Davis freaked. No idea why. He stopped looking for intermediate passes and check downs like we were behind by 30, when we were down by 3.
15). Cook obviously losing his focus after the bad call, which then spread throughout the receiver corps.
The Ugly
16). Our pass rush. I think it’s Chris Long’s absence personally. Hayes seems to have hit a wall. So, if you’re going against us, you simply slide everyone left. That leaves little to no gap in Quinn’s side of the line, forcing him outside more often than not, and allowing the OLT to take a confident wide set against him rather than having to pay him straight up. But I think the wide set is exhausting him. That’s because of there being ZERO DE pressure form the other side. That’s my 2 cents.
Gonna do my draft perspective soon . . like later today
17). Jenks jumping a route in THAT situation.
18). Jake Long giving up sack strip fumbles in back to back weeks.
19). The lack of attendance or energy in the building.
20). The lack of understanding for the awful situation Fisher is in. We have to do better as fans.
Fisher took on this team because he’d get control of personnel, and because he loved Bradford. He has had three drafts, two with his own scouts in place. For a normal situation, this would be the time when the coach should start getting hammered for losses.But THIS IS NOT A NORMAL SITUATION. We are playing with our third string QB. We are getting into a new DC and have lost the heart of our D line. We have the youngest team in the NFL, again. But this is not even CLOSE to the whole situation.
We are the worst franchise in the NFL. This is the truth. Im not counting the Jags, they dont have a history, they weren’t even born when we started getting bad. We have 5 good years going back the last 25. That centered around 5 HOF players. Bruce, Holt, Faulk, Warner, and Pace.
Those years were the exception, and as fans we seem to think they are the rule.
We were gifted a dynasty, findign Warner was DUMB LUCK. Its like we won the lottery and thought we had EARNED the money. It doesnt make any sense. we were so bad at running football operations in the front office that we actually dismantled that lottery winning like a drunk would wittle away his winnings at the track because he forgot he hadnt earned the money and that it was a finite amount. Warner leaves an the team crumbles in TWO years.
We JUST got a new owner, and we have the worst fans in the country. We are a team that is likely about to move and uproot all of its players. We have more odds stacked against us than any other team except the Raiders. But they, and the Browns at least both have good fans.
We can turn our blame on anyone, but the really sad part that we have the ability to face as fans should we choose to do so, is that it isn’t anyone’s fault. The Rams are not well supported. When we look at the Titans and Jags, not well supported. Fisher and Coughlin are the only two coaches to do anything with those teams. Fisher is a great coach, and after Lineman I’m really happy to have him. I assumed before he got control that he would need 5 years. I am not sad with his progress. We can be whatever type of fans we want to be, I’m going to be supportive.
October 18, 2014 at 9:48 pm #9893znModeratoralyoshamucci
The Good
1). G Rob!!!! Just a preview of what he’s going OT do the rest of the year and at OLT next year. I’m pretty happy about that. He walled Justin Smith off.
2). The Goal Line stand. Made the game worth watching in the second half.
3). Some really good playcalling starting off.
4). Really great run defense. I can’t remember a game where we held so close to the LOS.
5). McLeod is inspiring.
6). Gaines is playing a really tough position as a 6th round draft pick. Wow. I think Jenks slides to the slot when Tru gets back.
7) Donald in the backfield.
8). Mason’s fresh legs have to be taken into account. Great burst. He should NOT be in often in passing situations, but give him the ball early in the game and see what he can do.
9). Ogletree seemed more active and understanding of the game plan and run fits.
The Confusing.
10). Quinn didn’t take a bull rush or inside move all game that I saw. Just ran outside the whole time, did anyone else see that?
11). Why wasn’t Mason in more? Stacy was obviously not seeing the game right.
12). What kind of coverage on the 80 yard TD leaves a possible deep man running free? Was there supposed to be safety help?
13). What blitzing style were they doing that made Davis so skittish? He looked confused all night.
The Bad
14). Austin Davis freaked. No idea why. He stopped looking for intermediate passes and check downs like we were behind by 30, when we were down by 3.
15). Cook obviously losing his focus after the bad call, which then spread throughout the receiver corps.
The Ugly
16). Our pass rush. I think it’s Chris Long’s absence personally. Hayes seems to have hit a wall. So, if you’re going against us, you simply slide everyone left. That leaves little to no gap in Quinn’s side of the line, forcing him outside more often than not, and allowing the OLT to take a confident wide set against him rather than having to pay him straight up. But I think the wide set is exhausting him. That’s because of there being ZERO DE pressure form the other side. That’s my 2 cents.
Gonna do my draft perspective soon . . like later today
17). Jenks jumping a route in THAT situation.
18). Jake Long giving up sack strip fumbles in back to back weeks.
19). The lack of attendance or energy in the building.
20). The lack of understanding for the awful situation Fisher is in. We have to do better as fans.
Fisher took on this team because he’d get control of personnel, and because he loved Bradford. He has had three drafts, two with his own scouts in place. For a normal situation, this would be the time when the coach should start getting hammered for losses.But THIS IS NOT A NORMAL SITUATION. We are playing with our third string QB. We are getting into a new DC and have lost the heart of our D line. We have the youngest team in the NFL, again. But this is not even CLOSE to the whole situation.
We are the worst franchise in the NFL. This is the truth. Im not counting the Jags, they dont have a history, they weren’t even born when we started getting bad. We have 5 good years going back the last 25. That centered around 5 HOF players. Bruce, Holt, Faulk, Warner, and Pace.
Those years were the exception, and as fans we seem to think they are the rule.
We were gifted a dynasty, findign Warner was DUMB LUCK. Its like we won the lottery and thought we had EARNED the money. It doesnt make any sense. we were so bad at running football operations in the front office that we actually dismantled that lottery winning like a drunk would wittle away his winnings at the track because he forgot he hadnt earned the money and that it was a finite amount. Warner leaves an the team crumbles in TWO years.
We JUST got a new owner, and we have the worst fans in the country. We are a team that is likely about to move and uproot all of its players. We have more odds stacked against us than any other team except the Raiders. But they, and the Browns at least both have good fans.
We can turn our blame on anyone, but the really sad part that we have the ability to face as fans should we choose to do so, is that it isn’t anyone’s fault. The Rams are not well supported. When we look at the Titans and Jags, not well supported. Fisher and Coughlin are the only two coaches to do anything with those teams. Fisher is a great coach, and after Lineman I’m really happy to have him. I assumed before he got control that he would need 5 years. I am not sad with his progress. We can be whatever type of fans we want to be, I’m going to be supportive.
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