If Davis plays well against Dallas, is he the starter?

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  • September 19, 2014 at 4:03 pm #7909
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    Strange season. We are now debating the differences between Shaun Hill and Austin Davis, and asking which of them can best take advantage of the prolific Brian Quick.

    And wondering how they can get the running game going.

    Plus trying to figure out what is wrong with the Rams front 7.

    If anyone predicted ALL of those things weeks ago, before the preseason, the rest of us would quite rightly recommend you get on some kind of meds. And I mean we would be saying that now, not then. Cause being right about that could only have been a strange fluke. null

    September 19, 2014 at 4:28 pm #7911
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    I will go with Hill. But, I don’t think it makes a whole heck of a lot of difference. Who do the players respond to, better?

    Agamemnon

    September 19, 2014 at 6:35 pm #7947
    GreatRamNTheSky
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    I think this is a crossroads game in a sense for Davis as he has an opportunity to really solidify himself int he minds of Fisher and the other coaches and the players if he really comes through.

    Honestly, just my 2 cents worth but Fisher is being stupid by standing by Hill. Hill just does not have the pedigree to be an NFL starter. If he did, then he would have been a starting QB in this league long before this.

    There is more upside to playing Davis and its more exciting to play Davis.

    Hill will not be on the team in 2015.

    Grits

    September 19, 2014 at 7:56 pm #7955
    Herzog
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    I’m with GRITS

    September 19, 2014 at 8:27 pm #7956
    TSRF
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    H, you say you’re with GRITS, but you don’t look happy about it.

    I can understand why.

    GRITS, I thought you were nuts when you said prior to Week 1 that Davis was better than Hill, but then we had last week. I must admit, I thought that Davis was going to lose out in camp and Hill was going to be the clear starter once Sam went down, but here we are.

    I think the Fisher King is old school, and in his mind, players don’t lose their jobs because of injury, and if he wavers from that, he’d be in danger of losing the locker room. Hence all the coach talk.

    It may get to the point that if Hill isn’t 99.92% healthy, Davis starts.

    Once Hill gets to 100% though…

    September 19, 2014 at 10:21 pm #7967
    Mackeyser
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    Would you be happy to be with GRITS? His helmet smells like feet?

    (KIDDING!!! :D:D:D:D:D:D )

    Sports is the crucible of human virtue. The distillate remains are human vice.

    September 20, 2014 at 11:33 am #7998
    GreatRamNTheSky
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    TSRF, thinking Grits is nuts or doesn’t know what he’s talking about seems to be a fallacy that has plagued various Rams boards.
    I’m not always right but I’m not always wrong either.

    I will say that in most cases, in my mind at least I have a good reason for stating what I do. Davis has shown ability since he arrived in 2012. Why most fans cannot see that is beyond me. Maybe because we all assumed that Bradford was the guy and Bradford should have been the guy except for the injuries unfortunately. I’m sure you have heard the story of Lou Gherig and Wally Pipp. Well in this case Hill may be Wally Pipp and Davis is Gherig.

    Grits

    September 20, 2014 at 11:44 am #8000
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    Why most fans cannot see that is beyond me.

    Because we saw other things. As is usually the case with these discussions, there was a lot more going on than “who was right when.”

    All IMO but, Davis didn’t have it together before this summer. I mean–he got cut last year, and no one picked him up (Miami for a day) and that is in a qb starved league. Year three seemed to have worked for him as much as it did for Quick, so he really is better than the Vikes game (where he basically got himself sacked and that’s according to HIM) and is capable of the Bux game (where he was poised, and, as he said, sticking with the rhythm of the offense, when NOT doing that got him killed against Minn.)

    He was bad before. And he would not be the first young qb who had athletic ability but could not put it together at the NFL level. But,so far anyway, he defied the odds and DID get it together.

    Though he does limit the offense. Ironically, Schott worked all summer on restoring a strong medium passing game, plus continuing to set up big play action deep passes, and now, they may have to actually come up with a WCO style ball control passing game for Davis.

    So anyway while you had faith in him and get credit for that, most of the time, he let you down. But, bless him, he took a 3rd year leap in competence, and luckily enough, did it exactly the same time Brian Quick made HIS leap–and that’s lucky for Davis because Quick is the perfect receiver for him.

    September 20, 2014 at 12:06 pm #8001
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    I’m still very skeptical about Austin D,
    and it would not surprise me to see
    Casey Austin ‘Case’ Keenum
    starting by game 8.

    But, if Austin D puts together
    a good game against Dallas,
    (which i am not expecting)
    then yeah, i might be in favor
    of starting him for a while.
    Just to see. Hill can always
    come in if he needs to.

    w
    v

    • This reply was modified 10 years, 2 months ago by Avatar photowv.
    September 20, 2014 at 4:32 pm #8018
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    wv wrote:

    I’m still very skeptical about Austin D,
    and it would not surprise me to see
    Casey Austin ‘Case’ Keenum
    starting by game 8.

    But, if Austin D puts together
    a good game against Dallas,
    (which i am not expecting)
    then yeah, i might be in favor
    of starting him for a while.
    Just to see. Hill can always
    come in if he needs to.

    w
    v

    I saw a great accidental pun on the internet. Someone talking about Davis. They said, “he doesn’t have to have a canon arm.”

    That sums it up. Not just “cannon” as in explosive, but “canon” as in classic.

    Actually I don’t agree. I think it helps a lot when a qb has that.

    Or they can have a pretty good arm, like Bulger, combined with a very quick release. So you get velocity.

    Or they can have an okay arm, like Hill, combined with sneaky smart quick decision-making skills.

    I will say that Davis looks more accurate in the 11-20 yard range than Clemens did.

    But after a while, defenses figure you out, and at that point, you need to have something to give them pause.

    Maybe with both Hill and Davis, they will benefit from the team finally having receivers who can “make the qb look good” even if the qb doesn’t have a canon arm and canon accuracy. Guys like Britt, Quick, Pettis, and Bailey have that “snatch it if it’s somewhere nearby” thing going. Even Cook is starting to be that way.

    September 20, 2014 at 4:38 pm #8020
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    zn wrote:

    ….But after a while, defenses figure you out,
    and at that point, you need to have something to give them pause.

    Exactly.

    He’s accurate which is great, but man
    that looks like a popgun arm to me.
    On the bomb that Quick dropped it looked
    like Austin D really loaded up and heaved it.
    It looked like it took everything he had
    to make that throw.

    I’d like to take Bradford’s arm and
    torso and attach them to Austin D’s
    knees.

    I dunno. Maybe Davis will be a Montana.
    We’ll see.

    w
    v

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