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    nittany ram
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    #58277
    bnw
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    Yes the adults will be in charge.

    The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.

    Sprinkles are for winners.

    #58293
    Zooey
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    The future of the planet sacrificed in exchange for an empty promise to return manufacturing jobs to the US, a promise he couldn’t keep even if he wanted to.

    Oh, well.

    Hey. What do you know/think about this report I just read the other day that says there are 100 million TONS of chemical weapons in the ocean (mostly from WWII) that are now starting to leak because rust has made its way through their containers?

    The article didn’t assess how bad the damage would be. I will see if I can find it.

    #58295
    Zooey
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    #58296
    bnw
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    The future of the planet sacrificed in exchange for an empty promise to return manufacturing jobs to the US, a promise he couldn’t keep even if he wanted to.

    Oh, well.

    Hey. What do you know/think about this report I just read the other day that says there are 100 million TONS of chemical weapons in the ocean (mostly from WWII) that are now starting to leak because rust has made its way through their containers?

    The article didn’t assess how bad the damage would be. I will see if I can find it.

    I think wv posted the article today. I commented on it. BTW none of that is Trump’s fault.

    I just checked and I can’t find my response nor the thread. Spooky.

    • This reply was modified 7 years, 10 months ago by bnw.

    The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.

    Sprinkles are for winners.

    #58310
    wv
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    Noam on Trump:https://zcomm.org/znetarticle/trump-in-the-white-house/

    Noam Chomsky: Before turning to this question, I think it is important to spend a few moments pondering just what happened on November 8, a date that might turn out to be one of the most important in human history, depending on how we react.

    No exaggeration.

    The most important news of November 8 was barely noted, a fact of some significance in itself.

    On November 8, the World Meteorological Organization delivered a report at the international conference on climate change in Morocco, COP22, which was called in order to carry forward the Paris agreements of COP21. The WMO reported that the past five years were the hottest on record. It reported rising sea levels, soon to increase as a result of the unexpectedly rapid melting of polar ice, most ominously the huge Antarctic glaciers. Already Arctic sea ice over the past five years is 28 percent below the average of the previous 29 years, not only raising sea levels but also reducing the cooling effect of polar ice reflection of solar rays, thereby accelerating the grim effects of global warming. The WMO reported further that temperatures are approaching dangerously close to the goal established by COP21, along with other dire reports and forecasts.

    Another event took place on November 8, which also may turn out to be of unusual historical significance for reasons that, once again, were barely noted.

    On November 8, the most powerful country in world history, which will set its stamp on what comes next, had an election. The outcome placed total control of the government – the executive, Congress, the Supreme Court – in the hands of the Republican Party, the most dangerous organization in world history.

    Apart from the last phrase, all of this is uncontroversial. The last phrase may seem outlandish, even outrageous. But is it? The facts suggest otherwise. The Party is dedicated to racing as rapidly as possible to destruction of organized human life. There is no historical precedent for such a stand.

    Is this an exaggeration? Consider what we have just been witnessing…see link

    #58316
    Mackeyser
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    That’s funny, bnw

    I mean, the Insurance industry doesn’t argue Climate Catastrophe. They sent the state of Florida into a PANIC earlier this year because they rezoned the state’s flood zones.

    Why?

    Climate Change.

    So, while they still spend money to elect guys who SAY they don’t believe in it, when it comes to their Risk Assessment business, they KNOW not only that Climate Change is real, but they have actuarial tables that are telling them that the risk requires further mitigation in the form of higher premiums and that more homes are in the “DANGER ZONE”.

    You can ignore a problem all you want. I nearly died doing that, so I’m kinda an expert at ignoring a problem until it’s (almost) too late.

    And no, no amount of posting facts, articles or peer-reviewed science journals will change your mind.

    But… as it all goes down… the truth will be undeniable. Well, presuming the dogma isn’t so strong that it overwhelms your free thought. I dunno. That’s to be seen on this subject.

    Sports is the crucible of human virtue. The distillate remains are human vice.

    #58335
    bnw
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    That’s funny, bnw

    I mean, the Insurance industry doesn’t argue Climate Catastrophe. They sent the state of Florida into a PANIC earlier this year because they rezoned the state’s flood zones.

    Why?

    Climate Change.

    So, while they still spend money to elect guys who SAY they don’t believe in it, when it comes to their Risk Assessment business, they KNOW not only that Climate Change is real, but they have actuarial tables that are telling them that the risk requires further mitigation in the form of higher premiums and that more homes are in the “DANGER ZONE”.

    You can ignore a problem all you want. I nearly died doing that, so I’m kinda an expert at ignoring a problem until it’s (almost) too late.

    And no, no amount of posting facts, articles or peer-reviewed science journals will change your mind.

    But… as it all goes down… the truth will be undeniable. Well, presuming the dogma isn’t so strong that it overwhelms your free thought. I dunno. That’s to be seen on this subject.

    Any business that can make money off peoples irrational fears will do so. Isn’t that the very basis of the insurance industry?

    Yes the truth will be undeniable. For the last 65 million years the earth has been on a definite cooling trend. Easy money for insurance companies.

    BTW I bumped the thread I posted that is very much in line with my “free thought” as well as “peer reviewed since journals”. Read it. I dare you. It gives my take and that of a majority of like professionals I know regarding the issue of man made global warming. So much for that scientific consensus.

    • This reply was modified 7 years, 10 months ago by bnw.

    The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.

    Sprinkles are for winners.

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