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That sounds like they are talking about Cleveland, not the Rams. imo
It looks like Favre vs Rogers. Wouldn’t we rather have Wentz?
Agamemnon<span class=”d4pbbc-font-color” style=”color: blue”>That sounds like they are talking about Cleveland, not the Rams. imo</span>
<span class=”d4pbbc-font-color” style=”color: blue”>It looks like Favre vs Rogers. Wouldn’t we rather have Wentz?</span>
Well Rivers has a no-trade clause, and I kinda doubt
he agree to go to Cleveland, though who knows.No, I’d rather have three years of Rivers
than a decade of Wentz. With Rivers i think the
Rams are immediately a super-bowl-threat.w
vThat sounds like they are talking about Cleveland, not the Rams.
It looks like Favre vs Rogers. Wouldn’t we rather have Wentz?
i fear wentz won’t be available anymore unless the rams trade up.
Well Rivers has a no-trade clause, and I kinda doubt
he agree to go to Cleveland, though who knows.No, I’d rather have three years of Rivers
than a decade of Wentz. With Rivers i think the
Rams are immediately a super-bowl-threat.w
vI guess GRITS will have to settle this. 😉
Agamemnoni don’t know. i doubt spanos would ever want to help kroenke out in any way ever.
Well Spanos might be misguided,
like Ag,
and he might prefer Wentz.w
vi think he’d shop him to every other team in the league before he’d consider a trade with the rams.
haha. but yeah. i’d trade a first rounder for rivers.
2016 Senior Bowl: Monday Rumor Mill
By Charlie Campbell – @draftcampbell
With all the general managers, coaches and scouts in attendance for the Senior Bowl, there is a lot of chatter going around. Here are some of the highlights from the rumor mill on Day 1.
One area scout of a team picking in the top 10 that doesn’t need a quarterback was gushing over North Dakota State quarterback Carson Wentz. The team has given him a first-round grade and thinks that Wentz is the real deal. They say that Wentz has a good arm, size and athleticism, and they love him off the field. They like his pocket presence, field vision, experience under center, making play calls in the huddle, and potential to grow in the NFL. The scout said that he will fill out his frame in a NFL strength and conditioning program. That area scout said the big challenge for Wentz will be the drastic change in the speed of the game coming from North Dakota State’s opponents compared to the NFL. This week at the Senior Bowl could vault Wentz high in the first round.
How high? Extremely high. In speaking with sources at the Browns, Wentz is definitely in play with Cleveland. He’s viewed as a first-rounder despite a small sample size of starts in college. Sources say the Browns really like Wentz. There are some who believe that Wentz is the best quarterback prospect and they say the only reason why Wentz isn’t the consensus No. 1 quarterback is the helmet he wears (i.e. coming from a small school). Assuming the Browns move on from Johnny Manziel and draft a quarterback, it sounds like they are focused on Wentz or Cal quarterback Jared Goff. Both are rated ahead of Memphis’ Paxton Lynch, and Wentz could be the early lean.
Sources from one team picking high in the first round that is in the market for defensive back with their top selection said that Ohio State cornerback Eli Apple is behind Florida’s Vernon Hargreaves and Florida State’s Jalen Ramsey. Those evaluators say that Apple has a lot of talent with size and speed, but happens to be very raw. They say he is very “handsy” with receivers downfield and is always grabbing at them while they run their routes. They feel that until Apple is developed and coached up, he is going to get flagged a lot. It is understandable that Apple is a work in progress considering he is only a redshirt sophomore. Now, all that being said, other teams could disagree, as we’ve documented that there are some wide ranges in the draft grade of Ramsey.
Sources with multiple teams told WalterFootball.com that Florida’s Keanu Neal could be in the running to be the first safety selected, if you count Florida State’s Jalen Ramsey as a cornerback. Neal has impressed teams with his combination of size and speed. A team picking high in the second round that could consider a safety said that there is the possibility that Neal could go in the late first. They believe he is going to be a Combine standout who could become a hot prospect. Teams also really like Neal off the field.
Team sources say that it is wide open to figure out who is the top safety prospect. West Virginia’s Karl Joseph is really liked by teams, but he’s coming off a season-ending injury. Thus, Neal could be the first true safety drafted.
Sources with multiple teams have been extremely critical of Penn State head coach James Franklin and his handling of quarterback Christian Hackeneberg. Just to be clear, none of these sources are with the Houston Texans. They say that Franklin was a terrible coach for Hackenberg. These sources have known Franklin for years and feel he is responsible for a lot of the problems with Hackenberg. Franklin tore down Hackenberg and hurt his confidence. They say that Franklin is a rah-rah type of coach who showed a lot of favoritism toward the players he brought to Penn State over the players he inherited from Bill O’Brien and Joe Paterno. On top of Franklin’s poor handling, Hackenberg was sacked 103 times in his 38 collegiate games with the vast majority of those sacks coming in the two seasons with Franklin. The offensive line was pathetic, but teams feel that Franklin set up Hackenberg for some failure because he tried to fit a square peg into a round hole from a scheme perspective. They feel a good coach would have adapted their scheme to Hackenberg and the other pro-style players O’Brien cultivated. They say that Franklin never embraced Hackenbarg as his guy to lead the program.
The sources from these teams already have franchise quarterbacks and were just calling it like they see it. They believe that Hackenberg could get selected on Day 2. Some around the believe still think that Hackenberg could go late in the first round because there are so many teams that are utterly desperate to land a franchise quarterback.
One quarterback who made a huge mistake in not taking part in the Senior Bowl was Michigan State’s Connor Cook. Teams have really soured on Cook, on the field and off of it. At the East-West Shrine, I caught up with Michigan State linebacker Darien Harris and asked him about Cook not being voted a team captain.
“He was a captain whether he had the title or not,” said Harris. “He was a leader on the team. I love him like a brother as does the rest of the team and the coaching staff. We wouldn’t have been as successful as we were without Connor Cook under center.”
I also asked Harris if there was any truth to the talk that Cook was a bad teammate and disliked in the locker room.
“Not at all. I don’t buy any of that. I feel like as he is my brother and he is family to me, I feel like it is my obligation to try and kill some of that noise. Hopefully I’ve been able to do that by getting people to understand that inside that locker room we loved him. He was the best quarterback in the country. No doubt about it.”
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Agamemnon2016 Senior Bowl Rumor Mill
This is Charlie Campbell’s Tuesday 2016 Senior Bowl Rumor Mill. Charlie is reporting live from Mobile, Ala., and he’ll describe what he sees at practice and whom certain prospects talk to all week.
If you want to see other 2016 Senior Bowl Reports, click the link.
Follow me @walterfootball for updates, and stay tuned all week for tons of 2016 Senior Bowl coverage.
2016 Senior Bowl: Tuesday Rumor Mill
By Charlie Campbell – @draftcampbell
With all the general managers, coaches and scouts in attendance for the Senior Bowl, there is a lot of chatter going around. Here are some of the highlights from the rumor mill on Day 2.
Sources with a team picking in the top 10 say that the top four players on their draft board would be Ole Miss left tackle Laremy Tunsil, UCLA linebacker Myles Jack, Notre Dame linebacker Jaylon Smith, and Florida State cornerback/safety Jalen Ramsey. That is how their board would stack up if Jack and Smith didn’t suffer their knee tears. Obviously, this team loves Ramsey. There have been multiple other teams that have told WalterFootball.com that they have a second-round grade on Ramsey. Thus, there is a huge debate on the Seminole product. Across the board, there is nothing but consensus love for Tunsil, Jack, and Smith.
Scouts say that Alabama defensive tackle A’Shawn Robinson is a freak athlete with rare size and speed, but the knock on him is a lack of consistency. They say that if he had played consistently in college, he would be a candidate to go No. 1 overall to Tennessee. Robinson has a rare combination of strength, speed and athleticism. Teams feel that Robinson will be a three-down defender in his career and can contribute to the pass rush. After the Combine, don’t be surprised if Robinson becomes a hot prospect.
Some teams expect Alabama defensive tackle Jarran Reed to go in the top 20. They say he is a good athlete who is a solid defender. They love Reed’s run defense and feel some team will want him to be their nose tackle. Teams feel that Reed has quickness and speed to develop into a three-down player, but at least early on, if not throughout his career, he could be coming off the field in passing situations and be limited to a two-down defender role. Thus, they expect Robinson to go ahead of Reed.
It sounds like one prospect who made a mistake in entering the draft early was LSU Jerald Hawkins. Sources from multiple teams have said they’ve given Hawkins day-three grades. They say he has terrible leverage, gets fooled, has to get stronger, gets bull rushed, and is stiff. Teams really knocked Hawkins for a lack of strength. They don’t feel he is gifted enough to play left tackle in the NFL. They say that Hawkins has good length, and that his feet are his best attribute, so he is more of a developmental pick and backup. Multiple teams have grades on Hawkins ranging from the fourth to the sixth round.
Virginia cornerback Maurice Canady earned an invitation to the Senior Bowl, but sources say that they have major concerns about Canady in coverage. Canady (6-2, 195) has good size and length for the press-man systems that are en vogue with a number of teams in the NFL. However, sources say that Canady gives up too much separation and they’re grading him on the third day of the draft. Canady needs a big week in Mobile to get second-day consideration.
In speaking with scouts at the weigh-in, no player stood out for bad reasons as being very out of shape or over weight. One player who did trim down before the Senior Bowl was LSU guard/tackle Vadal Alexander. During the fall when scouts went through LSU, they said that Alexander was heavier. This morning he checked in at 6-foot-5, 336 pounds. Sources from multiple teams had weight concerns with Alexander, so it will be important for him to continue to lose weight and at least maintain this weight throughout the pre-draft workouts.
Many free agent running backs who are 30-plus years old with frequent injuries in their career have a hard time finding a team to sign them, but one potential exception this offseason is Bears running back Matt Forte. In speaking with a few teams, they feel that Forte could be a good role player as a receiving back and part-time runner to pair with a first- and second-down back. Forte won’t get a big contract, but he should have a few teams interested in signing him.
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Agamemnon2016 Senior Bowl Rumor Mill
This is Charlie Campbell’s Wednesday 2016 Senior Bowl Rumor Mill. Charlie is reporting live from Mobile, Ala., and he’ll describe what he sees at practice and whom certain prospects talk to all week.
If you want to see other 2016 Senior Bowl Reports, click the link.
Follow me @walterfootball for updates, and stay tuned all week for tons of 2016 Senior Bowl coverage.
2016 Senior Bowl: Wednesday Rumor Mill
By Charlie Campbell – @draftcampbell
With all the general managers, coaches and scouts in attendance for the Senior Bowl, there is a lot of chatter going around. Here are some of the highlights from the rumor mill on Day 3.
Sources told me that at the East-West Shrine, Jets general manager Mike Maccagnan met with every quarterback for an hour. At the Senior Bowl, Maccagnan has continued his quarterback scrutiny, as he had a formal meeting with North Dakota State quarterback Carson Wentz. Clearly, New York isn’t banking on Bryce Petty being the starter of the future and they are doing their homework on the other signal-callers.
The Jets also have scouting hard the edge-rushers. Sources say they had a formal meeting planned with Virginia Tech outside linebacker Dadi Nicolas on Tuesday night. A pass-rusher coming off the edge has been a need for the Jets after Quinton Coples didn’t pan out. New York also had a formal meeting with Louisiana Tech defensive tackle Vernon Butler. It is hard seeing them use another first-round pick on that position, but perhaps it could be in play if Muhammad Wilkerson leaves and Sheldon Richardson faces further discipline in the form of suspensions.
Sources say the Tampa Bay Buccaneers love Florida State cornerback/safety Jalen Ramsey. They view him as a play-making defensive back who could be a tremendous cornerback or safety in the NFL. They feel he is an Alpha Dog defender and would be ecstatic to land him in the 2016 NFL Draft. While the Bucs love Ramsey, they don’t expect him to get to their pick at No. 9 overall. With other needs to address on the roster, it sounds unlikely that Tampa Bay would trade up for Ramsey. Florida cornerback Vernon Hargreaves III is getting some consideration from Tampa Bay, but in speaking with sources, the Buccaneers sound lukewarm on Hargreaves.
In speaking with sources, the Lions love Vernon Butler. They’ve shown a ton of interest in him and it makes perfect sense as Detroit needs to bolster the interior of their defensive line. If Butler continues to have a strong week here in Mobile, he could be firmly in play for the Lions’ first-round pick.
The Bears are interested Houston cornerback William Jackson, but unfortunately for Chicago, Jackson was unable to participate in the Senior Bowl because of an injury. Chicago is in the market for cornerback help, and Jackson is coming off a huge senior year. Perhaps the Bears will target Jackson on Day 2.
In speaking with sources, the Texans plan on being active in free agency. Last year wide receivers Nate Washington and Cecil Shorts signed one-year contracts, so replacing them with some speed complements for DeAndre Hopkins could be one direction they go. Other areas that Houston could definitely address would be a veteran quarterback, running back, tight end, and offensive line help. Really all positions on the offense are potential options for the Texans looking to improve.
One team that hasn’t been discussed being in the quarterback market is the San Diego Chargers. They signed Philip Rivers to an extension, and with the regime on the hot seat, nobody has projecting San Diego to take a quarterback. However, Rivers is 34 and they could get a nice draft pick for the veteran. Sources with the Chargers say the team loves North Dakota State quarterback Carson Wentz. If the Chargers have a shot at Wentz, San Diego will have to consider taking Rivers heir apparent and seeing what they can get for Rivers. Although Rivers contract could make trading him difficult.
Read more at http://walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2016rumors3.php#cktV7ibmi32Kp7VE.99
Agamemnon2016 Senior Bowl Rumor Mill
This is Charlie Campbell’s Wednesday 2016 Senior Bowl Rumor Mill. Charlie is reporting live from Mobile, Ala., and he’ll describe what he sees at practice and whom certain prospects talk to all week.
If you want to see other 2016 Senior Bowl Reports, click the link.
Follow me @walterfootball for updates, and stay tuned all week for tons of 2016 Senior Bowl coverage.
2016 Senior Bowl: Thursday Rumor Mill
By Charlie Campbell – @draftcampbell
With all the general managers, coaches and scouts in attendance for the Senior Bowl, there is a lot of chatter going around. Here are some of the highlights from the rumor mill on Day 4.
Sources say that Ohio State defensive end Joey Bosa is in play for the San Diego Chargers at the third-overall pick. Bosa isn’t a great fit in a 3-4 defense, but the Chargers feel he is a versatile player whom they could move around. San Diego could move him around as a five-technique defensive end and a standup rush linebacker. Young edge rushers Melvin Ingram and Jeremiah Attaochu played well in 2015, and the team is excited about their development, but adding a third pass-rusher and tough run-defender could appeal to San Diego as they need to improve their defense next season.
Obviously, the Rams are in search of a solution to the quarterback position this offseason and have other needs to address like wide receiver. Another potential hole to fill will be cornerback if Janoris Jenkins and/or Trumaine Johnson aren’t re-signed. Jenkins will see a lot of interest from other teams, so retaining Jenkins isn’t a slam-dunk for Los Angeles. The Rams will have E.J. Gaines coming back from an injury that cost him 2015, but if they lose both free agent cornerbacks that could put the position in play for their first-round pick. In speaking with Rams sources, they have a higher grade and preference for Florida cornerback Vernon Hargreaves over Florida State’s Jalen Ramsey.
A cornerback whom some sources really like is Northern Iowa’s Deondre’ Hall. Scouts say they love his length and toughness. Hall is a physical corner who doesn’t shy away from flying into the tackle box to make tackles. Every year, some small-school corners rise in the lead up to the draft to be second-day picks. Hall could be a prime candidate for that this year.
Colorado State wide receiver Rashard Higgins was one of the early entry players who probably should have gone back to school. Sources really like his route-running, reliable hands, and quickness to get open. Plus, Higgins was very productive the past two seasons. However, Higgins is very thin and sources say that is going to hurt his draft grade. If Higgins were thicker and heavier, he could be a second-round pick. Sources say that Higgins is probably more likely to go in the 3-5 range.
Two players who have not done well in the team interviews are Eastern Kentucky’s Noah Spence and Southern Utah’s Miles Killebrew. Spence had off-the-field issues at Ohio State and Eastern Kentucky with a year long suspension, transfer, and arrest for public intoxication. Teams weren’t impressed with how Spence answered their questions. They also said that Killebrew did not come off well in the interviews. Both players will need to get better in a hurry with the Combine and pre-draft visits just weeks away.
On Monday, we talked about how some teams were very critical about how Penn State head coach James Franklin handled quarterback Christian Hackenberg. Over the past few months, there have been media reports questioning Hackenberg as a teammate and suggesting he was disliked in the Penn State locker room. A few weeks back, we caught up with a former teammate, Tampa Bay Buccaneers left tackle Donovan Smith. Smith who disputed those claims. This week, I spoke with Carl Nassib and asked him about the reports that Hackenberg was a bad teammate and disliked in the locker room. Nassib was stunned and his jaw hit he floor. He couldn’t believe it. “Interesting, I had not heard that. Really?” said Nassib. “That is false. No. That is definitely speculation. Christian is a great player and a great teammate.” Nassib is known as a high-character hard worker who was beloved by Franklin and former head coach Bill O’Brien. Thus, when Nassib responds in that fashion it carries some weight.
Everybody around the league expects the Denver Broncos to use the franchise tag on linebacker Von Miller, but if he somehow hits free agency, expect the Jaguars to make a big play for Miller. Jacksonville has a ton of money available and they badly need a difference-maker on the defensive side of the ball. If Miller isn’t slapped with the tag, the Jaguars are willing to overpay to get him to come to Jacksonville.
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Agamemnonmy guess is wichmann and brown become at least average starters.
and yeah. absolutely nailed the first two picks.
if mannion were to become the eventual starter they will have essentially laid down the foundation of their offense in one draft.
chances are that isn’t the case but nice to imagine.
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