The Jeff Fisher Show, 9/22

PA Ram wrote:

He insists it isn’t an injury thing–it’s a numbers–special teams thing.

It’s not either/or between “injury” or “special teams. According to everything eveyone has said about it, it doesn’t get down to that.

He’s rusty, not in game shape, not up to speed—a long recovery and a lot of time spent without going through real 100% reps. THAT makes it look like it gets down to him and Givens, with Givens having been 100% in every practice.

Here’s what JT says about it:

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http://theramshuddle.com/topic/jt-chat-922/

JT: I’ve answered this one about a dozen times already over the past couple of weeks.. So I’ll try again. In returning from shoulder surgery, Quick played in only 30 plays in the preseason He’s rusty. He’s not injured. Not anymore. Fisher normally doesn’t dress a bunch of receivers. (Because he doesn’t have a pass-happy offense.) So in deciding who’s the 5th receiver to dress, Fisher has opted for Bradley Marquez because of his special teams value. Fisher is very big on special teams. Givens probably was the most impressive WR during the preseason, which I think has earned him the early-shot as the team’s 4th WR. So it’s a tough spot for Quick. The only way to knock off the rust is to play, and right now he can’t get on the field. After last week’s offensive struggles perhaps the situation gets re-evaluated this week. As for being the “No. 1” WR, I like Quick’s potential a lot, but I don’t think any Rams coach has referred to him as the No. 1 WR.

PA Ram wrote:

I get the rusty thing but sooner or later you have to let him play.

Givens had a great pre-season but hasn’t had much of an impact in two games. Bailey and Austin already give you two smaller fast guys. Honestly, I’d like to see a pass or two tossed to Marquez in the game. In pre-season he showed he can break tackles. There has to be a way to take advantage of his talent–although I get he doesn’t really work on the 1st string offense during the week. But maybe put something in for him here or there.

Of course he’s going to play. The question is, why after only 2 games you think that’s an issue, for a guy coming back from an injury they are first thought was career threatening. If nothing else the recovery was long and it took away from him practicing and getting reps at a 100% rate. So he’s not ready. I mean if he’s not ready, he’s not ready.

And in terms of comparing Givens and Quick the way you do, that’s not really the issue if Quick is not ready.

PA Ram wrote:

Well, I think Quick gives them something that Givens doesn’t–and what Givens gives them, Austin or Bailey can give them(although I’m not saying Bailey is as fast as Givens) and why not give Foles another type of weapon? Fisher says it’s not an injury question he says it’s a numbers question. He doesn’t say anything about rust. He says numbers. So is Fisher not telling us everything? If it’s just a numbers thing than he has the option to sit Givens. If it is rust that’s fine–but Fisher never says that.

Quick doesn’t give them anything if he’s not ready to play.

And btw Wagoner on 101 yesterday said the same thing about Quick JT did.

He’s not up to speed yet.

So far that’s Wagoner, Thomas, Fisher, and Quick all saying the same thing.

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PA Ram wrote:

Maybe I missed it but I didn’t hear Fisher say anything about Quick not being up to speed.

He’s being patient, he says. He says it’s a numbers thing.

The rest sounds like speculation. Even if it’s true and it may very well be–I’m not saying it isn’t. But Fisher could say that and I’d nod and go, okay–get it. Fisher doesn’t say that, at least not that I’ve heard or read. That’s why I find it odd. That doesn’t mean it is odd–but it just comes across that way as Fisher presents it.

He did. People misread that comment because they leave part of it out and take it out of context. Here’s the part they miss.

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http://theramshuddle.com/search/patient/

He’s just going to have to be patient. He’s coming. He’s missed a lot of time. He’s coming.

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Plus both JT and Wagoner have independently said yeah that’s the story.

Here;s JT again:

So it’s a tough spot for Quick. The only way to knock off the rust is to play, and right now he can’t get on the field.