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    Breaking: George Kittle has been activated off IR and is expected to play Sunday vs. the Falcons, the team announced.

    #158771
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    Broncos score zero in the first three quarters. And 33 in the fourth quarter. To win 33-32. O my.

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    Broncos score zero in the first three quarters. And 33 in the fourth quarter. To win 33-32. O my.

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    from Broncos stun Giants 33-32 with last-second field goal after getting shut out for three quarters

    https://www.espn.com/nfl/recap/_/gameId/401772757

    DENVER — — Wil Lutz kicked a 39-yard field goal as time expired, lifting the Denver Broncos to a thrilling 33-32 win Sunday over the stunned New York Giants, who took a shutout into the fourth quarter.

    The Broncos’ improbable comeback snapped a streak in which NFL teams had won 1,602 consecutive games when leading by 18 points in the final 6 minutes of a game.

    The Broncos (5-2) trailed 26-8 with just over 5 minutes remaining but scored on a 7-yard Bo Nix scamper, R.J. Harvey’s 2-yard catch, an 18-yard keeper by Nix and Lutz’s game-winner after Jaxson Dart seemingly broke the Broncos’ hearts with a 1-yard TD with 37 seconds left that gave New York a 32-30 lead.

    Jude McAtamney missed his second extra point of the afternoon, however, and after Tyler Badie returned the kickoff 19 yards to the 23, Nix found Marvin Mims for 29 yards and Courtland Sutton for 22.

    With no timeouts remaining, Nix and the offense raced to the line of scrimmage at the Giants 21 and spiked the ball with 2 seconds left.

    The snap was high but Lutz nailed the field goal to secure Denver’s fourth consecutive win overall and NFL-best eighth straight at home.

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    PFF grading controversy. In the Chiefs 31-0 win over the Raiders.

    Mahommes Stat line: 26 for 35, 3 TDs, 286 yards, Zero turnovers.
    Geno Smith stat line: 10 for 16, for 67 yards, zero TDs, zero turnovers.

    PFF grades:
    Mahommes 62.2
    Geno 67.2

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    #158805
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    PFF grades:
    Mahommes 62.2
    Geno 67.2

    [posted by me without agreeing or disagreeing, in a “fits the topic” kinda way]

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    Mitchell Schwartz@MitchSchwartz71
    Here’s the thing with PFF grades for QBs that it seems like is totally lost on most people who casually see grades:

    1) Their “turnover worthy plays” get graded much more negatively than normal positive plays do, for good reason. Turnover avoidance is hugely important.

    2) If you don’t have any extremely difficult throws then your grade isn’t going to look amazing, especially if you have a TWP or two. A game being “easier” means you don’t have the ability to be positively rewarded for what they call “big time throws,” which skew the grade higher.

    3) Depth of targe matters too. Shorter throws are easier, and if the game develops in a way that the QB is throwing shorter and again, easier, then the grading isn’t going to be as favorable.

    4) You don’t get graded for how difficult your assignment is (at least I don’t think) unless you’re making difficult throws. It’s just grading the read/throw itself on a given play. The fact that KC can run the highest level of offense and put so much on Pat’s plate isn’t factored into the grade. That’s a subjective piece you have to add yourself.

    5) What other easily digestible and quantifiable metric do you like better to evaluate QB play?

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    Simsdoe@Sims_Doe
    Can you elaborate more on why you think you might struggle in a KC offense?

    Kurt Warner@kurt13warner
    From what I see in the outside, it’s not as defined as I would like! The route combinations don’t always line up with my sense of timing, spacing and putting players in conflict… there is a bit more free-lancing within the structure of plays that is not something I liked!

    I wanted everything detailed and defined by guys around me, so I could be more definitive with my reads and anticipation… more free flowing movement would have given me more hesitation, even though I think I “FEEL” (seeing spaces & openings not everyone can see) the game in a very similar manner to PM2!

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    Simsdoe@Sims_Doe
    Can you elaborate more on why you think you might struggle in a KC offense?

    Kurt Warner@kurt13warner
    From what I see in the outside, it’s not as defined as I would like! The route combinations don’t always line up with my sense of timing, spacing and putting players in conflict… there is a bit more free-lancing within the structure of plays that is not something I liked!

    I wanted everything detailed and defined by guys around me, so I could be more definitive with my reads and anticipation… more free flowing movement would have given me more hesitation, even though I think I “FEEL” (seeing spaces & openings not everyone can see) the game in a very similar manner to PM2!

    So. You are raising the freelancing debate again. I see.

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    #158810
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    Simsdoe@Sims_Doe
    Can you elaborate more on why you think you might struggle in a KC offense?

    Kurt Warner@kurt13warner
    From what I see in the outside, it’s not as defined as I would like! The route combinations don’t always line up with my sense of timing, spacing and putting players in conflict… there is a bit more free-lancing within the structure of plays that is not something I liked!

    I wanted everything detailed and defined by guys around me, so I could be more definitive with my reads and anticipation… more free flowing movement would have given me more hesitation, even though I think I “FEEL” (seeing spaces & openings not everyone can see) the game in a very similar manner to PM2!

    So. You are raising the freelancing debate again. I see.

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    Ah but there’s a difference!

    When Kurt changed a playcall he expected the receiver to do precisely what the change entailed. Like the TD to Proehl in the Bux championship game. In that play, Proehl runs a different route than the one assigned by the play, except that Kurt chose the new route. Proehl was supposed to be mechanical within that new framework.

    When he talks about the Chiefs offense, he means there are more options built in where a receiver alters a route during the play in response to what the defense shows. Kurt is saying he was not built to play that kind of offense.

    For example. In being pedantically literal, I am not free-lancing in this post.

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    Brady’s four best WR/TE

    #158812
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    For example. In being pedantically literal, I am not free-lancing in this post.

    And what about when Kurt invited Brenda into the huddle to talk about jesus ?
    You’ve glossed over that completely.

    Shoot, I dont think you even remember those St Louis days. You need to fix that.

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    #158819
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    The greatest player of all time is…

    #158820
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    Jim Otto lived in my town (pop. 11,000). Owned a Burger King (that got shut down bc of tax evasion) in which he had built a shrine to himself in the dining room. He and his wife had big SUVs with personalized plates. Used to see them driving around once in awhile. Never personally met him, but he seemed to announce his arrival everywhere he went.

    That aside… he was a badass football player.

    #158849
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    Good week VII thread…

    Mahomes vs Geno……. the Raiders stink…

    Broncos erase Giants lead in the 4th… Cardinals blew it against GB too…

    Colts are for real… they beat the shit out of a pretty good Charger team.

    Jim Otto’s Burger King….. yes, the “00” Raider shrine off hwy 80 in Auburn… IMO, The Whopper is the most underrated fast-food burger.

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