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Zooey
ModeratorNot to change the subject, or anything, but here’s a petition to nominate Anita Hill (LOL):
https://www.change.org/p/nominate-anita-hill-for-supreme-court-justice?recruiter=40939820&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylinkZooey
ModeratorA supreme court justice unexpectedly dies in office. Despite your prejudice such a death deserves an autopsy.
His family doesn’t agree with you.
But then, maybe they are in on it.
Zooey
ModeratorWill never know without an autopsy. No autopsy in the unanticipated death of such an important government official. The surprise death of a man comprising one ninth of one of the three branches of the federal government doesn’t warrant an autopsy?
I would think it would, yes. Though I have no knowledge of how those decisions are made. I don’t know who was at the ranch, how many were there, what Scalia’s last day was like, what health issues he had, who found him, how it was handled.
I will say that suffocating somebody with a pillow is not a very professional way to go about killing someone, and carries a significant risk of failure, as well as the likelihood of leaving signs of struggle that would invite an autopsy and an investigation. I would think that – you know – assassins would have a better plan than that, and probably wouldn’t leave a pillow on his head.
Zooey
ModeratorI am delighted,
jesus, finally took him
and threw him
in hell.w
vIt does appear he was taken. The deciding vote, the most reliable vote in opposition to the administrations position in cases to be decided by the supreme court, dies with a pillow over his head at a ranch owned by an Obama supporter and without seeing the body the local coroner rules natural death over the phone thus no autopsy. So convenient and transparent.
Are you claiming Scalia was murdered?
Zooey
ModeratorI am actually starting to think that this is an opportunity for Obama to nominate – not a moderate – but a liberal to the court. The Republicans are in a bad, bad place right now. First of all, they lost Scalia. He was a lock as a conservative vote. His subtraction just made the court more liberal. I mean…that’s math. In a court where a lot of votes were 5-4, they have now just become 5-3, or 4-4 at worst. And a 4-4 vote means the lower court ruling is upheld, and the lower courts are currently more liberal than conservative. So the stay the SC just put on the environmental initiative would get through with only the 8 justices there now, and in fact, I expect it will be tweaked and sent back up because of that very opening. So they are under pressure to move.
Also, the Republicans have more senate seats up for grabs this year, and several of them come from moderate to slightly liberal states, and none of those guys have come out and said they are playing the roadblock game. It could kill them.
Now, on the positive side of the ledger for Rs, freezing this debate is red meat for the culture war types. But the problem is that Citizens United is unpopular with most Americans, and most Americans don’t want Roe overturned. So if these firebrands are going to lock down this nomination, they are not only going to fire up their base, they are going to fire up some democrats who are usually lazy about voting. There were 3.6 million fewer votes for Obama in 2012 than 2008, but this could bring more people to the polls, and greater voter turnout favors democrats. And if he nominates Eric Holder, it could bring out the black vote.
Meanwhile this game of Russian Roulette doesn’t have any payoff if the next president is a democrat. They could potentially damage their hold in congress by forcing a stalemate over this issue, all gambling that they get to send a Republican to the white house to make a conservative nomination. It’s a gamble they have to take, and it is more likely to bite them in the ass than to come out the way they want.
Additionally, they have already announced that their opposition is purely political obstructionism. No matter who the nominee is, their opposition to him/her has already been defined as politics by their party leadership. So even if they have some “real” reason to oppose Obama’s nomination, they have already ensured that their objections can’t be taken at face value.
The death of Scalia has hurt conservatives pretty badly. They are between a rock and a hard right place.
The election becomes a referendum on the President versus a do-nothing congress, progress versus obstructionism. The Rs cannot win that. And most Americans are going to reject the implied argument that we need a cultural conservative on the court. Americans have moved to more liberal social views, so the Rs are just on a losing track.
I think nominating a liberal justice will absolutely FORCE the Rs to take this stand, including senators up for re-election. There are 5 R senators in toss up races right now in states that Obama carried in 2012. Obama can pressure those seats by making it harder for them to break ranks with the R. They will either have to vote for the nominee, or face a backlash in their state.
I don’t think Obama will do that because he’s mostly tried to play nice with these assholes for the past 7 years, but even if he nominates a moderate, the Rs are in bad shape.
Man, I am getting jacked up about this election cycle, I must say. All the entrails I am casting on the fire are telling me conservatives are going to get their knuckles rapped pretty hard.
Zooey
ModeratorWell i think yer thinkin like a Non-Republican.
The Religious Right will see it as a holy-war — abortion.
They will want the Reps to delay no matter what. They’ll applaud it.And the Money-Corporate-RightWingers will also not want
a new justice who might roll back some of the huge
corporate gains in the last few years. So, they wont care about ‘honor’ or ethics or any of that silly liberal bullshit.And the middle-grounders and the ‘undecided’ types who
decide elections ? Well they are off playing
video games or wondering whats on tv this week.w
vSure.
But when the undecideds lift up their eyes in September and October, and see the obstructionism of the Rs and the damaged R presidential nominee, they are going to vote for the Ds. Unfortunately, many of the districts have been gerrymandered so severely that it’s not possible for the Rs to get blown out, but holding up the Supreme Court is not going to play well with the independents and undecideds. They may not have passionate political beliefs, but I’m pretty confident that they don’t want the federal government to be jammed up and gridlocked. Ted Cruz and Grover Norquist want that, but most people don’t.
Zooey
ModeratorI’ve never liked O’Rourke. Yeah, he’s a rightie libertarian, a group that as a leftie libertarian myself, I would think I would have more affinity for, but of all possibilities in the political spectrum, I find rightie libertarians to be the most annoying by far. I wonder where they are going this election with Paul long gone. Kasich, I guess.
To the rest of the world Donald Trump seems like a joke. And, please, let’s hope he is. Trump is a prank the American electorate is pulling on the American political establishment.
Like many jokes, Trump is a manifestation of discomfort and anxiety.
This is Karl Rove’s and Roger Ailes’ cynicism having now grown large enough to bite the Republicans in the ass. They have deliberately seeded anger, resentment, and fear through Limbaugh, Hannity, Savage, Beck, O’Reilly, and the FOX news network in order to line up this voting bloc, and guess what? They now have a fully grown angry, resentful, and xenophobic group of voters on their hands who are dissatisfied with all the empty promises. The hardline cultural conservatives are feeling the same way. For more than 30 years, the corporate politicians have been giving lip service to abortion and gays and illegal immigration and Big Government et cetera, and then not doing much of anything about it. Those people are pissed now. Trump isn’t a joke. He is the embodiment of the disenfranchisement of the uneducated white males who have been deliberately targeted with this propaganda and USED by the Republican party to support their money grab for the 1%. They seeded this monster, fertilized it, and used it for decades to consolidate their rigging of the economic system, and now that bloc is getting out of control and demanding delivery of these crackpot solutions they’ve been sold as reasonable solutions.
Interestingly, FOX News itself has a fault line trembling through the middle of it right now. Murdoch is trying to line up succession both to himself and to Ailes, and it isn’t going well. Ailes ended up getting a contract extension, but he is reportedly much more scattered these days, and FOX isn’t receiving a clear cut set of marching orders like it used to. That’s part of the reason why FOX hasn’t delivered a clear Trump message. FOX is for Rubio, evidently, but without a Trump plan, it is floundering. There is also a schism between the News side and the Programming/business side with the leaders of those two divisions openly hating each other and rarely speaking, and publicly exemplified by the little cat fight between George Will and Bill O’Reilly. FOX is more likely to repair their rift than the Republican party is, but the conservative branches in this country are starting to turn on each other, and that can only be good for the country.
Zooey
ModeratorI try to watch the Republican debates, but with only one TV and limited ability to relieve stress (one can only deep breathe so much before it’s actually hyperventilating), I just can’t do it anymore.
We know too much about how the words translate into action.
Unfortunately, that leaves me with the regurgitated aftermath… and it doesn’t take much imagination to realize that if the original wasn’t very appealing, that the regurgitated mess isn’t any more appealing.
That anyone can do it is fantastic. Thanks for the reportage. I take them like Camp Reports… valuable since I can’t be there…
I totally understand.
No one has to tell me about the ennui of following modern American politics.
But this is a train wreck. We don’t have a bunch of stiffs out-platituding each other.
We have a genuine dust up. A bunch of silver spoons trying to maintain their dignity in the middle of a food fight, and not able to do it.
You guys are missing out.
Zooey
ModeratorI am as “into” it as I have been since W finally left office. I have been taking a vacation from politics to a large extent post-Bush since I was worn out, and also because I pretty much expected mainstream Cruise Control under Obama which is what we got. But at least he wasn’t out doing abnormally sociopathic things like W.
But I am intrigued by this election. The establishment people are facing rejection by a large number of voters. This is the storyline. Both Rs and Ds are pissed at the establishment – as they have been for a long time – but this time is different. There are large numbers in each party that are demanding changes to the status quo. The shit-stirrers are the candidates with passionate followings. They may still lose out, but the threat is real, and I think is going to have consequences.
I had hoped with Obama – best case scenario – that he could be transformative in the way that Reagan was. That he could start the pendulum swinging back away from conservative excesses. He wasn’t. But he may have at least put brakes on the rightward swing.
The establishment Rs are getting zero love. One of them may still win, but it will clearly be because he is not Donald Trump more than because he is inspiring.
Hillary has some love, but there’s no passion. The only sign of passion coming out of her campaign is coming from her supporters attacking Sanders’ followers with all the petulance of someone who feels like some kids cut in line in front of her.
The passion squares up behind Sanders and Trump only. They are the ones promising changes in the system, and come across as honest rather than calculated. Hillary just isn’t able to fire anyone up with her rallying cry of “Hey, I can make incremental progress!” and the Rs are all just making each other look completely unfit for the Oval Office.
Something is happening here. And it may get swallowed up under the SuperPACs in the long run, but the establishment needs to take control of this by the first week of March, or there are going to be fireworks this summer and into the Fall.
Zooey
ModeratorThis is bad for the Republicans. Boy, oh boy, I hope we get a floor fight at the convention.
Well, are you sure republican voters think that?
They could be fine with it.
I’m not sure I know what ANYBODY thinks. That’s why this election has more drama for me as a spectator compared to most of them, and why I’m on a message board trying to get into conversations about what other people are seeing.
The quote you put up is by a Trump supporter. A diehard supporter who saw Trump clean up in the debate. I have not hit the news yet this morning – coming here first as is my habit – but last night all the TH (Talking Heads) were saying Trump lost and that Bush was the victor. Which I thought was interesting in itself because I saw no difference between Trump last night and the Trump was declared a victor in previous debates. He wasn’t “exposed,” or embarrassed the way Rubio was last time. And the dude plastered Bush with several body blows on Iraq. And he got away with denouncing Cruz as a Fat Liar. Rubio was much better this time, Bush was okay, Carson is dead and basically forgotten, and it looked to me like….
Well, here’s where I speculate. Rob Proud American would be happy to have the convention look like that debate, I suppose. But the “establishment” Republicans certainly don’t. They want to win the White House, and I think the party is going to suffer badly if Trump wins the nomination, or if there is an ugly floor fight that ends with an establishment nominee at Trump’s expense. I think there is a possibility that there will be voter defections: either vote for someone else, or stay home. And so I speculate that the establishment is now starting to impose their establishment views without restraint. They are now starting to say that Trump lost. The establishment can’t let this continue. They can’t have a different candidate every time take first or second place while Trump stays up there in first or second place. They anti-Trump wing of the party has to coalesce quickly around somebody, or else. IMO, Trump doesn’t ever get more popular. Every possible Trump supporter is already on board. Nobody – imo – has Trump as their 2nd choice if their first choice drops out. That’s the thing. He has 1/3 of the Republican party, and that’s it. The people who want a bull in the china shop are already lined up behind him.
And independents…they aren’t going to support a bloody and bruised candidate that emerges from a messy convention.
I think the Republicans are in a very bad position right now, and here they are lining up to filibuster whomever Obama nominates to replace Scalia. They aren’t going to look good doing that if Obama nominates someone without some glaring vulnerability. It’s going to look like partisan politics – which it is – and I don’t think the Republicans have a shot at the White House anyway at this point. Fighting the appointment…I mean, seriously, I think this could have impact going well down the party. I think there is the possibility of wide defections, and significant defeat for the Republicans.
The Republicans are divided right now. You can say that the Democrats are divided, too, and you would be right. But they aren’t headed towards a gang fight like the Republicans are.
Zooey
ModeratorAt the risk of ruining a perfectly good reputation for pessimism, I will venture to say that it wouldn’t be asking a lot of Mannion to exceed the performance of many of his recent predecessors.
Zooey
ModeratorThat’s the first debate I’ve watched from start to finish. Brilliant theatre. I am surprised nobody threw an octopus onto the stage. I’m hearing that Jerry Springer is going to moderate the next debate.
This is bad for the Republicans. Boy, oh boy, I hope we get a floor fight at the convention.
Zooey
ModeratorFunny. If there was a Republican President, they’d want Scalia replaced immediately.
Politics is so damned transparently without honor, code or even a shred of dignity or respect.
That’s why I say it’s pornography for polite society. Actually, I think watching penises enter various orifices is far less obscene that so much of what occurs in what we call the “Political Arena”.
Far. Less. Obscene.
You know, I might just be seeing what I want to see.
But as I am watching this election cycle, I think I am seeing that the under 30 set is more savvy than we give them credit for. I think they see the transparency. I think they see that the Republicans are calling for holding off on Scalia’s appointment for exactly what it is.
Maybe…just maybe…we are of an older school that has always been too polite about calling out hypocrisy. And the Twitter generation just isn’t.
I don’t know.
What I do know is that it is February. And calling for the country to wait a YEAR before replacing a justice on the basis of “wait and let the people have a say as to the direction of the country” is transparently ridiculous.
So the real question, it seems to me, is what is the end game? What happens if Obama nominates somebody in a couple of weeks, and the Republicans tie it up? If they can’t make a case against the nominee, and just fight on the principle that the country oughta wait…I think that’s disaster for Republicans.
Zooey
ModeratorTo be fair, no other fanbase has had a uniform that compares favorably to the Rams.
I think, really, that the uniform identity is also tied to winning. I bet Tampa didn’t have much of a problem changing their uniform.
But if Dallas tried to change their colors or the star on the helmet, hell yes there would be noise.
And minor tweaks are not going to upset people as much as larger changes, of course. The Bears added red to the C. The lines might change here and there. Nobody really gets too upset.
Even the Rams change to the current gold over the yellow wasn’t widely protested.
It’s the horns. It’s the helmet.
I wonder about the Jets. They had a radical change to their helmet. I wonder how that went down because they had the big super bowl/Namath thing in the old helmet (which they have returned to) whereas Tampa changed their helmet without any winning memory, really. And Cincinnati.
I dunno. I don’t follow other teams, but we have a spread of nomads around the country. What about the Patriots’ change?
Joemad is right about the 9ers. But that helmet lasted about 30 seconds before it was shot down. Not sure it was ever seriously considered, actually. But I don’t hear talk of the 9ers uniforms on the radio here. Seems to me the Rams fans are more deeply connected.
Zooey
ModeratorI think the attacks on her character are far worse than the original act. The original act can be forgiven. It was maybe an impulse thing. Stupid. Offensive. Regrettable. Embarrassing. Appalling, really. But the character assassination is coldly meditated.
Zooey
ModeratorYeah. Supreme Court matters.
And Ted Cruz has already tweeted that he wants to stall the replacement for Satan until the next president is in office.
And maybe if it’s Hillary, she can just send Obama to the Supreme Court.
Zooey
ModeratorZooey
ModeratorFebruary 9, 2016 at 7:12 pm in reply to: 2016 mocks & rankings & general draft commentaries, thread 2 #38785Zooey
ModeratorTavon Austin.
Imagine the Rams offense without him.
I don’t think the fact that they have missed on some WRs means they can’t hit. Givens, Quick, Bailey, and Austin are the WR picked by Snisher. Gilyard, Pettis, and Salas were before Fisher.
So that isn’t really a large sample size, and nobody knows how much of that was Fisher and/or Snead, or how to rate his picks with the Titans. I will just say that “Fisher can’t draft WR” seems like a dubious claim to me.
Spend a first round pick on one.
February 9, 2016 at 3:47 pm in reply to: 2016 mocks & rankings & general draft commentaries, thread 2 #38780Zooey
Moderatornot sure i want the rams drafting a receiver. don’t seem to have much luck with that position. i think they should go after one in free agency and draft other positions.
Drew Bennett. Laurent Robinson. Kenny Britt.
You really want to address WR through FA?
Zooey
ModeratorThey may just be flat-liners emotionally. Some people just don’t physically register emotions.
Though. You would think a slight smile, or a quick “hooyah” would be visible.
Eli and Cam. The weekends big losers.
Zooey
ModeratorThe Broncos set a record with 12 straight failures to convert on 3rd down.
Yet some idiot Ram fans would have you believe that Fisher doesn’t know how to build a championship offense.
Zooey
ModeratorAfter watching Foles implode last season, who in their right mind would want him?
Well, just because it would be fun, I want the following to happen:
1. Rams sign Bradford
2. Eagles trade for Foles
This has been floating around in my mind, too.
I would take Bradford back.
Zooey
ModeratorThere is no way. Finnegan is just doing the self-aggrandizing thing.
Ya think JT wouldn’t have caught wind of this? The St. Lou beat reporter never hears about this in spite of the fact that Fisher knows, and all the players know and anybody else in the locker room, but JT never finds out that it’s an open secret?
Yeah, I don’t think so.
Yeah, i think ole Cortland is just shooting
from the hip.Now go take a look at what Rodney Harrison
said. Its the single worst thing i’ve ever
heard an NFL player say, i think.w
vI thought Rodney Harrison was a scumbag BEFORE he took out Trent Green.
I saw his comment. I also saw his comments crying about when he got hurt. And I saw him criticize Fisher for …
Forget it. The guy is a scumbag.
I don’t want any Rodney Harrisons in football. I joke about injuries, and stuff, but I’m joking. He isn’t. I want to watch football, not gladiators.
Zooey
ModeratorThere is no way. Finnegan is just doing the self-aggrandizing thing.
Ya think JT wouldn’t have caught wind of this? The St. Lou beat reporter never hears about this in spite of the fact that Fisher knows, and all the players know and anybody else in the locker room, but JT never finds out that it’s an open secret?
Yeah, I don’t think so.
Zooey
ModeratorI figure it’s true, too, yet I think it would be a mistake to unload him. I would keep him through the pre-season, and try to deal him to some team that needs a RB. I don’t think this is Zac Stacey. Who knows? He might be worth keeping in the end. What if Gurley or Cunningham goes down?
Zooey
ModeratorBill Murray looks like a zombie.
And I can’t imagine he is a fan of the Jaguars. Why would he be? He was born in Illinois, and lives in Chicago.
How can you make that statement on a board full of nomads?
I was born in PA and live in VT yet I am a Rams fan.
Pa Ram and JackP were born in PA and live in Reading yet they are Rams fans.
zn was born in Heaven but was cast out and after a few millennia in Hell moved to Maine yet he is a Rams fan.
There’s more to fandom than geography, or you would be a Raiders or 49’ers fan.
Oh.
Right.
Let me amend that by saying there’s *usually* more to fandom than geography.
Certainly.
Yet the Rams EXISTED when you became a football fan.
The Jaguars did NOT exist when Bill Murray became a football fan. And why would a Bears fan switch to become a fan of the Jaguars? No how, no way, not one instance of that happening may be found in the history of mankind.
From Wikipedia:
Murray is a fan of several Chicago professional sports teams, especially the Chicago Cubs, Chicago Bears and the Chicago Bulls.[48] (He was once a guest color commentator for a Cubs game during the 1980s.)[49] Murray is an avid Quinnipiac University basketball fan, where his son served as head of basketball operations. Murray is a regular fixture at home games. He cheered courtside for the Illinois Fighting Illini’s game against the 2004-05 Arizona Wildcats in the Regional Final game in Chicago. He is a fixture at home games of those teams when in his native Chicago. After traveling to Florida during the Cubs playoff run to help “inspire” the team (Murray joked with Cubs slugger Aramis Ramírez he was very ill and needed two home runs to give him the hope to live),[50] he was invited to the champagne party in the Cubs’ clubhouse when the team clinched the NL Central in late September 2007, along with fellow actors John Cusack, Bernie Mac, James Belushi, and former Cubs player Ron Santo. Murray appears in Santo’s documentary, This Old Cub. In 2006, Murray became the sixth recipient of Baseball Reliquary’s annual Hilda Award,[51] established in 2001 “to recognize distinguished service to the game by a fan.”[52]
Zooey
ModeratorBill Murray looks like a zombie.
And I can’t imagine he is a fan of the Jaguars. Why would he be? He was born in Illinois, and lives in Chicago.
Zooey
Moderator“..it left a stadium saddled with about $144 million in debt and maintenance costs. Taxpayers will now shoulder the remaining payments for the Edward Jones Dome with only the help of revenue from tractor pulls…”
As per usual, the corporate-wheeler-dealers
make the deals, and the People, have to pay
in the end.In a just system, that there little game would
be Illegal.w
vThe state and local elected officials have to be either complicit in the poor deal making, or are blind to the real benefits and costs of stadium construction and maintenance. I don’t know the history of the Jones Dome deal other than what I have read here and in a few other articles, but it seems to me that the elected leadership in St. Louis who approved the deal did not do their homework and let the people down.
One explanation that really resonated with me was in an article which described the St. Louis representatives as being “star-struck” when they met up with all the NFL people. The glamour of the whole experience for them overwhelmed their reason, basically, like a 17-year old girl meeting a rock star.
They didn’t do their math. Or any of their other homework. And they agreed to the worst contract ever between a city and a team. That’s it.
Zooey
ModeratorOxnard?
Did you say…Oxnard?
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