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September 11, 2018 at 3:06 am in reply to: tweets & articles on the Oakland game … + Raiders fans post-game reactions #90682
znModeratorJoe Curley@vcsjoecurley
On his first night with the green dot, LB Cory Littleton had 13 tackles, an interception and a pass breakup. S John Johnson had 9 tackles, an interception and two pass breakups. DL Michael Brockers had 5 tackles and a sack. CB Marcus Peters had a Pick 6 and a pass breakup.The Rams might be 1-0, but Sean McVay still criticized himself in the postgame tonight, regarding some “situational playcalls. “I was definitely disappointed in myself in a lot of situations tonight.” @CVRamsClub @DowntownRams @usatodaynfl
Sean McVay lauded his defense’s second half performance tonight in Oakland: “It was a great job by our guys making some plays in the second half defensively… to get three turnovers I thought was the key to the game.”
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Lindsey Thiry@LindseyThiry
Todd Gurley looked every part of the reigning NFL Offensive Player of the Year in a victory over the Raiders. Gurley had only five touches in the first half, but took shovel pass 19 yards for a touchdown – one of the newest wrinkles in coach Sean McVay’s offense. And in the second half, Gurley went to work in the running game to finish with 108 yards (85 in the second half) in 20 carries. And as Jared Goff continued to attempt deep passes, it’s easy to think the run game will open up for Gurley even more in the coming weeks.“He’s got the GOAT blood,” — Aqib Talib on Wade Phillips and his halftime adjustments.
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Vincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
#Rams Aqib Talib said that first half was freestyle football because of the lack of intel. Said #Raiders were running stuff they hadn’t seen on film. Proud of the way they responded and regrouped==
RamsToday@RamsTodayIG
I loved how calm and composed Coach Sean McVay looked during the first half. Kept his cool and adjusted coming into the 2nd half to pull through for the win. #LARams—
Jim Everett@Jim_Everett
I still can’t comprehend how such an outstanding player, @awhitworth77, got away from the @Bengals? He’s been so instrumental, on so many levels, to the @RamsNFL.==
“We came in the locker room down 3, we found a way to put it together and be at our best when our best was required.”
Inside the #LARams locker room after the win! pic.twitter.com/4tg2N6U9I1
— Los Angeles Rams (@RamsNFL) September 11, 2018
znModeratorSound. On. 🔊@marcuspeters checks in with @AqibTalib21 after the win! pic.twitter.com/5Fj5BqZ37Y
— Los Angeles Rams (@RamsNFL) September 11, 2018
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September 11, 2018 at 2:44 am in reply to: chat room, 10:15 et/9:15 pt…Monday game, what's your prediction? #90679
znModeratorOn Mack, Adam Schefter says the Rams offered a 1st and 3rd with the idea they would trade him after the year for approximately the same thing. And just get him for a year.
Not a bad gamble, imo.
I thought about that.
The only way it works is if Mack agrees to play without an extension.
Unless they intended to sign him to an extension and then trade him contract and all.
September 11, 2018 at 2:43 am in reply to: tweets & articles on the Oakland game … + Raiders fans post-game reactions #90678
znModeratorRams wear down Raiders to win easily, 33-13
Rams wear down Raiders to win easily, 33-13
Jon Gruden enjoyed that . . . for the first half. Or maybe not considering all the Raiders penalties.
In any event, he surely didn’t enjoy the outcome.
The Rams outgained the Raiders 267 to 141 in the second half, overcoming a 13-10 halftime deficit to win easily, 33-13. It ended up being the result most expected, but it took the Rams a while to realize the season had started.
After resting their star players in the preseason, the Rams got off to a slow start. Raiders tight end Jared Cook had more receiving yards in the first half (113) than the Rams had total yards in the first half (98).
But Los Angeles made up for lost time, rolling upon its return from the locker room by wearing down the overmatched Raiders.
In the second half, Greg Zuerlein hit field goals of 28, 55 and 20 yards; Cooper Kupp caught an 8-yard pass from Jared Goff; and Marcus Peters returned an interception 50 yards for a touchdown.
Peters’ pick-six was the sixth of the NFL’s opening weekend. It was Derek Carr‘s third interception of the night as he went 29-of-40 for 303 yards and a 62.8 passer rating.
Todd Gurley finished with 20 carries for 108 yards and three catches for 39 yards and a touchdown. Goff went 18-for-33 for 233 yards and two touchdowns, a passer rating of 97.2. Brandin Cooks caught five passes for 87 yards.
Aaron Donald, the NFL’s defensive player of the year in 2017, played most of the snaps but finished with only one tackle.
The Raiders missed Khalil Mack, getting only one sack, two quarterback hits and two tackles for loss as Goff had plenty of time in the pocket.
Cook caught nine of Carr’s passes for 180 yards, while Marshawn Lynch rushed for 41 yards and a touchdown on 11 carries.
The Raiders finished with 11 penalties for 155 yards with 145 of the penalty yards coming in the first half.
September 11, 2018 at 2:40 am in reply to: tweets & articles on the Oakland game … + Raiders fans post-game reactions #90677
znModeratorThree takeaways from the Rams’ win over the Raiders
Alexis Mansanarez
The slow start just gave Los Angeles time to fire up its weapons, finally unleashing Todd Gurley, Brandin Cooks and Cooper Kupp to help lead the Rams to a 33-13 win over the Raiders and silencing an electrifying crowd.
Questions surrounded the second game of Monday Night Football’s doubleheader, mostly regarding Jon Gruden letting Khalil Mack slip through his fingers, but for a defensive unit missing its most explosive player things weren’t all bad — that is until the Rams came out to do what they do best.
Beast Mode topples Aaron Donald and company
The first touchdown of the Gruden era came from Oakland native Marshawn Lynch, who went full Beast Mode with the help of his offensive line to help put the Raiders up.
HOW?!
BEASTMODE carries the WHOLE defense into the end zone! #LARvsOAK #RaiderNation pic.twitter.com/KF12UVZ9jQ
— NFL (@NFL) September 11, 2018
The Raiders eventually carried a 13-10 lead into halftime, continually breaking through the Los Angeles defense with passing routes to veteran tight end Jared Cook and Jalen Richard, mixing in Lynch on the ground.
While Lynch scored Oakland’s only touchdown of the first half, quarterback Derek Carr managed to keep the Raiders’ offense on the field for over 21 minutes, but it wouldn’t take long for the visitors to respond.
The Rams just needed a warmup
Los Angeles entered the game as the NFL’s reigning No. 1 offense but didn’t look like it in the opening half.Praised as Super Bowl contenders, the Rams mustered up a four-play touchdown drive and a field goal to keep up with the Raiders but still seemed unable to piece together plays needed to have substantial drives down the field.
The break at halftime helped as they returned to outscore Oakland 10-0 in the third quarter. By the time Los Angeles entered the final quarter, they were up 20-13 and began to steadily wear out the defensive unit that is reeling from the loss of Mack.
Goff finished the game 18-of-33 for 233 yards and two touchdowns, with the bulk of his production coming late, like this late touchdown to put the Rams up for good.
Goff ➡️ Kupp…#LARAMS TOUCHDOWN! #LARvsOAK
📺: ESPN pic.twitter.com/xX2I6QfMwF
— NFL (@NFL) September 11, 2018
The question mark surrounding the Jon Gruden era has shrunk
Before kickoff, arguably the biggest storyline was Gruden’s failure to keep Mack. It was talked about ad nauseam and questioned by nearly everyone, but when the Raiders took the field those questions quickly dissipated.
Under Gruden, who returned to the sidelines for the first time since 2008, the Raiders fared well against a high-scoring Los Angeles team. Both sides of the ball tested whether or not the team is buying into Gruden and well, there’s still a ways to go.
The hot start quickly burned out and Carr couldn’t keep the same energy against the Rams’ defense. The lack of discipline Carr showed in some of his throws, which resulted in three interceptions including a pick-six, also followed the team in other ways. The Raiders racked up 11 penalties for 146 yards — 10 of which came in the first half — something Gruden will surely have to clean up.
“In a lot of ways I’m proud of our football team and they way they competed,” Gruden said after the game. “It was a tale of two halves.”
September 11, 2018 at 2:33 am in reply to: tweets & articles on the Oakland game … + Raiders fans post-game reactions #90676
znModeratorRemade Rams defense starts slow, then slams the door
Lindsey Thiry
OAKLAND, Calif. — It was the first series of the season opener and a long-anticipated look at the Los Angeles Rams’ new star-studded defense. The result was hardly what was expected.
Under a pile of blue-and-white jerseys, Oakland Raiders running back Marshawn Lynch ran up the middle, dragging a pile that included defensive linemen Aaron Donald, Ndamukong Suh and Michael Brockers, among others, across the goal line for a 10-yard touchdown.
If anything was apparent Monday in the Rams’ 33-13 victory over the Raiders at Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum, it was that the defense needed at least a half to learn to play together — and knock off the rust.
In the first half, the unit, at times, appeared out of sync and even confused when the Raiders went up-tempo and amassed 254 yards of total offense — including 113 receiving yards by tight end Jared Cook.
After the break, the Rams defense settled in. Linebacker Cory Littleton intercepted a haphazard pass by Derek Carr with less than eight minutes to play. Then with less than two minutes to play, summer acquisition Marcus Peters intercepted a pass and returned it 50 yards for a touchdown.
Monday’s game was the first that the Rams’ new defense played together competitively.
Aaron Donald , the reigning NFL Defensive Player of the Year, held out of training camp and reported 10 days before the opener after signing a six-year, $135-million contract extension, to end a contract dispute that dated to 2017.
The remainder of the defense, including All Pro cornerbacks Marcus Peters and Aqib Talib, played only two series — seven snaps — in Week 3 of the preseason.
znModeratorCook is playing like everyone has hoped him to play…10 years ago. pic.twitter.com/jxoYOV1BcJ
— Matt Waldman (@MattWaldman) September 11, 2018
znModeratorGoff is among the league’s best at micro movements in the pocket. pic.twitter.com/4YQsurzHDn
— Matt Waldman (@MattWaldman) September 11, 2018
September 10, 2018 at 9:46 pm in reply to: chat room, 10:15 et/9:15 pt…Monday game, what's your prediction? #90662
znModeratorI’m predicting Rams 34-Raiders 6
From now on the predictions thread is yours to start. Okay?
znModeratorJoel Corry@corryjoel
An NFL team exec once told me that a hold out shouldn’t be antagonized because it’s personal to him but usually just business for the team. I had gotten intel that Jon Gruden didn’t like confrontation so we used that to help force a trade during a Bucs player holdout.
znModerator#Rams Jared Goff and #Robert Woods warming up pic.twitter.com/5cl8ID1LlC
— Vincent Bonsignore (@VinnyBonsignore) September 11, 2018
znModeratorLindsey Thiry@LindseyThiry
Tonight’s Monday Night Football game between Rams and Raiders will feature an in-game mic worn by Rams LT Andrew Whitworth. Should make for some insightful audio.==
znModeratorSchefter said Rams were very serious about trading for Mack after Donald was signed and that they had a plan to pay him for this year and then trade him at end of the year
Expanding on that.
Rams could have been facing former Raiders Khalil Mack tonight; instead, after they signed Aaron Donald, they offered Oakland 1st- and 3rd-round picks, which Raiders rejected.
Rams would have paid Mack, then traded him after this season because they couldn't afford him in 2019.
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) September 10, 2018
znModeratorSchefter said Rams were very serious about trading for Mack after Donald was signed and that they had a plan to pay him for this year and then trade him at end of the year
Expanding on that.
Rams could have been facing former Raiders Khalil Mack tonight; instead, after they signed Aaron Donald, they offered Oakland 1st- and 3rd-round picks, which Raiders rejected.
Rams would have paid Mack, then traded him after this season because they couldn't afford him in 2019.
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) September 10, 2018
September 10, 2018 at 7:58 pm in reply to: Rams waive Demby, claimed by Lions… & other roster moves #90650
znModeratorDowntown Rams@DowntownRams
#Lions claim ex-#Rams G Jamil Demby. Tried to get sneaky and get him on the practice squad. Not a good move.
znModerator"Obviously, Khalil Mack didn't want to be here."
– Jon Gruden pic.twitter.com/t1NQzF5bVo
— NFL on ESPN (@ESPNNFL) September 10, 2018
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.@Broncos @VonMiller is the ultimate game changer. It’s far more than talent, moves, or anything else. He knows the game and when it’s time to change the game. #BaldyBreakdowns pic.twitter.com/8zEMHD9DsJ
— Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) September 10, 2018
znModeratorRampage2K-
On NFL Live just now…Schefter said Rams were very serious about trading for Mack after Donald was signed and that they had a plan to pay him for this year and then trade him at end of the year to get the picks back. Would have been a hellava one year rental…can you imagine Donald, Mack, Suh and Brock on the same line???
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Vincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
As bleak as things looked for #Rams after stumbling their 1st season back in L.A., there was quiet confidence in organization they hit home runs with Jared Goff & Sean McVay. A year later the duo looks like the kind of tandem championships are built aroundTonight? I think as long as the O-line plays well: Explosive plays. Consistency. Efficiency. New wrinkles from last year. A lot of different players getting touches.
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Ryan Kartje@Ryan_Kartje
When I asked the Rams secondary about Marcus Peters, they universally noted that Peters doesn’t get enough credit for his intelligence.==
Rich Hammond@Rich_Hammond
Spotted Sean McVay walking outside the hotel, some paperwork in hand. I presume he was exercising and not pacing for hours, but I wouldn’t guarantee it.==
September 10, 2018 at 1:06 pm in reply to: chat room, 10:15 et/9:15 pt…Monday game, what's your prediction? #90634
znModeratorIs it time yet?
September 10, 2018 at 11:46 am in reply to: setting up the Raiders game, w/ PFF, & also what Raiders fans are saying #90632
znModeratorGame Preview: Rams, Raiders Square Off in Monday Night Showdown
Clarence Dennis
https://www.therams.com/news/game-preview-rams-raiders-square-off-in-monday-night-showdown
The Rams are set to open the 2018 season against the Raiders on Monday Night Football.
For Los Angeles, the matchup means a primetime stage for the debut of coordinator Wade Phillips’ newly stacked defense, Jared Goff’s first chance to air it out to newly-acquired wide receiver Brandin Cooks, and the first opportunity to live up to a defending NFC West Champion and Super Bowl-favorite level of hype.
For the Raiders, Week 1 arrives at the end of a whirlwind summer in the Bay Area. The Raiders recently traded away the anchor of its defense in linebacker Khalil Mack. Monday also marks the return of head coach Jon Gruden, who will be on NFL sidelines this season for the first time in 10 years.
The game comes with some historical significance for pro football in California. The Rams are making NFL noise in L.A. for the first time since 1990’s Raiders playoff pushes, and the Raiders are awaiting another franchise move to Vegas.
Monday night will also bring a showdown between two offensive minds in Gruden and Rams’ head coach Sean McVay. In 2008, Gruden offered McVay his first job in the NFL as an assistant in Tampa Bay. Ten years later, McVay’s biggest season yet starts with his former boss standing in the way.
On Wednesday, Gruden said he looks forward to facing McVay’s nationally-hyped Rams in primetime.
“I thought that’s a hell of an opportunity for us to play a team everybody’s talking about. We’ll see exactly where we are in a great stage – Monday Night Football. I look forward to competing with everybody with the NFL, I’m sure he feels the same,” Gruden said.
McVay also talked about the chance to play Gruden on Monday night.“Looking forward to playing against the Raiders on Monday night. It’ll be the Raiders versus the Rams and it certainly is a humbling experience. You would never have a chance to be in an opportunity like what we’re at here in L.A. if it wasn’t for what the Gruden family’s done for me,” McVay said.
The Rams’ defense has dominated headlines this offseason. General manager Les Snead and the Rams front office made a handful of significant moves during pro football’s break, adding All-Pro corners Aqib Talib and Marcus Peters, as well as a five-time Pro Bowler in veteran defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh.
The three defensive newcomers made it a goal to become one cohesive unit in Phillips’ defense throughout the offseason, and just were joined by defensive tackle Aaron Donald in the nick of time for Week 1, following contract negotiations.
Now that the gang’s all here, all eyes will be on the Rams’ defense — that currently is impressive only on paper. Donald and company will do everything they can to slow down Raiders’ quarterback Derek Carr and his cast of veteran playmakers, led by receivers Amari Cooper and Jordy Nelson, and running back Marshawn Lynch.The only major personnel question mark entering game day is inside linebacker Mark Barron. McVay said on Friday that Barron is battling a sore achilles and it’s “fair to be concerned” that he may not play against Oakland.
Backup linebacker Ramik Wilson said he is ready to fill-in if necessary.
“I’ve been playing behind Mark since OTA’s and I’ve been there a while — all camp — started every preseason game, so I’m ready to go,” Wilson said.
On Thursday, defensive tackle and newly named team captain Michael Brockers said his defense must be prepared for the Raiders’ talented backfield. But readying for Week 1 is especially challenging, since Oakland’s new staff is rolling out a largely unseen playbook.
“You got to be prepared for everything. We don’t actually know what they’re going to come out in, we just got to come out and play great-execution ball,” Brockers said.The Rams will be preparing for Carr, who finished 2017 with 3,496 yards passing, 22 touchdowns, and 13 interceptions in 15 games. Monday night will also be Carr and Gruden’s first regular-season opportunity to deliver together on offense. Carr can expect pressure from any one of the three main Rams’ rushers in Suh, Donald, and Brockers, who combine for 109.5 career sacks.
“They’ll have a complicated offense that’ll try to take advantage of defenses,” Phillips said of Oakland’s new offense.
Phillips also expects Gruden to try to shake things up on the line of scrimmage.
“He’ll audible, I mean that’s what he did before. He’s a quarterback guru. He’ll have the quarterback all over the place that he feels like are good against whatever looks we give him, so I expect all that from him.”
It will be up to Gruden’s largely veteran offensive line, with the addition of rookie left tackle Kolton Miller, to protect Carr’s pocket. If Carr is forced to rush throws into the Rams’ secondary, or Miller’s NFL debut goes poorly, Phillips’ heavily-hyped unit could get off to a hot start.Peters and Talib will lead the secondary against familiar foes in the Raiders. Both corners were AFC West competitors in 2017, Peters — who has two career interceptions against Carr — with the Chiefs, and Talib, the Broncos.
“We’ve got a slight idea, but we really don’t know what they’re going to come out and run,” Talib said. “It’s going to be different than it was in the past.”
On the other side of the ball, Monday night will be the very first look at the Rams’ 2018 offense. McVay elected to sit his offensive starters for the entire preseason, including preseason Week 2 against Gruden’s Raiders, and then again in preseason Week 3, which typically thought of as a “dress rehearsal” week for starters across the league.
Goff said on Tuesday that he is ready for football that counts.
“Very excited to get out there and finally get some competitive — truly competitive — action with our offense,” Goff said. “It’ll be fun. We’re really excited. It’ll be under the lights — big-time game, Monday night. Like I said, against a good team with the Raiders and it’ll be really cool.”
Goff, Gurley, and Cooks will attack a different-looking Raider defense, following the well-documented Khalil Mack trade. Oakland traded their star linebacker just days ahead of Week 1, ending a drawn-out defensive contract negotiation of their own.Mack’s departure leaves Oakland’s defense punctuated with another question mark on top of the uncertainty that comes with coaching-staff changes.
Oakland’s defense may have their hands full with the league’s highest-scoring team from a year ago. McVay’s only major change on offense — besides backup center Austin Blythe standing in for suspended guard Jamon Brown in the first two weeks of the season — is the addition of wide receiver Brandin Cooks, who essentially replaces now-Chief Sammy Watkins.
Cooks rounds out the Rams’ receiver corps, made up of second-year receiver Cooper Kupp and Robert Woods. Cooks has posted three consecutive 1,000-yard seasons and is expected to provide a deep-ball threat in McVay’s offense.
Finally, Cooks and the Rams are expecting a rocking atmosphere on Monday night. The primetime opener against the defending NFC West champs should bring Raider Nation to full volume in Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum, in what could be the final Raiders home-opener in Oakland.
“It’s a great atmosphere to play at,” Cooks said. “Their fans, they love their team — they’re loyal. The ‘Black Hole’ is a great place to play and being the away team, it’s fun going out there.”
Kickoff for Monday’s game is set for 7:20 p.m. PDT. For more information on how to watch, click here.September 10, 2018 at 10:26 am in reply to: chat room, 10:15 et/9:15 pt…Monday game, what's your prediction? #90628
znModeratorFor you east coasters who have to work tomorrow AM, how much of the game do you think you can watch?
I’m shooting for the first quarter. Will tape the rest.
athletically this guy is a beast. i’ve talked about this before, but as excited as everyone was to read about the rams aggressively pursuing mack, the rams have a guy with lots of potential already in samson.
I read that the Rams made inquiries, but weren’t really seriously pursuing him. They were never among the teams that were in the running for him.
I think they were serious. They weren’t in the running because Oakland thinks their picks would be too low.
On the game.
I will watch the whole thing.
I never go to bed till 2 AM anyway so it’s nothing new.
znModeratorI saw the Patriots won. I believe they had 3 grade-school kids playing the WR positions.
How long can one team be this good?
Am i ever going to get to see them implode?
Their excellence gnaws at my soul.
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vI can’t watch the Patz. I live in Patz territory and get enough of them as it is. I don’t hate them the way I did the old Staubach Cowboys, but to quote the movie Barfly, I don’t hate the Patz, but I seem to feel better when they’re not around.
The GREAT game yesterday was Bears/Packers. Did you catch any of that?
znModerator@AZCardinals Sam Bradford must move past disaster of opener https://t.co/ZLwni4Yesn via @WritingMoore
— Matt Wilhalme🏈🏒🌮 (@MattWilhalme) September 10, 2018
znModeratorAdam Schein@AdamSchein
2018 Bears are the 2017 Rams. What a difference a coach makes!==
Alden Gonzalez@Alden_Gonzalez
Bears should send the Raiders another first-round pick, just as a thank you.==
Matt Bowen@MattBowen41
Awesome performance by Rodgers. Banged up. Has to stay in the pocket. And he takes over the 2nd half.==
Ian Rapoport@RapSheet
Aaron Rodgers is a magician. But: 1. At one point last year it was a foregone conclusion that Randall Cobb would be released, except they kept him and he’s still got juice. 2. There is no way the #Packers secondary of 2017 could’ve covered at the end like this version did. Big W.==
Steve Wyche@wyche89
I got to see Tyreek Hill show out today against the Chargers. Didn’t think anyone would show out more than him today, then @AaronRodgers12 played and that was that. What a Week 1.—
A thing of beauty pic.twitter.com/iyUUti6zgy
— Brandon Bate (@NoPlanB_) September 9, 2018
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Worth. Every. Penny pic.twitter.com/wTQOVMMTJ6
— Warren Sharp (@SharpFootball) September 10, 2018
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That dude.@AaronRodgers12 goin' DEEEEEP. 🎯#CHIvsGB #GoPackGo
📺: NBC pic.twitter.com/cinPOMvOVP
— NFL (@NFL) September 10, 2018
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It was 17-0 at the half …
And on one healthy leg, Aaron Rodgers brought the Packers all the way back 😱
(📍 NBC, 8:20pm ET)pic.twitter.com/WsODgXe810
— SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) September 10, 2018
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After coming back from a knee injury, quarterback Aaron Rodgers led the Packers to an improbable 24–23 comeback victory over the Bears on Sunday night https://t.co/pRAaSxxPxT
— The MMQB (@theMMQB) September 10, 2018
znModeratorCareer 4th Quarter Comeback/Game-Winning Drive Percentage through Week 8, 2017 (min. 16 opportunities)

znModeratormack is making the raiders look like idiots.
Packers too.
Though in a different sense.
znModeratorI watched the 9ers, Cards, and seattle lose.
Looks like Bradford is done don’t it.
znModeratorAlden Gonzalez@Alden_Gonzalez
Dear lord the Chargers have done like 15 things to cost themselves this game.Vincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
#Chargers will (probably) lose today. But they will be heard from this year. Long season. They’ve got legit talentCredit where credit is due on #49ers Jimmy Garoppolo, he’s looked mostly good since getting to San Francisco, But eight picks in six starts, including five in his last two. He didn’t react well today against pressure
znModeratorAlden Gonzalez@Alden_Gonzalez
Brandin Cooks is a better fit as a vertical threat in Sean McVay’s offense, but the Rams will miss one thing about Sammy Watkins — his downfield blocking. Showing some of that for the Chiefs today.—
Larry Holder@LarryHolder
Sean Payton on what happened on defense: “Take your pick.”—
Bill Barnwell@billbarnwell
The Browns are +5 in takeaways today. Since the Browns returned to the NFL, teams with a turnover margin of +5 or better in a game are 132-4-1. The Browns are responsible for two of those losses and the tie. -
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