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  • in reply to: reporters on the SF game (articles, tweets, vids etc.) #92661
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    in reply to: reporters on the SF game (articles, tweets, vids etc.) #92658
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    in reply to: SF game highlights #92656
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    in reply to: What Niners fans are saying…before AND after the game #92651
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    collected/formatted by LoyalRam

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    This team needs a roster reset on defense. Get rid of the entire secondary, except sherm. Strength and conditioning staff need to be fired. Saleh needs to be fired. Lynch and Shanahan are on the hot seat now.

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    Even the championships of the past are long distant memory.

    The nearly 40% predicting a Niners win are hurting with false hope. The Rams have a team.

    But the brick by brick thing is getting tired.

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    Is that prick Jed York apologizing for this trash product? Nope. 5 years of garbage football now. f**k you Jed York. We need to protest this shif. CJ Beathard and that garbage defense is unacceptable

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    I mean, we got slaughtered by the best team (by far) in the NFL.

    I’d be all for giving Mullins some playing time. Wish we could have seen him in the 4th.

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    Honestly from what I have seen out of this team I don’t think Jimmy could make a big difference.

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    Ya. We apparently have the West coast Jason Garrett who can call his own plays. As an overall coach, eehhhhh

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    Keep some perspective, the Rams are very good, and the 49ers are decimated by injury. This was the first loss of the year where we we were never in the game.

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    Why didn’t he’d close the deal with McVay on the spot? Should’ve given him 1 mil in the spot, instead of telling him to call defensive coordinators. Smh…

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    Our team is terribly injured more than terrible but we just got schooled by a much much better head coach with the best team in football. Very sorry to say

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    The buffoonery continues. Quite possibly one of the most embarrassing games ever played by this team.

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    nine and a half min remaining in the game and the rams pulled their starters…they could have hung a 50 burger on us if McVay and KS weren’t friends.

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    Let’s face it, this current 49ers team is sh*t show central!!

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    The Rams will as good or better next season as well so they aren’t going away after this season.
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    This is just as bad as the Erickson years

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    Now they are gonna ram it up our ass!

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    Amazing there’s so few people in the building eh….Such a weak azz stadium….
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    How long before people start asking for Lynch to get fired?

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    Rams might score 60+

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    Shanahan such a clueless coach holy crap.

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    Get Beathard off the field.. give him a clipboard and take his f**king cleats away from him for the rest of the damned game! Better yet… tell him the field is lava!

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    Its official, Shanny is an top 2 OC, but is NOT a HC.

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    We’ve lost every 50/50 ball, every freak play goes the Rams way.

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    Let’s face it. We are outmatched.

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    Donald is a man beast

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    Helping his case to be the best DL player in the NFL. He didn’t need to prove that

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    Donald should thank CJ Beathard in his DPOY speech.

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    Even our blocked punts travel forward

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    Why arnt the Rams passing the ball? Have they seen our secondary or any tape?

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    Lol glorified practice for them

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    Dumb teams lose in dumb ways
    And this team is epic dumb. Like, special dumb.

    in reply to: reporters on the SF game (articles, tweets, vids etc.) #92648
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    Rich Hammond@Rich_Hammond
    That was the Rams’ biggest margin of victory (29 points) over the 49ers since a 34-3 victory in 1966.

    Vincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
    #Rams Cory Littleton on being 7-0. “It doesn’t matter to us. We’re 0-0 every week.” (He means it too)

    Just throwing this out there: Cory Littleton is a restricted free agent at the end of this year.

    Lindsey Thiry@LindseyThiry
    Today was the sixth time in the last two seasons the Rams won a game by 29+ points. No other team has more than two such wins, per @ESPNStatsInfo.

    J.B. Long@JB_Long
    The #LARams have scored 30+ points for the 15th time in 23 regular season games under Sean McVay (in one of those games, he rested his starters).

    The @RamsNFL scored 30+ points exactly 15 times in the 9 YEARS prior to his arrival (2008-2016).

    The @RamsNFL are the first #NFL team to win back-to-back-to-back road games since the 2014 Bengals.

    *(Yes, #LARams also won atJAX, in London, atNYG last year…but of course that doesn’t count due to obvious technicalities. Still impressive.)

    Joe Curley@vcsjoecurley
    Todd Gurley ties Kansas City’s Priest Holmes (2002 and 2004) with 14 TDs through seven games in an NFL season, per CBS broadcast @DowntownRams @CVRamsClub #LARvsSF @usatodaynfl

    The “Greatest Show on Turf” teams of 1999, 2000 and 2001 all lost their seventh game after starting 6-0.

    Rams24/7@Rams24_7
    With 3 more TDs today Todd Gurley has 14 on the year through 7 games. If he continues at this pace he’ll top LT’s single-season record (31 TDs) with 32. We should start leaving out the “OD” in his name and just start calling him Td Gurley

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    Didn’t watch the game, but I see they had to bench Goff at the end of the game. What a wasted pick

    Slow down there. We should give him a couple more games before we start calling him a bust.

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    Donald: 9 tackles, 6 TFL, 4 sacks, 1 forced fumble, 1 fumble recovery.

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    in reply to: Rams vs. 49ers – Inactives & tweets for 10/21 #92627
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    Rich Hammond@Rich_Hammond
    Warmups indicate no changes for Rams…Longacre starting at OLB (after he left last week with back spasms) and Hill at CB opposite Peters.

    Greg Zuerlein just made a 53-yarder in warmups so I think he’s ready.

    Rams are without WR Cooper Kupp (knee) today, but 49ers are without CBs Richard Sherman (calf) and Jimmie Ward (hamstring).

    J.B. Long@JB_Long
    No prime time, no problem? Let’s face it, SF got flexed out of prime time, not LA. Who’s more dialed in at 1:25p: the undefeated Rams or the 49ers, who are coming off another heart-wrenching defeat in Green Bay and a short week of preparation?

    Levi’s wasn’t the site of Jared Goff’s first win, but we’ll look back and remember Week 3 of 2017 as the turning point in his career. In a shootout, he completed 79% and passed for 3 TD. His record is 16-3 since.

    Todd Gurley’s 11 TDs are the most through 6 games since Shaun Alexander’s MVP season of 2005. If he scores again today, he’ll be tied for 2nd in franchise history with a TD in 10 consecutive games, trailing only Crazy Legs Hirsh (1950-51).

    49ers secondary is not good, and they’re banged up. Jimmie Ward is doubtful. Richard Sherman is a game-time decision. And even with them, SF is allowing 58% completion and 30ppg, both second-worst in the NFL. Goff and McVay should have a field day in great conditions.

    Beware of DeForest Buckner, though. He’s the real deal, with 4.5 sacks already this season. Will be curious to see if he lines up over Rodger Saffold to test the Rams RG and his knee. Goff was sacked a season-high 5x last week, and McVay took the blame for all of them, absolving his offensive line.

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    in reply to: Rams @ 49ers #92618
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    He was a story invented by unscrupulous front office execs who wanted to undermine Dieter Brock’s legendary status so they could install their sycophant, Jeff Kemp at QB.

    Sounds like a theory conspiracy. Or, whatever it’s called.

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    Online radio might be nice too if anyone can find it.

    RADIO: Sunday’s contest will be broadcast on ESPNLA 710 AM and simulcast on 93.1 JACK FM. The English broadcast will feature Voice of the Rams J.B. Long on play-by-play, with Maurice Jones-Drew as color analyst, and D’Marco Farr on the sidelines. Plus, tune into 1330 AM for ESPN Deportes’ live Spanish broadcast of the game with Troy Santiago and Ricardo Lopez on the call.

    I think this is a link to 710 AM: http://www.espn.com/espnradio/losangeles/play?s=la

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    49ers vs. Rams live stream: Watch 2018 NFL Week 7 game online

    https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/49ers/49ers-vs-rams-live-stream-watch-2018-nfl-week-7-game-online

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    After today, the names Goff and Brock may forever be entwined in Rams lore as symbols of gridiron dominance and supremacy.

    Well I’m not that big on football history, but, it seems to me the 85 Rams relied less on Brock than they did on that Dick Erickson guy. The running back. The one who got 1000 yards.

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    in reply to: reporters set up the SF game #92605
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    Does everyone know that the Rams have not gone 7-0 since 1985?

    1985 Los Angeles Rams

    in reply to: some tweets … 10/20 #92603
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    Jim Fadler@jimistlboy
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    Next weekend I will be in San Francisco for the #Rams vs 49ers and even better with both my sons

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    in reply to: articles from 10/20 #92601
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    Evan Silva@evansilva
    Last year, #Rams ran league-high 81% snaps in 11. They’ve upped it this year (95%). Since McVay took over, Gurley has *89* more carries vs 6-man boxes than any other RB in NFL. He’s averaging 5.5 YPC vs 6-man fronts this season. But a below-league-average 3.7 YPC vs 7-man fronts.

    Ari@FFesq
    Expect to Woods out of the slot a lot this week with Reynolds the sacrificial lamb on the outside with Sherman

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    in reply to: Goff: the October thread #92595
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    Max

    I listened to Dan Orlovsky talk about Goff yesterday. He said media gets all caught up in the combine measurements, size, strength, speed, athleticism, and all those funky tests. Then he said a lot of these QBs look great in the drills, they can throw the ball a mile, but they can’t play QB in the NFL. He said Goff is the opposite. You look at him, and physically there’s not much to look at, but he can make amazingly accurate throws from crazy positions. He talked about that TD to Kupp where Goff’s body was set to throw the ball left and he threads the needle to the right side of the end zone. Maybe 5 guys in the world can make that throw.

    Follow-up from Max

    Orlowsky interview with Robert Mays on The Ringer. He really gets Goff. He said the best thing about Goff is he’s unflappable. No matter what happens he’s got no memory. He’ll throw a few balls and you’ll say huh? Then he’ll make some amazing throws right after that. Orlowsky said that’s not easy, he himself could never do it. It’s very hard not to let stuff affect you. Goff just doesn’t care what anyone thinks about him. Perfect, especially for LA. He thinks Goff will be a superstar in LA. He said right now Goff is very very very good.

    Stop short of calling him great and I think that’s very fair. Goff isn’t great yet right now, IMO.

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    Depleted 49ers secondary should lead to big day for Jared Goff, Rams WRs
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    Depleted 49ers secondary should lead to big day for Jared Goff, Rams WRs

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    in reply to: Glen Greenwald on saudi's and the MSM #92590
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    Jamal Khashoggi’s death and the crackdown within Saudi Arabia’s borders

    link: https://thinkprogress.org/journalists-death-highlights-crackdowns-in-saudi-where-arrests-keep-coming-99cc0b3b5312/

    In the last piece he wrote for The Washington Post, published on Wednesday night, Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi worried about the world turning a blind eye to the media crackdown in the Arab world.

    Highlighting journalist arrests in his native country as well as in Egypt, Khashoggi wrote, “These actions no longer carry the consequence of a backlash from the international community. Instead, these actions may trigger condemnation quickly followed by silence.”

    This is the last time we will see his byline. Khashoggi walked into the Saudi consulate on Oct. 2 and has not been seen since. Turkish officials, citing growing stacks of damning evidence, say he was murdered in a most gruesome fashion within the walls of that consulate. Turkish police are searching wooded areas outside Istanbul in connection with the case.

    Saudi Arabia has thus far denied any knowledge of what happened to Khashoggi, and President Donald Trump is in full support of that line, although on Thursday his Secretary of the Treasury Steve Mnuchin said that he — like many others — will not be attending a major conference in Saudi Arabia later this month. He did not mention the outcry over Khashoggi as a reason for his decision.

    U.S. asks Saudi to investigate itself on Khashoggi death, but Turkey could complicate things
    Assuming the Turkish investigators are correct, what happened to Khashoggi, while shocking in its open violence, is not unique in the Gulf Arab kingdom. Activists and journalists with far fewer means and connections — to say nothing of the attention that comes with having the readership of The Washington Post — are routinely arrested there.

    Those Saudi citizens, many unknown to the West, are detained in what Sherine Tadros, head of the U.N. office for Amnesty International in New York, describes as crackdowns happening “in the shadows.”

    “This incident didn’t happen in isolation, it didn’t happen in a vacuum. It is part of an aggressive and escalated crackdown on dissenting voices that we’ve seen really escalate since June 2017, when the crown prince, Mohammed bin Salman, took up his position,” said Tadros.

    The crown prince has gone after “anyone who has a different narrative about what’s going on in Saudi Arabia, anyone who dares question him,” she said, listing clerics, academics, journalists, and human rights activists — including Loujain al-Hathloul, Aziza al Yousef, and Eman al-Nafjan, who advocated for women’s right to drive in Saudi.

    Arbitrarily detained since May, there’s little information on what’s happening with those activists.

    Sherif Mansour, the Middle East and North Africa program coordinator at the Committee to Protect Journalists (CPJ) is dismayed that all of the arrests — even ones that directly contradict Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman’s “agenda of reform” have yet to prompt the U.S. to rethink its relationship of Saudi Arabia.

    As Saudi women get the right to drive, activists who fought for that right remain jailed
    “The crackdowns against bloggers and human rights activists — the ones who advocated for years for women’s right to drive — continue, even though this [giving women the right to drive] was a key component of the reform agenda that the crown prince presented and was celebrated,” said Mansour.

    “These arrests [and CPJ’s efforts to highlight them] were not cause enough for a critical review this agenda, and … the arrests kept coming. There are more journalists there behind bars this year than last year,” he said.

    This climate of crisis in journalism, he added, has been exacerbated by the U.S. failing to step up an “take leadership on press freedom,” including in Khashoggi’s case.

    CPJ on Thursday joined Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International, and Reporters Without Borders at the United Nations in New York to call for an impartial, international investigation into Khashoggi’s case within six weeks.

    The status of the investigation remains in doubt. While Turkish authorities are pushing ahead, the Saudis continue to deny any wrongdoing. A former CIA expert told ThinkProgress earlier this week that the Saudis are likely to hang one or more of the 15-man team who is said to have played a role in killing Khashoggi out to dry.

    Experts cast doubt on Saudi excuse as horrific details of Jamal Khashoggi’s death surface
    “If I’m one of the guys who is member of the 15-member detail, I’m going to be real nervous about going home,” John Nixon told ThinkProgress on Tuesday. And, sure enough, by Thursday, Turkish media reported that one of the 15 men, Mashal Saad al-Bostani, a lieutenant of the Saudi Royal Air Force, had died in a “suspicious car accident” in the Saudi capital of Riyadh, with speculation rampant on the Saudi crown prince doing whatever necessary to get rid of witnesses and evidence.

    Tadros said that Saudi Arabia needs to be called out for their actions, “so they are not able to simply whitewash this, and conduct their own internal investigation and say ‘Job done, let’s move on.”

    A fair U.N. investigation, she said, is the “best shot at depoliticizing what has become a very politicized incident.”

    “We can see what is happening — we can see the visit by [Secretary of State Mike] Pompeo to Riyadh, we can see what the Turks are leaking to the media, but not saying anything on record — it’s very clear what’s going on,” said Tadros.

    “We are fighting a David-and-Goliath type battle here.”

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    Khashoggi: From Saudi Royal Insider to Open Critic to Gruesome Victim

    https://www.juancole.com/2018/10/khashoggi-insider-gruesome.html

    Dubai (AFP) – A complex man of contradictions, journalist Jamal Khashoggi went from being a Saudi royal family insider to an outspoken critic of the ultra-conservative kingdom’s government, and was ultimately killed inside its consulate in Istanbul.

    In his final column for The Washington Post, Khashoggi perhaps presciently pleaded for greater freedom of expression in the Middle East.

    “The Arab world is facing its own version of an Iron Curtain, imposed not by external actors but through domestic forces vying for power,” he wrote.

    “The Arab world needs a modern version of the old transnational media so citizens can be informed about global events. More important, we need to provide a platform for Arab voices,” Khashoggi wrote.

    Now his voice has been permanently silenced.

    The Saudi journalist — who disappeared after entering his country’s consulate in Istanbul on October 2 to obtain marriage papers — went into self-imposed exile in the United States in 2017 after falling out with Saudi’s powerful Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman.

    His disappearance has been shrouded in mystery, and triggered an international crisis for both Riyadh and Washington as Turkish officials accused Saudi Arabia of a state-sponsored killing.

    Riyadh, after insisting that Khashoggi left its consulate alive, finally said over two weeks after his disappearance that he died in a fight that arose from a dispute with people he met there.

    As a young journalist, Khashoggi interviewed Osama bin Laden several times, garnering international attention, but later distanced himself from the man who called for violence against the West

    Khashoggi came from a prominent Saudi family with Turkish origins.

    His grandfather, Mohammed Khashoggi, was the personal doctor of Saudi Arabia’s founder, King Abdul Aziz al-Saud. His uncle was the notorious arms dealer Adnan Khashoggi.

    A friend of a young Osama bin Laden, a Muslim Brotherhood sympathiser, an aide to the Saudi royal family, a critic of the kingdom’s regime and a liberal — such conflicting descriptions were all ascribed to Khashoggi.

    After graduating from Indiana State University in 1982, he began working for Saudi dailies, including the Saudi Gazette and Al-Sharq al-Awsat.

    When he was sent to cover the conflict in Afghanistan, a picture of a young Khashoggi holding an assault rifle and dressed in Afghan clothing was widely disseminated.

    Khashoggi did not fight in the country, but sympathised with the mujahideen in the 1980s war against the Soviet occupation, which was funded by the Saudis and the CIA.

    He was known to have been drawn to the Muslim Brotherhood’s policies seeking to erase the remnants of Western colonialism from the Arab world.

    It was this shared vision that brought him closer to a young Osama bin Laden, who went on to found Al-Qaeda, which carried out the September 11, 2001 attacks on the United States.

    As a young journalist, Khashoggi interviewed bin Laden several times, garnering international attention. But later in the 1990s, he distanced himself from the man who called for violence against the West.

    – ‘Too progressive’ –

    Born in the Saudi holy city of Medina on October 13, 1958, Khashoggi spent his youth studying Islamic ideology and embraced liberal ideas.

    But Saudi authorities came to see Khashoggi as too progressive and he was forced to resign as editor-in-chief of the Saudi daily Al-Watan in 2003 after serving just 54 days.

    Over the years, he maintained ambiguous ties with Saudi authorities, having held advisory positions in Riyadh and Washington, including to Prince Turki al-Faisal, who ran Saudi Arabia’s intelligence agency for more than 20 years.

    When Faisal was appointed ambassador to Washington in 2005, Khashoggi went with him.

    In 2007, Khashoggi returned to Al-Watan newspaper, lasting almost three years before being fired for “his editorial style, pushing boundaries of discussion and debate within Saudi society,” according to Khashoggi’s website.

    He became close to Saudi billionaire Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal and together they launched in Manama a 24-hour news station, Al-Arab.

    However, Bahrain — a staunch Saudi ally — shut the station down in 2015, less than 24 hours after it broadcast an interview with an opposition official.

    – ‘Fear, intimidation’ –

    AFP/File / OZAN KOSE. Khashoggi went to the Saudi consulate in Istanbul in order to obtain paperwork to marry his Turkish fiancee Hatice Cengiz.

    Khashoggi fled Saudi Arabia in September 2017, just months after Prince Mohammed was appointed heir to the region’s most powerful throne.

    Months later, Prince Al-Waleed and hundreds of officials and businessmen were arrested in November 2017 in what the Saudis called an anti-corruption campaign.

    In an article published in the Post last year, Khashoggi, whose 60th birthday was on October 13, said that under Prince Mohammed — the kingdom’s de facto ruler — Saudi Arabia was entering a new era of “fear, intimidation, arrests and public shaming.”

    He said he had been banned from writing in the pan-Arab daily Al-Hayat for defending the Muslim Brotherhood, which Riyadh has blacklisted as a terrorist organisation.

    And he said Saudi authorities had barred him from using his verified Twitter account after he said the country should be “rightfully nervous about a Trump presidency.”

    Trump has expressed support for Crown Prince Mohammed, and his son-in-law and advisor Jared Kushner has deliberately cultivated close ties with the prince, known as MBS.

    Khashoggi, who was due to marry his Turkish fiancee Hatice Cengiz this month, also criticised Saudi Arabia’s role in the Yemen conflict and opposed a Saudi-led boycott of Qatar.

    “For his domestic reform programme, the crown prince deserves praise. But at the same time, the brash and abrasive young innovator has not encouraged or permitted any popular debate in Saudi Arabia about the nature of his many changes,” Khashoggi wrote in the British daily The Guardian in March.

    “He appears to be moving the country from old-time religious extremism to his own ‘You-must-accept-my-reform’ extremism.”

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    Khashoggi Picked the Wrong Prince

    That was a good read. But it’s a little murky on why they killed him.

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    How The 49ers Can Make A Statement Against Todd Gurley And The Undefeated Rams

    Vincent Frank

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/vincentfrank/2018/10/19/how-the-49ers-can-make-a-statement-against-todd-gurley-and-the-undefeated-rams/#505b1c094a67

    The San Francisco 49ers aren’t going to magically flip the switch after six games and somehow become the playoff contender most expected them to be at the start of the season. Monday night’s loss to the Green Bay Packers assured that the elegant tank is on. There will be no meaningful January football in Santa Clara. From here on out, it’s all about progression on the field and narratives being thrown in the team’s direction from media folk like myself.

    This week’s narrative against the Los Angeles Rams is pretty simple. Kyle Shanahan’s squad has an opportunity to make a statement. Let’s rephrase that. Kyle Shanahan’s squad has to make a statement in front of its home crowd and with the franchise unveiling its “The Catch” statue outside of Levi’s Stadium.

    What’s this statement we speak of? It’s rather clear. It’s not about winning. It’s about remaining competitive and showing that a lost season won’t define how the team plays on the field over the final 10 games.

    The division-rival Rams head into Week 7 as the NFL’s only undefeated team. They rank No. 3 in the league in scoring at 32.7 points per game. They are seventh in points allowed at less than 20 per outing. Both Jared Goff and Todd Gurley are legitimate MVP candidates. Sean McVay has one-upped Kyle Shanahan as the most-dynamic young play caller and head coach in the NFL.

    Every single thing is working in the Rams’ favor heading into this game. As Goff and Gurley do their thing, the 49ers are relying on backups at the game’s most important offensive positions. As Wade Phillips continues to make his mark as one of the greatest defensive minds in the game, fellow coordinator Robert Saleh is struggling in San Francisco. Everything here is pointing to a blowout win for the Rams and a 1-6 start to the season in Northern California.

    But.

    Yes, there’s a but here. There’s also reason for optimism in San Francisco. Not optimism that the 49ers can pull out a much-needed win. That remains far-fetched. There’s optimism that they can stick with the NFL’s best team through four quarters, leading fans to remain entertained instead of wondering why they wasted a beautiful fall day in sunny California.

    There’s certainly matchups that favor the 49ers in this one. This year’s track record for both teams also suggests that we might not be privy to a blowout that some in the national media are predicting.

    After running roughshod through their first three opponents, outscoring them by a combined 66 points, Los Angeles has fallen back to earth some. Each of its last three wins have come by seven points or less. That includes a combined margin of victory of five points against the Seahawks and Broncos over the past two weeks.

    Meanwhile, the 49ers’ elegant tank tells us a story of a competitive team. Three of San Francisco’s five losses have come by one score. That includes games against the Chargers and Packers that this team could have very well won if it made plays in the fourth quarter. Of the two games San Francisco lost by more than one score, Week 3’s defeat at the hands of the one-win Arizona Cardinals was an outlier of sorts. Shanahan’s squad turned the ball over a whopping five times. It also put up 33 first downs compared to 10 for the Cardinals. Not to be outdone in that category, the 49ers held on to the ball for north of 40 minutes and out-gained Arizona, 447-220.

    These are all indications the 49ers can keep Sunday’s game close.

    The bad news? Those above-mentioned five turnovers. San Francisco ranks dead last in the NFL in turnover margin at minus-11. That includes eight giveaways and zero takeaways over the past two games. That’s also the caveat here. If San Francisco continues this trend, it’s not going to beat even the lowly Cardinals or Raiders moving forward. Everything else is moot.

    Assuming for a second Shanahan and Co. have turned the page from these past two games, there’s a darn good chance San Francisco remains competitive on Sunday. Its defense has performed well against the run. That could enable the 49ers to focus more on stopping Jared Goff and Co. through the air. After all, San Francisco is yielding 14 passing touchdowns compared to one interception on the year. Honing in on the passing game while being able to stop Gurley without stacking the box would be huge.

    Offensively, San Francisco is averaging the third-most rushing yards per game and is tied for the top mark in yards per rush. It’s also taking on a Rams defense that’s yielding a whopping 4.8 yards per rush. Shanahan must scheme to his strengths here. That means committing and staying committed to the run. It will lead to ball-control offense, keeping the Rams’ top-ranked offense off the field.

    And in reality, that’s what we need to see from this coaching staff. Shanahan is among the best in the game in drawing up game plans and schemes. But he tends to lose focus on what the strengths of San Francisco’s offense are throughout the game. Taking on another offensive genius in Sean McVay, Sunday’s game gives Shanahan an opportunity to make a major statement. Sure McVay and the Rams might be the toast of the NFL right now. That’s fine. But bad injury luck and a lost season isn’t going to stop Shanahan from proving he’s right up there with his younger counterpart.

    That narrative includes the entire 49ers team. They must prove that the gap moving forward in the NFC West is nowhere near as big as it seems right now. Los Angeles has more combined wins than the other three teams in the division. That’s fine. It’s also six weeks of action.

    If we’re looking at this same huge gap between Los Angeles and San Francisco come December, there’s going to be major long-term issues for the Northern California franchise. A path back to relevance in the NFC West won’t be short. But it must start Sunday at Levi’s Stadium. That’s how the 49ers can make a statement.

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    Inside the dynamic plays and schemes built by Shanahan and McVay

    Nick Wagoner

    http://www.espn.com/blog/san-francisco-49ers/post/_/id/32694/inside-the-dynamic-plays-and-schemes-built-by-shanahan-and-mcvay

    SANTA CLARA, Calif. — For four years with the Washington Redskins, Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVay spent many long hours talking about and building the offensive scheme and philosophies that are now so prominent on the NFL landscape.

    Those conversations continued even after Shanahan left to become offensive coordinator in Cleveland and Atlanta and after McVay was promoted to replace Shanahan under Jay Gruden in Washington.

    Now, as the two youngest head coaches in the NFL, Shanahan and McVay find their talks — at least when it comes to football — a bit more limited. Such is life when you go from bright, young offensive assistants to the head coaches of the division rival San Francisco 49ers and Los Angeles Rams.

    “Any time that we cross paths at the combine or whatever it might be, we always enjoy talking ball and it doesn’t have to be anything where you’re giving your secrets away,” McVay said.

    “But so much of what I’ve learned, it’s really, we’re operating in a very similar manner.

    I wish he wasn’t in our division and we didn’t have to play twice a year so that we could be a little bit more open with our dialogue and I feel the same way with a lot of those coaches I have close relationships with on (the 49ers staff).

    But, we’re fortunate to even be in these roles. So we’ll take it, but I would prefer not to have Kyle Shanahan in our division.”

    While Shanahan and McVay haven’t coached together since Shanahan departed Washington in 2013, much of what they did there is popping up all over the league, particularly on the heels of McVay’s masterful turnaround of the Rams’ offense in 2017.

    Shanahan and McVay’s shared offensive approach actually began when each took a turn learning under Jon Gruden in their first NFL jobs in the mid-2000s.

    When Shanahan and McVay moved on to Washington after Mike Shanahan became head coach in 2010, it set the stage for a more free-flowing exchange of ideas. It was in those Redskins meeting rooms where many of the basic principles were refined.

    Now, for anyone who closely watches the Rams and 49ers, their similarities are hard to ignore.

    A few calling cards — such as the use of play-action, pre-snap motion and deceptive use of “minus” splits — permeate both offenses.

    But those are smaller pieces of the larger philosophy that makes a Shanahan and McVay offense go: creating down-to-down deception while presenting the same look.

    “It’s all about not creating tendencies,” said running back Alfred Morris, who played for Washington under Shanahan and McVay. “It’s ‘Oh, they’ll never do this and this out of this set or this formation’ and then you try to game plan and it’s like ‘No, they actually will.’”

    Coincidentally, while the Niners and Rams look the same offensively in terms of concepts, they mostly look different when it comes to personnel. The Niners favor ’21’ personnel, which features two running backs, a tight end and two wide receivers.

    The Rams prefer ’11’ personnel, which features one running back, one tight end and three receivers.

    That’s not a product of belief in either set so much as a reaction to the specific talent each team has in place. For the Niners, ’21’ makes sense because they have Kyle Juszczyk, one of the most versatile and dangerous fullbacks in the league.

    For the Rams, ’11’ is the easy choice because they boast a dynamic trio of wideouts in Brandin Cooks, Cooper Kupp and Robert Woods.

    “It’s a key philosophy that they have offensively, and something that we’ve taken that I really learned from coach Shanahan,” McVay said.

    “And I think when you look at successful offenses throughout the league, or people that have been doing it for a while, there’s a clear-cut identity but there’s also a level of uncertainty with regards to what’s coming next.”

    Through six weeks, the 49ers offense ranks 11th in yards, ninth in passing yards per attempt and third in rushing yards per attempt.

    That’s mostly without the services of starting quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo and No. 1 running back Jerick McKinnon, both of whom suffered season-ending ACL injuries.

    In terms of deploying ’21’ personnel, nobody in the league is even close to San Francisco. The Niners have used the alignment on 167 of their 390 offensive snaps, easily the most in the league.

    They’ve accumulated 1,250 yards of offense from that formation, which is more than double the amount of the New England Patriots, who are second. They’re also averaging nearly 11 yards per pass (sixth in NFL) and 5 yards per rush (eighth).

    For the Rams, the commitment and results from ’11’ personnel is unmatched by any team in the league.

    The Rams have run 389 total snaps this season and only 16 of those plays have come from a formation that wasn’t ’11.’

    As you’d suspect, the Rams’ league-leading offense has posted 2,732 yards from that set, the tops in the NFL, and is averaging the second-most yards per passing attempt and eighth most rushing yards per attempt from it.

    Here, ESPN NFL analyst Matt Bowen provides a couple of examples of how the Rams and Niners run similar concepts from different formations.

    Play-action is a key staple for each offense, especially on early downs.

    Bowen said that is often paired with pre- and post-snap movements, vertical routes from receivers lined up inside the numbers to keep the safeties in check and some sort of action that looks like an outside zone run.

    The idea, according to Bowen, is to pull those linebackers toward the line of scrimmage and create an opening at the second level for the quarterback to throw in rhythm.

    Here’s a look at Bowen’s breakdowns:

    Play No. 1 (Play-Action Dig Route)

    Let’s start with the Rams’ play-action dig concept out of 11 personnel. Using the pre-snap jet motion with the Z receiver — while adding in the split-flow run game with the tight end (Y) blocking backside and the running back (H) on the outside zone path —

    the Rams can grab the eyes of the second-level defenders. And with the slot receiver (W) pressing down the field to occupy both single-high and two-high safety sets, the backside receiver (X) can break back to the middle of the field.

    There is now an open void for the quarterback to deliver the ball off the play-action fake.

    This is a similar play for San Francisco. This is a two-back look for the 49ers on the outside zone (or stretch) scheme with the fullback leading (F) and the running back (H) pressing to the edge.

    Here the 49ers add in the tight end (Y) blocking backside to create that split-flow camouflage for the defense. But the route is the same, with the X receiver occupying the top of the secondary and the Z receiver breaking to the middle of the field on the dig route.

    Create a void — and expose it.

    Play No. 2 (Play-Action Yankee Route)

    The “Yankee” route pairs the outside vertical/post with a deep over route, or crossing route. Again, the scheme blends with both coaches, but the personnel — and the pre/post-snap movement — presents a different look.

    With the Rams, we again see 11 personnel on the field. Here, L.A. shows the pre-snap jet motion/sweep (Z) and the split-flow outside zone play-action, as the tight end (Y) blocks backside and the running back (H) presses the edge.

    This will force the linebackers downhill and generate open space. Now, send the X receiver down the field on the vertical or the post to pull the cornerback with him, with the slot receiver (W) working back across the field on the over route.

    This is a classic zone beater that creates a clean, open window throw.

    In the 49ers’ version Shanahan runs it out of 12 personnel with the same split-flow backfield look.

    But instead of using pre-snap jet motion, the 49ers show the post-snap wide receiver reverse (Z).

    And the route doesn’t change, with the X receiver clearing out and the second tight end in the game (U) running the deep over route to the void in the coverage.

    When the 49ers and Rams tangle on Sunday afternoon at Levi’s Stadium, it’s a good bet that these plays and/or some variation of them will be dialed up at some point.

    And when you cut through all the fancy X’s and O’s, Shanahan and McVay still understand that the best coaches design what they do around their talent rather than the other way around.

    “You try to get your best players on the field,” Shanahan said. “That also gives you an advantage and I think they’ve done a very good job at that offensively and I think we have also.”

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